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Do feminists want immersion and equality OR censorship in gaming?

luzarius

June 17, 2015
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Title Do feminists want immersion and equality OR censorship in gaming?
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luzarius

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Comments 33
Date June 17, 2015 10:50 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Do feminists want immersion and equality OR censorship in gaming?

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June 17, 2015
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[–]NaturalisticPhallacy15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

They want to nag people who make video games to make the games they want instead of making the games they want.

Sound familiar?

[–]rpreader2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

God yes.

"Ugh there are no women in stem, they should fix that"

"Well you could major in a stem"

"Oh no way I wanna major in psychologygenderstudieschilddevelopment. Plus I'm so bad at math lol"

[–]NaturalisticPhallacy1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As if they would admit to being bad at math.

[–]netgrey2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Give them an inch and they will take a mile.

[–]luzarius1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I try to encourage developers to maintain consistency with story and lore to maintain an immersive game world. Mass Effect 1,2,3 & Witcher series do this quite well. Although I'm a bit skeptical at this point in regards Mass Effect Andromeda trying to escape the Milky way.

Mass Effect

  • First game had a night club.
  • Second game had a night club.
  • Third game I naturally expect a night club and guess what? There was a nightclub that they put a lot of effort into.

Witcher

  • First game had a brothel.
  • Second game had a brothel.
  • Third game I naturally expect a brothel and guess what? There was a brothel and they put a lot of effort into it.

(line space)

Brothels in Gaming

I had some great discussions with sex positive feminists on how to make a brothel cater to female gamers, through the inclusion of handsome male NPC's, quests that give insight into the plight of a sex worker, liberation of an enslaved sex worker or bringing up the issue of legalizing prostitution and how some women stand by it.

[–]Suravira 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Daily reminder: you can run in high heels and boob plate is a real thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ2DC2X1e5k

This is only 1.5 seconds or so slower than a pretty fast person, this is in proper high heels(+2 inches) too.

https://i.imgur.com/SPUV5JN.jpg

Real example of armour, not to mention all the manplate.

Just because they're so fat they'd break their heels, doesn't mean it's not possible especially with low heels. Also all this shit about armour deflecting blows onto the breastbone shows that women have no idea how armour works.

EDIT: On the example of Dragon Age, it is known that all the main writers left Bioware and now there are only women with women's studies degrees left about.

[–]luzarius 3 points3 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

EDIT: On the example of Dragon Age, it is known that all the main writers left Bioware and now there are only women with women's studies degrees left about.

I do not say this lightly, but what you just said is also the same conclusion I have come to.

EDIT/Update: Even if a woman could run in heels, could they trek through mud and dirt effectively and efficiently? Would it hinder their combat performance? In no way do I want Ciri's high heels removed, but is it unreasonable for a sex positive female gamer to request combat boots in addition to the high heels?

[–]Suravira 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

mud and dirt effectively and efficiently? Would it hinder their combat performance?

It's perfectly possible in low to mid heels and the idea of the heel is it helps ride a horse, not a ladies fashion statement.

sex positive female gamer

If they were sex positive they wouldn't care, and the majority of actual girl gamers don't particularly care, even if they're not sex positive. However it's become a fad and a social clique, hence why the idea of a girl gamer has become cancer, these girls are just in it to wear it like a fashion accessory.

These girls don't actually give two sods about gaming and most of them haven't even played over 100 games because the skill cap is too high for them to do so.

https://imgur.com/gallery/s3pyiqI

OP let me just say, being beta as you are, won't work with women, nor will this sad farce you have going, work with video games. If you support feminism in any way in video games, you're wrong, because it's not needed and you're contributing to it's decline.

Still there's more to life than video games.

[–]luzarius0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I posted something like this three days ago. http://s12.postimg.org/4rei979st/post4.jpg

Still there's more to life than video games.

True enough, I used to do a lot of live streaming on twitch.tv, but I've had to take care of RL.

[–]ubercoolhipsterguy2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They want to be treated like entitled princesses with secret superpowers who are only hot when they want to be for the man (more accurately series of men) who give them gina tingles

Hence Frozen

[–][deleted] 3 points3 points3 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]luzarius2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Okay, I'm finished. Please let me know if it is acceptable.

[–]pnw_diver2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This can be made easier to understand: feminists want to dictate to everyone the terms and conditions of our lives, in particular when it comes to sex. They are in general repressive, angry, and hostile when it comes to sexuality, romance, and men. This ripples out into the video game world with a small minority of game consumers (angry feminists) attempting to censor and control expression and experience in immersive video games, and to force game experiences to correspond to their world view.

The idea "if you don't like the game, don't buy it" is pointless. They don't want to not buy the game. They want to force you to buy games that have sexual content on their terms and conditions.

[–]luzarius0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

feminists want to dictate to everyone the terms and conditions of our lives, in particular when it comes to sex.

This is what I thought at first, but there are some feminists known as sex positive feminists who don't want to dictate our lives when it comes to sex. They actually want the same things we male gamers enjoy, they like eye candy too. The feminists that you're speaking of are the sex negative feminists, those are the ones who are genuinely mean, rude and want an end to a male gamers happiness. Sex negative feminists are the ones who will respond with immature comments like "fart" for example which is popular in their man hating culture. These feminists want to offend men as much as they can and will stop at nothing to do so.

If a female gamer just wants some combat boots in addition to high heels to preserve immersion, that sounds pretty reasonable. Changing out armor is a staple of RPGs.

But if a feminist wants a brothel removed from an RPG because she finds the sexual content offensive, that counts as blatant censorship. This happened in Dragon Age Inquisition sadly, they removed the brothel and any trace of sex workers. This HURT immersion, because during war times the sex drive goes way up. Brothels were always in Dragon Age, they were there in Dragon Age Origins & Dragon Age 2.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Removed. First off the summary goes up top and lessons learned at the bottom. Follow the format instructions in the announcement:

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Here's a good example of what we're looking for:

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Second, you violated this rule:

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[–]doublereignbeau4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

Haul this over to MGTOW.

[–]truthiesttruth5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

More like straight in the fucking trash.

This autistic faggot is posting in TRP about sex positive feminism in gaming and I think I literally saw the words "boob armor" as I was scrolling over the pile of shit that was this post to get down to the comments section.

INB4 another concern "trolling" temp ban, tell me just who exactly is the fucking troll in this thread? its not the commenters

[–]luzarius 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Just trying to promote simple ways of identifying if someone wants to censor a game or if their request for change is genuine in regards to preserving their immersion.

Sex negative feminists are the culprits for wanting to censor games of sexual appeal. If sexual appeal is part of an artists original vision, then it should not be censored.

Can you give me an example of when someone has requested a game to be changed because they found it offensive? Then we can take that request and compare it against this question.

"Does said person want immersion and equality OR censorship?" Through my series of questions, you'll be able to find a solution that will keep everyone happy without resorting to censorship.

Boob Plate Armor

Does it make sense to have boob plate armor in a game called Medieval Armor & Weapons simulator v1.0? Of course not, but what if the game isn't about realism? What if it's about high fantasy?

[–]vzhu2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

As much as I enjoy a good discussion on gaming, this is not the avenue for it. You should know better than to post this here.

[–]luzarius0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If this post doesn't belong here then you guys have my blessing to remove it. I'm not looking to upset anyone. If the moderator wants it removed then it's all good. cheers

[–]truthiesttruth-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I did not read anything you just typed. You are talking about a bunch of fucking stupid bullshit.

You are wasting the best years of your life in front of a computer screen.

What would your great grandfather say if he saw how you lived today? EVERY SINGLE one of your male ancestors chased tail, you are chasing lvl 50 in a virtual world of pixels. Just think about that for a second.

Replace playing video games with lifting or playing a sport. You will live a far more fulfilling life. Seek help for your addiction, I cant do anything more to help you and neither can this sub, stop dragging your faggotry into here.

[–]luzarius2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You sound like a good friend of mine in real life. I see that you have my best intentions at heart. I also respect you not sugar coating anything. Well said. I'd buy you a beer if I could. cheers

[–]jdgalt0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no way the SJWs will ever control game publishing. Every company in the field could cave in to them tomorrow morning, and in a week there'd be 50 new publishers who won't.

But somehow I have a hunch that there isn't much overlap between TRP and the game hobby anyway.

[–]Calanen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists want what all totalitarian philosophies want - everything, everywhere to be a tribute to them. So in the same way, the dictator Saddam Hussein wanted children to sing songs about his greatness, and posters of him everywhere - feminists want games to reflect their worldview and their supremacy. So, male characters to be very beta and subordinate to women, women to be kickass tough interesting characters - SJW story lines, and SJW issues, trans characters, gay characters, 'diversity' in the characters. So the game, much like real life -testifies to the supremacy of the feminist ideology by only having its beliefs and worldviews reflected within it.

[–]thisisme0007-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand why you care about this omega activity

[–]Calanen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Video games or any kind of game is just a form of entertainment. The same as novels, or watching sports, TV or gardening if that is your thing. All of those leisure activities can be called 'waste of time', and reduced to being pointless by bare description. Everyone has their leisure activity whatever it is. Provided you don't think you are in the game or a character in the game - and it doesn't become an addiction stopping you from doing other things- let people have their games.

[–]thisisme00070 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with everything but the gardening (I don't garden but that is productive). Sure let them have their leisure but who gives a shit about a detailed post and theory etc etc

[–]Calanen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason to give a shit is that video games is just one front on the Social Justice Warrior battleground, everything is at risk, TV, radio, political doctrine, doctrine being taught in universities. It's a cultural war - we have to fight the SJWs and Cultural Marxists on every single battleground, including all forms of media. The problem with saying 'who gives a shit' is it is surrender, and the people who do give a shit end up being your rulers, if they are not already.

[–]luzarius-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

omega

I am very geeky and not afraid to admit it. Gaming is one of the greatest hobbies.

[–]thisisme00071 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not a hobby, it's a distraction.

[–]PetrolFlavored-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a millennial, it amazes me to see how most of my generation didn't grow out of videogames.

Dragons? Witches? NPC romances? Holy fucking shit, we're pushing 30 years old, this is getting a bit embarrassing guys...

[–]Squeezymypenisy1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Millennials are not all 30 and are a large number of ages as they are the most recent generation. Don't assume that everyone follows the same hobbies as you. You are also assuming that OP is near 30 years of age.

[–]luzarius0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would you rather attend social parties and discuss the weather? Been there, done that. Watch Grandma's boy! :)

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