TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

  • Subreddits

      Popular

    • /r/askTRP
    • /r/TheRedPill
    • /r/MarriedRedPill
    • /r/MensRights
    • /r/MGTOW
    • /r/PurplePillDebate
    • /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
    • Other

    • /r/AllPillDebate
    • /r/AlreadyRed
    • /r/altTRP
    • /r/AntiFeminists
    • /r/askFDS
    • /r/askMRP
    • /r/askRPC
    • /r/becomeaman
    • /r/BlackPillScience
    • /r/Chadfish
    • /r/Divorce_Men
    • /r/EverydayMisandry
    • /r/ExRedPill
    • /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
    • /r/FeminismStopsWhen
    • /r/GEOTRP
    • /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
    • /r/MalePsychology
    • /r/Male_Studies
    • /r/MenSupportMen
    • /r/MGTOW2
    • /r/MuslimRedPill
    • /r/newTRP
    • /r/PussyPass
    • /r/PussyPassDenied
    • /r/RedPillBooks
    • /r/RedPillParenting
    • /r/RedPillWives
    • /r/RedPillWomen
    • /r/RedPillWorkplace
    • /r/RPChristians
    • /r/seduction
    • /r/ThankTRP
    • /r/TheRedPillStories
    • /r/trpGAME
    • /r/TRPOffTopic
    • /r/TrueBlackPillMGTOW
    • /r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre
  • Blogs

      Popular

    • Dalrock
    • Heartiste
    • Illimitable Men
    • Return of Kings
    • Rian Stone
    • The Rational Male
    • Woujo
    • Other

    • Artful Prudence
    • A Voice for Men
    • Alpha Game
    • Black Label Logic
    • Caleb Jones
    • Captain Capitalism
    • Corporate Machiavelli
    • Days of Game
    • Deep Strength
    • Dicipres
    • Donal Graeme
    • Female Misogynist
    • Free Northerner
    • Gaming My Wife
    • Good Looking Loser
    • Hawaiian Libertarian
    • In Mala Fide
    • KillToParty
    • Kill Your Inner Loser
    • Krauser PUA
    • LaidNYC
    • Married Man Sex Life
    • NO MA'AM
    • Omega Virgin Revolt
    • Pook's Mill
    • Random Xpat Rantings
    • Red Pill Theory
    • Red Pill Wifery
    • RedPillDad
    • RedPillDoctor
    • Seasons of Tumult and Discord
    • Sigma Frame
    • The Feminine Woman
    • The Futurist
    • The Masculine Principle
    • The Modern Man
    • The New Modern Man
    • The Obsidian Files
    • The Power Moves
    • The Private Man
    • The Red Pill Room
    • The Red Quest
    • The Rules Revisited
    • The Spearhead
    • Troy Francis
    • Wintery Knight
    • Young Man Red Pill
  • Books
  • Dictionary
  • @TRParchive
  • Please help TheRedArchive stay alive

FR, plus the three stages of courting a woman in today's age. Complete guide.

Ryohazukisan

July 6, 2015
62 upvotes
/r/TheRedPill
Download the post

Want to save the post for offline use on your device? Choose one of the download options below:

PDF TXT EPUB
Share
Share Tweet Reddit Email
Post Information
Title FR, plus the three stages of courting a woman in today's age. Complete guide.
Author

Ryohazukisan

Upvotes 62
Comments 49
Date July 6, 2015 5:11 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3c9qxc/fr_plus_the_three_stages_of_courting_a_woman_in/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/fr-plus-the-three-stages-of-courting-a-woman-in.34387
https://theredarchive.com/post/34387
Red Pill terms in post
the red pill
Top posts by Ryohazukisan

The Price for Obtaining Women is too High

272 upvotes
November 8, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Pregnant model posts 8.5 month hardly there baby bump, internet attacks her, doctor defends calling her healthy....

221 upvotes
March 11, 2015
/r/TheRedPill

Gang of aggressive women caught on tape savagely beating defenseless woman at Brooklyn McDonalds, public is shocked that no one came to her aid...

85 upvotes
March 12, 2015
/r/TheRedPill

"Florida police are trying to identify a female who was seen on photos posted to social media with nothing but bead necklaces around her neck as she is surrounded by a group of shirtless men"

45 upvotes
March 20, 2015
/r/TheRedPill

Nation of...bastards?

34 upvotes
April 8, 2015
/r/TheRedPill

Live Action Cinderella remake, has critics raving...but feminists are up in arms call the movie sexist...

15 upvotes
March 18, 2015
/r/TheRedPill

How does TRP handle pressure for a man to get married before 30?

12 upvotes
August 11, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Tito Ortiz, war god, forced to explain himself, go to court for custody of children, and defend criminal allegations from whore Jenna Jameson

10 upvotes
October 2, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Comments

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

On the first sentence on (1) Pickup.. ect. change need to want.

Men don't need women for relationships, we want them.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Every single time I try the short notice plan they are busy and need notice. I've tried it since coming here. OP must be with women that just work 8-4 and don't have school, or volunteer, or work out.

What works for me is planning a girl a day, 3-4 days in advance.

[–]Ryohazukisan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't make that clear. Of course you need to set a date at least 3 days in the future.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some girls have dates lined up that night, and some 3 nights in a row. Agreed, it's best to plan a couple days in advance. If the attraction is high enough, she'll get herself all worked up for it without you having to lift a finger.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If your SMV is high enough, she will change her plans for you, or even ask you out.

[–]Reddthrown 22 points23 points24 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

"I also have at least 10 other girls I'm spinning" hahahahahahaha

[–]Solomonceed 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Serious question: How the fuck does one handle the logistics of spinning more than 4-5?

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You don't - plates are a lot like contract work, if you have more clients than time you increase the price (upgrade your plates) until you have just enough higher quality sources left to fill however much time you want to waste on fucking.

After that get a main girl that cooks, cleans, runs errands and fucks. You might have to downgrade to an HB7-8 to find one willing to do all that for you in exchange for consistently good sex but unlike plates, she will benefit your life.

I'm not saying get divorce raped, just recognize that fucking all the pussy in the world is pointless hedonism and the time you have on this earth is limited: use it to create something instead. We're here enjoying Reddit and a cozy life distanced from natural selection because of previous social & technological advances - so contribute something back.

[–]Solomonceed 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shit, that's true. Time to evaluate some plates' potential, I guess.

[–]shuritsen 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It really all depends how you categorize them. I remember reading a post on here about that guy that dated only Asians, 10 at a time, the same rules that guy used more or less apply. Say you have 10 girls you're spinning. 5 of those could be casual hookups, 3 of them could be FWBs whose social circle you invade so that you could find more girls, and 2 could be semi-serious relationships.

[–]Solomonceed 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's what the others have told me. Don't know how I've never had the idea of bringing some order in there.

[–]shuritsen 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no preset order to them, you just do with them what you wish. I had a similar thing in high school, where i would rotate through 4 or 6 girls at a time. 4 i would keep as friends with benefits, and 2 i would keep as friends to invite me out to places with them so i could find more girls. nothing works better to your advantage than a pivot.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

1-X girls you see every week.

1-X girls you see every other week.

1-X girls you see once a month (ports)

[–]Solomonceed 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So basically, I should categorize hierarchically? That sounds smart. Thanks!

[–]Ryohazukisan[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great explanation. I don't know why people get so mad. An apex alpha could have dozens of "plates" all chasing him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Plates have a loose definition. There could be 5-6 girls scattered around the country you hook up with when you visit their town (I have seen this referred to as port vs plates) , to 4-5 locally on a weekly basis. Its not hard to keep things organized with a calendar and nothing gives off an air of IDGAF when you know you can text the next in line to come over.

[–]IsItJustified 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A thing to remember is that 'courtship' doesn't end at phase 3 and never to stop progressing. Women will shit test you until the day one of you dies, and that's the straight truth. Despite pushing through flakes, sluts, and crazies the thing that every person should remember is that at the end of the night only you decides your fate.

This means that despite whatever tricks you have devised, and whatever amount of the sidebar you have read ultimately who you are will stand the test of time. It's easy to read TRP and go out, find success, and then get laid by a HB8-9-whatever. What's harder is not falling into the beta mentality that I swear EVERY FUCKING REDPILLER FALLS INTO WITHOUT NOTICING.

We get comfortable with getting HB6-7's every night without trying, dating a basic girl without much effort and forgetting about improvement. As stated before you must always improve and always be striving for more. A bodybuilder NEVER STOPS BUILDING. You must never stop learning and growing.

TL;DR: These tips are great, but if you think finding a STR/LTR or a wife will change things you will always lose in the end.

[–]Ryohazukisan[S] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn't want my post to be too long, but yes I agree. The courtship never ends, always have her chasing, and reward her with dates. (Once you're in phase three though)

I agree that some redpillers here fall into being beta because they justify not spam womanizing by self development and mgtow attitude. Somehow they think they are unique, but my beta friends who don't know about redpill do the same thing. You can be redpill all day long, and bench 500 pounds, and make millions of dollars, but unless you take massive action, you won't get laid.

We don't need any particular woman, agreed. But we do need women. Big difference in my opinion. Don't act needy and desperate, but focus on the path of womanizing as if your happiness depends on it...because it does.

[–]Morpheus-Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We dont Need women dude. We WANT women.

[–]StrokeGameHusky 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He REAALLLY needs to stop saying "need"

If we needed them, a year dry spell would be fatal.

This reads as if it was written in Reader's Digest in 1969, with some TRP buzzwords thrown into throw us off.

[–]collidoscope 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This post in long-winded, inarticulate, and poorly organized.  

OP hasn't even read the sidebar.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[deleted]

What is this?

[–]RPOwl 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't know why you're getting down voted. This post reads like a bad Seddit guide. Call her at 6pm and ask when she's free? Textbook error. Definitely hasn't read the sidebar. Blatant disregard for posting guidelines.

[–]SaintMarinus 6 points6 points6 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Red Pill Vets,

Can someone please explain why this post got some many upvotes? This seems fucking stupid.

You must call her around 6pm, tell her asap how you would love to get together and ask when she is free

This is just horrible advice. Why?

  1. You're giving her an out
  2. You sound needy as fuck
  3. She could legitimately be busy..

I stopped reading after that sentence. This article is stupid.

[–]Solomonceed 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that calling her on 6pm advice isn't even BP or RP, it's just flat out super impractical.

[–]Ryohazukisan[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't make it clear. You call her at 6 pm, to ask her out for a date for a day at least three days in the future. You ask her what day is she free to get together.

[–]fckredditt 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

op, tell me how you meet girls. i hate having my friends see me failing with women, i just hate people i know seeing me fail at anything. so i can only do pick up if i'm by myself. did you meet these girls while you were alone? if so where?

[–]blacwidonsfw 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude you're wrong. Your friends don't see you fail when you get rejected. They should feel proud. I went to a club with a bunch of my good guy friends and we make a game of how ridiculous we can get rejected. It's all just fun in games it's not like you failed at anything important. You should look at it like missing a jumpshot. The only way to make em is to miss them in practice, nothing wrong with that.

[–]fckredditt 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i know it's not embarrassing to fail. it's much better than guys who dont even try. i just feel embarrassed by it that's all and it cramps my style so bad.

[–]Ryohazukisan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

That's the million dollar question. I struggle with this too. Here's my take. That it's hard for a reason, because only a true man can answer and deal with that difficult predicament. You must first focus on your life and your purpose, and as you travel through the world, you must act when you see a prospect. Secondly, you could go out alone. But lastly, if you are with friends, and see a prospect you want to approach, just approach her without saying anything to your friends, and if you go back to your friends after pickup/rejection, just tell them you know her and wanted to say hi to her. I haven't done this yet, but I will next time I'm in that situation.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

how are you managing to keep all 10 interested in still fucking you?

I don't think he is fucking all ten.... I think he's talking about having 10 on the regular texting rota. Post reads like theory.

[–]Reddthrown 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think he means he liked 10 girls on tinder.

[–]fckredditt -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

damn man. you didnt even answer my question. were you alone when you met those girls and where did you meet them?

edit: holy shit op. he's probably lying or something. can't even answer a simple question and just downvote. what a fucking joke.

[–]billy_the_pilgrm 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I also have at least 10 other girls I'm spinning

This sounds like one big waste of time. Get your priorities straight.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nothing about improving LOOKS MONEY STATUS

[–]jkonrad 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see "acting" a lot in your post. That might be your problem.

[–]Trpdoc 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To me the most important thing is that you work to constrain her hypergamy if you are interested in an LTR with her. Only girls that show a glimmer of hope whom you can do this to are worth any long term investment. There are a lot of strategies about that here but more than anything this is the most important thing that an man must assess the whole time while interacting with a girl in today's world. No discussion on this topic must leave this out.

[–]donit 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

When Saturday night comes, what do you say to the other 9 who are all asking you why you can't spend it with them? They're going to want a good answer because they all consider Saturday night to be "couple's night", and so they would really feel left out if you're not able to spend it with them. How do they explain to their friends when they're asked why they're alone on a Saturday night?

"Where's your guy? I thought you said you had a guy." They're all going to get grilled on it, and so they're going to need a solid answer to tell all their friends and family.

[–]Ryohazukisan[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you are exclusive with her, then you give her the Saturday night.

[–]donit 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Great. So, what have you been telling the other 9 girls?

[–]Ryohazukisan[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not exclusive with any girl. If I was, I wouldn't be talking to all of these girls.

See, you are so concerned with what the girl wants, and you don't even care what you want. Are you married to her? Did you make a commitment to her to be exclusive? If not, you owe her nothing, and trust me she will also not care about your feelings either when she flirts and talks to other guys. Don't set yourself up for failure by assuming the relationship is further than it is. Alot of times when she calls you at awkard hours, and she wants your Saturday night, its a shit test (either consciously or unconsciously). And when she sees that you are available to her 24/7 and you forgot your previous life for her, she will look at you as a sucker, and not respect you. If she doesn't respect you, she can't love you.

[–]RPoverdose1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Cool username OP. Basically what you're saying is apply the Shenmue concept in real life. Nobody does more cold approaching than Ryo Hazuki lol.

[–]Ryohazukisan[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I hope you donated to the Shenmue 3 kickstarter, only like 10 days left.

[–]BeefJesusMaker 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm glad someone on here has made a post about Coach Corey Wayne. I've gotten some great advice from him. I recommend everyone check out his videos on YouTube. There's over 1700 of them.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the best posts I've read so far. It's really that easy.

[–]damn_mothernature0 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

What is TRP's opinion on cold approach?

I've always met women through social circles. Even when I do pick up, it's usually because the girl just keeps staring. I use a natural opener, usually a casual comment and always keep a relaxed vibe like I do this everyday to people of both genders (which I do). I'll never ask them a question and put them on the spot.

Young women are not very receptive to being approached by strangers, in my experience. They have too many friends and will not go out on a date with a guy they didn't meet through a friend.

I see a lot of dudes making the mistake of putting the girl on the spot. If they're young, it makes them nervous and their reaction will be awkward. I usually won't even ask for their names or numbers. A lot of them will just tell you if they like what they see.

Normally, they might give a curt reply and not make any eye contacts, which is still not awkward if you're a confident guy that talks to everyone. Or they might seem especially cheerful and start asking you questions, it's usually mission accomplished and only a matter of time at this point.

I don't have a lot of experience in this area but is it such a good idea to turn every 6 and 7 into another plate? I'm usually just a chill guy and they'll invite me to parties where you'll get to meet the 8s and 9s. You'll always have that option to pursue later.

But this is probably different when it comes to complete strangers. I've always acted like I'll see these girls again and watch out for my own reputation. This is good when you're in college but maybe not so much outside.

[–]slay_it_forward 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have a lot of limiting beliefs. I've picked up young girls during the day countless time.

[–]Darthstacker -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Solid post OP. Some real good advice. I think I'm probably a little older than you and I have worked in sales my whole life and I agree with you on #2 about asking questions and listening. I would emphasize asking thought provoking questions that will bring you closer or at least let you know if you potentially want to LTR this girl or just plate her. I enjoy talking about psychology with girls on first dates. Like what is her birth order (is she the baby, oldest, middle born, or only child) ask her how that affected her. Talk about the Myers Briggs test and where she falls on the chart (extrovert/introvert etc). If you are compatible then maybe she gets a second date. If she talks about how she is still on meds after being alpha widowed by her ex then... check please!

Also on #3 I like pulling away and making the girl chase as she will love this and it can be fun for you too. I also will surprise them with very specific attention like flowers at work where all her girlfriends can see them. Then have great sex with her and then start pulling away again. Warning Using this technique may result in a restraining order if you dump this stalker!

Browse all authors
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter