CMV: The only "brainwashing" men did was to themselves.

alreadyredschool · 2016-10-07T13:07:38+00:00

Women here on PPD engage in the brainwashing on the regular..

On PPD, women like virginal, nerdy men. On PPD, women dislike an integral part of flirting TRP refers to as "negging". On PPD women dont care too much about a guy's job. On PPD many women are in loving LTRs with men who make less money than them.

It's almost like the women here are from an alternate reality.

alreadyredschool · 2016-10-07T11:44:12+00:00

Look at this post It's what men want. But why don't they do everything to get what they want?

Players are shamed. Gym bros are shamed. Bad boys are shamed. Cheaters are shamed. A young man hearing that will eventually say to himself "I won't be like these guys!"

Here dakru makes a great point about the topic in general: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2hdiud/does_the_characterization_of/ckrobbq?context=3

Here Invalidity's comment

Now again look at this post

This picture expresses a sentiment many men share, it's about the male power fantasy of being wanted, an object of lust. Something stops these men from doing what is necessary to get that sweet validation. Have you read those threads on askreddit or askmen about compliments? It's pathetic, they lust after those moments. (~~humble~~ brag warning) Yesterday, literally 15 hours ago a blond girl sucked on my beer, gave it a blowjob and held eye contact. Later her friend "picked" me up, free taxi ride home and one pretty angry girl (No cheater) after I just went home instead of going up into her apartment. That pizza girl is a common occurrence for me. Now riddle me this, why do so little men lift? Why do they not care about fashion? Why don't they do everything to get what they wish for? Why do gay people know exactly what gay men like but straight men don't? Gays are not magically more likely to enjoy lifting, something out there is stopping men. Maybe it's the concept of inner beauty, maybe it's the concept of true love, maybe it's sperm wars (forbidding men to get advantages in the SMP - make up, operations, lifting). Something is holding men back, either gay people are magically excluded from this self brainwashing thing or this something doesn't brainwash gay men because it only tells lies about women. And I am pretty sure that it's at least 50% male gender roles.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/568vy1/why_didnt_someone_tell_us_women_that_men_are_like/d8hz23h?context=3

Here I give you that, self brainwash thingy is solipsism, but that's not the sole cause.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-10-07T13:51:02+00:00

It's in front of your eyes everywhere; hot, interesting, fun, established, confident, cocky, fearless and even humorous guys are attractive.

Even still to this day the main thing you can find people saying is to land women you need a quality job and money

nomdplume · 2016-10-07T13:59:55+00:00

if women are paid less it's their fault

abuse victims had it coming. They should have just left

rape victims should't hang around rapists

I can go on.

Of course these guys are around. The problem is that from the time guys are in kindergarten they are taught that these guys aren't truly desired by women. Men are taught to be nice guys in-order to win female affection. Our mother drill it in to us. School drills it in to us. Women tell us it's what they want.

The thing is if a guy is 30 and doesn't realize it then it's his fault, but most men don't start realizing this until their 20s. By then it is part of their personality. It's conditioned into them at that point. By that point they've also wasted a lot of their learning years using BP BS.

Christian_Kong · 2016-10-07T16:11:33+00:00

This has been discussed a million times. Regular guys everywhere, myself included usually have this experience in life: meet/befriend girl(s) who at some point becomes single, make an effort at dating/relationship/etc, girl says "you are a great guy(etc,etc), but I see you as a friend(etc,etc)." You stay friends with these people in some capacity, anywhere from acquaintance, beta orbiter or genuine good friend. You see the next 20 dudes they bang are shitbags, assholes, emotionally abusive, cheaters, guys who have (short term)"dated" 15 other girls that she knows but still goes after these guys. She always complains about them and says she wishes she could find a guy that has quality x,y and z........qualities that good dudes have, qualities that younger me had.

Its felt logical to me for a long time to say:

A)Females are constantly complaining about shitty dudes, and wish they could find a guy with x,y and z(things I already was)

B) I'm not naturally a shitty dude towards anyone (I don't think a lot of men are.)

This kind of aligns with your CMV, but look at nearly every other thing in life. Do you watch an electrician/mechanic/etc then run off to your house/car/etc to work on your wiring/engine/etc, or do you talk to the person and get the "how to" on how to fix the problem. At some point, well past when I should of, it was looking at what women do and not what they say. It was in front of my eyes everywhere.

So at some point I was at a crossroads. In short; was being true to my nature of being a good dude worth more than pussy? It was not. Now, I'm the asshole that the girls complain to their genuine good dude friends/acquaintances/etc out there. It's a circle of misery and rebirth. I get options from plenty of women, more than I want or could have imagined, all built on a foundation of not listening to commonly given everyday advice given to guys.

And those girls who rejected the good dude that I was often come back around years later as their good partner options in life close at an astronomical rate. I usually don't respond. Anyways, the guy who has qualities x, y and z that they may actually want at this point in their life isn't here anymore, and I get a good chuckle at the whole situation. The circle of misery spins on.

DynamicLoser · 2016-10-07T14:04:35+00:00

It's in front of your eyes everywhere; hot, interesting, fun, established, confident, cocky, fearless and even humorous guys are attractive.

All you need to take from that is ''hot''. The rest doesn't matter, it doesn't make him sexually attractive if he's not hot to begin with. So be a chad or be foreve alone and wait for a girl to age for her to look at you as the beta bux.

These men choose to see this and are won't admit that this was there problem, not some media "blue pill brainwashing"

I think guys are aware that they can't get laid because they lack chad looks.

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[deleted] · 2016-10-07T15:49:07+00:00

Yup.

Except when they were kids, their single moms had a huge advantage there against todlers. Luckly, they never turned into their asshole father... that one who gave mom enough tingles to have a kid.

Title	CMV: The only "brainwashing" men did was to themselves.
Author	SipsSparklingWater
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Comments	72
Date	October 7, 2016 11:19 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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