Using TRP to overcome height

Ragu35 · 2014-11-09T08:20:58+00:00

I'm going to tell you something that's helped me out a lot. I'm naturally a pretty quiet person and I'm almost as short as you at 5'3. One thing that made me really come out of my shell is just talking to people. That's it. Just talk. Very simple.

Next time you're at the supermarket, just say something to the person in line ahead of you. Mention something about the crappy weather to the girl who's waiting at the bus stop next to you. Introduce yourself to a random person in class or at work. Who cares, right? You'll probably never see that person again. These tiny interactions will start to build you up into having longer and longer conversations. Just do whatever you can to slowly work your way up into becoming a social butterfly. This will breed confidence. A lot of guys just don't know how to carry on conversations at all, which is why they aren't confident.

Us short guys can't compete with tall guys when it comes to muscles and physical presence. Definitely lift and get in the best shape you can, but even what you consider your biggest or strongest after a year or two will be what some 6+ footers are accomplishing after a few months. Lift as a personal thing that'll give you a confidence boost, not as a bandaid for poor performance with women. Social skills are what make us stand out. The ability to show people that we aren't self conscious about our height, even if we really are on the inside. If you look at any of those professional pick up artists that are short, the one thing you'll see that they have in common is that they're ridiculously outgoing.

It's not easy. It'll take a lot more than one or two or ten interactions to be a really social person. But it all starts one step at a time. Just like lifting. You don't start out a beast, you have to work your way up to it. You'll falter and want to give up some times, but you just have to power through it.

We're gonna make it, bro.

foldpak111 · 2014-11-08T22:20:12+00:00

I know a Puerto Rican guy your height that kills it with attractive women. He dresses pretty sharp and is totally comfortable with who he is.

sigmared82 · 2014-11-08T23:33:40+00:00

Muscle will help a lot, but not too much. Go for lean and mean, tone, etc, instead of brick shithouse. If you have a thin frame, broaden your shoulders and chest. Shoulder to waist ratio is a big factor in male attractiveness. Also, consider boots with thick soles. There are a lot of good boots that'll add 2-3 inches that don't look like platforms.

Also, yes, confidence, game, etc, can definitely help compensate for being short.

Lastly, try gaming really tall chicks. Seems counter intuitive, but they're less used to having men tower over them. Make jokes about how "ridiculous" you two would look as a couple. Make it fun.

Transmigratory · 2014-11-09T01:14:55+00:00

My view: read stuff like the side bar and any other Manosphere literature. Familiarise yourself with this. Why? Because a lot of the shit you read here about how height/race/whatever becomes the new fad really is a pro/con to you tends to be bull. I define "bull"/BS as the info I read here which contradicts what well acknowledged Manosphere work states.

'Course that could be eloquently summed up by saying don't be a girl about your "flaws"; don't overanalyse- leave that to the girls.

Seriously that will screw up your frame if you don't heed what I say. If you lose frame, everything else tends to be worthless.

Misteralcala · 2014-11-09T02:55:17+00:00

Money, Looks, Social Proof, Personality / Attitude

If you lack in any of these, you can make up for it with an overabundance of the others. You're short (looks), so focus on the other areas you can improve. If you don't make a big deal out of it, they won't either.

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thredditsowaway · 2014-11-09T16:35:17+00:00

Disclaimer: I'm not terribly short, not terribly tall.

http://www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/looks-and-style/short-guy-gets-laid

I have some anecdotal "short guy gets laid" examples but they're kind of redundant in this thread. The insecurity is worse than the actual problem. Sure you won't get as much attention from girls, but being insecure means you will feel like you're not good enough, so you won't even try. This applies to other insecurities as well, I even know guys with no specific things to be insecure about, but who just don't feel entitled to hot girls... so they don't get laid.

needathrowawayplease · 2014-11-10T03:53:42+00:00

I'm 5'5''.

And yes. The bullshit here you read over and over that confidence, holding frame, and amused mastery are what matter is true. I'm dating two girls right now, one is 18 and has enough orbiters that she gets 50 FB likes on a profile pic. The other is a sorority girl who was highschool cheer captain. A month ago I was in another city for work and I fucked a model / gogo-dancer / boothbabe who was staying at the same Airbnb as I was. She had a boyfriend who worked with her at clubs in Miami (didn't tell me that until after my dick had already been in her mouth. Oops). And the truth is that I'm a huge nerd, working in a nerdy field and I have nerdy interests. But because I' not self conscious or seeking validation from others (I validate myself internally), if a girl tries to tell me I'm lame I can without hesitation tell her she must be a cookie cutter basic bitch who only likes Pinterest and Netflix. I'm not needy. And I implicitly demonstrate to women that I truly believe I deserve them.

The truth is that your body language, tone of voice, and the things you say all demonstrate how highly you value you yourself, how highly you value the girl, how nervous you are (or how little you give a fuck), and how much fun you are having. If you are able to demonstrate physically and verbally that you deserve a beautiful woman and then approach 10 of them, I guarantee you that depending on your non-height based aesthetics and game, between one and five will believe that you are cool enough that you do deserve her number/FB/date. There are a ton of variables involved besides just height, and depending on your game you might have to approach 20, or 50 women instead of 10, but at that point if you are sticking your dick in a beautiful girl Friday night, who gives a fuck if some more conversations fizzled out?

I was getting blown the fuck out two years ago (before any game) with girls either looking away when I tried to start a conversation at a coffeeshop or turning their head and walking away at a bar. A year ago I was approaching with minor conversational success but because I wasn't truly confident or comfortable I was a little awkward and didn't show girls I actually believed in myself or that I deserved their attention, and you know what? I was giving up before I even got rejected. I'd exit the conversation without asking for a number or date. But now I've realized that if I can muster up baseless confidence and bravado, I'm going to get dates, and if I go on enough dates, I'm going to get laid. If you can become confident, then being a short guy goes from a complete showstopper to just a minor inconvenience in terms of how many girls you've gotta ask out / hit up compared to TallYoungCool guy.

Finally, understand that once you get a single girl attracted to you and interested in dating you, all this sort of shit becomes much, much easier and less important. LTRs are a great thing for short guys who don't want to keep trying to trade up. You just need to learn enough game to find a girl with RPW-ish/unicorn-ish traits, and then you can get laid everyday if you want for as long as you want. As long as you understand the nature of shit tests, holding frame, amused mastery to a certain extent then keeping a girl around isn't super, super difficult (unless there's a big SMV mismatch). The reason LTRs can be hard to keep is people are bluepill as fuck, but if you have the right knowledge that you can get from this sub, LTRs can be great.

Edit: Realize that I was where you were a few years ago, and I at times asked myself how much I was fucked because I was short. I moped a lot thinking about "I wonder how much easier this would be if I was two inches taller." But I realized that this sort of thinking is poisonous and completely useless, and it's a huge god damn waste of time. If you're worrying about things you can't control you are wasting your life. 20 years from now you'll think, damn I wish I had grown some fucking balls instead of moping cause I could have a higher quantity and quality of pussy.

14931125 · 2014-11-09T11:44:28+00:00

Height doesn't mean shit.

Guys who are tall feel more entitled naturally because they believe it is important.

It is the confidence they eminate which is important. Just be a boss. Work on all other aspects of your life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRY2l5jmIpo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XZVRnNlHmU

All facts aside. You cant change it, so why would you let it affect your life. Can you get more/better girls that you can now if you raise your value? YES!

Title	Using TRP to overcome height
Author	Short-Guy
Upvotes	4
Comments	14
Date	November 8, 2014 9:59 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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