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Do you get "the eyes" Yes. do you make them laugh Not a lot, I'm gonna work on that and my push/pull technique do they seem receptive..? Yes, but not 100% into me And do you end up having sex? I live at home, so I can't always close, that's one of the biggest reason why I don't close that often and I'm going through a dry spell... The problem I'm having is definitely game, but I don't know what exactly: a handful of girls have told me that they thought I was hot when they first met me, but that …
/r/askTRP25/10/15 11:01 PM
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That was very accurate man, thanks! I'm just gonna stop giving a fuck and reeking neediness and over analyzing situations, which I do a lot, and instead I'm gonna just have an abundance mentality.
/r/askTRP25/10/15 08:33 PM
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mostly tinder and going out at night to pick up spots.
/r/askTRP25/10/15 08:08 PM
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Can you give me more advice on this? Not to sound narcissistic, but I have a pretty great body now, I have a good job, and I'm getting good grades in school. I'm starting to get complacent. I remember when I was beta as fuck and one girl broke my heart, I wanted to change and improve so much. I remember that I would lift every day — Lift until I couldn't lift anymore and then I'd sprint or swim for about an hour (at high intensity), read a shit ton, count my macros and weigh my food. I was obses…
/r/askTRP16/10/15 09:13 PM
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Thanks, I needed that!
/r/askTRP16/10/15 08:12 PM
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Where does one draw the line between for standing up for yourself? If I start poking an alpha gorilla with a stick, at first he might be indifferent, but after a while, I'm sure he'd just kick my ass. What situations in life warrant us to command respect or to stand up for ourself instead of just AA?
/r/askTRP08/10/15 02:06 AM
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One of my co-workers (she's higher up than I and I report to her for a group project) acts super weird around me. When I run into her outside of work, and I say hi, she's like really weird - pretends not to see me or awkwardly says hi and walks away from me and she gets like really nervous. When I talk to her, you can tell she gets really anxious, like I'm scarrying her. I sent her an email for the next steps in the project, and she ignores me. I haven't ever had this happened with any other wom…
/r/askTRP07/10/15 02:54 AM
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She had closed body language and didn't tell me to stop touching her but she didn't seem too happy, so I stopped escalating. Real answer: I'm too much of a timid pussy to make a move. Ugh, I knew she was going to pull that on me at the end of the date. I know better. Argh. W/e
/r/TheRedPill17/01/15 10:52 PM
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I mean, I think she's a shitty person in general - she is very disorganized, a bit impulsive, messy car, no ambition, used to her rich dad buying her everything she needs, etc. I want to try to score, nothing else, how do I proceed, or should I just next her?
/r/TheRedPill17/01/15 07:43 PM
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It was a shit test in that I think that was your last opportunity to make a move and escalate, or be her friend. You fucked up because you didn't escalate when she was ok with kissing you...
/r/seduction11/01/15 07:24 AM
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If you go on 6-7 dates with a girl, and don't have sex, and she tells you that there is no chemistry, is there a chance that you can ever get her to change her mind? I did dread game, but it didn't really help...
/r/askTRP30/12/14 06:15 PM
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Thanks, I think this is what I had to hear.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 12:48 AM
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I wish life were like what I thought it was like when I was blue pill and I developed oneitis for a girl No, I never want to go back. However, I know that a lot of guys on TRP are in LTRs so that is why I want to know if its just my atmosphere, or if quality girls are scare.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 08:52 PM
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Actually, you don't confront her, you just break up with her. When you confront her, and hear her out, you're just letting her run her hamster and try to justify her cheating on you. Moreover, if you don't even listen to her, she will feel wore because she's getting the emotional validation of telling you why she cheated and seeing you break frame.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 03:51 AM
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Your vibe in the OP says you basically weren't getting the IOI you wanted so nexted her, even turning her down later, she orbits you and still tries to hit you up. But, when we did go out, she kept taking her phone out and kept texting and snapchating her friends, which I thought was kind of rude. So I figure that it wasn't a date. Also, I couldn't really call her out on it because we were just "chilling" and getting food... If it was a date, I would have called her out on it, and maybe even hav…
/r/askTRP28/12/14 03:13 AM
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What about now? Also, I told her that I dated one of the girls that lives on her floor (it was relevant) and I told a quick story, and she literally didn't have any comment, her face went blank, and she just said, I'll talk to you later...
/r/askTRP27/12/14 09:39 PM
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Are you saying that if I make a move and hold frame, I could make her attracted to me?
/r/askTRP27/12/14 09:33 PM
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Actually, I think you're right. Would it even be worthwhile to make a move or should I just cancel the gathering?
/r/askTRP27/12/14 09:33 PM
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I've actually read in a psychology book that the benefit to oneitis was that if a man had invested enough energy to reproduce with a women, he will try a bit more so that his efforts weren't in vain. Also, it is so that if the women is pregnant, the man wouldnt walk out.
/r/askTRP30/11/14 05:41 PM
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yo
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:51 AM
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Is he 5'4? I know a Puerto Rican like that. He's actually always hooking up with tall eastern european chicks. However, this guy is good. Like perfect game.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 04:50 AM
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You're not going to run into her. If you do, just say, "hey, I just wanted to say Hi, I hope everything is going well for you." And then you leave. that's it. But, it doesn't even matter what you say. You guys broke up, and are probably not getting back together, so it doesn't even matter if you run into her.
/r/seduction09/11/14 04:41 AM
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Wait, I'm confused by your post. Should I confront them?
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 04:15 AM
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There was a board meeting tonight at my job to replace the old chair person. One of the persons on the boards, who I thought was my friend backstabbed me. He pretended to be my friend and he promised me his loyalty. I did for him so many favors, all in the name of loyalty. One of the candidates for the job tonight was my brothers, who is objectify over-qualified for the job. My "friend" texted his friends not to vote for him, and give a speech where he said that my brother should not be the new …
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 03:51 AM
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you would just lower yourself to their level and show them that they actually got to you. What if they did do something bad that merits loathe? you should never put yourself in a situation where they will have the opportunity to betray you again. too bad you don't control that
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 03:17 AM
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Then what should've I said? can you go over this
/r/askTRP10/10/14 10:32 PM
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No, but he said that he didn't mind if I went for it.
/r/askTRP10/10/14 10:18 PM
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I wouldn't tell her. Especially because you're 21.
/r/seduction06/10/14 09:24 AM
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8s-10s don't have to do this because they're comfortable in their own skin. This is actually so true. I have guy friends that are somewhat attractive (probably 6-7s), but not alpha. They spend all day at the gym. And, they tell our group of friends these stories about how to get chicks nonstop. The stories are exaggerated, and the girls they pick up are not the great — they tend to be 5s, and tend to be really superficial. Those guys are the worst, they act super entitled to hot girls but they h…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 10:02 PM
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I mean, the thing is, I've heard 5-6s actually say: "wow, I can't believe he actually though he had a chance with me. ME. What garbage." I don't think hot chixks say that very often.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 09:14 PM
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This is actually true. I went to public school, and everyone treated minorities like shit there. One of my siblings went to an elite prep school, and he always tells me stories about how the students from other countries took a lot of pride in their background and a lot of the students respected them, and the fact that they spoke more than one language.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 09:13 PM
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This is true. From my experience, gorgeous hot women tend to be sluttier and just more pleasant to be around while ugly girls have rejected me in the nastiest ways and go out of their way to make sure everyone finds out. They've also been really wishy washy, and just shitty. Maybe its because I'm better looking than them, and they think I am just playing with them or something, or IDK, but it usually always works bad for me. I'm sticking to hot chicks.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 06:06 PM
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This has more to do with the fact that 9s and 10s get less attention than 7s and 8s. Most guys automatically disqualify themselves from dating 9s and 10s and so never make an attempt, meaning strangely enough that 9s and 10s get only as much attention as "average" girls (see the OKCupid Blog for details on the exact stats). A girl who gets only moderate attention cannot afford to be bitchy in the way a 7 or 8 can. Can you link that? I've heard that before, but I mean, from my experience, especia…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 05:10 PM
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I like saying: Hey, thanks for noticing!
/r/seduction20/08/14 08:09 PM
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Now that I think about it, it probably was a shit test, I should have said that.
/r/askTRP12/08/14 04:41 AM
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Are you sure you are not misreading friendliness? I'm certain she wasn't just being friendly because she was validating herself to me, and trying to hold conversation with me despite the fact that my body language and tone indicated that I wasn't interested in talking to her, and just talking to her because I was nice and she approached me. (I was also at the event with a really hot girl, so I also had social proof on my side.) You broke frame, tsk tsk. I did break frame, but I said it with the …
/r/askTRP12/08/14 04:38 AM
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Why is this getting downvoted?
/r/TheRedPill10/08/14 10:48 PM
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that I gave her and a letter stating that for the entire relationship she never loved me, and she didn't want to hurt me. A rich man doesn't need to tell everyone he's rich. she asked if we could be friends Did she really mean it? I simply looked at her and walked away That's a douche thing to do, it shows that you're still upset about it. You should have just said, "I don't really have time for new friends right now, but good luck with everything." she found me on Facebook, and sent friend invi…
/r/TheRedPill10/08/14 03:55 AM
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Me. For HER cheating. As if something I did was a trigger for her to open her legs. It's more about what you weren't doing. Technically, just about, every time a women cheats on her man, it's the man's fault.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/14 11:47 PM
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Women rarely approach you, and if they do it's really subtly like they'll say "nice shirt" or something that doesn't come on too strong. Just approach.
/r/seduction07/08/14 08:44 PM
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"Hey, don't be afraid to test the waters"
/r/askTRP07/08/14 03:46 AM
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Why are people down voting this?
/r/seduction28/07/14 04:16 AM
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Why is the only right answer here getting down voted?
/r/seduction28/07/14 04:15 AM
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If you have met her before, you could have asked her to chill. Since you just texted her and she has no idea who you are, you could be a rapist/serial killer, don't bother. Nothing is going to happen.
/r/seduction28/07/14 04:14 AM
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In what way is it a shit text? If you were on a date with Angelina Jolie would you mention your ex? No, you would avoid talking about her because it is standard dating etiquette to not mention your ex or other girls because you're their for the both of you — and also why on earth would you talk about an ex on a date, especially just on specific one? It's rude. Which I just ignore. How often does she bring him up? if it's more than once, you're probably in the friend zone already. But even if she…
/r/seduction26/07/14 02:41 AM
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texted for a week (she always trying to fill the silences) FYI: that doesn't really mean anything... Always texting me first. Always writing more than me. Again, that doesn't mean shit... Have you guys gone out at this point? Told me about her last bf, and how "I want to believe you're not like him". That my sir is a shit test; moreover, she might not be completely over him... Asked her three times for a coffee, but she refused them. She actually got colder after the second time I asked her. Hav…
/r/seduction26/07/14 01:58 AM
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Here’s the key: It doesn’t matter if you get stronger or look different after a month. (You will, but it doesn’t matter.) The way you walk, talk, and carry yourself will become better, in a way you won’t notice but others will, if you know that you’ve done all you can to prepare your body to face the day, every day. I agree, but can you please explain?
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 06:40 AM
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When I receive them, I usually try to mirror the other person, responding in kind with some something like "hey there" to let them lead the conversation where they want. Lead the conversation where you want... so I said "so when are we finally going on our date?" I'm now waiting for a response. And I'm sure she's not going to respond... You have to ask her out with a specific time and place. Are they just wanting to small-talk, or is it some kind of way of getting my attention? A little of both
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:35 PM
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How would you have responded to that shit test about the red dress? I was out today with some girl with a huge bitch today and I thought agreeing and amplifying was alway right. So, the girl was talking suit about guys that eat at chipotle a lot, after I told her I really like chipotle. She said to me: people who eat chipotle all the time are honestly really shitty. I retorted: I'm probably the shittiest person then. She stopped being bitchy after that.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 02:43 AM
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Have you ever lived in any other city No I went to Chicago in Feb and noticed that there's a to. Of unattractive women. I was amazed about the lack of them since here in LA I see them all over the place. It depends what part of Chicago you went to I guess. Typically if you walk around downtown, you'll see a lot of hot girls. I don't think it's that bad though, but I don't really have much of a comparison. Can you confirm or did I just go on a weird weekend when all the hot women left? When one o…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 06:18 PM
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Not weird or a dumb idea at all. You always have to stick out from other people, in a good way
/r/seduction21/07/14 12:09 AM
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No, it's not at all
/r/seduction20/07/14 11:07 PM
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Perhaps the girls on tinder and okcupid ignore you because they think you're Exagerating your height like everyone else. I'm 5'9 and For some reason no one on tinder has ever asked me for my height. I've gone out with a lot of girls from tinder and they haven't seemed to give 2 shits, but then again they have been about my height or shorter.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 04:36 PM
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not a tall girl I can recall gave a rat's ass unless the guy in question just couldn't let it go. That actually surprised me, especially considering the fact that models tend to be gorgeous and you would think they would get picky about the guys they want to date. Own that shit - when my sister started dating her now husband (5'10" and change), guys asked all the time if the difference made him uncomfortable (especially seeing as baby sister loves to rock the heels). His response? "Are you kiddi…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 03:57 AM
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Chicago. If I go out anywhere, there's a 100% chance I'll run into a ton of 5'11+ girls.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 12:09 AM
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I'm 6'8 and as a side note that you guys might find useful is that tall girls are pretty desperate. Not necessarily for guys that are shorter than they are or if the girls are very attractive, but since you are tall maybe they act more desperate around you because are taller than they are, and they don't come across that very often...
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 11:50 PM
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I lift, and have been lifting for a year, but because of my low body fat, you can't really tell I lift unless I take my shirt off.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 10:55 PM
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I just grabbed her that's the way you do it, don't even think about. 3 second rule. guy/girl ratio was 90% guys, 10% girls not rad. She wanted me to buy her a drink, I said '' what do I get in return?'', she said: ''something real good''. So I went to the bar with her, still doing kino shit. I am a bit disappointed in your right here. I think you should have bought her the drink until she put out. I grabbed her hands, explaining her how to make a proper fist, how to slip, duck, uppercut and all …
/r/seduction19/07/14 10:02 PM
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She thinks I leave in two weeks and don't speak spanish, I am actually fluent in spanish and leave to England in December and probably not permanently, help me fix this! It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal. Just say something along the lines of: "I hope you know I'm actually not leaving in two weeks, I leave in December", in Spanish and then just laugh after you say it. I've been in stuff like that before and it's not really a big deal if you don't make it. Anything she says after tha…
/r/seduction19/07/14 06:48 PM
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For your reference, http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2a62eq/fr_social_circlefriend_kclose/ I have not read that, but I'll take a look at this anyway. The girl and I head out to the beach. If it's a first/second date, I think that you should not pick her up, you both should have just met up. On the car ride back to her place, I asked what she thought about us and what we should do. Don't ever ask that again. EVER! She is very unresponsive/inconsistent with texting. It's not a big deal, …
/r/seduction19/07/14 07:04 AM
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It's important to note my main method of approach is through Facebook. I'm curious, what do you say to them? Perhaps N is more confident and experienced because of her good looks though.
/r/seduction19/07/14 06:16 AM
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Does the amount of likes you get matter?
/r/seduction19/07/14 12:22 AM
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Of course, dominant men might WANT certain things, but if they ask once and they don’t get a favorable response they just move on. Is this why you should never ask a women out again after she rejects you? It also comports with common sense to be vulnerable and weak with somebody who is being vulnerable and weak with you. Resist! Doesn't Mark Manson support vulnerability? You have no way of knowing whether or not she will say yes, and if you don’t feel dominant to her you will come off looking li…
/r/seduction18/07/14 06:15 AM
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Despite my regular attempts at arranging a hangout, she always seem to have something going on. This is fine - people are busy and I get that. But why has she not made any attempts to see me? If I wanted to see somebody I would say "I can't do Friday...but I'm free next Wednesday." or something. She tells me she wants to see me, and she never ignores a text...but nothing comes of it. Attraction probably died out or you're probably too available. Once again, despite her saying she is busy (and sh…
/r/seduction16/07/14 06:03 PM
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I just wanted to emphasize how important it is to pick a fun date A fun place could help, especially because of misattribution of arousal, but the girl is going on the date with you and you are going on a date with her. No one is there to entertain the other. IF she agreed, she's there for you. Slacklines turn out to be pretty ideal for building trust, escalating kino, and displaying yourself as a fun confident man. note to self: buy a slackline
/r/seduction16/07/14 05:39 AM
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'Tu parle vous la frencais? [sic]' Next time open with the vous form and after the girls seem more open switch over to the tu form. It's better to speak better and sound more intelligent than to not. not trying to correct any mistakes when I say something transgressive (!). This is really good, a lot of guys take back what they say or apologize a lot. No IOI's at this point You're not always going to get IOIs A) Should I keep the interaction shorter and leave on a high note? or B) Should I have …
/r/seduction16/07/14 05:29 AM
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(she was sitting on my lap, grabbed my ass at one point, and just generally being flirty). to me it sounds like she just wanted attention. We were both drinking so I wrote it off and she was barely a few weeks out of her relationship o I didn't make a move beyond the flirting I had been doing all week. Confirmed. She left early-ish with her friends that night and I stayed out. Double confirmation. So this past weekend I went to vegas with a couple friends and when I told Sarah that there was a d…
/r/seduction16/07/14 05:13 AM
1

But take every chance as an opportunity.
/r/seduction16/07/14 04:36 AM
1

Started to pay attention to skin care. Watched YouTube videos on how to improve and maintain healthy skin and hygiene and the acne just disappeared. Can you please share some videos, lol. And congrats.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 05:06 AM
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First I say: "Yeah... You didn't say that. I'm no good around other people's friends" Usually they'll get the hint and make it seem like it's their idea to not bring them along, if not I say: "Ok... Do we really need to bring her at all?"
/r/seduction14/07/14 01:45 AM
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there's a saying that goes something like: A guy chasing women loses money, but a guy chasing money, never loses money.
/r/seduction13/07/14 09:59 PM
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New Here. For a LTR, why does what the girl says about her father? I don't really see how it matters, at all. I mean, I have dated girls that talk shit about their parents, but I know they deep down have to care for them and I don't think that impacted how they treated me either.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 07:28 AM
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All the girls except for one of them literally walked away as I approached before I got a word in. I did the approach with my friend, and this literally happened to us twice. The other approaches went a little bit better, but I thought that was weird. We did these approaches in the city next to a statue where a lot of people were taking pictures and hanging out, so it was safe for everyone.
/r/seduction09/07/14 12:38 AM
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All the girls except for one of them literally walked away as I approached before I got a word in. I did the approach with my friend, and this literally happened to us twice. The other approaches went a little bit better, but I thought that was weird. We did these approaches in the city next to a statue where a lot of people were taking pictures and hanging out, so it was safe for everyone.
/r/seduction09/07/14 12:36 AM
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Pay attention to how she reciprocates kino, how she reacts when you touch her, and how much she allows you to touch her. Generally, girls will allow me to touch them, and they'll be receptive to it, but they usually do not reciprocate. Is that bad?
/r/seduction05/07/14 06:40 PM
1

Are you white? And do you dress well?
/r/seduction05/07/14 03:08 PM
2

Display higher value, it's in the sidebar.
/r/seduction03/07/14 12:27 AM
3

Don't!
/r/seduction02/07/14 10:18 PM
1

Did you friend request him?
/r/seduction02/07/14 05:55 PM
2

Where does everyone in chicago day game?
/r/seduction02/07/14 04:29 AM
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so sexual conversation is pretty on-topic and required. What if you don't have a sexual conversation, but you do some heavy kino? I've never had a sexual conversation on a first date, but after doing some heavy kino, the girl is usually into it, and then randomly says: "i'd only have sex with a guy that I've known for a long time..." and I usually just respond to it like a shit test, and have an emotional conversation and continue to kino... Am I doing something wrong?
/r/seduction01/07/14 07:16 AM
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you guys don't need to openly talk about sex, but the date shouldn't feel like two friends casually getting lunch. I've never really done that. Usually the girl will randomly bring up: "oh, I'd never have sex with a guy until I've dated him at least three months" or something along those lines, and I usually just thought that was a shit test and I said: Yeah, I know what you mean... What exactly do you say and how would you respond to that?
/r/seduction01/07/14 07:07 AM
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I REALLY want to go on a date with that korean girl. you're already fighting an uphill battle — your emotions and body language are going to betray you. If I tell you the full situation and what I've texted so far (sent 3 texts, no replies) could you let me know what I have to do now to secure this or if I could even still possibly secure this? Are you advanced btw? Send them to me, and I'll give you my two cents. Also, if you want, audio record you interactions and upload them here. If you're r…
/r/seduction01/07/14 07:02 AM
2

A better idea would be to first inquire about her typical schedule. Don't ask a girl for her schedule, it's really off-putting if she doesn't know you. And, you come off as too eager. Let her offer an alternative time, or walk alway. Instead of proposing another date, I would have put the ball in her court. "Do you have a calendar? Put the ball on her court, but don't ask her about her schedule. "Are you sure Sat works cuz the last thing I want to be doing is walking two freakin blocks to the ba…
/r/seduction01/07/14 06:56 AM
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Yesterday I set up a date with a girl by saying we should get coffee tomorrow night. Next say: "I'll call you sometime later this week to set something up when we both can." It makes you sound less eager, and it's a good frame to set up. Remember: the first rule of seduction is be less interested in her than she is in you. She seemed like she was down, but she said she had to go to the gym. Was this a cold approach on the street? I think you came off as too eager. What I found that works in case…
/r/seduction01/07/14 06:49 AM
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Environment probably does contribute a bit, but I think that you're probably coming on too strong or your body language is making it seem like you want something from them. When n-closing, I would say: "Give me your number, and I'll text you later to set something up."
/r/seduction30/06/14 06:34 AM
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Tomorrow I'm gonna try your method of not using the word date, I'll just go through set as I normally do but instead say something like "we should grab a coffee tomorrow at 1, let me get your number" I'll see how that works out. Report back!
/r/seduction30/06/14 06:26 AM
1

By personality do you mean charm and charisma?
/r/seduction30/06/14 04:59 AM
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I -very drunkenly- invited her back to my place for a glass of wine, and she said, "not tonight" or something along those lines. I think she turned you down because she knew you were drunk and she was less drunk than you. It's really not a big deal, at all! I would just not even mention and pretend it never happen. When you see her, be friendly, and escalate. FYI: girls are used to being hit on by drunk dudes all the time, it doesn't mean shit to them, and even if she did go back with you, it'd …
/r/seduction30/06/14 04:51 AM
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I might be doing something wrong, but I feel that I can k-close a girl on a date, but the first few dates, I don't see her really excited like some other girls just naturally are when they see me.
/r/seduction30/06/14 04:32 AM
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7 )If a girl is interested in you or intrigued by you, you will know. If you can't tell there's a good chance it's not happening. That's okay, as most girls are like this. But when you actually find a girl who likes you, and you've developed a connection with her she will undoubtedly put forth effort to make it happen more/again. From my experience, it usually takes a long time for girls to become interested in you — unless you're way more attractive than them or are always unavailable to them.
/r/seduction29/06/14 06:40 PM
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We're planning to meet this weekend(but I couldn't before because I have work). I set up the date on Tuesday, and I haven't talked/texted her since. Should I message her, or snap her?
/r/seduction21/06/14 04:59 AM
1

How do you decide when to add her or not?
/r/seduction20/06/14 10:40 PM
2

What about girls that give you their phone number and seem real (and even have mutual friends)?
/r/seduction20/06/14 09:58 PM
1

Do you think it would make a difference if were both 20? It's not like we have careers yet.
/r/seduction20/06/14 06:30 PM
1

Why not khakis lol?
/r/seduction19/06/14 10:12 PM
1

I'm not going to lie, I used to be a bit insecure about my height because I come from a tall family (where all the guys are 6'1"+) and I'm 5'9ish. I used to think that every girl that rejected me rejected me because I was short, and that if I were at least 5'11, she would in no way have rejected me. However, I recently meet this one guy who is about my age (20 years old) that is literally 5'4-5'5, and height has not stopped him. He is very hygienic and clean, he wears what seems to be really exp…
/r/seduction17/06/14 07:07 PM
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You're just passing the fear of rejection onto the chick and chicks aren't used to dealing with rejection so I'm not sure it would work out so well for you. How exactly do you fear rejection in a case like this? You obviously know the guy likes you because he gave you his number. Also, would you call the guy if you were attracted to him a bit?
/r/seduction15/06/14 05:17 PM
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Another problem that I have is that when I ask a girl's number after chatting with her for a while on the street/bar/party she says "I don't know you. I don't give my number to people." She says that even after I make her laugh. How do I deal with this? That means you're game isn't tight and you're not comming off as an impressive enough person. Also, most girls will be nice when you talk to them even if they're not attracted to you, so laughing doesn't mean anything and just because you're havi…
/r/seduction14/06/14 09:53 PM
1

Thanks this gives me hope because right now I get rejected more often than I don't and I really think that my game is good because I'm able to coach my friends with what to say, and he does good, but I think that my emotions screw me over in person. I almost never get rejected now. Would you say it's because of your confidence and personality?
/r/seduction12/06/14 07:18 PM
1

How has height impacted your game? Isn't that below average for Ruerto Ricans, or so I think. I'm not sure what I'm doing right now, but I can't land girls I really like. I can land girls, but the type of girls I want (you know, beautiful, come from good families, very smart, confident, good sense of fashion, etc.) usually turn me down, they also tend to be older than I am so that might be why... (i'm 19). Any advice? should you call it a date when you ask a girl out? you said you got rejected 9…
/r/seduction12/06/14 06:12 PM
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I can tell she's about to break it off but try to remain friends. You dump her first then. She's been really disrespectful of me and my time in the past week or so, and she's the kind of girl that gets everything she wants (hot blonde, etc.). Girls come and go, but your dignity is another story. I was in a similar situation not too long ago. I'm glad I rejected her, she said she still wanted to be friends but I turn even that down. It made me feel better about myself and made me more confident b…
/r/seduction12/06/14 06:01 PM
2

The 9's and 10's on tinder can get upwards of 150 matches a day if they decide to swipe 150 times. Unsurprisingly this is very true. I know a girl with really good pictures that swiped straight for an hour one weekend and she got 700 matches in just two-three days.
/r/seduction12/06/14 06:10 AM
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In my experience, using the term 'date' has scared these women off more often than not. I have a lot more success pulling them in to getting drinks, or something specific rather than the date thing. Not on Tinder, but I have a friend who does not call it a date when they ask the girl to hang out, and then when they meet up, he like causally says: "so this is a date, right?" and the girl usually says yes, and when she says no, he responds to it as if it were a shit test, and he claims it always w…
/r/seduction12/06/14 06:05 AM
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I generally agree with that. But sometimes when I get comments I've said stupid shit like im glad you noticed or yep I know right. That's cocky buts it's worked out because they knew I was kidding.
/r/seduction10/06/14 07:05 PM
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same friends It's never a good idea to dabble in relationships with the same friend group. But there are exceptions so know what you can get into. You said you had your birthday dinner with her and you've only known her for a week and a half. That usually comes off as needy and is never a good idea. But, too late now. Also, I don't think you got anything to worry about. I think you might be getting needy though.
/r/seduction10/06/14 06:39 AM
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First of all, I'd like to say that this is great post. Thirteen: High value people give out value Tom Cruise, Will Smith, Oprah. They make other people feel great. Don't take value from anyone, you have more than enough, you raise everyone. so compliment people or what do you mean? HOWEVER: Some girls are just not sexually/emotionally available to you AT THIS MOMENT. Learn to recognise that too. Could be getting over an ex, trouble at home. If you do your game good, she will come around if she w…
/r/seduction09/06/14 12:53 AM
2

No fancy pick up lines, no clever or witty responses, no gimmicks. Yes that is all it really takes. I saw a perfect 10 walking by. She was the hottest girl I have ever seen at my school (and hot girls are in no short supply here) and she looked like she was totally my type. At my college, or at least from my experience, it seems like the super hot girls are getting approached all the time or don't mind talking to anyone, even if he's not the best looking guy around. I have approached really, sup…
/r/seduction07/06/14 12:44 AM
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Dude, you missed out on a perfect opportunity to sexualize the conversation. Me: "What does that mean, lol?" Girl: something along the lines of you having a small penis you: "Well hey, theres only one way to find out about that, do you want to find out..."
/r/seduction07/06/14 12:37 AM
1

How are you approaching these women? What types of activities are you suggesting? How have you communicated your interest in them? I treat them like normal people, and then I ask them is they want to go on a date with me, and I usually suggest a place like: a museum, play, social event, etc. I'm not really a fan of coffee first dates, i prefer to be out... But I usually get rejected. But like I said, I'm not super attractive and it hurts me that where I live every guy is literally 6'2+ (and most…
/r/seduction06/06/14 09:33 PM
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Why do you talk about past relationships and shit like that on a date? Don't mention it, and if it comes up, just say: I don't like talking about other women I've been with, that was the past and I'm here now.
/r/seduction06/06/14 01:06 AM
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So, you could have said whatever you wanted. It's not like the hand of god would have come down and given you a gold star because you came up with the right witty response. You're right! Logically: why would I give 2 shits what she thinks about me anymore, she said no. However, I think I have oneitis. I work with her, and this is her last week here, after this Friday I'm probably never going to see her again. That has actually made me really sad since I found out. It's all I've been thinking abo…
/r/seduction05/06/14 03:52 AM
1

You generate attraction when you MEET a woman. Attraction is something that comes across in the first 30 seconds. I've been able to tell girls are into me when I first meet them, but biologically speaking: doesn't a women have to see you around a few times to like you?
/r/seduction05/06/14 03:41 AM
1

This whole post basically describes me. I got into PUA when my ex and first true love girlfriend broke up with me. Since then, I have gained a ton of confidence, and it's real confidence. I have been getting invited to parties, and more girls ask me for my contact information or invite me to hang out with them. (Before no girl would talk to me, I have never really had any girl friends before now.) And, not to sound like a self-righteous douche, but I'm usually the most alpha guy in my classes an…
/r/seduction05/06/14 03:35 AM
1

Relationships are founded around people you see often - so yes social circles, work, or school. I think you might be screwing something up with girls at school because that's were most relationships start.
/r/seduction05/06/14 02:38 AM
1

I think that makes you seem like a more genuine person that doesn't wants something from her
/r/seduction05/06/14 01:19 AM
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I would also like to add that girls are really good at feigning interest - I've had girls make it seem like they were crazy for me, then I calls them and ask them to go out with me and they turn me down or give me the weakest excuse.
/r/seduction03/06/14 09:22 PM
1

No, but many studies have confirmed that women prefer men that have been involved with other women. The phenomena is called "preselection". Edit: correct me if I'm wrong, and explain. I'm just genuinely curious because it doesn't make sense to me.
/r/seduction03/06/14 12:42 AM
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Yes there are. Those type of women usually want a beta male that they can boss around and have do shit for them, but they don't really like him or give to shits about him. He's more like a guy who does her shit.
/r/seduction02/06/14 11:12 PM
2

How old are you?
/r/seduction01/06/14 10:05 PM
1

a few harsh rejections What happened?
/r/seduction01/06/14 12:23 AM
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You're in the wrong subreddit buddy
/r/seduction28/05/14 07:52 PM
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LOL, that used to happen to me all the times. The problem (I wouldn't really call it that though) went away after I made more women friends and hung out with them too. Its not really awkward. Yeah, I think you're attractive, and I don't control my dick, but you know what you could do, girl?
/r/seduction28/05/14 01:39 AM
1

If she's not there at noon, you say: "ok, well it looks like you're busy, and I can't hang out anymore. However, when were both free, lets do something though!" And go dark for a few days then ask her out again.
/r/seduction27/05/14 06:05 PM
2

I thought about that, but it's a bit misleading. I had one of those "catch ups" with a girl like 3 weeks ago, and she would text on her phone every time someone messaged her, it made escalating harder and I think things would have worked out better if I made my intentions clear.
/r/seduction27/05/14 03:43 AM
1

Sounds like approach anxiety
/r/seduction27/05/14 12:52 AM
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One, I knew her a year ago and we're friends. Never been more but I would really love to take her out. The type you'd get into a relationship with. IMO I don't know if you can turn that into a date, I think you guys are just friends, but it's worth a shot anyway. For all of them, I guess the best thing to do is calling then and saying something along the lines of "hey, it's X, remember me? How've you been? Are you single? Ok, well want to go on a date with me?"
/r/seduction27/05/14 12:43 AM
1

What's the situation?
/r/seduction26/05/14 10:52 PM
3

Sounds to me like you guys are just friends.
/r/seduction26/05/14 07:22 PM
6

What if you don't consider the guy attractive? Would it still make your day?
/r/seduction22/05/14 06:48 PM
1

Like an idiot I am developing oneitis. How do I stop? She's been really nice and clear that she only wanted to be friends but my brain is tricking me into believe that there could be something else. What do I do?
/r/seduction22/05/14 03:02 PM
2

she just wanted to be friends, and you are misreading her signals lol. I think deep down I know this is true, but my mind wants to trick me into believing that she likes me. :/ In this case what should I do? I don't want to cut her off, especially since I see her fairly often, but I just want to forget about her...
/r/seduction22/05/14 04:51 AM
1

You look desperate if you send her that. Make plans or something though, and it's not really bad to text people - it's just bad if you're needy.
/r/seduction20/05/14 06:15 PM
1

This real question is how are they going to entertain you?
/r/seduction20/05/14 01:22 AM
2

This. Thread/
/r/seduction20/05/14 01:19 AM
2

Mystery is attractive, and in all honesty you probably already convey that based on the way you talk and dress. It's better for her to pick up on it then state it. Do you think Bill Gates needs to tell everyone his net worth? NO, he doesn't give a shit what you think - he does what he does for other reason besides making money.
/r/seduction19/05/14 11:32 PM
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Good story. Next time you tell us it, you nailed her. But in all seriousness, rejection is not the end of the world. A lot of girls that rejected me at first have eventually come around and it worked out. And if they don't, it's not the end of the world. It's all about abundance mentality.
/r/seduction19/05/14 07:54 PM
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Rejection because "i dont even know you/ we just met/etc". She's turning you down gently. I bet you a million dollars she'd go out on a date with Brad Pitt despite not "knowing him". Facebook games is lame. It only works if you've already built a connection in person, orelse it's pointless. My advice: don't bother. You're better off running into them in person.
/r/seduction19/05/14 06:44 PM
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She has to be attracted to you already or else she will probably turn you down gently, or not even respond. I was talking a girl about this yesterday, and she told me a bunch of guys have hit her up on Facebook, and she usually doesn't even bother to respond, or says she's busy because she's not attracted to them. If she is attracted to them, she makes it blatantly obvious and the guy usually gives her his number.
/r/seduction19/05/14 06:40 PM
1

we've all known those hot girls that plays hard to get and will just play with you and then hop on the other guy. Yeah, those girls are usually not interested. Go dark as soon as you find out there not interested. Not to sound like a douche, but I don't think this is a good idea. It implies that a bunch of girls have played you in the subtext, and its only going to get her to validate herself if she's desperate or has a low self-esteem, so I don't think you should do that, at all. My advice with…
/r/seduction17/05/14 04:52 PM
2

so she says "so, you want a lock? because you never ask for anything else..." I would have asked for her number right there, even in a trollish way, just to set the frame. Me: "I actually forgot something..." HB8: "what did you forget?" Me: "Your phone number" - as I put my phone on the counter and looking at her in the eyes. Oh, that is good! It's clever! Me: "Because I like you and I feel like by seeing you I get this great feeling to start my work out. Seeing you motivates me." I bit overboar…
/r/seduction15/05/14 03:30 AM
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Are you stupid? I cannot even fathom how, just how a women would react negatively to that. If anything it should be a bonus. You're probably coming off insecure about it, you should work on making it sound more entertaining. Please, I have a friend that works at chipotle, but he's slick and is able to pull it off when he tells girls.
/r/seduction14/05/14 01:03 PM
1

Question: If you were romanticizing a girl on a date, why would you do it? If I were on a date with Megan Fox, I would never bring up some hoe that doesn't even stack up to her. I would actually take that as a shit test, but since she has done that a few times it a sign of disinterest. perhaps she likes the guy and the guy doesn't like her back. Do you really want a girl like that? drop it before you waste more time and money. Do you think she would talk about her friend on a date with brad pitt…
/r/seduction14/05/14 12:43 AM
1

As shallow as it sounds, 99.999% of the times I've rejected a girl it's been solely based on looks of I didn't think she was confident/smart enough. I don't know if if actually ever tell them that because I wouldn't want to hurt their feelings though.
/r/seduction13/05/14 03:34 PM
1

I'm curious, what did they say? What is looks or did you come off weird or something?
/r/seduction13/05/14 03:33 PM
1

"Hey, what's up? I'm Rusty."
/r/seduction13/05/14 12:47 PM
2

Serious question: why is this getting down voted?
/r/seduction11/05/14 02:43 PM
1

Why do you think that?
/r/seduction10/05/14 06:25 AM
1

As it turns out, she's a lesbian. Her friend told me. I think I'm just going to go dark, this is too weird for me.
/r/seduction09/05/14 03:10 PM
1

Plot twist: she's a lesbian. What do I do?
/r/seduction08/05/14 11:53 PM
1

Plot twist: she's a lesbian. What should I do in this case?
/r/seduction08/05/14 11:53 PM
1

Her friend told me she's actually a lesbian. Does this change anything?
/r/seduction08/05/14 11:50 PM
2

Plot twist. It turns out she's a lesbian. One of her friend told me... I'm this case, what should I do?
/r/seduction08/05/14 11:48 PM
2

I know what you mean, but I haven't talked to her at all, moreover lent her an ear. When she starts talking about something, I just say, I got to get to this thing and peace real soon. However, I run into her a lot and I felt that it's douche not to say hi atleast especially because she comes up to me first and walks with me. And I offered her my friendship for that same reason. I know she's not interested (if there wasn't enough attraction to go out with me, i think anything else would be a was…
/r/seduction08/05/14 09:56 PM
1

I think you hit the nail on the head. There's and age gap, which is probably why she isn't interested too. In this case what should I do, I really don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable?
/r/seduction08/05/14 12:52 PM
1

Not necessarily, it depends on the situation, but for the most part it's disrespectful and definetly not an ioi (do you think she's be on her phone if she was sitting next to Brad Pitt?)
/r/seduction08/05/14 05:05 AM
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How do you guys get into the state where it doesn't bother you that you "lost" to another guy that seems to have it better and is more natural. It's a shitty feeling. That's what I would like to know. I've seen some other people here have tried to explain this phenomena using evolutionary, biological explanations. They have said that we feel that we because we feel rejected again. That doesn't make it any easier on me, but because I understand that it's in my DNA to feel this way, I understand t…
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:19 PM
1

Go for it!
/r/seduction06/05/14 01:36 PM
1

IMO, no. It's too much work, and you're wasting your time most of the times.
/r/seduction06/05/14 01:12 PM
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Who knows tho maybe its the same kind of negativity Perhaps. I've asked girls before why they have rejected me (in a nonchalant way), but they have never told me the real reason (e.g., height, appearance, skin color, I came off to creepy, etc.). They usually just say it's not me, it's them. I'm sure there are a million reason for why a girl rejects us, besides looks, but at the end of the day, there's not much we can do to control it, so rationally it's not worth thinking about. Being realistic,…
/r/seduction06/05/14 05:43 AM
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It depends on a million factors. I've don't it before and the girl has ignored me after I sent the picture because it came off as if I was too emotionally invested. And other girls that think I'm not really interested have responded positively (but, they were already into me). My advice: if it's early in the relationship, don't send it.
/r/seduction06/05/14 03:08 AM
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Don't ask her. Give her a time and date. If she can't make it and is interested, she'll let you know. I don't Recomendo asking a girl for her schedule unless you've already gone on a few dates already.
/r/seduction06/05/14 01:33 AM
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As ridiculous as it sounds, I'm 5'9, but I would give anything to be 6'2-6'3. I feel the tall guys don't even have to look good or dress well. Some of my tall friends dress like homeless guys, and they still get girls to approach them, just because they're tall. And I also have a thing for tall girls...
/r/seduction05/05/14 04:15 AM
2

If it's coming from a heathy place (doing it because it's just you. It's self-expression) you won't have any problems. You'll get compliments. [if it was this, this question wouldn't exist] That is so true, and that probably explains why I rarely get complimented on it (I did at first, but not anymore), it probably gives off a vibe that I'm not authentically doing it. However, I am not purposely doing it to impress people or come above people. I guess part of it was because I went to a high scho…
/r/seduction05/05/14 12:41 AM
1

You don't want to show her you have balls, you have to show her you're an impressive guy twitch strict boundaries. You do this by asking her out the right way. It's better to ask her out on a date then get her phone number than doing it the other way around. And, just because it's worked for you so far, it doesn't mean it's a cheat code that'll work for everyone.
/r/seduction04/05/14 03:50 PM
1

You'd be surprise how many girls give you their number, even if they're not interested. And saying, "give me your number and I'll hit you up about the movie" is fine, just don't put your phone in her hand - that's too weird.
/r/seduction04/05/14 03:29 PM
2

And how many of those girls that you get a number like this actually agree to go on a date? It's best to just ask for her phone number and let her give it to you, then you pull out your phone and take it, then shoot her a text later that night - something to the extent of [hb's name] it was nice talking to you, I'll call you this weekend to set something up." Yes you can get a girls number like this, but make sure there is enough attraction or else it's not going to become a date. A number is wo…
/r/seduction04/05/14 02:53 PM
1

Not really. If some girl didn't respond, and Megan Fox, for instance, agreed to go out with me, I wouldn't have bothered to text girl 1 in the first place. It worked because that was a semi-rejection, and she hated it. You should have actually said she couldn't come, and set something up for another time. That would have really upped your value.
/r/seduction04/05/14 03:47 AM
1

He has a girlfriend and we're really tight so I told him I just wanted to go around and pick up chicks, he was fine with it. I don't recommend going out with that mindset — it gives off a vibe that you want something from the girls when you talk to them and I kind of feel that I have to pick up a chick, and if I don't I feel like I wasted my time. I went in, sat beside her, and then leaned and whispered to her "psst, could I borrow a pencil". She was about to get one for me and then I just chuck…
/r/seduction04/05/14 03:40 AM
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5 day she send me snaps of here shopping and i send a snapchat of a girl in yogapants with the text "they would look good on that ass of yours" She sends picture back with the text "wtf haha" What did you expect? Of course that comes off as a little creepy and she's not going to respond in a flirty style because you're not that close...
/r/seduction04/05/14 03:27 AM
1

Not to be a douche, but how exactly can you : Chill out and treat the other girls the same and suddenly you'll have similar results across the board. I've tried this dozens of times, and I just can't stop making myself feel nervous. Typically with these type of girls, I see them as a little bit above me, and I have already demonstrated that I was into them, but they're ambiguous about their interest, and I just can't help feeling nervous. How exactly do you manage to calm yourself?
/r/seduction04/05/14 12:11 AM
1

The key to doing well with girls you like is integrity. Be a man of principle; as long as you live by your principles, you're doing the right thing. Principles include things like respect, honesty, taking action, and being a man of your word. You can't control how confident you feel, but you can control how well you stick to your principles. This is right. Sometimes you just get nervous around a girl you like (if you like someone that means you respect them and maybe even see them above you) and…
/r/seduction04/05/14 12:07 AM
3

What's the rate from opening stranger to date, I don't think I've seen that on here before.
/r/seduction02/05/14 01:44 AM
2

I hope you don't mean it literally.
/r/seduction02/05/14 01:43 AM
1

I've never gotten shot down because of looks in real life. Do you even do approaches then?
/r/seduction02/05/14 01:37 AM
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Mr. /u/jack3d-- how many pictures do you have on, and do you have a bio?
/r/seduction01/05/14 03:36 PM
2

Like what? What did you say to her? Did you ask her to be your girlfriend? You never put a woman on the spot like that, you don't ask her to consciously make a decision that is about her emotional reaction. I asked her is she wanted to go on another "date" with me, perhaps saying date wasn't a good idea, and saying hang out would have been better. However, I've read here that saying "date" is better, so I tried that. elevate her mood, and escalate physically when her emotional state is high. Pre…
/r/seduction01/05/14 03:04 AM
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As I was telling someone else here, as I was walking with a girl back to campus today after getting coffee, she told me she didn't like me like that and just wanted to be friends. I said: "sure I still think you're an interest person and would love to be your friend," (I don't plan on calling her or anything) then I started feeling like that and she wouldn't even make eye contact with me, and she said let's change the conversation and it was really awkward, so I just said I got to make a phone c…
/r/seduction01/05/14 02:21 AM
1

Question: does that screw up your game and gets better with experience?
/r/seduction01/05/14 01:40 AM
1

I was out with a girl today and she told me that she didn't like me that way, but still wanted to be friends. After she said that I got nervous like the way I explained. Was that just one-sided sexual tension then?
/r/seduction01/05/14 01:36 AM
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"I wanted to see if there was a spark"
/r/seduction30/04/14 03:49 AM
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I mean, I get what you're saying, but sometimes I've been so nervous, and the girl asks me if I'm nervous. What are you suppose to do then? Even if you lie, she'll know you're nervous. You're better admiting to it if she asks you about it.
/r/seduction29/04/14 06:28 PM
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The way I've combatted this is treating how much I see them as how much I'd hang out with a new friend. When you meet a potential friend you set up a time to hang out, you don't fantasize about the future of your friendship and you make sure it naturally compliments your life. You'll go a week without contact then hit them up with a "let's grab dinner". It naturally works. Yes, this is perfect!
/r/seduction28/04/14 07:49 PM
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My abridged texting guide: use it only for logistics - get a date or don't waste your time. keep texts are formal as possible. you can text, whenever you want and it can be as long as you want at whatever time you want, just don't be needy. The problem a lot of guys have here is that they used to text girls 24/7, and that's fine, but that's a good indicator of how much shit awesome you have going on. Do you think Brad Pitt would a girl all day long? No he's fucking busy actually nailing her. Get…
/r/seduction28/04/14 07:48 PM
1

Honestly, if you're into a guy, just practice kino on him, and if he's interested and not stupid, he'll know what's up. Also, you can ask a guy out on a date — a few girls have asked me out on dates, and I don't think any less of them. Men are more simple in that they know instantly if they'd date a certain girl or not.
/r/seduction28/04/14 07:43 PM
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This and, "hey, what's up? I'm Rusty" have been my most powerful pick up lines ever for me. I used to open with stupid shit all the time, but girls would feel the conversation was not genuine and that I was insecure, and they wouldn't ask me to leave, but it would become blatantly obvious they didn't want to talk to me. However, every time I ask women for opinions on stuff like my hair or clothes that has never gone bad either. I still prefer opening with this though, and feeling out what kind o…
/r/seduction28/04/14 07:39 PM
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I agree with everything here, except: I avoided her facebook page because I knew it would hurt too much. Yesterday I finally succumbed because I was feeling lonely and decided to see what she's been doing for the past 2 months. She hasn't been doing a damn thing. That is a terrible mindset. Her journey isn't your journey. Your reaction was based on how she was doing. I understand that you cared a lot about her and one point, but you went your separate ways. I would not advice you to check her Fa…
/r/seduction28/04/14 07:31 PM
1

Holy shit! This is very similar to my story except I'm still in college, and I'm just at the point where I found a hobby which I really like. Good post!
/r/seduction24/04/14 04:41 AM
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It's never too late to start. Just be aware that you're not going to get good right away. Before I was into PUA, I would get a few dates, and after I got into this, I gained more confidence, but I didn't come off as genuine, so I would actually get rejected more often than before I got into this. My best piece of advice is to be genuine and interested, but not needy. Take risks.
/r/seduction23/04/14 01:07 AM
1

What's your ratio for this?
/r/seduction21/04/14 10:06 PM
2

Is that really a shit test? I think your best bet would just be to freeze or agree with her and call it a night, but I could be wrong.
/r/seduction21/04/14 01:14 AM
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If you haven't built any rapport/attraction, don't bother. When I'm talking to a girl who is interested, I can pretty well tell if she's going to say yes or not. Is there a difference between rapport and attraction? I can build emotional connection and have emotional conversations, it seems like you used them interchangeable there.
/r/seduction20/04/14 06:41 AM
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Avoid the reputation by only asking girls that show you signs that they are interested. What would you consider signs of attraction? I mostly tease girls, and they respond well to it. Sometimes I know a girl might say yes based on the way she looks at me/her eye, but I haven't seen anything about this on Seddit, are there any key things you can please tell me? And, thanks for the other pieces of advice, I'll do that too!
/r/seduction20/04/14 06:13 AM
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Not really any port in the storm per se — the girl has to be able to hold a conversation with me, and I have to like her. I'm not trying to fuck them, I just really want to get better with women and find a quality gf.
/r/seduction20/04/14 06:10 AM
1

Step back, be more selective with your targets, and stop looking like a horndog. Will do, boss!
/r/seduction20/04/14 06:08 AM
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Don't do that, you'd probably feel more insecure if you lost your virginity to a prostitute. Just work on improving yourself, and you're bound to meet someone.
/r/seduction20/04/14 01:04 AM
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so that we didn't do something stupid like hire an overly confident idiot. So someone cocky? I don't think confidence can ever be bad in the hiring process.
/r/seduction19/04/14 12:38 AM
1

How tall are you?
/r/seduction18/04/14 04:15 PM
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How is that even possible? Is he not using it right or does Tinder always have a low outcome?
/r/seduction17/04/14 06:12 PM
1

Twelvedayslate - I saw you posted a poster on /r/getmotivated. It's very inspiring — I'm totally going to do something with my life now! THANK YOU! I <3! ... Will you go on a date with me now? Sorry, I don't mean to be a dick about it, I'm just trying to make a point.
/r/seduction17/04/14 06:09 PM
1

Ok, post back if she responds, I'm curious to know if it works.
/r/seduction17/04/14 06:04 PM
1

He might as well send her one last message, I doubt she'll even respond, but Hey he already screw it up really bad so why not? However, anything after that would be too much.
/r/seduction17/04/14 06:03 PM
0

Where I go to school, the average height for guys is like 6'3-6'4 and girls tend to be 5'8-5'11, and I'm 5'9 - 5'10. I've been rejected because of my height plenty of times, but my genetics is something that I can't change no matter how much I work. Sometimes you just got to make the best with the cars you've been dealt even if you can't change it.
/r/seduction17/04/14 05:10 AM
1

You ask them for their numbers and you ask them if you can add them on Facebook. People don't have bad reactions if you seek them unless you say offensive or weird things.
/r/seduction17/04/14 04:58 AM
0

Gotcha, but if some dude congratulated on running a marathon, and you knew that he didn't give two shits about that, and he was just using that as an opener, wouldn't that be a slap in the face insult?
/r/seduction17/04/14 04:33 AM
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If she's into feminism, and you're not, why didn't you change the conversation? The conversation has to be what interests the both of you, or else you won't build rapport and comfort. Don't tell her you don't have any friends... Just don't. She'll wonder why. You were to wishy washy, you should have given her a time and place. Anything else is beta. I don't know if she'll respond, but if she doesn't, I'll saw a post yesterday where Happyjerk told someone to send a girl: "Ok well it looks like yo…
/r/seduction17/04/14 04:26 AM
1

It's not that hard to find parties. From my experience (I don't live on campus this year), people rarely invite you to parties out of the blue, unless you're in a club or sport and it's a pretty big party. Usually, you have to sort of "invite yourself" into the party. What I do is: make a few acquaintances in my classes or clubs, and I'll get their phone numbers or Facebook. When the weekend comes along, I'll message or ask them in person if I see them asking them if they're going to any parties…
/r/seduction17/04/14 04:18 AM
1

Although I like this advice, I don't agree that 99% of life's problems can be solved with force of will.
/r/seduction17/04/14 04:13 AM
1

This is going to sound weird, but when I'm feeling "inadequate", I just pretend I'm Brad Pitt or some hot shot celebrity, and I act like how I think they would act and it usually causes my emotional state to change...
/r/seduction17/04/14 04:12 AM
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unless i miraculously saw them on the street which very rarely happens to me. From experience, you're better off running into them, but if there's only a 1% chance of that happening why not try? I've gotten girl's numbers on Facebook, but when I text them to hang, they've been flaky — there isn't much captivation for her to go out with you. However, when I've run into those same girls in person, they've actually invited me to party or hang out after, even if I thought they weren't into me.
/r/seduction17/04/14 04:08 AM
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For example if you saw the girl had recently run a marathon, say, I saw your post about running a marathon... congratulations! Something like that. Don't do that, she'll easily catch wind that you don't give two shits about her running the marathon and you're only contacting her to sleep with her. The best way is to be a bit more direct, say: "Hey, we haven't talked in a while, I hope all is well!" It's a good message because its not needy, and it doesn't lower your value if she doesn't respond.
/r/seduction17/04/14 04:04 AM
2

Thanks for that, but getting back to my orinigal question, are you saying that body language interest isn't as important then?
/r/seduction13/04/14 03:20 PM
3

Because body language plays a big role on the interest barometer, would you recommend using disinterested body language or genuine, open, interested body language, or something inbetween?
/r/seduction12/04/14 09:13 PM
1

Does that really work? I've done that a few times and the girl just stops talking about him and changes the conversation. Last weekend, I told a girl that her boyfriend sounded like a loser, and she agreed and started giving me some huge ioi's after that. Idk it's too complicated, I guess the best thing to to is maybe not overact.
/r/seduction12/04/14 12:57 AM
0

Did you know these girls for a while? Not really, at best I'll know them for about 2-4 weeks. You didn't escalate or bring up any kind of sexual attraction early on, they saw you as a friend and now it's too late. You gotta plant the seeds early How, do I make the conversations more sexual, or should I ask them out on dates sooner?
/r/seduction11/04/14 07:19 PM
1

Question: why... Just why do women reject guys if they like them? It seems counterproductive.
/r/seduction11/04/14 06:16 PM
3

As weird as this sounds, when I used to get rejected (when I first got into pua) , the rejection would drive me to do better in every aspect of my life (e.g., run one more mile, write that extra sentence in hw assignment, try harder at work, etc.,). Rejections sucks the first few times, but it really pushed me to better yourself, so hopefully it has the same effect on you.
/r/seduction08/04/14 11:52 PM
3

and if you can't get others like her then she was too good for you so no big loss How would that not be a big loss, I don't understand that logic.
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:48 PM
0

never have sex with anyone that doesn't want it as much as you do Why? As long as you have consent what's wrong?
/r/seduction05/04/14 11:26 PM
1

This is good! Now that were on the topic of shit tests, question: if a girl that previously rejected you to go out starts shit testing you or trying to make you jealous, what does that mean (possible ioi/iod)?
/r/seduction05/04/14 03:04 PM
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TL;DR: Most women want to be pursued, even when they say they don't. / It's really hard to be a guy, since we have to go though a lot of effort to try and decipher the secret code of what women mean and want when they say and do the things they say and do. Well tough shit, if she's playing games or is not responsive, you next her, not persue.
/r/seduction04/04/14 05:26 PM
1

Question: are shit-tests an IOI? For the most part, girls that are into me rarely shit test me (but the still do), however, I always get concerned when a girl hasn't shit tested me at all.
/r/seduction04/04/14 07:03 AM
3

It is generally accepted in in the PUA community that your should show disinterest with your body language (e.g., cross arms) and show verbal interest. What's your opinion in that?
/r/seduction01/04/14 06:51 PM
1

A lot of taller girls (6 feet tall) don't get hit on because they are tall and were awkward at one point. I agree with everything except this. A ton of taller (6 ft+) girls have shot me down only because of my height (I'm 5'9). And, taller girls get hit on a bunch too, idk what you're talking about.
/r/seduction30/03/14 06:51 PM
5

Yes you're either delusional or above average height.
/r/seduction30/03/14 03:05 PM
4

Don't do that. Earlier this week, a girl next to me on the treadmill asked me something, and we were talking and laughing (I wasn't even gaming her), then out of nowhere here piece of shit boyfriend charges towards us and tells me to get off my thread mill so that he can run with his girlfriend. I said: "I don't think so", so he literally dragged her off the machine and put his arm around her and walked her to another thread mill. I feel that putting your arm around her shows insecurity and come…
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:32 PM
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I mean, I'm in college and I'm bound to run into those girls which have rejected me and such, so I want to know how I can better my odds with them.
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:14 AM
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Attracting your best friend who's put you in the friend zone for years Stealing a girl who's currently in a horrible relationship (if she's in a good one, leave her alone) I agree with everything expect this. Also, most of my approaches never go as I has visualized them, so visualize them would not help. Nothing beats getting some pragmatic application.
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:01 AM
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Sorry, as a woman I can tell you most of your ideas about women are formed on stereotypes. I'm curious, what would you consider an "alpha" way for a guy to respond when a girl rejects him?
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:40 AM
1

What if they're attractive and smart?
/r/seduction27/03/14 01:10 AM
1

But aren't they essentially two roads to the same city?
/r/seduction26/03/14 09:29 PM
1

She said that we should just be friends, so do I still have a chance?
/r/seduction26/03/14 06:35 PM
2

She said:"lets just be friends", so idk if it's still on the table.
/r/seduction26/03/14 03:41 PM
1

This is why you take the advice women give you with a grain of salt. Everything she says is contradictory.
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:12 PM
6

They don't like it because that "hot girl" isn't that impressive to them, they know they can get her whenever they want. Why would they spend a second liking it when they can just ask her out in person?
/r/seduction22/03/14 10:03 PM
1

My abridged guide: don't think, just fucking do it. Rejection hurts, but it's bettering than wondering what could've been. Edit: I get rejected a to , and trust me most girls will turn you down nicely and act like it hurt them to reject you (probably not the case, but it helps me feel better).
/r/seduction22/03/14 08:42 PM
2

Doesn't matter. I've dated hipster chicks, vegan hippies, preppy girls, etc...
/r/seduction22/03/14 08:36 PM
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From my experience those girls tend to be the type of girls that are either desperate (I.e., want to be in a relationship for no other reason than to be in one, need attention or someone to water down their insecurities, etc.) or faking the interest (e.g., one girl told me she loved me after 6 dates than dumped me after our 7th date).
/r/seduction22/03/14 08:33 PM
1

I do treat them nice, but I have the mentality of "reject me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best." Just like she changed her mind, I also changed my mind about her. And, I also feel its a bit below my dignity to go out with her if she rejected me once. One of my friends got rejected by a girl, but the 6 months later when he became the president of the company, she was all over him. He wasn't into her anymore, but she suplicated him. The girl blew her chance.
/r/seduction22/03/14 06:08 PM
2

it's always better to be interested than interesting.
/r/seduction22/03/14 07:24 AM
1

Does rejection ever get easier? I don't ever wish the girls any bad, moreover, most girls turn me down in a nice way, and genuinely seemed hurt to reject me (they probably didn't give two shits deep down), but that doesn't make getting rejected any easier.
/r/seduction22/03/14 06:12 AM
1

Your body language is a huge part of flirting (I personally think most of it), so try to use some. Thanks, I'll give that a shot!
/r/seduction22/03/14 06:06 AM
1

For what it's worth, I had banged 2-3 chicks by the time I was 19 and now i'm 23 and it's 20+ or maybe closer to 30. I'm on the same boat for far, so hopefully it gets better as I progress. something clicks where you don't mind rejection and genuinely wish the girl to have a wonderful life despite the fact that she doesn't want you in it. That's a smart way to look at it. I really hope girls that have dumped me or rejected me have a successful life, I really thought they were interesting enough …
/r/seduction22/03/14 05:23 AM
1

Are you serious? I feel FREAKING stupid right now!
/r/seduction21/03/14 03:30 AM
1

But don't you want that pressure on her, and doesn't that state your interest off the start? what do you say to ask women out then?
/r/seduction18/03/14 04:02 AM
1

What if you ask her if she would like to go on a date with you, then you ask her for her number? she would be less likely to flake not because she verbally agreed on it, but because of the frame.
/r/seduction17/03/14 06:28 PM
1

"I meant this Sunday, and today was good for me. It sucks that you couldn't make it today, but I'll call you sometime soon to make plans again"
/r/seduction17/03/14 02:42 AM
3

As soon as you can!
/r/seduction16/03/14 10:31 PM
5

If the girl is boring, you next her, as simple as that.
/r/seduction16/03/14 09:02 PM
1

How long have you been friends? If it's been for a while, say: "id date you if it wasn't for the fact that were really good friends" and see how she reacts, and proceed from that. If you guys have recently began to hang out ask her: "hey, I'm interested in you, want to go on a date with me"
/r/seduction16/03/14 09:00 PM
1

It means whatever you make out of the situation when you hang out next time. . It's really not a big deal at all and girls say that all the time. Neither of you guys has probably made the first move yet, and this is probably her way of making it.
/r/seduction16/03/14 08:47 PM
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You're not getting what I'm saying. If you're living an interesting life, a girl can tell and pick up on it just by your body language.
/r/seduction16/03/14 07:15 PM
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WHY?... Just why would anyone want to do use those gimmicks? Do you think Brad Pitt needs to use those gimmicks to make a girl interested in him? A girl isn't going to be impressed by that, in fact, she'll probably be creeped out. You'd be better off talking about stuff you guys both have in common. Edit: I'm arguing that you shouldn't use those games when you first meet a girl or use them as openers — that's just weird. If you're on a date, that's another story.
/r/seduction16/03/14 06:20 PM
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Gotcha, sarge. I actually froze up when she invited me over to her apartment because I thought she wasn't into me on the count of age difference (she's 24 to my 19).
/r/seduction16/03/14 12:21 AM
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Because I chickened out. I already liked her on Tinder this time though, should I ask her out in person though, on Monday, the next time i see her or what?
/r/seduction15/03/14 10:55 PM
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should i like her tinder though, or just ask her out?
/r/seduction15/03/14 10:38 PM
4

If we made eye contact or bumped into each other I would justapproach her and say say Hi, then carry on with what im doing. It'd be a bit rude and it would make it appear as if you're still not over her if you ignore her, and having a conversation is counter productive. Nonetheless, at the end of the day it doesn't matter, you guys are over.
/r/seduction15/03/14 04:57 AM
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You'd be surprised how much the average guy is afraid of rejection
/r/seduction15/03/14 04:53 AM
0

This is amazing, thanks!
/r/seduction14/03/14 05:35 AM
4

How can you be so sure he was a pua?
/r/seduction13/03/14 02:18 AM
0

True, but I don't see how you cannot be in a friendzone relationship if she rejected you
/r/seduction12/03/14 06:08 PM
5

That seems kind if demeaning, and she'll always have the upper hand in the relationship like that.
/r/seduction12/03/14 04:54 PM
8

It's a shit test. I responded "omg bob sounds like just my type of guy, I'd like to meet him." And she stopped talking about the guy immediately. But now that I have more game, I'd probably say: "are you interested in him?" or "he sounds like a loser compared to me"
/r/seduction12/03/14 02:34 AM
4

YES! You don't even got to ask that question.
/r/seduction11/03/14 03:38 AM
1

Dennis has the right idea in that he engages girls physically fast and he demonstrates higher value, and is less emotionally attaches than the girl. I don't encode the manipulation aspect though.
/r/seduction10/03/14 11:59 PM
1

you shouldn't get too emotionally invested in a girl before she gets emotionally invested in you. How do you genuinely stay less emotionally invested? I was on a date this weekend, and I told myself that I would stay less emotionally invested than she is, but idk what happened. I was not really into her at first, but throughout the date, we both opened up, and by the end, I was more interested in her than was in me, so she lost interest and left earlier than planned because it was really obvious…
/r/seduction10/03/14 05:55 PM
1

That is true, and that is something I need to work on. however, right now, it feels forced when I try it, and most girls usually leave me or give me closed body language when I try it. Surprisingly being serious, and a bit disinterested has worked for me though...
/r/seduction10/03/14 04:06 AM
1

Although I agree with your main tenet, I don't think you should say "You got it; just sex, no funny business", if you guys don't have a witty personality, which most people can't tell if you mean half the things you say. Because I'm not like that, and I know a lot of guys here aren't, I think we'd be better off saying: "Dang, you seem like an interesting person, and I want to get to know you, but I'm looking to date. Good luck with everything."
/r/seduction10/03/14 03:32 AM
3

Always wear darker pants than shirts Why?
/r/seduction09/03/14 08:20 PM
1

How could I do that? She's not answering my questions, or has pulled out or phone or something.
/r/seduction06/03/14 03:27 AM
2

Usually if I ask both of them a question, the more attractive one will respond, and when she notices that her friend doesn't respond the question, she'll answer what her friend would have said (e.g., where do you work? "I work at X" and "Z works at Y").
/r/seduction06/03/14 12:30 AM
1

Chances are the guys compliment her on her looks; instead, focus on complimenting her outfit or any accessories she has. That's what you're suppose to do. Never compliment girls on looks — from my experience, it never goes well... For me that is.
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:49 AM
7

No, you don't have to neg her, she will know you're negging her — she's probably used to getting negged as much as she is used to getting complimented. I'm sorry, but looks are either a pass or fail for me. I cannot fathom how a person can tell the difference between an 8 and a 9. I don't give a shit how attractive she is — I would rather date a decent looking girl with a high ambition and intelligence, and good sense of humor than a 10 that only has her looks going for her. I would actually cal…
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:47 AM
8

I'm sure some of you guys would use this as an opener, but I would only do this on a date.
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:10 AM
3

Should you ever call a girl out on a shit? Like just ask her: hey, are you asking me this to see how I respond?
/r/seduction05/03/14 12:04 AM
2

This only works if the girl is interested in you to some extent, but doesn't know if going on a date would be worth her time. After I flaked on a date today, a girl texted me: "Looks like you aren't interested. Good luck with everything." I didn't even bother responding or even felt rejected, moreover, I felt relieved. FYI, she phrased it like that, so it reminded me of this post. So, moral of the story: first impressions are lasting impressions, so don't screw it up. Coming back is harder...
/r/seduction04/03/14 02:40 AM
1

1- >a picture of each other to show your boys If you go in with the mentality of showing a picture off to your friends, you're going to portray that in the conversation, and it'll fail. 2- Do girls actually agree to take the picture? I can't see that happening. One girl did randomly ask me if she can get in my snap chat picture once, but she told me not to send it to my friends (I was confused). 3- This only would work if the girl is actually interested in you already.
/r/seduction03/03/14 08:01 AM
2

What's a good first message like?
/r/seduction02/03/14 11:49 PM
3

don't put expectations on this meeting. don't even call it a date - it's just two people meeting to see if they like each other. realize she's probably asking her friends (or reddit) how to not be nervous as well. That's exactly what a date is for. I don't understand why people think they have to already like the person to call it a date.
/r/seduction02/03/14 01:17 AM
1

"It seems like you're not interested, don't bother"
/r/seduction01/03/14 05:27 PM
2

Reading every book on seduction does not mean shit to pragmatic field practice.
/r/seduction01/03/14 04:36 PM
2

Well, first you have to define confidence. To me, confidence is feeling you are above people (to some extent) and thinking you are so above them that you don't give two shits about saying the wrong thing or 'screwing up' because you are so above them that you don't care if they walk away, or you doubt they'll walk away. What I find helpful to do when I'm not feeling confident is I tend to zone out of the situation, and think about other things.
/r/seduction01/03/14 04:33 PM
1

Should I neg them?
/r/seduction01/03/14 12:44 AM
3

Good point.
/r/seduction26/02/14 03:49 AM
1

I forgot to mention it's only around women I'm trying to seduce. I think I act dominant and like a leader around them, but I might not be then...
/r/seduction26/02/14 03:48 AM
1

I have no idea how to respond to the friend trying to set up a date, as I find it rather intrusive. I also feel obligated to move forward with this girl, even though I think it's a bit soon. "I'm really busy this week, but I'll call Amy this weekend to set-up a date" 1- you want to have the date on your terms 2- her friend really has no place in this... Are you in high school? 3- It seems like she is interested, which makes it easier for you and you can afford to screw up and not game her. Just …
/r/seduction24/02/14 04:59 AM
5

I've been on dates with girls that just don't even make an effort to pay, they just look at me. I feel like I'm being taken advantage of, how would you respond to that?
/r/seduction24/02/14 04:54 AM
1

I like this.
/r/seduction24/02/14 04:52 AM
1

It depends on the situation and the girl. But for me, for first dates (i'm below 21), I personally like to take girls out to explore the city (because I've done it dozens of time, I practically feel like a tour guide, and it makes me seem like a guy who knows his shit), and then we get a slice of pizza for $5. I usually pay, unless she offers to, then she can pay.
/r/seduction24/02/14 04:51 AM
15

I never pass on a dress up party so I decided to wear my Christmas jammies. Go all out events like this, and own whatever you're working with, even if you're the only one. as she walked by me I slapped her on the arm and asked if I knew her from somewhere. From experience, this usually never works out well if you don't actually know them or have had a conversation with them. Women realize that you didn't have the confidence to make a real approach, and it goes downhill real fast. Edit: its easie…
/r/seduction24/02/14 04:31 AM
0

I've done it on 1-2 girls, but it only worked because I was genuinely not interested in a relationship with them at all anymore. I liked them as people, and just wanted to be their friends. I liked other women, and I thought that those girls could never ever like me because I was so beta before, but they ended up confessing their emotions to me, and I changed my mind.
/r/seduction17/02/14 06:13 AM
1

Wait what? No! don't do that!
/r/seduction10/02/14 08:06 AM
1

Don't give her what she wants to hear. its a shit test. Respond: "woah, you gotta buy me dinner to hit on me first" This set the frame that she's chasing after you you're still in control of the situation (e.g., if you respond something like hit on me, she takes control and has the upper hand) it funny
/r/seduction10/02/14 08:05 AM
1

you're right, my inner game is not as tight as it used to be, or as tight as I think it is. I'm going to definitely reread the sidebar and meditate on it. From my experience, things usually get worst before they get better.
/r/seduction10/02/14 02:16 AM
1

Yes, I have pictures to prove both things.
/r/seduction09/02/14 03:27 PM
-1

Yeah, that's fine and an easy way to initiate kino.
/r/seduction09/02/14 08:51 AM
6

She has her number on Facebook, would it be creepy if called her?
/r/seduction09/02/14 12:31 AM
1

That's actually a good question. I don't know. Social proof maybe? And I had a class with her last semester and she saw my humor (I participate a lot and everyone kind of liked me), although I never talked to her
/r/seduction08/02/14 09:58 PM
3

me: Are you free Friday night? [I realize how awful this line was so I quickly follow it up with...] me: Let's do Friday night :) it's the only night I don't have plans for yet That was a good save! I also like the fact that you had everything planned out, but didn't tell her until you met her. And, you also didn't ask for permission — you're the fucking man! FYI, I'm stealing the laser tagging date idea from you.
/r/seduction08/02/14 08:52 PM
1

1st girl: Tinder girls for the most part are not interested in anything serious. It's easier to get a one night stand with them though. 2nd girl: Although you got to make out with her, I think you came off as too needy or desperate. The only time a girl has told me that after making out was when I knew I said some needy shit or over complemented her to the point where she was essentially too good for me. 3rd girl: She's not interested. Just about every girl that I thought was prudish, I've seen …
/r/seduction08/02/14 05:33 AM
1

Why is this garbage? Although this is basic, those points (good posture, intelligence, ambition, working out, eye contact) are the fundamentals of good inner game.
/r/seduction08/02/14 05:23 AM
1

If a girl explicitly rejects you, you're done. Any further pursuing is below your dignity and only going to attribute more pains and heartaches. Although it's unhealthy, I had the "I'm going to make her regret breaking my heart because of how alpha I am," and it surprisingly motivated me to move on faster and work hard (run the extra mile, and write the extra sentence in my homework, push out the extra rep in the gym, etc.).
/r/seduction08/02/14 05:15 AM
1

Any girl can do a complete 180 on you. As you can read in the story above, the girl in that story ditched me AFTER I FUCKED HER. Women's emotions are a powerful and strange thing, and they will turn at the drop of a hat if you stop feeding them what they need. Aren't you exaggerating a bit? It might feel like that, but in retrospect I can honestly say I've noticed that women lose interest gradually, not instantly.
/r/seduction06/02/14 05:52 PM
4

Same. I'm not sure if gatsby is Beta though. He had his priorities straight and daisy never explicitly rejected him, so he wasn't chasing her. It was more of a persue. On the other hand, you can't repeat the past...
/r/seduction06/02/14 01:29 PM
2

Even if you don't have expertise/knowledge in the subject at least you are demonstrating your ability to control the frame and conversation. If they attempt to correct you, correct them back (either in terms of syntax or semantics). I understand where you're coming from, but wouldn't the doucheyness of that outweigh the alpha frame set? We were talking about Walden (its a book), I read it last year, but I couldn't recall anything from it at the moment. (I kind of felt like I had to prove to her …
/r/seduction06/02/14 05:10 AM
1

It is hard to be intimidated by a single girl when you have options my friend. True that, homeboy And next time I'm in a situation like this, I'll probably go into interview mode and get her to open up on the subject and see why exactly she likes it. As long as I'm guiding what were talking about, I'm still in charge.
/r/seduction06/02/14 05:05 AM
1

I've always had good luck with girls. In high school, I had social proof; I knew a few girls from local private schools, so those girls and girls from my hs would ask me to "hangout." I was a bit of a loner though. Sadly, when I got to college I struggled. Because I don't live on campus, I don't meet and develop emotional connections with girls on campus. But anywho, during my first year, I ran into a girl that I went to school with (she also lived a block away from me at home). She asked me out…
/r/seduction04/02/14 06:47 AM
25

she also tells me how she always liked me and that she felt I was "too good for her" and I didn't like her back. I should've realized this was a trap, because she caused me to tell HER how I thought SHE didn't like ME (which was true, of course). I'm positive she was toying with you last night. And it'll be fine, just give it time and don't worry about her. She's really a manipulator and emotionally unstable for doing that in the first place. Don't send her a whiny text, but you can send her a m…
/r/seduction02/02/14 04:34 PM
2

This, theres not much you can do about your looks after a certain extent. Of course girls will reject you solely on looks, but its better to be confident and happy with what you have then try to change what you can't control.
/r/seduction28/01/14 06:06 AM
2

Good post!
/r/seduction27/01/14 04:50 AM
1

Per my Psychology class, last week we learned that to get over a girlfriend you must replace her, or give it time.
/r/seduction26/01/14 06:47 AM
18

The first is that I’m not happy about what you did at my party two weeks ago. You and your friends just pregamed at my placed and left. I was pissed.” Man, that was hard to say, but it felt good to start to get this off my chest. I knew I was prepared for what was to come. She began to look slightly defensive in addition to her surprise. “Well, I thought I told you that I was just stopping by.” I could see in her eyes that she knew that this wasn’t going to be a happy ending. I kept on with my p…
/r/seduction26/01/14 05:00 AM
2

In general, it's best to show verbal interest, and no interest with your body language, or so I've read. But, it's really dependent on where you are too.
/r/seduction23/01/14 07:16 AM
1

I'll try this next time lol, good one!
/r/seduction22/01/14 10:28 PM
1

I am a moron, lol! I was just taken aback that she actually liked me because I thought she had friendzoned me.
/r/seduction22/01/14 09:03 PM
0

Damn, I was stupid. She actually grabbed my hand and took me outside, and it still didn't click in me after that. I just said, "what are you doing?" The problem is: I'm genuinely not looking for a relationship right now and we've been friends for a while, so I just dropped my guard really low...
/r/seduction22/01/14 08:54 PM
1

So true, and I really screwed pooch on this one. :/
/r/seduction22/01/14 08:49 PM
1

well now I know. We all make mistakes.
/r/seduction22/01/14 08:48 PM
-2

Shouldn't the kiss be on my terms though? She'll get the upper hand in the relationship if I kiss her when she suggests.
/r/seduction22/01/14 05:41 AM
1

My friend and her friend we're in the room, so at the moment I didn't think so
/r/seduction22/01/14 01:30 AM
1

A girl was telling me that there are so many gays at our university, so the only way to know if a guy is straight is to grab him and make out with. She then added that she'd asked them if they liked it. I just ignored what she said
/r/seduction21/01/14 11:59 PM
8

"This is hard for me to say because I know how much you care about me. You have been nothing but one of the nicest and most caring people I've ever met, and I am so happy that I met you. It's just that right now, I don't know if I am ready for a relationship like this. I have a lot of thing a that I need to figure out with my life and that need my attention, and I cannot guarantee that I will be there for you 100% of the time. You don't deserve a "part-time" boyfriend. I only say this because I …
/r/seduction20/01/14 11:35 PM
-8

I'm probably going to get down voted for this, but I just ignore them. They're not stupid, and regardless of what you say, its still going to hurt them. Its probably best for them to figure it out on their own.
/r/seduction20/01/14 11:29 PM
0

if a girl sent me that, I'd immediately know what was up, and would be even more hurt than if I didn't get a response. It's probably best to ignore her. Regardless of what you say, she's going to hate you.
/r/seduction20/01/14 11:08 PM
2

From my experiance, being textually active with young girls is a crucial for them, but I wouldn't encourage you to send more than 8 messages a day to her. I've been in relationships were I text a girl 100+ messages a day. And We usually run out thing to say in person and we can't have deep conversations in person because we've already had them over text, so we end up not clicking, despite our similarities. Stick to snapchat!
/r/seduction20/01/14 12:46 AM
1

Dating Rules 1: Don't be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman's worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toes and take it in the ass if she thinks you don't view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won't find out.) Then why do so many girls seduce guys at parties and get the guy to make out with them on the spot? I've seen that happened a bunch of times, and I've had girls just make out with me in front of their friends at parties... and they weren't even drunk.
/r/seduction18/01/14 09:21 PM
7

Good post! A lot of people are afraid of rejection, but it's not a big deal. I honestly think of myself as a Barney Stinson of some sort when I get rejected — in the show, much like in real life, he has to ask so many girls for sex before he actually has sex (I think he proves that he has a 10% success rate in one episode). Now that I'm talking about Barney, he should be our icon - he's got inner and outer game (a good job, nice apartment, mercedes, works out, etc.,) Might just be 1am me talking…
/r/seduction14/01/14 06:30 AM
-13

This.
/r/seduction14/01/14 06:05 AM
17

If she's not interested its oneitis And from my sad experience, chasing hardly ever works. In fact the opposite, it makes you feel like shit because of the desperate shit you've do sometime, and the fact that she couldn't feel more indifferent about you. :/
/r/seduction13/01/14 07:32 PM
1

It seems to me like she wears the pants in the 'relationship'. Its probably best to tell her that your schedule is clustered and you'll get back to her when you're free, and then randomly text her one day to go out the next day or so.
/r/seduction13/01/14 07:31 PM
3

That's actually better, but I'd suggest he gives a place or day, it comes off more confident.
/r/seduction13/01/14 12:38 AM
2

This is almost the exact same story I had with my first college girlfriend, I could swear you stole this from me, lol! But, like you said, rejection and breakups are inevitable, but if you have a fulfilling life, its easier to move on. And, although I have never seen my exes after we've broken up, its still better to end on good terms because theres honestly no point in childish behavior or anything.
/r/seduction13/01/14 12:34 AM
8

But real heart winning is done much easier and more effectively in real life. So stop. Aim for as little texting conversation as possible, and strive for more real life interaction. I call it a good day when I've sent less than 1 text per girl. I like this, the OP is real, and gets to the point.
/r/seduction13/01/14 12:23 AM
1

Ask her out, theres not much more you can do, or anything else to talk about until you hang out. I'd say something along the lines of: "They have you doing _____ at work?" and then ask her out next message.
/r/seduction13/01/14 12:14 AM
16

This guy is right. With love, you usually find it when you're not looking for it, at all.
/r/seduction12/01/14 06:42 PM
3

Is that really a good idea? Wouldn't you be better off treating it like day game and show your interest? I have seen study group thing work, but the girl usually just gives in because no other guy is alpha enough to ask her out the proper way...
/r/seduction12/01/14 06:26 PM
2

If you're facebook is going to make you look like a loser, DELETE IT! But for the most part, it doesn't matter at all. From experience, I doubt you would randomly sleep with someone on your friends list, if you don't talk to them often, but I have had a bunch of girls stalk the crap out of me of there, and they have lost interest because I don't have any picture of me with women up.
/r/seduction12/01/14 07:01 AM
2

Honestly yes. Before seddit, I had a miserable life, but I up'ed everything, and became more ambitious in what I do. I can honestly say that the amount of happiness in my life would not change if I had a girlfriend or not because I don't need women in my life now, so my body language portrays me as more confident and less needy, thus, I now get girls interested in me all the time despite the fact that I don't want anything with them (and that usually makes them want me more).
/r/seduction12/01/14 06:52 AM
3

You can't be, especially if you're young. For example, from my experience in college, a relationship means nothing to some girls — girls with boyfriends (most of them are lDR thought) have offered me sex a bunch of times. However, most decent girls, won't cheat. If she does cheat, it sucks, but at least you found out she wasn't worth it, and you never have to look back.
/r/seduction12/01/14 06:45 AM
19

She didn't respond, but she called me like 3 hours later to see what I was doing, so I guess it worked.
/r/seduction11/01/14 08:37 PM
26

Send her a snapchat that basically says you don't give a shit if she send you another snapchat or not. Last night a girl sent me one while I was out, and I responded with a picture of a cab that had it's fuel tank open.
/r/seduction11/01/14 08:28 PM
1

Good analogy!
/r/seduction11/01/14 08:24 PM
1

Respond later, or tell her that you're busy and will talk to her later. No girl has ever lost interest in me when I tell her I'm at work, and I'll text her later and never do. In fact the opposite, it's demonstrated higher value. Do you think Brad Pitt would text a girl while he's getting his workout, for example? No, his workout is more important to him than that girl.
/r/seduction11/01/14 08:24 PM
1

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! Don't do that! I'd act uninterested and flake on her, it's rude that she told you she had another date earlier that week in the first place. She's could be seeing other guys, but its rude to tell another date about it. I would maybe set a good frame like: "I'm more fun than that other loser." If she mentions him again though, tell her that its rude and lose interest.
/r/seduction11/01/14 08:21 PM
53

It really depends on the girl. If she's a tease, she's probably doing it for attention, so don't give it to her. If it's from a quiet girl girl, shwing!
/r/seduction11/01/14 05:19 PM
3

In this case, you don't want to "agree and amplify," you'll sound like a douche bag. Just say thanks and continue with the conversation. The fact that you just brushed it off passes the shit test.
/r/seduction11/01/14 06:17 AM
5

you're fucking something up bud. Some said they were fucked up by previous ex boyfriend and couldn't give back what I was giving them. By the looks of this, you're probably coming in too strong too quick. Don't show interest in the girl unless she's done something to deserve it. Sorry, dude.
/r/seduction11/01/14 05:51 AM
2

Do you find it helpful to spank the monkey before going out to ease the nerves and keep yourself from seeming only interested in sex? YES, despite the fact that a lot of people advice you to sway away from it, it makes me feel less horny and I don't get a boner as easily when we kiss. Don't use porn though.
/r/seduction11/01/14 02:57 AM
2

heres you're problem: you took her to the Cheesecake Factory, and you didn't even get to kiss her? I only take girls to the Cheesecake Factory if I'm going to fuck them afterwards. Facepalm You're job and salary is impartial to this — you want to send a message that conveys your value, not wealth. Dude, this qirl is using you, lose her!
/r/seduction11/01/14 12:50 AM
1

Hey, I'm picking you up and we are going out/ This might be besides the point, but is it generally better to pick up girls or meeting up?
/r/seduction11/01/14 12:31 AM
2

Best text game skills keep it short and simple use grammar and sound intelligent send messages that don't need to be responded to honestly, don't text too much. Keep it to a minimum. I personal don't send more than 6 messages a day to one girl. I'd rather talk to her in person
/r/seduction11/01/14 12:24 AM
1

What if you finish in like 10 seconds your first time? It's pretty clear your inexperience
/r/seduction11/01/14 12:12 AM
9

This is what I usually say and they usually text me back the next day or within a week: "I understand where you're coming from, Best of luck to you. It was a pleasure getting to know you." Honestly though, if she doesn't text you back within two weeks, don't bother waiting for her, forget and never look back. I used to like keeping hope, but that only made it harder for me to move on.
/r/seduction11/01/14 12:05 AM
1

I'll be 19 in 2 months with my first kiss yet to be experienced. Glad to know I'll be a winner when that happens. Dude, don't worry about that at all. You're on the right path, but you gotta take action and work on inner confidence. I didn't have my first kiss until I was 19. After, I found seddit and went through my transformation, my confidence when through the roof, and I've slept with a ton of chicks.
/r/seduction09/01/14 06:17 AM
1

Hmm, you'd probably be better off not talking to her until you transfer or February. There's no point in text her or talking to her if you're not going to be able to see her. Plus, if you do text/call her everyday, you're going to run out of things to talk about in person, and you're not going to be able to establish a real relationship. Maybe just randomly shoot her a text from time to time, but do not have conversations until you transfer or visit.
/r/seduction08/01/14 11:22 PM
1

Has a girl ever flat out reject you because of your height?
/r/seduction08/01/14 07:12 AM
-1

Teach me your ways, lol! Can you send me a few of the prewritten messages?
/r/seduction07/01/14 04:54 AM
3

She doesn't know if she likes you or not. Usually with girls like that is is best to give them space — maybe even tell her something along the lines of: "I understand where you're coming from," and then leave her alone. Don't waste your time on girls that don't know if they're attracted to you.
/r/seduction06/01/14 12:21 AM
1

Do you pay for the dates?
/r/seduction06/01/14 12:18 AM
3

Read: "the ultimate text guide" In a long distance relationship, the trick is to keep the sexual tensions.
/r/seduction05/01/14 10:51 PM
3

She doesn't kiss guys on first dates, but she hooks-up with guys at parties? Hm, thats a bit of an oxymoron. I don't think a text would've made much of a difference, she's not stupid and she's not going to forget you. Just ask her out!
/r/seduction05/01/14 10:30 PM
2

Its better to be mysterious, I have had friends lose a sure thing after a girl stalks their Facebook, but I've never had a friend lose a sure thing for not having a Facebook.
/r/seduction05/01/14 07:53 PM
5

You don't. It's not your job to entertain her on the phone. Only text for logistics.
/r/seduction05/01/14 07:50 PM
1

If a girl asks you this, you say: "I haven't found a girl that's interesting enough for me to date." It sets a good frame.
/r/seduction04/01/14 02:26 AM
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One strange thing about rejection anxiety is that if you are the one doing the rejecting, you feel nothing. That’s why a girl and a boy can date for years, and the girl can dump the boy and never talk to him again, while the boy loses his mind and can’t stop thinking about her and calling her. Is this true? I've had girls cry as they dump me. And I had an ex tell me she still had feelings for me a year later. Also, some guys, like me, have a great lives with fulfilling hobbies, but for some reas…
/r/seduction02/01/14 07:05 PM
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I know what you mean, but it might come off a bit douche and patronizing (i.e., you're not good enough for me to date you) .
/r/seduction02/01/14 06:13 AM
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Today I text her to wish her a happy new year Don't do that — it comes off as pathetic and needy. She would have to be more interested in you than you are in her for that to work. Do you think Brad Pitt would do that? Next time shoot her a call too. they make me feel frustrated and unattractive. You haven't been rejected enough. After I was rejected about 10-15 times, I just stopped caring, its like I genuinely forgot I asked them out, and I just didn't care.
/r/seduction01/01/14 08:23 PM
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via text There's your first mistake she wants to hang out and she says shes not sure(she knows whats up) What did you tell her? You didn't make a good enough impression You asked her via text did you say 'hang out'? — that makes you seem insecure, like you're not used to asking girls out often. If you know her from work, I would have play indirect game on her. I would have said, "hey, i'm thinking of going to Chipotle tomorrow after work. You're welcome to come when you get out." Or test the wat…
/r/seduction01/01/14 01:43 AM
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I've hit on a friend before, and really wish I hadn't. First of all, don't risk the friendship, unless you like her. You can't be friends after you hook-up with her. In my case, she tried to take advantage of me by having me pay for her stuff, giving her rides, and we weren't 'friends' anymore after that. you really just can't be. Also, I felt like I mislead her all along... I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but don't think with your dick. If you do want to get with her, it is best to just …
/r/seduction01/01/14 12:16 AM
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This, don't give them the satisfaction.
/r/seduction01/01/14 12:01 AM
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I became friends with her about a year ago, and we got close over this past summer. Please don't...
/r/seduction31/12/13 11:59 PM
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Question: Why does every guide recommend that you pull out first? I normally end the kiss, but I don't know the exact reason why you should
/r/seduction31/12/13 08:11 PM
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From my experience, guys that have a high abundance of chicks have a facebook and they have a really good profile picture. They might make a funny facebook status once a moor share a funny link once a month. For the most part however, they don't use it and they're getting tagged in pictures often.
/r/seduction31/12/13 04:24 AM
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Can confirm
/r/seduction31/12/13 04:18 AM
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But, a bunch of girls will facebook stalk you before a date...
/r/seduction31/12/13 04:16 AM
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Before I found this forum, I had the same thing happen to me. A girl shows a LOT of interest in me, then we date and she breaks up with my 2 weeks later. Surprisingly, they've said exactly that: "I'm not ready for a relationship," "I can't be a good girlfriend," or "I don't have time for a boyfriend right now." Two or three weeks later: they're dating some other guy — usually the guy is a total loser, and unattractive, and just a beta loser. So, when you get that it probably means they're not re…
/r/seduction31/12/13 04:04 AM
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Yes, she can date around, they're not exclusive, but she brought it up, which was kind of foolish and put OP down. She's playing the game to see if she can get someone she likes more and left OP on the back burner.
/r/seduction31/12/13 12:39 AM
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just want to see if I can undo that mistake Its seems like she knows you well enough to know whether she wants to go out with you (girls know within the first five minutes of meeting you if they would date you), I think she is turning you down gently. Sorry dude. Take this as a learning experience though. Why would you want to date someone whom is not positive about their feeling for you. Next time focus on making a better first impression, and demonstrating your value during the first date. The…
/r/seduction31/12/13 12:34 AM
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She's putting you on the back burner, sorry dude. I gave some good responses about how I thought it was cute she needed my permission, and tried to keep playing the alpha That was actually very beta. You should have said something along the lines of: "well, make up your mind fast"
/r/seduction30/12/13 11:55 PM
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EVERYTHING! If I would have found this forum when I was in high school, my life would have been so much different (in a good way) right now!
/r/seduction30/12/13 11:23 PM
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I can sorta vouch for that, but i'm not sure if it was really because of who I was in high school, or who I became now. Nonetheless, she came around...
/r/seduction30/12/13 11:21 PM
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At this point even if she rejects you she'll be thinking about you alot and likely will try to contact you again a week, month or even year later. Have they really ever gotten in contact with you after that?
/r/seduction30/12/13 11:17 PM
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Gotcha, can anyone else confirm this?
/r/seduction28/12/13 03:27 AM
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This film really hit it hard that you are the people that surround you. After I started self-improvement, I quickly realized that some of my closest friends were the epitome of scum. They had the right idea about living the YOLO lifestyle, but they did stupid shit, and they didn't push me for innovation. I still talk to them from time to time, but I found out that I was better off without them.
/r/seduction28/12/13 02:26 AM
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What's the best way to approach girls at the mall? what about girls that work at a store in the mall?
/r/seduction27/12/13 09:06 PM
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Can you get arrested for having car sex?
/r/seduction24/12/13 06:21 AM
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You're discussing her book. This is crucial, it's not about her. She lowers her guard. As the conversation continues your diction and tone should continue to express your interest in the book. Isn't this a semi-approach? I've had success with semi-approaches (I've actually never done a full approach, yet), but isn't a full-approach better (i.e., telling her she's cute, and wanted to know more about her)? it comes off as more confident. Also curious, how can you show interest in a girl at a bar o…
/r/seduction22/12/13 09:15 PM
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tl;dw: Face * can't do much to change it after puberty... * it's the first thing a women notices * Masculine face has a strong, squarish chin * Facial symmetry * the golden ratio body * Big: arms, pecs, and shoulders walk * sways arms and shoulders as you walk voice * Low tone voice * speak slowly selection * people end up with those that are within 1 point of their attractiveness status * they just want the winner in life, but they don't care how he got there * money * worth more than looks, at…
/r/seduction22/12/13 08:07 AM
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Can you explain what your approaches were like?
/r/seduction20/12/13 08:33 AM
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From the sounds of it, you have a case of the oneities. My best advice is to ask her out. No offense, but she will probably reject you because to me it sounds like you're too invested in her and have thought about her a ton. Your body language and emotions are going to betray you and make you come off a bit overbearing, so she might let you down gently. If she does turn you down, at least you can move on and forget about her, and not be phased by her presence. If you do go out, SHWING!
/r/seduction20/12/13 08:02 AM
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I was in a similar predicament not too long ago. I honestly didn't think the girl was super attractive to risk my friendship with, so I just treated her like a friend while demonstrating that I was a 'straight-up alpha.' She ended up hitting on me and just randomly started to make-out with me after about 2-3 weeks. Shwing! I think it worked because I was super indifferent about her, flaked a ton of time when she asked me to hang, and I didn't text her more than 5-6 times a day. Most of her other…
/r/seduction20/12/13 07:57 AM
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A combination of both
/r/seduction20/12/13 07:39 AM
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I had something similar like that happen to me not too long ago however, I didn't send the "you could have just said no, you don't have to get your dad to call" message, and she texted me later that day apologizing for her dad. I think her parents are too overprotective dude.
/r/seduction19/12/13 03:01 AM
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Note that these should NEVER be done on someone that's not fully attracted to you or completely into you because its a very strong action. If you guys just went on day 2/3 and still iffy, use at your own risk, but if done correctly at the right times, itll drive you both crazy. Explain
/r/seduction19/12/13 02:56 AM
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In my opinion, she was clearly into you, but she did not want to cheat. I think that the fact she brought up she had a boyfriend a few times makes it a vestige that she would not cheat on him and just wanted the attention. Is it bad for them to be too aware you are gaming them? Yes, usually that's your cue to walk out, they don't take kindly to that. She said, "I bet you have a girl on every interview. You use your tricks, your techniques, your eyebrows" {i am very expressive ;) lol ). and while…
/r/seduction16/12/13 12:46 AM
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No offense, but you might have a 'douche bag' demeanor. One of my friends that is confident and super non-needy, and just really doesn't give a shit about getting laid or being popular gets girls come up to him and flirt with him, or try to get with him, yet he sometimes he just ignore them or gives them a fake smile with a 'hi', and for some reason they get the girl's panties in a bunch and makes them want the guy more. He might have a conversation with them, but he sounds really fake/sales-man…
/r/seduction15/12/13 04:35 AM
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I think it can be safe to assume that a guy's height to a girl is about as important as their height is to us. I personally like girls that are 5'7-5'9, but if I see a girl that has a nice body and is 5'4, for example, I could not care less about her height. I think it's more about looks and how you dress. But, I feel that probably a guy who is tall and good looking might have an advantage to a guy who is a little below average and very good looking.
/r/seduction15/12/13 04:24 AM
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Me - Well I was thinking about grabbing coffee with this cool girl I've just met. If she's up for it that is. (With kind of a cheeky smile) Her - laughs Sooo you mean like a date? I think she might have been into you or else she would not have even mentioned date, she might have done a self-rejection because you weren't specific and some girls don't like to be rejected at all.
/r/seduction13/12/13 02:25 AM
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you want to be interested, but not too interest. Talk less than they do, so that every word you say is worth more. Have a strong body language. Tease them a lot. And I usually think its best to do sort of a push pull technique. Appear really interested, than when she starts getting boring or time passes, cross your arms and take a step back.
/r/seduction12/12/13 09:59 PM
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Three minutes of story telling with a relative stranger is an eternity. The girl has no idea where it's going, how long it's going to go on for, if it's going to be worth listening to. What if it's a second date or you're just hanging out, but met before, I've had that happen before too. At this point I'm almost convinced that girls just like to talk about themselves. They'll ask me questions or start talking about stuff about their lives, and kind of expect me to relate to what they said, but f…
/r/seduction12/12/13 05:37 AM
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When your audience loses interest you need to adjust to something more interesting to your listener. Do you mean like something related to them?
/r/seduction12/12/13 05:31 AM
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. You're already off to a bad start. It seems to me like you have her on the pedestal, if you're going to go in with that attitude, your better off canceling that date and sparing your feelings. FWIW, She is very beautiful (or in redditors term 9/10) and I am an average joe (dark, skinny guy) with a strong accent. Objectively speaking, is she really a 9? Don't ever put yourself down! "Can I interest you in cup of coffee sometimes?" ,"No, would be perfectly fine too :) " She k…
/r/seduction11/12/13 04:58 AM
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me: "I like you. Ok, maybe I just want to buy you breakfast" her: "I love breakfast. I smelled pancakes in my building I was very jealous" we agreed to hangout out and she liked me explicit intent. She didn't go cold until I messed it up with this horrible text. That was your problem, you said you liked her. Don't ever do that, especially when they don't ask you. Girls like a challenge, if you tell her you like her, she'll feel wanted and go out with you out of appreciation, but then when you ac…
/r/seduction10/12/13 02:35 AM
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I personally like, "wait," Then i give her 'the look' and go in 90% or I say: "close your eyes"
/r/seduction08/12/13 04:37 AM
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Do you leave a voicemail or text if they don't answer?
/r/seduction08/12/13 02:15 AM
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It actually does. After my first time, my girlfriend (of like 2 1/2 months) was genuinely satisfied. However, on our next date, I told her that she was my first, and immediately lost interest right after I said that. She patronized me and retorted, "Oh, I hope I didn't pressure you into..." I cut her off mid sentence, and said, "Believe me, there was no pressure, in fact, you can pressure me right now." I went in for a kiss, but she pulled back right after 30 seconds or so, and dumped me the nex…
/r/seduction07/12/13 10:50 PM
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Gotcha, sarge. That is actually true.
/r/seduction07/12/13 12:00 AM
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I assumed the lawyer and model were higher value?
/r/seduction06/12/13 11:49 PM
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How old are you? How did you smash your insecurities? Did you just stop caring about them or what? How do you dress? What if a girl doesn't have an insecurity? Can you give me an example of you playing on a girl's insecurity? I'm curious. Specifically the lawyer and model. Good luck with your recovery!
/r/seduction06/12/13 11:38 PM
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Ideally you should have, but its not going to make or break you. As a matter of fact it demonstrate your value, and she might question whether you are interested in her.
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:27 PM
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you haven't built comfort, which you must do before you build attraction — you might be comming off a bit overbearing/aggressive or you're trying to get her attention, so you ignore it and pretend its not happening. Just be positive and have a cool demeanor, and she'll start mirroring what you do.
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:10 PM
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Gotcha sarge, I didn't know much about dating/seduction before this (no wonder my relationships did not last more than a month before this). However, I did not know dating with girls you actually like and would be proud to introduce to your family moved that fast too. After I got into this, I F-closed girls that I thought were attractive, but just didn't click with, and then I never talked to them again.
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:59 PM
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In my case, four girlfriends that I had before I got into seduction hit on me, and I treated them like friends when they talked to me and apparently that made them want me more until eventually they just jumped on me or asked me out on dates. I had no game whatsoever, one time I had a friend ask a girl out for me because he had more charisma than I, sadly she rejected. And, as I identified, because I had no game, the relationships did not last more than 2 months. I agree with you, I don't know h…
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:39 AM
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I like sending a witty text, calling is too needy especially if you just met her.
/r/seduction05/12/13 04:57 AM
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Hmm, I'm 19, and I'm a bit taken aback right not. Most of the girls I've dated have been prudish and said they have wanted to wait at least 2-3 months.
/r/seduction04/12/13 10:50 PM
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Usually with girlfriends I've waited 3 months to sleep with them. I thought it helped build feelings and make it better, and the girl would be more comfortable.
/r/seduction04/12/13 07:12 PM
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What if you're trying to get a girlfriend?
/r/seduction04/12/13 06:52 PM
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Maybe you didn't demonstrate value or something that would make her want to stay around you.
/r/seduction04/12/13 06:51 PM
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but I came out with an AFC-like response by giving him the full run down of how I #-closed her and that we're just Innocent smoking, there's nothing going on here. (I feel like I should've said, yeah, I find your gf attractive but had I know she had a bf, I would've never asked for her number" but didn't) Don't ever explain yourself to a guy that you don't even know, especially if he is going apeshit. I would have just put on an arrogant/ 'you fucked up son' face, and not said a word to him. The…
/r/seduction04/12/13 05:24 AM
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I've pushed to hangout with her but it's not happening. Is She waiting to see if a meeting is worth it? What exactly has she said? And, if she doesn't know if she's attracted to you, she probably isn't. You are probably coming off as too overbearing and need to cool it down a bit, and use push-pull techniques.
/r/seduction04/12/13 05:03 AM
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That's what I would like to know. Whenever I'm trying to get over oneitis after getting dumped, my game is really tight. I can literally just go up to a girl with a simple 'hi' or ask them for a recommendation (even when i'm just trying to hook up with them, at all), and they become interested in me and ask for my number. I've actually had girls jump on my and just start making out with me. What I do now, before I do approaches, I tell myself that I like another girl (I think of a specific one),…
/r/seduction04/12/13 03:56 AM
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One day I decided to try to listen to one of his stories and try to figure out what he was talking about that was so interesting. I figured it out – nothing. He literally told a 20 minute story about how he was mad that his mother put carrot slices in the stuffing she made for Thanksgiving. How does your friend introduce his stories without them being awkward?
/r/seduction03/12/13 11:49 PM
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You don't want to seem to submissive and agreeing to everything just to get laid And, if anything she should send you pics, try: *Send me a picture of your tits *;) *wow, you're bossy, I don't like bossy girls
/r/seduction03/12/13 06:17 PM
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Don't mean to sound like a douche, but it sounds like you're overly available to her when she sees you. If you guys do end up hooking up it seems liked you'd probably caught her on a day she went through an emotional roller-coaster or something. Anyways good luck on that endeavor.
/r/seduction03/12/13 06:13 AM
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Sadly most sacks of shit don't learn from their first rejection and they make the same mistake again, there has to have been some improvement between the gap for her to change her mind.
/r/seduction03/12/13 06:10 AM
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True, I guess you have to ask yourself first if it will hurt you if she rejects you again before you actually make a move.
/r/seduction03/12/13 06:05 AM
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This is perhaps the best answer here.
/r/seduction03/12/13 03:43 AM
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Oh dear, the flowers might be a bit overbearing,but yeah, be nice to girl.
/r/seduction03/12/13 03:39 AM
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As funny as it sounds seddit changed my life. Because of Seddit, I got the idea of dividing my life into areas — gym, school, PUA, work, hobbies, friends and family, etcetera. I worked on all areas and I am now super confident, and the most happy I have ever been. I get my happiness from my hobbies, not from people like I used to before, and friends have noticed that and they want to hang out with me more. I also started dressing better, but because I feel I am worth the money and looking good. …
/r/seduction03/12/13 03:36 AM
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Move fast within reason. Always be escalating. Don't put off kissing or sex until "next time" if it can happen now, because there may never be a next time. Show interest early on and polarize her. So true, before I got into this, I would put kissing off until the 3rd date, but now I've been able to get a k-close and more on the first date. It's only a big deal if you make a big deal about it.
/r/seduction03/12/13 02:13 AM
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Wait, is the true? girls have given me shit for moving too fast before? But then again, I wasn't having deep conversations with them, or stuff of that sort.
/r/seduction02/12/13 11:04 PM
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That's terrible advice. You're framing her like a slut, and she'll be offended.
/r/seduction02/12/13 05:38 AM
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The minute you saw her facebook profile and thought about how to get her, you lost and it's an uphill battle now. Best option now is to go out and meet chicks.
/r/seduction02/12/13 05:36 AM
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Why did you guys down vote, this is actually right
/r/seduction02/12/13 05:27 AM
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Nothing affects a man’s ego like getting rejecting by a woman and a lot of oneitis and “love” is just the ego not being able to accept that somebody said YOU are not good enough. Is it weird that rejection actually makes me more confident, and just makes me want to improve?
/r/seduction01/12/13 07:01 AM
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bro, don't waste your time on a girl like that. Never respond to her, and never look back.
/r/seduction30/11/13 05:45 AM
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How do you rebuild attraction?
/r/seduction27/11/13 11:57 PM
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As long as you know what you're doing and they are enjoying themselves around you, it doesn't matter.
/r/seduction24/11/13 02:45 AM
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Inhale air into your stomach, and breathe out slowly, and have strong confident body language. That usually helps you become aware of your surroundings.
/r/seduction24/11/13 12:28 AM
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Have good posture, head held high, and talk in a slow, low toned voice.
/r/seduction24/11/13 12:24 AM
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how much do guys looks matter, in your opinion
/r/seduction20/11/13 03:30 PM
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I feel sorry for that poor bastard — long distance relationships don't work if there isn't enough sexual tension. Don't do anything with her until she dumps her boyfriend first. It sucks for the other guy, but that's life...
/r/seduction20/11/13 12:32 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) But, in all seriousness, how old is she, I'm curious. And, just game her like you would game any girl. Make your intentions clear from the start! Tease her, and maybe trow in a neg is her bitch shield is on.
/r/seduction17/11/13 06:02 AM
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Sarge friends have said I have an overbearing, aggressive demeanor because I take up space and am very interested. now: going to work on seeming less interested when they say boring stuff, and giving a more chill vibe with my body language. its better to be interested than interesting, but in order for girls to actually be interesting, you have to kind of push-pull by losing interest when the conversation is getting boring or they are being boring. also, thanks a bunch, dude!
/r/seduction16/11/13 10:58 PM
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So, what I found out works best is saying something along the lines of, "Hey buddy, I'm thinking about going on a downtown adventure tomorrow night. you're welcome over too when work is over." Works like a charm most of the times. Can I get your two cents on that, /u/Happyjerk?
/r/seduction16/11/13 04:54 PM
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TIPS This is a bit harsh, but I want you guys to succeed with women. NEVER start a facebook chat with a girl you have never had a conversation (or only talked to once, and it didn't go too good) asking her to meet up somewhere. Thats creepy, and of course she is going to turn you down! Either send a 'Hey,' but know that she will only respond if she is interested in you, and you have a low chance of actually getting a response if you just barely know each other. OR, send her a custom message with…
/r/seduction15/11/13 10:36 PM
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This guy knows whats up!
/r/seduction15/11/13 09:37 PM
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Worst case scenario I've had, the father takes the girl and tell me to leave. And, I've been very, very cocky/sexual with my approaches.
/r/seduction15/11/13 03:32 AM
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This guy is right!
/r/seduction11/11/13 04:19 AM
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it is, lol!
/r/seduction09/11/13 05:07 AM
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At the end of your next date, say: "I want you to be me girlfriend," and then you go in for a kiss. BOOM! Edit: How do you transition to that? you can give her a complement and then say it.
/r/seduction08/11/13 12:51 AM
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She was really nice, but shot me down, real hard.
/r/seduction24/10/13 01:57 AM
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pm me.
/r/seduction19/10/13 05:12 PM
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What about texting a girl if you can call her then?
/r/seduction12/10/13 03:40 AM
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I think you might need a hobby and time with friends, for some reason that helps with girls.
/r/seduction12/10/13 03:32 AM
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do more approaches, when I was a noob my heart would race and I would always randomly blurt stuff out and randomly freeze. The more approaches you make, the better.
/r/seduction09/10/13 10:51 PM
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If she broke your heart, WHY...JUST WHY would you go out of your way to act different than who you are? People are dynamic, I'm sure you're not the same person you were two years ago. So, be yourself. And if she's being a little [can't say this word] to you, ignore her. Don't even acknowledge her.
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:42 AM
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Would you say that not paying could hinder attraction or a chance for a relationship? I'm curious.
/r/seduction06/10/13 10:17 PM
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Girls are complicated, and you always have to say what is just right. Build comfort for a first date by talking and building rapport first. Usually, if you've built comfort and rapport, she won't flake. Ask her as casually as possibly something like "lets go to _______ on Thursday!" If she says no, you respond, "want to try for another day?" And depending on how they respond, you feel it out, and stop talking to her after immediately and say you have to go. You can then ask her like two days lat…
/r/seduction06/10/13 04:02 PM
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hmm, at this point I think that it is probably best for you to drop it or you might get hurt (you seemed too attached), its already at a bad start. The only way you can recover from this is if she is really interested in you or you are more attractive then her. You should have played it off jokingly at the party, and said "But of course!" and pretended to be cool. You can win her, but I do not recommend, I've been there before, and its attributed a bunch of heartaches and pains. Forget about her…
/r/seduction06/10/13 03:34 PM
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Don't say you were drunk, its foolish and she'll never look at you the same way again. I've had girls in their panties tell me its not going to happen tonight, and guess what happened that night? I think she didn't want to be seen as a slut. You should have done a bit more kino in the apartment and then gone in for a kiss, if she said no, you could've said, "I wanted to see if there was a spark." (With a smile of course.) And yes, girls usually reject you nicely, especially if they're your frien…
/r/seduction06/10/13 03:23 PM
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Ignoring it wasn't bad, but you should have responded something in a jokingly manner. Remember its not what you say, its how you say it. Maybe you could have retorted, "well you're the one who is seducing me and physically abusing me, no one abuses me on the first date and gets away with it..." If you would have said that with a smile, you would have made her feel more conformable and set a frame that she is chasing you.
/r/seduction06/10/13 04:22 AM
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slutty cheetah ;)
/r/seduction05/10/13 05:36 AM
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Did you escalate correctly, mang?
/r/seduction05/10/13 05:35 AM
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Surprisingly, heartaches and pains do make you more independent and good around other girls.
/r/seduction02/10/13 01:36 PM
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How did you demonstrate higher value in the approach, I'm curious cause I struggle with that sometimes.
/r/seduction01/10/13 03:31 AM
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Why would you want to sext on snapchat? The videos/pics only last 10 seconds, I don't think I can finish that quick.
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:34 AM
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Don't randomly add a girl on Facebook, if you must add her, ask her in person if its fine if you add her. Don't shoot for a girl's facebook, ask her for her number in person. In this case, the best procedure would be to send a simple, "hey," or "It was nice meeting you the other day! :)," if she's interested she'll respond, if she doesn't, she wasn't interested enough and there is not much you can do at this point via facebook. build rapport - I usually ask them questions about their major, why …
/r/seduction30/09/13 02:32 AM
1

Thanks a bunch, mang! This is golden.
/r/seduction30/09/13 12:57 AM
1

Wait, does framing her as not being your type build attraction? I thought most girls do an 'auto rejection' and lose interest in you if she figures that the both of you aren't compatible or you're not interested. Explain.
/r/seduction29/09/13 04:35 PM
6

Girls like being approached by confident, funny men!
/r/seduction29/09/13 06:51 AM
1

Money doesn't matter, AT ALL! A friend of mine is well-off: his family lives in a mansion, and he attended a private boarding school that has the tuition price of Harvard, etc. However, he doesn't have a smart phone (he uses one of the old flip phones), he is usually dressed in under $50 (he wears shirts he's gotten from camps or school, or flannels he's boughten from Goodwill), he doesn't have a credit card, and drive an old car. Yet, people usually identify his status by the way he talks and e…
/r/seduction28/09/13 04:36 PM
1

Can I get confirmation on this?
/r/seduction28/09/13 03:22 PM
1

I like #2
/r/seduction28/09/13 02:56 PM
1

she's probably still not over him...
/r/seduction28/09/13 02:50 PM
2

They are strangers to me. What helps I think is that I usually nod my head after I say Hi, for some reason they'll usually ask me if I go to school there.
/r/seduction28/09/13 02:41 PM
1

Nervous that she did not want to talk to me or nervous that she probably likes me and thought I was out of her league?
/r/seduction27/09/13 10:40 PM
1

uh, last night, a girl looked at my pants and retorted, "WHAT IS THAT!" She seemed very surprised and it made me feel awkward. How would you respond to that?
/r/seduction26/09/13 07:03 AM
2

What usually happens is if the girl seems unresponsive, I'll do an auto rejection, so technically I don't get rejected, but its still a rejection. I.E., Very rarely does it happen, most girls are really nice when you talk to them, but because I'm an 'expert' on body language, and I look at the ioi's and if she keeping conversation, I can tell if should leave. Leaving sometimes draws them back to you; girls like men they can't have, so that in itself builds attraction. ALSO, this has helped me a …
/r/seduction26/09/13 05:23 AM
2

Not to sound cocky, but it does give you an ego boost, even if you don't like the girl. A bunch of girls tell me and my friends that I'm cute and handsome. But, I don't consider myself super handsome; moreover, I think I'm average looking. I'm 5'9, lean and white. I usually don't wear nice clothes either - levi's or guess jeans, or prep shorts with basic tees or tee shirts which I've gotten from school or a camp. However, girls have complemented me on my cologne, and I am super hygienic.
/r/seduction26/09/13 02:46 AM
1

No, mang. It just doesn't happen. I went down that road many time before I got to were I am today. Just forget about her, you'll be fine man!
/r/seduction25/09/13 08:55 PM
4

Same exact story, they'll jump in my face and make out with me or ask if I want to kiss them.
/r/seduction25/09/13 06:14 PM
0

This is gold, I am almost tempted to down vote this because its so good!
/r/seduction25/09/13 04:05 AM
3

It'll be fine man, just dont worry about it. Maybe she was busy and didn't see your message. it seems weird that she would ignore you like that. However, if you both go to the same hs, you should have talked to her in person...
/r/seduction19/09/13 03:00 AM
2

Hmm, for some reason rejections makes me more confident. I've learned to not get attached to women, at all, and not give them the opportunity to reject me. The less you care about rejection or women, the easier things work themselves out. Good luck!
/r/seduction18/09/13 10:16 PM
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bump
/r/seduction18/09/13 12:32 AM
2

My brotien, that was one of those shits. You screwed up, and the fact that you hadn't built comfort didn't help. You should have had small talk with her before asking her out.
/r/seduction17/09/13 05:33 AM
1

yeah, her dad chased me out... Oh! - It wasn't pretty.
/r/seduction17/09/13 02:07 AM
1

Tell me how your new approach goes, I'm curious. Good luck, dude!
/r/seduction17/09/13 02:01 AM
1

hmm, i'm confused, everything was fine, but then again women are heartless. For the love of God, do not go to her house, I made that mistake once, and boy did it blow up in my face. give it a week, if she doesn't contact you, send her a text saying that you want to know what's wrong and if she doesn't respond by the end of the day just say, "Ok, I think what we had is over... I don't think our emotions are in sync and you do not want to talk to me."
/r/seduction17/09/13 01:59 AM
3

give her space, and she will either come to you or its officially over cause she's not interested. Don't get oneitis
/r/seduction17/09/13 12:46 AM
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I'm going to be the devil's advocate and say that persistence NEVER works. She only misses you because girls like guys they can't have, its the law of attraction. Ignore girls, it demonstrates your value, and treat them like dogs (everyone's gonna down vote me for though its true), and they will want you more. If you would have persisted, she probably would not have cared for you, at all.
/r/seduction16/09/13 05:48 PM
0

If you are looking for a relationship, try to kiss her on the third date.
/r/seduction15/09/13 09:30 PM
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