What do redpillers think of Islam?

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-01-10T23:32:34+00:00

There's two types of patriarchal cultures in this world. The first is about harnessing the productive power of the beta male, thereby creating rapid scientific, economic and industrial progress. The second is about whipping them into a conquering frenzy so they can destroy things.

Islam leans heavily in the 2nd direction. Do they ever pause to think about the obvious superiority of western culture, rule of law, science, freedom of expression, freedom of religion, etc, and all the great works descended thereof? No. They're too busy being a pissed off horde of degenerates.

Therefore, they descend on the west like a swarm of locusts, raping, pillaging, shooting up theaters, flying airplanes into shit, and just generally being a cancer. That's why I don't like them.

Meanwhile, BPers, who lay so far left along the spectrum that everything right of center looks identical to them, are always cracking wise about how TRP and Islam are the same thing. Meanwhile conveniently ignoring the fact that their own diversity encouraging, "tolerant", multiculturalism spreading ways are what enable these modern day vandals to vandal it up in our territory. You demand we welcome them in as buddies, then somehow turn around and blame rightists for their inevitable barbarian antics? Cause, something something "racism." Ok bro, you have fun with that.

cxj · 2016-01-10T23:51:07+00:00

A horde of savages, laying waste to the west.

detsnam · 2016-01-11T00:43:43+00:00

The way in which the vast majority of Muslims in western countries practice their religion is hardly different than the way Christians do. They should have religious freedom just like Christians do and if they can keep it in their families and private lives, more power to them. Just don't let religion influence state policy and don't come knocking on my door to evangelize (same rules for Christians or any other religion).

Islamic extremism on the other hand, like any form of extremism (TRP extremists included) begets biases, thoughts, speech, and actions that run counter to harmonious existence in a society that doesn't subscribe to the same extreme ideology.

For all intents and purposes, Islam is no different than any other ideology. But western media and mass hysteria exaggerate fears about Islam and conflate extreme practices with the ideology as a whole. This is dumb and also counterproductive.

Here's an effective example of that hypocrisy.

TL;DR: western xenophobia and hysteria often project the thoughts of Islam's vocal minority onto all Muslims. This is dumb and obvious selection bias.

[deleted] · 2016-01-10T23:13:32+00:00

Islam comes up because it's a threat to the West and to Christendom, and serves as an object lesson of red pill ideas. For instance, it shows what happens when an aggressive, masculine culture interacts with a passive and feminized culture.

exit_sandman · 2016-01-11T00:14:16+00:00

Islam as a religion is conspiciously similar to pre-enlightenment Christianity.

Islam as a set of laws, and most cultures that adhere to it, are another matter. Personally I don't really like the idea that regardless of all lip-service to tolerance and peaceful coexistence, the majority of its believers apparently are still at odds with the concept of freedom of religions and the right of other religions to exist (the persistant desire to unite mankind under one belief, the nutty idea that everyone has to respect their tenets, and the violence in societies where Islam intermingles with practically every other religion are a testament to this).

For good measure, an index of where the most-persecuted religion in the world (Christianity) has most problems. Don't know why there is no English translation, but I guess one can easily figure out the respective countries. It says something when of the 50 places with the most severe instances of religion-based violence against Christians, 70% are Muslim-majority countries.

cxj · 2016-01-11T01:28:12+00:00

I don't care what anyone says, be it PC multicultural faggots or rabid TRP members, I despise Islam with every fiber of my being. I refuse to follow or in any way respect a leader who fucked a 9 year old. I refuse to believe Islam is a religion of peace when there are overwhelming amounts of quotes from the Quaran proving otherwise. I do not believe they are some kind of ally against Jewish conspiracies, which I also do not believe in. I believe Islam extremism is a genuine threat to the Western democratic way of life, as well as a threat to individual autonomy. I don't like white knighting, but I despise the way Muslim countries treat their women.

[deleted] · 2016-01-10T23:58:45+00:00

Islam is at least two religions. One of them is an apocalyptic cult worshiping death and hoping to kill literally everybody in the world. The other is not much different from the devout forms of Christianity, in terms of the most basic beliefs and devotion to customs.

No devout practitioner of a religion needs TRP because they are already confident in their beliefs, already have a social and cultural group, and already have social theories that they live by.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-01-11T00:48:51+00:00

The anglo scandinavian west has its own christian/roman patriarchal history and doesnt have to look the the alien middle eastern failure mascularchies for inspiration.

[deleted] · 2016-01-11T14:55:06+00:00

More proof than I ever needed that most TRPers need to get out and meet humans.

Holy hell, echochamber much?

Apexk9 · 2016-01-10T23:05:22+00:00

Same feelings as any relegion just a fucking cult with a pretty bow on top.

[deleted] · 2016-01-11T00:23:30+00:00

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OlBastard · 2016-01-11T03:26:58+00:00

Islam is the answer to toxic altruism. A nightmare for liberals.

While the smart thing to do for nations concerned with their residents' safety would be to close the borders from the refugees and take firm action against the leaks, that's not the case for the little European girls. And so they get to see their women raped, children beaten up, and stores robbed.

They'll be forced to change after even more bloodshed.

Allahu akbar.

MorpheusGodOfDreams · 2016-01-11T03:35:46+00:00

you cannot, I repeat, CANNOT understand Islam unless you understand Judaism. Islam considers itself the final version of Judaism, with Christianity in the middle (but according to Islam Christianity failed by making Jesus into god, which is why Mo did not want any images of himself).

The Old Testament is possibly the absolute most Red Pill book on the planet, but the New Testament is a literal guide to creating a beta society that the Romans used to their advantage with concepts like heaven and hell as a stick and carrot.

then comes Muhammad and turns the whole thing up to the extreme. No one in the world understood human psychology and how to motivate people in the way that Mo did, and it really shows.

Other people have commented here that it is a horde of people, and this is correct: Mo based his family planning on the Jewish Patriarch Jacob, who essentially had 4 wives and 12 sons. Since the oldest son gets his father's wealth and the girls are married off to high status guys, this leaves the other sons to make their names as soldiers.

The Muslim population basically doubles every 15 years, making it a built in army. it also has sharia law to dictate every waking moment of one's life, and has the most complete brainwashing system ever invented with very vivid and clear descriptions of the afterlife. This is unlike judaism, which is extremely ambiguous, and Christianity, which only has a few unclear details.

TRP recognizes how Islam treats women and how they abuse the feminist victim ideology to push identity politics. Because europe is unable to process this contradiction due to lingering sentiments from WWII, they are flinging the doors wide open to the invasion and the muslims happily accept.

TRP also understands that women inherently want to yield to a strong male (like almost literally every other sexual species on the planet), and therefore women crave the dominance they get from Muslim men. Muslims are also not PC at all, and they get a pass because they are not white, even though they are a much more rigidly defined Patriarchy (rule of fathers).

So TRP both fears and idolizes Muslims as the noble savages they are.

factsnotfeelings · 2016-01-11T00:10:20+00:00

Islam is a counterbalance to Jewish supremacy, which is why muslims are the enemies of the day. Islam forbids usury (charging interest on loans) and also forbids insurance policies. Both are scams that have historically been used by jews to wage economic warfare against us goyim.

The 'war on terror' is a farce. 9/11 was blatantly an inside job and even if the official story is true, domestic terror attacks would hardly justify invading foreign countries.

Ultimately I don't believe Islam is responsible for all the 'terror attacks' of the past 15 years, but I do think muslims should be deported from western countries, along with jews and blacks.

watereol · 2016-01-11T00:00:09+00:00

just a bunch of dudes raping and blowing themselves up.

[deleted] · 2016-01-11T03:44:32+00:00

Yes, it's a religion who's followers are stuck in the 1400's.. It's a plague on western society. They have made it very clear that they don't like western society, and plan to take it over.

Their kind should be purged out of the west before it's too late.

Title	What do redpillers think of Islam?
Author	littleprivateplaces
Upvotes	6
Comments	76
Date	January 10, 2016 11:04 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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