RP, what BP beliefs do you have?

TheGreasyPole · 2015-05-12T09:11:07+00:00

Well, BP is defined as being "all sexual strategy beliefs that are not RP". If there was a BP idea of belief out there that worked (Lifting !) we've already incorporated it into RP.

So another way of phrasing this is "Where do you think RP is wrong ?" they amount to the same question.

My answer is... I don't think it's wrong anywhere. It can be a bit excessive in overapplying it's model/rules. And, although the model is 100% true, only 80% of it works in any given circumstances or with any given woman (it's just a different 80% for each woman).

I'm really struggling to find an RP position that, when properly understood, is flat out wrong.

Hmmm... Probably the closest I can get is when a lot of the guys say

"20% of men get all the sex, 80% of men get no sex".

I think thats way to extreme. I'd phrase that as

20% of men get all the sex they want.

20% of men get no sex except prositututes.

The remaining 60% get way less sex than they want, and just kinda bumble through with semi-blue balls until a woman "hubbys" them. Unfortunately semi-blue balls continue in that scenario

I could say that was "RP being wrong"... But I think RP is sophisticated enough to accept my view as correct, even if we use 80:20 as shorthand for this in discussion.

Similarly, you could have a pot-shot at AWALT... But you have to know it's a "Tits or GTFO" type rule... And you also have to know that RP always disagrees about what the T in AWALT stands for...

Then you could take a shot at AWALT if you beleive it means "all women are identical"... But, again, it doesn't. I think of it as that there is a female behaviour curve, and all women are on the female curve (not the male curve). There aren't unicorns as every woman is on the curve.

Again, could be a problem, but loads of room within RP for a sensible and useful view of the matter.

I honestly can't think of any BP action that would be useful in sexual strategy that RP is not already well aware of, have analysed and have added to the canon.

Thats what we do. We don't think up new ideas. We take 1001 ideas and test them against reality, report, swap notes. We end up with the 11 that work. They become RP, the 990 others get thrown back into the BP pool.

We are only interested in what works. This means we have built up a good catalog of what works.

Were you to suggest something BP that seemed really useful and likely to work... We'd have a dozen FR's on it in a week ... A new theory or adjustment to theory in a month... A few dozen more FR's a month later... Then someone would put it in an RP book and we'd all start agreeing thats an RP Move/Idea/Way of Thinking.

EDIT: Also you are thinking of it as an ideology. Thats wrong. It's a model about what works.

TRP is not the bible.

TRP is a car mechanics manual.

It's got to be correct because, whenever a car got fixed we put how in the manual.... and whenever something failed to fix a car, it came out of the manual... After 15 years of this. We got a pretty good manual put together.

FoolishWiseGuy · 2015-05-12T13:23:38+00:00

If you have truly internalised RP theory, you shouldn't have any. So none

exit_sandman · 2015-05-12T10:02:31+00:00

Nobody agrees with an ideology 100%.

Yeah, but this doesn't mean that I have to agree with the opposite. I don't think that 80% of the women in the Western world have slutted it up by the time they're 27, in fact, I think their share is far lower, and my experiences align with that assumption. But I also think that there are enough who did and that they're not good relationship material and my experiences align with that as well.

[deleted] · 2015-05-12T15:50:56+00:00

I believe TRP ideology 100%.

Aerobus · 2015-05-12T16:17:47+00:00

None at all.

wazzup987 · 2015-05-12T19:27:08+00:00

I disagree with the traditionalist bent that is found on TRP. A lot of guys there have little respect for women's capability to be responsible for their actions or have empathy for men and think they would just be better off if they got back in the kitchen. Well, I don't think we live in that world and it's time to adapt.

Women need to be held responsible for their lives just as much as men are, and it's possible too. People are extraordinarily equipped to adapt to their surroundings. The biggest obstacle is the BP mangina and WK that enable this behavior.

Whisper · 2015-05-14T09:01:55+00:00

Nobody agrees with an ideology 100%.

They do if they came up with it.

StellaSteele · 2015-05-12T12:57:21+00:00

What beliefs, and methods that are usually attributed to BP, do you have as an RP?

None that I can think of.

Nobody agrees with an ideology 100%.

And this is where you go wrong.

TRP is not an ideology. It's a collection of concepts that have been formed by empiricism and some rough theories that have been laid down to explain those empirical results. That's how we avoid the trap of dogmatism, by ruthlessly applying practical concepts. Does this increase sexual success? Does this improve me as a man? Yes or no, fuck or walk.

TRP ideas look like a radical ideology from the outside because culturally that pussy is on the highest pedestal. TRP isn't just kicking those sacred cows ala the men's rights movement, it's an instruction book for turning Bossy into delicious steak.

Tainted_OneX · 2015-05-12T21:09:23+00:00

I disagree with the idea that sexual strategy is amoral. If I meet a woman and she tells me she's married and her husband is in the other room but she wants to bang it out in the bathroom with me, I have a moral obligation to myself to not screw over my fellow man. Same thing if you switched the sex of her partner to a female.

I think parts of sexual strategy can be amoral but I do believe there is a line everyone should draw.

YES_BOIIS · 2015-05-13T20:10:46+00:00

I don't think that aloofness and being brooding is the best way to get girls or high status. Being smiley and positive and talkative worked great before TRP and acting like that makes your night so much more fun than the cold James Bond pretention game. I find ignoring a chick to be effective only when she already wants you and initiates on you. I read homo_homini_lupus or whatever her name was say that "smiling is an indication of a supplementing and weak man" like wut? And shit like "you shouldn't smile or laugh at other peoples attempts to amuse you if you don't actually find it amusing" I disagree - a friendly chuckle and a smile always gives the other person a better image of you. Being playful and crazy is imo the best way to live a fun life, even if that comes at the cost of slightly less pussy (if it is true that I would get more by being more chill and aloof).

Also using smilies while texting is apparently beta? Disagree. Love de smilies :-)

What else. Oh, I fucking love sluts. It's true that they're not reliable etc etc. but i find them to be much more entertaining to spend time with and they're easy to get to do stuff you enjoy (threesomes, deepthroat, swallowing, spontaneous trips, drinking/partying in the middle of the day or a weekday, drugs, roadhead, whatever you want). I find the "good girls" to have too much of a stick up their ass and I don't like that. Ofc I would never LTR/marry a slut but imo TRP doesn't give enough credit to how fun sluts are.

Other than that... Pretty much nothing, TRP has been on point about almost everything, even stuff that i didn't believe at first but realized to be true after some experience.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-05-12T14:33:49+00:00

My disagreements with TRP are not "BP" but stem from me being more RP than them, criticizing them from the "right", being truly amoral and not coming from reddit but from the man- o-sphere. I have no "BP" beliefs

Title	RP, what BP beliefs do you have?
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Date	May 12, 2015 8:47 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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