Gender roles ARE biological, HOWEVER, there are other factors which determine our 'masculine' and 'feminine' traits

_ArchitectofThought_ · 2015-05-08T21:17:52+00:00

gender roles are MAINLY biologically hardwired.

How do you know?

[deleted] · 2015-05-09T07:55:12+00:00

I'm not sure saying "gender roles" are biological. Rather, the sexes have average innate differences that make certain gender roles more likely to happen than others. Roles are more of a response of society to the differences.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2015-05-09T10:30:07+00:00

If gender roles were purely biological, why would our society feel so driven to shame and ostracize gender-nonconformists (particularly male gender-nonconformists)?

Why would we even NEED gender-policing if gender roles were natural?

TheChemist158 · 2015-05-08T22:16:32+00:00

I think that we should encourage both men and women to be the best people they can be. This is up to the parents interpretation, but I personally think that this includes both feminine and masculine traits. I think people should be understanding and considerate, and able to express their emotions well. I also think people should be strong, able to face challenges and think rationally. Of course people don't, but I think we should encourage them to. I don't think men and women should be held to different standards at all. Men don't get a pass to be aggressive nor do women get a pass to be lazy. In terms of personality preferences, such as leisure activities or fashion, I think both genders should be free to explore whichever gender role they want. If everyone lines up with traditional roles that is fine, so long as they had the option.

adrixshadow · 2015-05-09T07:19:25+00:00

It's pointless what you do since you cannot change anything from the very beginning.

Even if you force things you wont change anything, boys will be boys and girls will be girls.

You are overestimating how adaptable the brain is. Yes you can adapt to situations but you cannot adapt above the genetic imperative at least not without a constant pressure and a couple of generations.

17b29a · 2015-05-08T22:22:35+00:00

shouldnt we encourage taking part in both activites that are considered 'masculine' and 'feminine' for young kids so their brain will be more developed?

What sort of activities? I'm not sure playing with Barbie dolls is a necessary piece of intellectual diversity for boys.

TheGreasyPole · 2015-05-09T00:18:04+00:00

Challenging your view...

I don't think changing the mix of 'masculine and feminine' toys or activities would help a brain be more developed.

Boys have male brains (with some exception around homo/trans) and girls have female brains.

There is no reason to think that giving either type more interaction with toys/activities it does not wish to naturally select would help it learn any better.

There are reasons the boy reaches for the truck, and the girl for the doll. Their brains are trying to learn skills appropriate to their structure. There is no reason to think altering the natural choice would improve future success.

Boys need to learn what boys need to learn and vice versa.

Just put all the fucking toys in front of them and let the perverse little fuckers pick themselves. They'll probably do a pretty good job, and they'll enjoy it more.

Don't make the boy play with doll if he doesn't want to, for fuck sake. He's not going to thank you for it.

Teaching and rational knowledge is different. Everyone has to have the full basics there to even know where they want to go. Education free for all until 21 would be my way. Then make their own minds up.

But formative experience in the pre-teens ? If the boy wants to go football or RPGing, don't fucking force him to go tap class instead.

I'd concentrate more on directing to fruitful pastimes (Sport, learning, reading, exploring) rather than less fruitful ones (TV, games, sitting in his bedroom picking his nose and listening to shit music).

Sod the sex specific stuff. That's where the real action is the "useful for life skills" and "just a waste of fucking time" dichotomy. What we need to fix is THAT problem for modern kids.

Title	Gender roles ARE biological, HOWEVER, there are other factors which determine our 'masculine' and 'feminine' traits
Author	Fuschia19
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Date	May 8, 2015 9:10 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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