By request: I am a Blue Pill Woman. AMA :P

SpaceWhiskey · 2014-07-13T20:53:35+00:00

Why not, let's do this thing....

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Certain speed-dating studies suggest that both women and men, contrary to their stated preferences, value physical appearance and earning prospects similarly. Physical attractiveness is very important, personality a little less, earning prospects is secondary. This pattern allegedly holds true both short-term flings and long-term relationships. (See also this meta-analysis, which found no sex difference even after examining 54 moderators!) Also your stated or online-dating preferences supposedly don't translate to real life anymore once you start interacting with a potential partner.

How true is this to your (attraction-wise) experiences as a woman and your observations of other people? For a variety of reasons I'm still far from being completely sold on these findings. However, here you are under no obligation to dispel my doubt or reassure me; I simply pray, witness unto us the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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Physical attractiveness is very important, personality a little less, earning prospects is secondary.

I'd say personality ranks higher than physical attractiveness, but earning prospects absolutely matter to me the least, unless we're talking completely hopeless poverty or massive debt that I'd become part of. And the actions that lead to such a state would rope into personality. But I'm no gold digger.

As far as other women go, while I have heard female friends make comments about the money the men they're dating make, I've never heard someone state that not making enough was a deal-breaker, at least not since high school (when no one has bills or a real job or major life experience anyway).

I've never online dated, so I can't say how that difference breaks down personally. I think I would probably be more critical of an online prospect, but that's common sense in my opinion. It's so easy to show everyone your highlight reel and hide your flaws (I don't mean physical flaws, I mean things like anger issues). I prefer to get to know people in person.

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What do you mean by personal attraction patterns? Like, what kind of people I'm attracted to? I want to answer this I just want to make sure I'm understanding the question.

What kind of men/women rustle your jimmies?

Interesting, I like this. Well, I don't like entitlement and I don't like people who stereotype. Anytime I hear someone, man or woman, say something like "all guys/girls are worthless blah blah" I tend to roll my eyes. You can't make blanket statements like that and if every person you try to date turns out to be "crazy" or whathaveyou, usually (there are of course people with terrible luck) there's only one common denominator. Guys who make sexist comments are obviously super annoying but it's annoying to hear ignorant gendered statements from women as well. I consider myself a feminist, and I don't like women who think they can have their cake and eat it too, i.e. claim to want equality but also demand special treatment. I believe in being polite for the sake of being a decent human being, not because of gender roles. For example, if two people are dating and the woman makes more money but still expects the man to pay for dates, I think that's whack. Those sorts of arrangements should be situational.

I also have zero tolerance for homophobia. I have a boss who will says things like "I don't care what you do at home but I don't want to know about it" and it drives me up the goddamn wall.

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I'm attracted to lots of different things physically. Basically, if I'm mentally attracted to someone I will find something physically attractive as well. Tall guys are hot but I've mostly dated men shorter than me (I'm 5'10'' so thems just the breaks lol) so being "tall" is entirely relative in my case. Any man becomes hot to me in a button down shirt with a tie. Or no tie. Maybe with the top button undone. Aw yeah. My current boyfriend has long hair, which I prefer, but he's the first guy I ever dated with it, so it's not exactly a deal-breaker.

Mentally, I have to be able to have an intelligent conversation. I'm open to pretty much most political stances so long and they're actually able to defend their position. I'm very liberal, but I'm much rather talk to a center-right person who follows the news than a "democrat" who just really hated George W on principle and doesn't know anything about current events.

Also very important is a sense of humor, especially the ability to laugh at himself and doesn't get embarrassed easily. I like horror movies and mature content but I also like Disney films and anyone who can't put their manliness aside to watch Aladdin with me ain't worth my time.

I'm also really into video games, and any guy who thinking that's weird is a deal-breaker. You wouldn't think this would be a problem but you'd be surprised.

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RECAP:

RECAP is software which allows users to automatically search for free copies during a search in the fee-based online law database PACER, and to help building up a free alternative database at the Internet Archive. It was created in 2009 by a team from Princeton University and Harvard University's Berkman Center

RECAP is a Firefox extension which for each PACER document first checks if has already been uploaded by another user to the Internet Archive; if no free version exists and the user purchases the document from PACER, it will automatically upload a copy to the Internet Archive.

The RECAP team uploaded 2.7 million documents Aaron Swartz had downloaded from PACER. These represented less than 1 percent of the documents in PACER.

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Have you ever had a relationship with someone whose politics you found abhorrent?

I found out after the fact, but yes. But we're still friends and he's become more moderate on his own.

When you're considering a "One Night Stand", how to you evaluate prospects?

I've only had a few, but I have get a trusting vibe off the guy. Any hint that he might be overly aggressive or won't take no for an answer and there's no chance. Also must be willing to use a condom. I was a bartender for a few years back in college and I took a few guys home over the course of three years. I was friends with all of them so I don't know if that fully qualifies as a ONS. I've never slept with a complete stranger.

Have you ever felt a disconnect between what you wanted to find attractive, and what actually attracted you?

No. If I'm into it I'm into it.

Have you ever asked for favors from a person you knew was sexually attracted to you, but that you felt no attraction for?

Only when I don't have a choice. I've worked with a small number of men who I knew were into me. In all cases I've always been very open about the fact that I was either in a relationship and/or uninterested, but would still sometimes find myself in situations where we needed to aid each other professionally. I've never accepted a drink from someone I had no interest in and I don't use men for favors.

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Question 1

What do you think of this story? Especially the part where one of the comments say that he has unhealthy fetish for young women? How do you deal with implications that a sex positive society has on young men who find themselves increasingly disfranchised on the sexual market - thus giving rise to the TRP, an abomination that should not be.

Question 2

How much do you think would change if the Germans won WWI?

Question 3

If you had to chose between first season of True Detective and both seasons of Hannibal, which would you chose?

Question 4

Can you explain to me the obsession with giving everything a female perspective?

Question 5

Do you consider homosexuality something "unhealthy" (as in bad)? If so, why? If not, why not?

Question 6

Do you consider incest something "unhealthy" (as in bad)? If so, why? If not, why not?

Question 7

Why do women rarely wear black lipstick?

Question 8

Do you believe in Human Neurological Uniformity, which is essentially the stance that while evolution is real, human mental capacity is same within all races - from Aboriginals to East Asians?

Question 9

If you do believe in HNU, what is the primary reason for poor standard of living among third world countries? If you do not believe in HNU, how much influence have things like race and sex have on a behaviour of an average member of the said group?

Question 10

Do you consider underrepresentation of women in leadership roles and STEM an evidence of discrimination against women?

Question 11

Do you consider overrepresentation of men in leadership roles and STEm an evidence of discrimination against women?

Question 12

Do you consider overrepresentation of any group within any activity an evidence of that group being discriminatory against other groups?

Question 14

What is your favourite fiction book?

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What do you think of this (the Nazi fux, MERICA bux) story?

I think that guy is a complete douchebag and I was glad to see /r/badhistory rip that article a new one better than I ever could. He's the same guy who said that women should shoulder the guilt for mass shootings by not drawing straws to take one for the team and fuck disturbed losers. I think the flavor of that article is also drenched in entitlement and toxic patriotism. You don't own the women from the country you happen to be born to, and as much as I'd judge the fuck out of a woman from the WW2 era shacking up with a Nazi, she is not nor would ever be representative of women as a whole.

How much do you think would change if the Germans won WWI?

Um, I probably wouldn't even be alive since I'm not German or blonde. I am blue eyed though, so fingers crossed. Things would probably suck a lot more than they do now.

If you had to chose between first season of True Detective and both seasons of Hannibal, which would you chose?

I haven't seen either, but I have more friends who like Hannibal. HANNIBAL WINS

Can you explain to me the obsession with giving everything a female perspective?

It's a backlash from a long stint of only getting the male perspective on things. I think things would be better for everyone is nothing was gendered. Let girls play with building blocks and boys play with dolls. I think that right now there's a push for the female perspective on the internet because for the longest time women were silenced online for revealing themselves to be female. I say and know this as someone who has been playing on 4chan for the past 9 years. There are unspoken rules and women are over it.

Do you consider homosexuality something "unhealthy" (as in bad)? If so, why? If not, why not?

No, not at all. Homosexuality is wholly natural as in that it exists in nature. I myself am bisexual and have fucked ladies.

Why do women rarely wear black lipstick?

Because My Chemical Romance broke up. Maybe I'll try to bring it back.

Do you believe in Human Neurological Uniformity, which is essentially the stance that while evolution is real, human mental capacity is same within all races - from Aboriginals to East Asians?

I'm no expert on the subject, but I don't see why not. There are dumb and smart people everywhere.

If you do believe in HNU, what is the primary reason for poor standard of living among third world countries? If you do not believe in HNU, how much influence have things like race and sex have on a behaviour of an average member of the said group?

White imperialism and institutionalized racism. Also corporate greed. These sounds like buzzwords but I'm being serious. No race is destined to be any specific thing but people are often born into ingrained situations.

Do you consider underrepresentation of women in leadership roles and STEM an evidence of discrimination against women?

Yes.

Do you consider overrepresentation of men in leadership roles and STEm an evidence of discrimination against women?

Yes.

Do you consider overrepresentation of any group within any activity an evidence of that group being discriminatory against other groups?

Yes.

What is your favourite fiction book?

Fight Club

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Do you consider overrepresentation of any group within any activity >> an evidence of that group being discriminatory against other groups?

Yes.

What about merely structural factors? Such as (historically) women having to be pregnant and nurse all the time, restricting other activities that they could otherwise do, and men being stronger, allowing them to fight (and die). Or, for a closer-to-biology, more currently relevant example: that women and men both learn gender roles societies consider appropriate to their sex, perpetuating existing gender roles. I think, putting biology aside, such structural factors are what restricts both women and men.

I think things would be better for everyone is nothing was gendered. Let girls play with building blocks and boys play with dolls.

If you try that right now, for whatever reason girls sing "little baby" building blocks to sleep and boys play catch with dolls. Is this a sign that men's and women's behavior in society at large will have to change in order for girls and boys to learn the new gender roles?

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If men and women are really the same what would be the point of getting the female perspective?

Perspective is important. But do you believe that? Do you believe men and women truly are equal? And if so, why would only hearing the male point of a view matter if it's the same either way? Are you advocating to only hear the male view? If men and women are equal, what's wrong with only hearing the female stance?

What about merely structural factors? Such as (historically) women having to be pregnant and nurse all the time, restricting other activities that they could otherwise do, and men being stronger, allowing them to fight (and die).

But that's no longer the case. Birth control exists and more and more military forces are allowing women to join the ranks.

I think, putting biology aside, such structural factors are what restricts both women and men.

I agree.

If you try that right now, for whatever reason girls sing "little baby" building blocks to sleep and boys play catch with dolls.

Yeah but that's not true at all. It is typically adults who will "correct" the behavior of children they don't feel is appropriate for their gender. I have in my work interacted with plenty of boys who liked dolls and girls who like to build things. I have never met a girl who "sang blocks to sleep". I would love to see a source for this because it sounds ridiculous.

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If men and women are really the same what would be the point of getting the female perspective?

Perhaps that was a straw man (or I guess a straw woman since you're a woman). I just think it odd that certain movements being for equality should focus so much on gendered identity labels. It (identity politics) would reinforce gender roles if anything.

Yeah but that's not true at all. It is typically adults who will "correct" the behavior of children they don't feel is appropriate for their gender. I have in my work interacted with plenty of boys who liked dolls and girls who like to build things. I have never met a girl who "sang blocks to sleep". I would love to see a source for this because it sounds ridiculous.

Seen the interacting/singing to baby truckies in popular science books (Pink Brain, Blue Brain) but haven't looked into it further...

A less anecdotal horror story, some studies e.g. this find a greater sex difference in personality traits and attitude towards math in more gender-equal countries. Although that may have to do with differences in how people compare themselves to others. People compare themselves to the same sex in less egalitarian countries but men (and women) compare themselves to both men and women in more egalitarian countries. However, this study found a higher sex difference in mental rotation with more egalitarianism, although this may be unstable. What do you think?

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Question 1

Did you read the story?

Question 2

WWI Germans weren't Nazis. And Nazis wouldn't kill anyone who isn't German or blonde. Where did you get that silly idea?

Question 3

I like your friends.

Question 4

Fair enough.

Question 5

I dismiss your argument cause, no offense, but it's stupid. Appeals to nature without giving any additional argument for their benefit are empty. "Oh look, rape is okay cause dolphins love it, and what kind of a person hates dolphins". I remain indifferent to the issue of homosexuality, for that matter. Please put forth more convincing argument.

Question 6

I see you didn't answer it. I'll repeat : "Do you consider incest something "unhealthy" (as in bad)? If so, why? If not, why not?"

Question 7

I would rather chalk it up to the inherent white privilege white women have.

Question 8

HNU is essentially saying that races exist, and different races have general different mental capacities and behavior patterns. I would direct you to hbdchick and jayman for an easy understanding of it.

If you believe that evolution is real, and that it applies to humans, you must therefore acknowledge the genetic variance of the human species (not the human race) that manifests itself as human races. Ergo, different races on average have different capabilities.

White imperialism

Rhodesia was once known as the breadbasket of Africa. Today, after white genocide by Mugabe, they are starving. Before white imperialism, there was constant in tribe warfare, zero technological progress in comparison to European and Asian nations, and slavery which British abolished. Make of that what you will.

And I've yet to see evidence for institutionalized racism, especially since minorities in Western countries have Affirmative Action in place which openly discriminates in their favour.

Do you consider overrepresentation of any group within any activity an evidence of that group being discriminatory against other groups? Yes.

Question 13

Was Hitler right?

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Did you read the story?

Yes.

WWI Germans weren't Nazis. And Nazis wouldn't kill anyone who isn't German or blonde. Where did you get that silly idea?

I misread your question and thought you wrote WW2. My apologies. I thought it was a silly question so I gave a silly answer. If the Germans has won WW1, I don't think Hitler would have been able to tap into the post-war blues the country was reeling from to gain power and WW2 might not have happened. But who knows how that could have been orchestrated. Dat Balkan Powder Keg.

I dismiss your argument cause, no offense, but it's stupid. Appeals to nature without giving any additional argument for their benefit are empty. "Oh look, rape is okay cause dolphins love it, and what kind of a person hates dolphins". I remain indifferent to the issue of homosexuality, for that matter. Please put forth more convincing argument.

Dolphins bites the heads off fish and then fuck the heads. Nature is weird. I'm sorry though, but I'm not going to write a more in-depth analysis on homosexuality for you, there are lots of other questions in this thread for me to answer and read. I'm pro gay.

I see you didn't answer it. I'll repeat : "Do you consider incest something "unhealthy" (as in bad)? If so, why? If not, why not?"

I missed that question. I think incest is fucked up and wrong because it's a betrayal of trust and emotionally traumatizing, at least in the case of minors. If two adult relatives choose to have a relationship, well, I still hope they don't have kids but whatever I guess. A Lannister always pays his debts.

As for the rest of your questions, it sounds like you're trying to trick me into saying something that will confirm racism and I'm not into playing that game. Racism sucks.

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O..okay.

Why the stuttering ellipses? Are you shocked that I wasn't enraged by the Nazi fucker story and it's one-sidedness?

I'm indifferent to gays, but I could thing of a better argument.

What's the point of being indifferent to gays? Gay people exist they don't chose their sexuality, they're not some kind of fetish movement. Are you seriously asking me to justify gay people existing to you?

Acknowledging human biodiversity is not racist.

There is just as much diversity within races as between races. Socioeconomic differences and advantages play a much bigger role into things than skin color and eye shape.

You did not answer the question. If an overrepresentation of one group under a certain activity is a sign of discrimination then Jews in Weimar Germany really did plot against the Germans. Then partially, Hitler was right.

I'm trying to figure out if you're actually a white supremacist or just trying to get me to admit that if more men in leadership roles is wrong then Hitler must be right because you don't like feminism. I'm not a historian so if I'm slipping up on century old factoids I apologize.

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Why the stuttering ellipses? Are you shocked that I wasn't enraged by the Nazi fucker story and it's one-sidedness?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-korth/sex-over-50_b_5563576.html

This is the story and it doesn't quite show Nazi fuckers?

Are you seriously asking me to justify gay people existing to you?

Yes. I am asking you how would you justify homosexual tendencies not being a mental illness to me. I have the required material to do so (hint: it's not a mental illness) but I want to see if you can do it or you will resort to same old "homophobia" argument. Consider this my test of your debating ability and proper source handling.

Socioeconomic differences and advantages play a much bigger role into things than skin color and eye shape.

Race isn't skin color and eye shape only. Race is genetic. Genes are everything. And the genes versus memes stuff is the one you need to back up.

I'm trying to figure out if you're actually a white supremacist

I'm not.

just trying to get me to admit that if more men in leadership roles is wrong then Hitler must be right because you don't like feminism

The idea is simple, if you say that any overrepresentation of any group within any activity is a sign of discrimination against other groups - you can say the following :

"Overrepresentation of men within STEM is a sign of discrimination against women"

"Overrepresenation of Jews within German banking and media is a sign of discrimination against Germans"

That is the crux of my argument, that by applying your line of reasoning universally, you'll find that Hitler was partially right - there really is Jewish discrimination of Germans. It's a simple logic and how the hell can you not understand it? This seems to be problem with all the people who identify as blue pill for blue pill's sake.

I'm slipping up on century old factoids I apologize.

... Jesus.

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Okay, so in regards to the article you were actually asking about you said

What do you think of this story? Especially the part where one of the comments say that he has unhealthy fetish for young women? How do you deal with implications that a sex positive society has on young men who find themselves increasingly disfranchised on the sexual market - thus giving rise to the TRP, an abomination that should not be.

I think that if a man in his 50s is disgusted by a woman in her 50s, he's setting himself up for disappointment as he is certainly not about to start aging in reverse. I would say the same to a woman in her 50s who felt disgusted by men in their 50s. I won't go so far as to say that he has an "unhealthy fetish" for young bodies, but I'd be interested to know if he sleeps with young women on a regular basis, and at what point in his life he was spoiled by "young female bodies". His suggestion that she wear spanx to hide her body was insulting and his confusion about her reaction to his criticism struck me as naive. What exactly was he expecting her to say? Was he expecting her to apologize for being her actual age?

I think young men who are finding themselves increasingly disenfranchised by the "sexual marketplace" are hypocrites. They want casual sex, yet resent the women who give it to them and would also resent the same women for not giving it to them. Women can't win to those guys, might as well have sex and have fun, haters gonna hate.

Yes. I am asking you how would you justify homosexual tendencies not being a mental illness to me.

I don't have the patience or the expertise to answer such a complicated question. Since we seem to be in agreement that it's not, I don't see the point.

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There's been a billion studies about nature/nurture. Most of our behaviors are genetic, but they can be altered with conditioning. I guess that they haven't done studies on every single specific behavior or trait, but it's not like we just have no idea.

That may be the more common view, but the more commonly expressed view on reddit is that there's absolutely no difference between males and females other than genitalia, and that doesn't even matter if the person decides they don't like theirs and "identifies" as the other. And how dare you even insinuate that men are better at building things and women are better at nurturing - absolutely everything is the cause of "society" - even my personal sexual preferences are just what "society" and "media" tells me to be attracted to. Men and women are exactly the same in every way, except that men have somehow leveraged a great advantage by oppressing women in every way throughout history. How the minority does that to the majority I don't know, if they are exactly the same. I guess we used our muscles.

I know that's a bit exaggerated, but it's just a little bit of reductio ad absurdum to show how ridiculous some of the notions are that are passed around on this site. The word "feminism" doesn't seem to mean any particular thing anymore, since so many people claim to be feminist and have such vastly different definitions of what that means. But the people who do the most talking put forth some really silly ideas. Maybe they don't speak for the whole, but it's one of the reasons I avoid ever claiming adherence to any particular group - there's always a bunch of loud idiots to make you look bad.

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MRAs are entitled 20 something dudes who don't have a sophisticated enough analysis to realize that feminism isn't responsible for workplace accidents and the fuckin draft.

MRAs blame feminism for a few things such as family court issues but I've never heard of an MRA that believes feminists are the cause of workplace deaths, though perhaps it can be found if you look hard enough. I think that accusing MRAs of blaming feminism for some things which they usually don't is a common straw man against them (though there are some things which they do frequently blame feminism for).

MRAs do consistently resent or find fault with feminism for what they see as ignoring, or derailing or what they see as being inconsistent about issues like this. They generally reject "patriarchy" as a convincing explanation for issues like this.

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Feminism is the elaboration of the idea that society is ordered along gendered lines and that the end result of this order historically has been and continues to be a patriarchy.

It used to be a philosophy about equal rights for women, perhaps... but in Western civilized nations the feminist movement won long ago. Women nowadays can vote, hold political office, own land, hold jobs, and do all the same shit that men can.

Without a fight, there is no movement. So, nowadays it's a philosophy which manufactures that fight by spreading lies and misinformation (such as the myth of the wage gap and so-called "rape culture") to make women feel victimized and make all men vilified as oppressive monsters... which when you switch the genders, is the same shit MRAs do.

TL;DR yah bruh they're the fucking same.

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Dude, that's like saying that racism is over, and Nazis are the same as anti-racist activists.

Not comparable whatsoever. I don't even see how you got that out of anything I said.

And for your information, for older women, poor women and for many women of colour the wage gap is certainly a real thing

If that's the case, why aren't businesses hiring older women, poor women, and minority women in droves? If they get the same work for way less pay out of those women, that's a great way to cut labor costs for employers.

and if you don't believe that sexual assault and harassment is far, far too common it's probably because you don't know any women.

So men can't be sexually harassed either, then? I bet you're going to tell me that men can't be raped either, huh?

(Also, love the veiled insult about how I apparently must not know any women... clearly I'm talking to a completely mature person, I can tell.)

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They are. How many middle-class white dudes do you see waiting tables at diners?

More like "how many middle-class white dudes do you see in the first place" in this horrible economy, but that is another argument altogether...

You don't see a lot of women doing manual labor doing construction or climbing utility poles, either. Why? Because women don't choose those kinds of jobs. Women have always preferred comfort, safety, and flexibility over good pay when it comes to employment. Not so with men, who are much more willing to work longer hours, do more unpleasant work, and work more dangerous jobs - which, because of all of that, often pay more.

No so-called "patriarchy" is making women choose lower-paying jobs like secretary work and waitressing over welding or heavy equipment operation.

As for women in the -same- career fields as men making less? That makes no sense whatsoever - As I said, if that were the case we would see those fields staffed entirely by women and not men.

Face it - the "wage gap" is a myth. Plain and simple.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course men can be sexually harassed and raped. Outside of American prisons, however, which are a whole other fuckin psychotic rape-culture monstrosity, the huge majority of sexual assaults are committed against women, by men.

That would depend on what is considered rape or sexual harassment. There's a huge difference between a woman being forcibly raped and a woman having a few drinks then, while being lucid enough to make her own decisions, deciding to sleep with someone then regretting it three days later and calling it rape.

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Title	By request: I am a Blue Pill Woman. AMA :P
Author	SpaceWhiskey
Upvotes	1
Comments	154
Date	July 13, 2014 8:53 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2alyog/by_request_i_am_a_blue_pill_woman_ama_p/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/by-request-i-am-a-blue-pill-woman-ama-p.285323 https://theredarchive.com/post/285323

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