I feel so incredibly empty.

TheObelisk · 2019-01-30T15:02:24+00:00

When you love yourself sufficiently, you'll no longer need love from the external. Find yourself.

Dontmindmebrother · 2019-01-30T15:47:41+00:00

Internal validation trumps any validation from the external world.

[deleted] · 2019-01-30T15:07:45+00:00

Look on the bright side.... You might not have figured this shit out until it was too late! Now you have a lifetime ahead of you to do whatever you want!

But I feel you, OP. It can be a lonely path. Hollow at times and honestly, a lot of us are 1 blowjob away from returning to the plantation. You must be strong.

The key is creating a life you enjoy living. You are the master of your own destiny now.

Look inward. Spiral outward. Go your own way.

mgtow-zen · 2019-01-30T15:31:24+00:00

I know what you mean.

But, if you think about it nothing has changed. Women are no different than they were before, they never did love us. It's just that now you don't have to chase after a mirage. You haven't really lost anything.

It's depressing at first. But then something happens, you realize that you can't really love them either, but you can experience love flowing through you to them. Then, you experience a higher kind of Love that feels divine, because it is. When this happens it's important to remember it is not coming from them.

But the acceptance and just human experience if having a conversation with them, maybe doing stuff.. etc... yea I know what you mean. Only answer I've found is online stuff or solo hobbies.

JMD173 · 2019-01-30T16:18:01+00:00

The price of sheep is boredom, while the price of the wolf is loneliness.

XavierMalory · 2019-01-30T16:02:31+00:00

To quote the movie, The Devil's Advocate, where Keanu Reeves is talking to Al Pachino.

K: "What about love?"

A: "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate."

You can break the addiction to a high dose of that endorphin. I like to think of it as akin to someone who suffers a sugar crash after eating a ton of super sweet foods. You can get that sugar craving satisfied by eating apples or fruit instead. Healthier and won't make you feel like shit afterwards. Same goes for love. Have love for your family, for your friends. Sure it's not the same as a sexual relationship "high" but it will get the job done.

As for the rest, the other comments say it best: Self-Actualization. Look to validation from yourself

OdenPanic · 2019-01-30T15:03:55+00:00

Start by learning to love and accept yourself. I know it is a hard choice, but if you actively make that choice, you will be better. I was the same way. I learned by doing small things to better my life for and only me. The o ly acceptance I needed was from myself because I was doing it for me. One thing that made a big impact in my self confidence and peace of mind was a start of doing things I had control over. I cleaned and organized my house. Once I did that to where I felt I had control of it and kept it up, it gave me pride and helped me move to other issues. A feeling of accomplishment can push you to better things.

Samuraidweeb · 2019-01-30T16:10:02+00:00

Meaningless? Oh no no that's the pragramming talking love yourself live for yourself.

Hswghost · 2019-01-30T15:01:50+00:00

Start looking out for #1. That meaninglessness will turn into numbness and you wont give a fuck about anything anymore.

BadassGT-CS · 2019-01-30T16:56:32+00:00

Get a doggo!

nigelh · 2019-01-30T17:23:09+00:00

We are sorry but you have been lied to by every romance since they ended "and they all lived happily ever after". It was never going to happen and it never will. It's going to feel bad for a bit but not long. Think back and remember something you always wanted to do. OK that one's probably OTT but try again and be more realistic. Now plan to do it. You'll be amazed how quickly living life for yourself kicks in. And how good it is.

nopersonbestpal · 2019-01-30T17:37:14+00:00

Sex is good. A dog, money and peace is also good. It's all up to you man

TheGreatEvil · 2019-01-30T18:40:54+00:00

It's natural. The need is still there, you just rejected it. But it will continue to lurk around. Dedicate time to the things you like, challenge yourself. You start to feel worthless, because society will measure you by the woman next to you. You need to find your own worth. Away from the people that say that you're worthless unless you bow. Perhaps your worth is in drawing. Working out. Sports. But as a man, you need challenge. Challenge resembles responsibility. You need to come forward, tell yourself 'I will do X', do it, look at it and say 'Man, I'm good'. It's hard to self evaluate, particularly if you ha e self esteem problems. But stay strong. Find something you like, find people who are good at it, and try to surpass them. Give it time though, it wo t work over night.

battle_opponent · 2019-01-30T20:48:58+00:00

Get a dog and get a hooker, don't confuse the two.

kaczan3 · 2019-01-30T21:19:07+00:00

" Life feels meaningless when you know that noone will ever love you the way you thought you'd be loved "

I know it's harsh, but that's just how being an adult is. There is no Santa Clause, no one will reward you, no one will save you. You just have to take care of yourself.

CastandRefused · 2019-01-30T19:17:41+00:00

Women are just people. They're nothing special. Once you realize them for what they are, it's easier to go about your day. Yeah they look nice, but being in love is nothing great in my experience. It's not too hard for me since I'm not a people person to begin with. I like people, but I need my alone time.

A relationship or "love" would interfere with who I am at my core. I want to enjoy my life and seek knowledge, better myself. Not be tied down with more responsibilities. A wife and kids tor example would be things I am not willing to take on.

throwawayofthedayhah · 2019-01-30T22:55:27+00:00

All that love you believed women could give you, want to know what that is?

A projection. A fantasy.

But all projections need to come from somewhere. That's right: it came from you.

That ideal loving woman you wished for is nothing less than your capacity to be that loving, caring person for others. You have so much love to give, because you know how to love.

Love is a male emotion. Give it to the world, your brothers, and you will reap the benefits.

Original_Username7 · 2019-01-30T18:16:38+00:00

Yes, this is a very normal feeling to have, a stage to be in. I'll tell you what worked for me: nurturing friendships with my guy buddies, they love me more and in deeper ways than my wife ever did; learning to love myself, which sounds bogus initially, but think about it this way, we usually seek outside approval so that we can justify liking ourselves, but if you realize you are a person to yourself, the best one in fact, then you can "cut out the middleman" and just go straight to loving, liking, appreciating and approving of yourself, and your opinion should be the opinion you respect the most anyway; studying and discovering the truth that there is a God, that He made me, is using me daily, and loves me more than I can even comprehend, this has so much impact on my life I can't even describe it.

DobbyTheTroll · 2019-01-30T19:55:36+00:00

You need to bro it up more. All the fun zero of the drama. Fart and make all the dick jokes you want!

Sir_Koopaman · 2019-01-30T21:01:57+00:00

Love is a lie based on some chemical reactions in your brain

Battleaxe19 · 2019-01-30T21:26:25+00:00

Life is great if you love yourself. But having a women around who loves you is almost as great. Maybe one day you'll be lucky enough to have that.

2MetresAbove · 2019-01-30T21:46:18+00:00

There was a time that love, loyalty, trust, and more might have very well existed. Sexual Revolution has destroyed everything. It is plain human recycling now. I know it hurts, but the sooner you accept the truth and move on, the sooner you will pull yourself together and stop living an illusion of relationships/marriages that can be built on principles. These days, they can't. The system is rigged. Do not engage in it.

searangex · 2019-01-30T18:40:15+00:00

I still sometimes feel this way, but I think you'll begin to feel comfortably numb

Gravy_Gecko · 2019-01-30T19:00:45+00:00

Love yourself...and get a dog.

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74374471 · 2019-01-30T20:02:29+00:00

I went through the same thing dude, for me it took about 18 months to process, but now my validation is much more internal and self generated and I realised I have value even if I don't have kids and an ex wife.

anotsosecretspy · 2019-01-30T21:08:05+00:00

you know what women are like? have you met all women? everyone's different mate no need to be paranoid. you can still form meaninful relationships with men and women. that said it is still not great to based all of your worth on other people.

Disbursed-operant · 2019-01-30T21:12:20+00:00

Listen bro, you have to love yourself. Loneliness like your feeling stems from your looking OUTWARD into the world for love and affection.

Looking outside of yourself, theres only ONE place you'll find someone to love you unconditionally, no matter what your flaws are, who will be faithful and love you with every ounce of loyalty they have. And that is your dog.

Humans will lie, hurt, cheat, steal, and backstab you for anything. Sometimes for no reason at all. It's the world and how it is.

But if you look INWARD, and focus on yourself and become truly the best man you can be, and LOVE your own journey and transformation, then all of that outside crap will no longer matter to you for shit. Except for your dog.

S1ck0m0d3 · 2019-01-30T21:57:12+00:00

Don't pursue, ever. Interact but never pursue. We can't assume ALL women a gold digging parasites, just as every guy isn't a rapey perv.

If we're at a concert or book store I strike up a conversation with them based on the environment, "How did you hear about them?" "Did you like that book?" Instead of hitting on her: engage, interact, she's a person just like you with problems and bad days. She might be hot or cute, but she's human first and foremost. Her shit stinks just as bad as mine. Just like everybody else, she wants to have a good time, a pleasant time, a relaxing time, a quiet time, she doesn't want a dog following her around behind her heels. Be a man and do your own shit. And I don't mean a beta White Knight, fuck Gillette and their bullshit ad. Talk to women but don't hound them down. There's more important things than women, like working on yourself, your career, your hobbies, your pass time, spend money on yourself, enjoy yourself. But putting all your time and energy on someone else other than yourself (assuming you're a single dude with no other responsibilities like kids) you might as well pour lighter fluid on your money and toss a lit match to it. Go boating, go fishing with your pals, poker nights, LAN parties, parties just to party, be selfish for the right reasons. Selfish isn't a dirty word. Love yourself before ever thinking of giving up your independence. Know the difference between wants and needs. You need food and water, you want pussy. But you can live without it, you can pull it to pornhub. Same results but without the risk of alimony in the end.

DWS33_ · 2019-01-30T23:06:55+00:00

you’ll get over it. find something that drives you. you’ll feel better

cyndonn66 · 2019-01-30T23:16:49+00:00

Buy a dog and discover unconditional appreciation.

TruthSeekingPerson · 2019-01-31T00:08:25+00:00

Work on yourself. It's more rewarding.

ikhwan_arif · 2019-01-31T01:53:54+00:00

You can learn to love yourself. Take care of yourself. Treat yourself well. Motivate and encourage yourself.

CaritosVeritatos · 2019-01-31T01:58:37+00:00

Read Job and Jeremiah buddy.

Or.... At least hear the Lamentation -- translation in the description.

https://youtu.be/XJvFi69VNXU

PabloEscoba · 2019-01-31T02:57:06+00:00

Toughen up Incel or GTFO

laptopdragon · 2019-01-31T03:18:42+00:00

get a dog.

build a robot...

or do both?

jonathino001 · 2019-01-31T10:52:16+00:00

There is no objective meaning to life, and there never has been. Once you learn that that is actually a GOOD thing, then you'll feel way less nihilistic about all this.

I don't WANT there to be an objective meaning to life. Because that just means that I'm just a pawn in some gods plan. That my whole life boils down to doing what someone else wants me to do. FUCK THAT. A life with no objective meaning is WAY better than that. If someone said that their parents are overly controlling, and they want to tell them how they should live their life, most people would say that's terrible. I would never want to live like that. And yet when god does it we're supposed to find it fulfilling? What kind of sense does that make?

Sit down, and make a list of all the things you enjoy doing the most. Then figure out a plan that allows you to maximize the time you spend doing those things. There you go. That's how you lead a fulfilling life. Now it may be that one of the items on that list is sex, in which case I can't really judge you. There are MGTOW's who just can't stop fucking. Of course, it'd be safer to stop altogether, but do whatever you have to do. Just make sure to be as safe as possible, and try not to revolve your life around the pussy. Or it may be that you need that companionship. In which case try to realize that a romantic/sexual relationship is not the only form of companionship there is. Fill that gap with friends, and maybe a pet.

Also watch this.

crazycatlorde · 2019-04-08T04:14:34+00:00

Some general advice: be nice to them even when you’re anonymous on the internet. You reap what you sow.

For others: referencing his totally unwarranted comment saying a girl looked like a mouth-breather and then being mad that he got down-voted.

For the record, I am sorry you feel betrayed by women. I also want to remind you that your sample size is limited to your own life; A few bad encounters shouldn’t make you write-off half of the earth’s population. Women and men can be good and bad, and that’s part of life. I hope that you meet someone who changes your outlook, truly.

Title	I feel so incredibly empty.
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Date	January 30, 2019 2:52 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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