'the wall' is not just about appearance.

AhIndeed · 2019-10-30T02:41:33+00:00

Absolutely savage

binrobinro · 2019-10-30T02:51:53+00:00

She sits there so refined,and drinks herself half-blind

She lost her youth and she lost her beauty

Now she's lost her mind

Why_should_I_mayne · 2019-10-30T03:50:23+00:00

He'd be right if this were 1950, but not today as the thirst of betas is too strong. I remember reading how in the 16th century that women who hit 20 years of age and were not married were already considered past the age and treated as post wall, the only men who'd accept them were 50 year old guys and up, man how things have changed. Everything is reversed these days, I see cucks desperate to wife up women in their 40s with adult children and 3 divorces, too many damn cucks, they disgust me.

theoracleofosiris · 2019-10-30T03:12:44+00:00

Lol he is so out of touch. 30 year old women can still pull tonnes of thirsty men on tinder. Try it out yourself!

bluegrayandgreen · 2019-10-30T07:48:27+00:00

Women are obsessed with their appearance. I admit in my beta days I was too. I couldn’t understand why being nice and charming coupled with being a relatively attractive person (far from a 10, but I’m in shape and clean up well) was only leading to marginal success with women so I put much more effort into my looks. Even still in many of those cases it was just “my turn” as the meme goes.

Since I’ve been more MGTOW minded I attract women like crazy and realize how idolizing the booty and attention was a detriment to my success. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been on a date in the past where women express concern of aging to me. It’s really tragic, but women used to get the better of me for a long time so fuck em. They hit the wall quick and just don’t have anything interesting about them other than used up holes. They relied exclusively on youth and beauty to support their superficial lives and they crash and burn quickly as a result.

I’d like to believe in love and traditional women still, but it’s tough. Maybes that’s just the residual simp in me but I try to stay open minded.

eduardkoopman · 2019-10-30T09:26:33+00:00

In this day and age. I see "The Wall" as such, for women.

matter/subject	before wall	after wall

Random (uncommited) sex from dudes.	Can easily get from nearly every men, including hot men.	Can easily get from men, but not anymore from hot looking men.
Getting commitment or commited relationship	Can easily get from most men, including desireable men	Can't easily or at all get from men. For sure not from desireable men. Men that want kids also don't want to give commitment. Can maybe still get commitment from less desirable men (not so good looks, poor-ish, low status, etc..)
Getting free stuff, help, attention, dates, gifts, entrance, etc.. From random dudes	Can easily get from most men, including desireable men	Can't easily or at all get from men. For sure not from desireable men. Can maybe still get some of that from less desirable men (not so good looks, poor-ish, low status, etc..)

jeffreywolfe · 2019-10-30T04:14:44+00:00

THE WALL COMES FOR YE

puregoldlight · 2019-10-30T11:05:18+00:00

The wall is real. But men need to stop obsessing over it and the schadenfreude they derive from it. There is no badge of honor - it’s a waste of mental energy. Women don’t care - they will always be a surplus of simps willing to pick up tab.

Iappreci8thegr8r8m8 · 2019-10-30T13:06:03+00:00

Bob Dylan has a great song about a womans fall from grace as well. First Verse:

Once upon a time you dressed so fine

Threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?

People call say 'beware doll, you're bound to fall'

You thought they were all kidding you

You used to laugh about

Everybody that was hanging out

Now you don't talk so loud

Now you don't seem so proud

About having to be scrounging your next meal

How does it feel?

To be without a home

Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone

FrostyGoingHisOwnWay · 2019-10-30T12:58:48+00:00

One interesting thing that's just occurred to me is that in most of our evolutionary history men and women had short lifespans, like 30 years was about average at one point. And in some sense I think the 2 strategies of male and female SMV (that mens starts at 0% and increases, and womens starts at 100% and decreases) was in some sense tuned for that 30 years.

But as we've evolved to live to the better part of 100 years I think men are cashing in on this strategy because 30 is now nothing, women have hit the wall at 30 and their looks are gone, and their eggs are producing a high likelyhood of problems in pregnancy and increased chance of genetic disease. And so women spend more and more time in our elongated lifespan during the poor parts of their SMV, where as men can coast probably until 60 if you take care of yourself.

Life seems unfair at first as a boy, that you have to work your ass off and there's no return for decades, but really which is a better strategy can only be answered when you consider the rate at which thnigs change, how fast you increase in SMV and how fast she decreases, but also the timespan over which this happens.

[deleted] · 2019-10-30T11:28:19+00:00

Jesus that's brutal.

badaboomxx · 2019-10-30T14:13:38+00:00

This is brutal and I love it, a perfect description of how things will end. And no, it is not worth saving at any point.

Tex_Willer_44 · 2019-10-30T15:05:13+00:00

I have a friend who is in her mid 40s now. She rode the CC to extremis in her 20s. To such an extent that she is totally unable to pair bond, and has given up. She has also ballooned in weight, whereas before she was sylph-like. She still goes on the odd date with exes, but her work is so hard that she will have to change career soon. From what she says, she would give it all up to marry a rich guy. But she has left it much much too late. I've known for a long time not to go near her romantically, but am able to keep a friendship going. I feel sorry for her in a way - a case study of the chickens coming home to roost.

Diebert · 2019-10-30T12:22:57+00:00

This is pure platinum

HurtinSteve · 2019-10-30T14:21:34+00:00

Plot twist: Pizza girl still thinks she is 18 and refuses to date any of the 'nice' guys she has met in her life. Still waiting for her golden chad.

realChebz · 2019-10-30T17:02:54+00:00

I think OP himself is sounding a little bitter.

schiffreagent · 2020-01-07T22:46:05+00:00

but the average girl hits puberty at age 11ish, you're all agreeing and saying 12 year old pubescents are more attractive than 27 year old late 20's women. we have a word for that, its called pedophilia holly shit

bcdf22 · 2019-10-30T17:28:35+00:00

I don’t really think the wall is about appearance, because it seems like women and men age pretty equally

but what does seem to be a huge problem is that women become jaded, extremely picky about the men they choose, even though their dating pool gets smaller and smaller

I know a woman who is in her 40s and who still pulls plenty of men, (I’m half her age and she pulls the same as me ) but she’s extremelyyy picky about the men she chooses, she wants a man to look like Channing Tatum, be over 6 ft, make 6 figures, be smart, funny, charming over text, etc extremely unreasonable

a charming dude came up to her and he was shorter than her (she’s pretty tall) and she pretty much laughed in his face. He gave her his business card and I told her to look him up. she threw out his card but I looked him up anyway. turns out he was the owner of some huge corporation lmfao. I told her and she was like “oh well he’s still super short” That explains why she hasn’t had a date in over 10 yrs

just save yourselves the trouble

J-for-josh · 2019-10-30T02:22:21+00:00

Not sure about this chief

Title	'the wall' is not just about appearance.
Author	mgtowyear4
Upvotes	569
Comments	59
Date	October 30, 2019 2:06 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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