RP self-improvement vs AWALT

GayLubeOil · 2014-12-20T11:00:20+00:00

When you look for a good woman you have to look for potential. Then you level up her booty and cooking skills.

NightwingTRP · 2014-12-20T10:37:19+00:00

It does no such thing. AWALT is not completely literal, it's simply an assumption because it's usually a safe bet. This has been clarified a million times over.

Actually, it is. AWALT is a reference to the innate biological and evolutionary psychological traits that all women will experience. The vast majority will display these openly, hence the call of AWALT from men providing examples of things like a woman upgrading or cheating on a man, or throwing a temper tantrum when she doesn't get her way, or shit testing a guy. The difference that the potential unicorn woman shows is that she is aware of the negative aspects of her pre-programming and works to try and be a better woman. Think back to the example of the woman who went onto twoX who'd awaked to how she'd been mistreating her man for years when she threw a massive tantrum over a minor difference in hamburger meat. It's the modern society which has allowed these base urges to become unrestrained and go nuts. 99% of modern women have very poor impulse control and even less control over their emotions. This is actually what allows Red Pill behaviour to spin plates so easily on our own terms. It also explains the slow destruction of the family unit because all these things lead into each other.

AWALT is truth. The difference is in the woman - how she handles it.

RPstudent · 2014-12-20T19:43:33+00:00

so much category error here.

How we value women is not based on the quality of their personhood. It is in the pleasure they provide us. Is she good to look at, fun to fuck and sweet enough that I can excuse her laziness, lack of agency and accountability/integrity amnesia. She does not drive us to greatness, she is the comfort we enjoy when we accomplish our goals and attain greatness. We are driven by our own ambition, not the desire for a piece of ass.

IN short, if you are seeking motivation or drive from bitches, you're doing it wrong

LambdaMale · 2014-12-20T08:17:02+00:00

I’m not complaining. That’s just the way things are. Deviations from this are rare, but still, a TRP maxim is that “all women are like that." “AWALT" suggests that there are no exceptions.

Strictly speaking, AWALT is not true. Simple proof: Butch lesbians will behave very differently from "AWALT" expected behavior; traumatic events can change your behavior (real rape victims, PTSD). Life experiences change a person, that includes women. But to find one that is different in the right way (having drive to achieve something on her own, but still being loyal) and good looking is about as likely as finding a horse with a birth defect that has a calcareous growth on its nose. And even then, don't expect it to shit rainbows.

Finally, your conclusion is faulty.

He wouldn’t put up with a man that’s irrational, lazy, and passive in his life. Yet he includes a woman with the same qualities. Isn’t that a contradiction?

You need good men in your life to challenge you, to motivate you. You don't need your woman to fulfill the same function. She does not have to adhere to the same standards, because you want her for something else.

tepper2 · 2014-12-20T07:53:41+00:00

“AWALT" suggests that there are no exceptions.

It does no such thing. AWALT is not completely literal, it's simply an assumption because it's usually a safe bet. This has been clarified a million times over.

A higher quality male has a bigger pool to choose from, thus increasing chances of finding a higher quality woman.

AWALT and the self improvement philosophy of TRP have little to do with each other, IMO. It's my job as a human male to fuck whoever, wherever, whenever in the interest of creating offspring.

R4F1 · 2014-12-20T14:38:55+00:00

Since TRP looks at sexual dynamics from the perspective of evolutionary psychology, broad generalizations such as "AWALT" are necessary. We're essentially saying that as much as individuals are different they're basically the same biologically. This is true for men and women, but because we assume men are more rational and women are more emotional, women are much more predictable in their actions since they follow their textbook extincts.

That being said, there is no contradiction. Since there's no requirement that says we need to have a woman or anyone else for that matter, in our lives. There are plenty of people who are without women, most MGTOW for example. Maybe you should look into that.

smokingmonkey420 · 2014-12-20T15:47:07+00:00

Sluts can give excellent sex. So there's that.

AesonClark · 2014-12-20T08:17:53+00:00

AWALT indicates that the nature of the woman is to be this way. There are women who choose to live in a manner inconsistent with those natural forces upon them, but in essence it is still true.

Rules also have exceptions. One could say that all humans are sexual beings and that sex plays an important role in humanity (read: "AhumansALT") despite that there are a few who are not in the least bit interested in sex for entertainment nor procreation. No rule of human behavior should be taken as law, but rather as a rule.

In general your description is how women are culturally programmed, but anyone is permitted to reprogram themselves in the same way that we have been programmed to be BP and are reprogramming one another as RP. It's not about the water you have been led to it is about the source from which you drink. Such as it is for both men and women.

RedHeimdall · 2014-12-20T09:19:08+00:00

There are no exceptions, since AWALT.

In general all women tend to be hypergamous, solipsistic, etc. but there is variation in terms of the degree of inclination and the degree of expression, due to individual differences in nature and nurture.

A RP man... wouldn’t put up with a man that’s irrational, lazy, and passive in his life. Yet he includes a woman with the same qualities. Isn’t that a contradiction?

No because males and females are not the same. A woman is more evolutionarily inclined toward irrationality and passivity, so it's not appropriate to hold her to the same standard as a man.

Furthermore we do not seek the same things from a man that we seek from a woman. From a guy we want things like objectivity, camaraderie, and good-natured competition, whereas from a girl we want primarily sex, affection, and a pleasant distraction from the hard work of living our lives.

thewestcoastexpress · 2014-12-20T18:12:38+00:00

I got a plate that ticks off every box on the typical RP "16 things to look for in a woman" list. She has a couple major goals she wants to accomplish, but fuck does she chase them so fucking lazily.

I don't beleive AWALT, but I have never met a woman who want something and are willing to tirelessly bust their asses in pursuit of it.

kevkos · 2014-12-20T07:59:01+00:00

This is a most excellent post. Agree 100% about this contradiction. It's not just society that created these bad qualities in women, but bad parenting giving girls low self esteem.

And I do not believe in AWALT.

Title	RP self-improvement vs AWALT
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