Am I wrong for believing these things?

SkrohnnyBpy · 2016-03-01T11:34:15+00:00

The virgin thing and the beta-alpha thing are really the only dumb things there (most people aren't into polyamoury - it's extremely niche in real life - and no shit sometimes people cheat on other people, gender doesn't matter in that context). The alpha-beta thing you don't really clarify, but imo what TRP does is take well-adjusted, social behaviour (being fit, confident) and pigeonhole it as a certain way of being. The funny part is that everyone I've met who is actually like that also has a large network of friends and usually a long-term relationship at some point, because they're actually nice and friendly people. TRP-ers just imitate what's on the surface and come out looking weird and creepy, because they don't have any of the underlying personality traits that make people like that so successful in socialising in the first place. But all that is immaterial really, because most people are not like that - and most people still get laid, and still get married, and are still happy. Confidence and personal fitness are great ways to improve yourself, but if you're still an insecure, desperate, nasty person underneath it's nothing more than a sticking plaster.

The virgin thing could be not-dumb, if you were religious or if you were also a virgin (and intended to stay that way until marriage). In those cases, it's still a bit unrealistic but there are like-minded people out there if you're willing to look and to take into account the religious aspect etc. In general, though, it's just a bit of a childish opinion to have (I used to think like that too... When I was 16. I hated the idea of a guy having had previous girlfriends, sex, etc.... Ew! Now been in a very happy relationship for 5 years with the biggest ex-manwhore I've ever met).

Obviously if you are not a virgin you are expecting your potential wife to be living a life of piety that you are unwilling to live, which is extremely hypocritical and also ignores the fact that the vast majority of these kinds of people will be expecting the same from you, meaning your pool of potential mates is now tiny.

luridlurker · 2016-03-01T19:09:08+00:00

There's really no wrong or right in what you're attracted to. If you want a virgin girlfriend/boyfriend, that's up to you. If you, yourself, aren't a virgin, but you insist on dating a virgin, that's a double standard, and there's a whole set of people who'll be turned off by that... but you're totally within your rights to seek out people who are ok with any double standard you've set up.

As others have pointed out, cheating has nothing to do with gender, polyamory isn't something you're likely to personally run into (especially if you're seeking out sexually inexperienced people), and beta/alpha is just some people's way of boxing the world up to make it feel nice and neatly packaged so they can be more comfortable in the face of uncertainty.

Overall you seem pretty focused on other people's dicks and sexual habits, which IMO is a waste of time. It's really only a thing to think about when you've got a flesh and blood person you want to have sex with and who likely wants to have sex with you. Then you've got decisions to think about, questions to answer and values to discuss... not really anything to stress over before that point.

bones_and_love · 2016-03-01T08:41:24+00:00

I just believe a few things that I guess could be seen on the red side of the spectrum. Like, if I ever want to get married, it'd have to be with a virgin. Just the thought of someone elses dick and cum having been on the lips of the woman I'm supposed to be with for the rest of my life annoys me a bit.

That's a personal sexual boundary that you have, and should share that with your partners.

I can get why theyre against polyamory; I really dont care if someone else is polyamorous or whatever, but if my wife or gf ever proposed being in an open relationship I'd probably just leave. If I don't satisfy them then, then I wont satisfy them when theyre being penetrated by a new dick every weekend.

I'd say most relationships are either very casual (so barely relationships) or monogamous. Polyamory is a minority (check the size of the /r/polyamory versus the size or /r/relationships as a point of reference). Again, this is a personal sexual boundary you have, and you should share that with any future partner you have.

If these things are important to you, just don't date people who don't bring those important features to the table. That's not "red pill" or "blue pill", that's common fucking sense.

I can agree or at least acknowledge that sometimes theyre right about women. Like with the whole beta-alpha thing. And the cheating thing occasionally.

You'll have to be clearer on what you mean. Sure, a woman can cheat on a man.

SkrohnnyBpy · 2016-03-03T07:51:37+00:00

Hello, reporting in, that guy who knows everyone. I happen to have been best friends with a guy in high school who is now in a polyamorous relationship, actually with two women at the same time. You're not wrong for having your beliefs, but I think a couple might be misguided. Does that make sense?

My buddy is actually engaged to one of the girls he's with. I don't know how that works, but the point is I don't know of her sleeping with anyone else. Think about that for a second, she basically has a free pass, and she chooses not to use it. Now, granted, this guy's pretty good looking. He's really thin, but he's not fat (I and most of the girls I know prefer muscles, but we're all martial artists/rugby players, so take that with a grain of salt), and he's a good guy. But he's also wierd. Like, you think you know wierd, then you meet this guy and realize you don't have a clue. That's him. He's a super nerd with kinks, so about as far from 'alpha' as you can go without ceasing to be a man. So control for both ends. You don't want to do polyamory, fine, I sure don't either, and I'm right there with you. Just consider that it isn't always a hotwife cheating on her beta husband.

Speaking of 'alpha' versus 'beta', this is probably the most annoying false dichotomy I've ever seen, because it comes up EVERYWHERE. Holy crap, I just looked at the link I found that trashes that distinction and it literally starts off by calling it a false dichotomy. Go ahead, read it. Well worth the read. http://scottbarrykaufman.com/article/the-myth-of-the-alpha-male/

Take it or leave it, I know where you're coming from. My first memory is of my parents arguing, and they divorced when I was something like 9 or 10. I know firsthand how that goes. I know it's hard, but try looking from a different perspective. The world's not a dark, evil, sex-hazed place. Least it wasn't when I last went outside.

Anyhow, I was falsely diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome when I was 10. Recently, I've been doing a lot of research about autism as prep work as part of an attempt to get the diagnosis annulled. Believe me when I say nothing in this post comes anywhere close to autistic.

SkrohnnyBpy · 2016-03-02T02:03:01+00:00

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Title	Am I wrong for believing these things?
Author	SkrohnnyBpy
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Date	March 1, 2016 3:48 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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