Why should "respect for women" and "fairness to women" matter in TRP? repost

madscientistlove · 2015-11-10T10:41:49+00:00

"Respect for women" and "fairness to women" doesn't need to matter in TRP. A Calculus course doesn't tell me not to kick puppies. A survival skills class doesn't tell me to be nice to children.

TRP is for learning sexual strategy not for coddling women, which is all well and good. However, independent of that, I'd posit that walking around with a "fuck you, everyone but me" attitude isn't going to help you in life. (This does not mean I think you should be a doormat.)

antariusz · 2015-11-09T23:19:49+00:00

If you don't want to respect women by all means don't. I personally don't give a shit about whatever happens in your personal lives. But please stop crying every time someone calls you out on your crap. And also remember that your stereotypical construct of what a "man" should be is slowly being eradicated by more progressive ideas, so it'd be pretty smart to, at some point, reconnect with the real world.

Ultrablue1973 · 2015-11-09T22:49:22+00:00

Because viewing women as subordinates will bleed into other areas of your life that don't involve getting laid. Especially if you have a job that involves you interact with women as customers, investors, or partners.

It may also serve you poorly as you leave the sexual marketplace and enter the relationship marketplace.

Some married red pill things are great. There are things about Married Red Pill that are just "manners" reworded to make guys feel more macho. Advice like, "reward her for good behavior." Well ... yeah! When your SO does something nice you should let them know otherwise they won't know and will think you don't care. Also, I've seen married red pill men say that you shouldn't obsess about a woman cheating. This is true. Being jealous and mean is weak and you'll lose her respect.

But seeing your wife as your subordinate ... I think that will eventually blow up in your face.

DerEwigeKatzendame · 2015-11-09T23:01:29+00:00

If anything we want women to wake up in the morning and think: "Fuck my hopes fuck my dreams, lets make this guy happy."

This is what I see encouraged by the media and society in general.

This is society's expectation of men:

do stuff that you love doing ("big boys toys")
have a fulfilling career (your career matters more than hers)
provide for your family (this is a negative)
have a high sex drive so you need sex
be as unemotional as you like
be goofy, fun-loving, inappropriate, loud, take up room
if you leave a marriage but pay for your kids, you're ok

This is society's expectations of women:

be beautiful (pluck, wax, sculpt, use cosmetics, have great hair etc)
take care of the home (an untidy house reflects on you, not him)
be responsible for your children (bad behavior/failures reflect on you, not him)
be emotional (unemotional women are disparaged as being cold)
smile at everyone and be friendly
don't be too sexual (because "too-sexual" women are sluts)
don't be loud, don't take up too much room, don't be goofy, don't be inappropriate
if you leave a marriage and your kids (but pay for your kids) - you're an unnatural woman and some kind of cold monster

OlBastard · 2015-11-09T21:24:05+00:00

TRPillers don't have to respect women or be fair to them , but it doesn't mean other people won't criticize them for their actions.

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goatismycopilot · 2015-11-10T02:48:23+00:00

Most "Alpha" seeming dudes I know don't have this whiney foot stamping thing going on though that this post embodies. They show who they are through action. Example, I have a friend at work who is a retired drug squad cop, he isn't young either or super cut. Some crazy young guy went nutty at work over something and my buddy who is the shift supervisor for security looked kind of bored, let the guy get one punch in and then wrapped him up like a pretzel. We were on our way to get coffee and he reached into his pocket and gave me some money and ," goat you're going to have to get us those coffees, guess I am tied up till the damn cops get here." He is a super nice guy to, he would do anything for anybody.

MOS you just seem pissed off because you haven't accomplished anything yet.

scrantonic1ty · 2015-11-09T20:41:58+00:00

BPers think the world revolves around them. When they see a group that has a stance that is against something integral to their identity (gender, race, their lifestyle choices, whatever), they see it as a personal attack and are deeply offended.

There's really nothing more to it than that. They are rarely equally offended by groups that take a stance against things not to do with their identity. A BPer middle-class white woman will most likely be more offended and angry with TRP than she will with coontown.

Title	Why should "respect for women" and "fairness to women" matter in TRP? repost
Author	MoneyOverSluts
Upvotes	2
Comments	76
Date	November 9, 2015 8:35 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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