We need to give women a bit of a break... just a bit.

strongandhappy · 2018-12-11T01:28:54+00:00

I think your post and critique are quite superficial and flippant, but generally on the mark. It sounds like you haven't been particularly damaged by the system you admit has serious problems so you frankly have no right to criticize the men who have. These men invested their heart and souls into a system that betrayed them. You walking in fresh as a daisy and saying "chill out" isn't very original or constructive. But thanks for sharing your thoughts and maybe you'll learn something yourself. Cheers.

801735 · 2018-12-11T01:12:58+00:00

Surely you mean bear children, right? Or do you mean specifically they strip children off their clothes (which they also do, yes)?

And re your post, why don't they just eat ~~cake~~ womaning up instead? You forgot to make a list of the bad things, no?

Women don't need this.

And we do. Now what?

Sometimes I try to take things back as to the primal.

Oh, no, no, keep it sophisticated. I prefer it that way. No need to revert back to the "wild". We're a high-tech civilization, remember?

This means they need to figure out who is best for them to mate with and they need to do it fast! In the first 3rd of their life.

And they don't, instead they fuck around. And AFTER they've missed their opportunity widow (not a typo) it's time for us to simply take the fall and marry them en-masse, because OP said so. GUYS! FOLLOW ME! (lights the torch) OP will turn on the plantation lights so we can find the way back! ]=)

the whole, she left me when I was broke but wants me now I've got money, story is just old, get over it.

Sure, so should they. In your 30+s and no takers? Get over it.

No BB for you? Get over it.

Noone helping you out by doing your work? Get over it.

Why don't they simply woman up, OP? You know, equality style. Thoughts?

NVCowboy · 2018-12-11T01:23:04+00:00

I’m not really too concerned as to why women are the way they are, and as frequently stated here, most of us are not “women-haters”, we just have realized that the game is massively rigged against men.

So I choose not to play.

MXRNate77 · 2018-12-11T01:32:30+00:00

Why do women (as well as OP) think having kids is a new thing?! On top of that they have much more advanced medical care and resources to raise children in the modern era. Having and raising kids is easier now than ever in history. So I give 0 fucks about it.

ijnenak · 2018-12-11T01:27:35+00:00

OP is the most toxic and sexist one here but seems to think he is noble

Nightsky19 · 2018-12-11T01:54:23+00:00

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Nightsky19 · 2018-12-11T01:26:01+00:00

Op piss off and die

500dollarsinprizes · 2018-12-11T02:10:36+00:00

I understand your sentiment, you patriot for the way things should be.

Please, the front is that way. Here’s your bayonet.

Nightsky19 · 2018-12-11T01:19:00+00:00

Couldn't care less about their problems.

DWShimoda · 2018-12-11T02:20:54+00:00

This has been a public service announcement, please don't ban me.

I think for your own sanity... you SHOULD be banned.

Have you always been schizo? Are you taking your meds?

cafeorange · 2018-12-11T01:32:26+00:00

In response to your title, hopefully it is a summarized version if the WOT that i did not read. They can have all the break and freedom they want. Im leaving them outside of my life.

DangZagnut · 2018-12-11T02:14:32+00:00

Women have it tough? possibly. Men have it tough too.

Everyone has it tough, still no reason to get married and have kids, and most importantly risk financial stability to enter into a government contract for no reason.

adamonthecosta · 2018-12-11T02:51:55+00:00

This is a well thought, reasonable point of view and I agree with a lot of things you say.

That said, women have been made equal. They have been given equal power, equal freedom, equal opportunity. Unfortunately with this freedom and equality, women are making bad choices that are seriously detrimental to themselves, to the men in their lives and to society as a whole. Worst still...women aren't learning from their mistakes or taking responsibility for them...they are just rationalizing and trying to change societies views on their poor choices and general behavior to avoid the facing up to the consequences of it.

Women today, cherry pick at equality. They want all the good parts of equality but reject the 'icky' but important parts of equality...like taking responsibility for their actions. If we are to accept women as our equals...we have to accept that they knowingly cherry pick at equality.

Rolling out equality...yeah sure...you might expect some teething problems...but women have had over half a decade...the info is out there...the lessons should have been learned by now...but they haven't been. Female behavior is only getting worse and worse as the years go by. Women are making poorer decisions as the years go by. Women are becoming ever more of a destructive force in our society as the years go by.

Women have had their break. They not only took it...but they are still exploiting the hell out of it and are fucking up western civilization in the process.

If there is one thing that we don't need to do...it's give women a break. They have demonstrated quite clearly that they cannot be trusted with a break.

tramese · 2018-12-11T01:27:24+00:00

this post is like the transition from white knight to mgtow. You learned from being half burned.

NickTesla2018 · 2018-12-11T01:46:13+00:00

He'll come back after getting toasted. They always come back.

Csedilla · 2018-12-11T02:11:11+00:00

To you, the facts of life make financial gains the end-all-be-all reason to not care. There's more to female toxicity than you're providing in this topic. You expect us to excuse some of the downright violent behavior in females, because of their biology? What the fuck is wrong with you?

" Fellas being a woman isn't easy. Let go of the resentment and let's not forget how beautiful and sexy they are, how they can smell good, they really can improve your life and can make you feel good about yourself. Let's not forget about how they care for our children and how our mothers who probably went with our alpha male dads treated some shumck in a way he probably got butthurt about lol. "

You have no god damn idea what my parents were like, don't lump them into some fucked up generalization that's half-assed at best. As strongandhappy said, you walking in fresh as a daisy and saying "chill out" doesn't help one damn bit.

Fabianstrategy1 · 2018-12-11T04:04:13+00:00

Your armor’s too shiny kid.

Nightsky19 · 2018-12-11T03:10:59+00:00

I'll probably get banned for this lol but fuck it. I just found this sub recently and have been scrolling through LMAO. But I feel like if someone wanted to argue if toxic masculinity is a real thing... one could definitely find it here lol

Soy boys always have an issue with masculinity. That's why they lash out like a woman and call it 'toxic masculinity' It's self projection.

I never had a GF before, because I felt I wasn't good enough to be with the 8+ girls I liked, as I was basically broke living with my parents. But now I understand I am the prize and tbh any girl would be lucky to be with me. But that being said I have no resentment to women who want guys with money. It just makes things so much easier lol, I just can't blame them. I would hate to date broke me, but rich me is lit! (FYI I'm not rich)

Self projection. You think winning is determined by where you are on the sexual marketplace. You say you did amazing without a woman in your life. Great, that's how it works. And yet you still went back to the plantation. The reason being is, you still chased the approval of women.

You really think most MGTOWs don't hook up with women? You think we are some monk living alone in a monastery? MGTOW is purely about not having your value determined by your use to women and use to society. MGTOW is about breaking free from the chains of gynocentrism. It's about claiming your sovereignty. Your worth being determined much greater than your value to women. The drive to accomplish, build and succeed.

Let's take your 'not feeling good enough' for example. Determined by your SMV. Determined by your use to women. MGTOW asks why? When the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

This means they need to figure out who is best for them to mate with and they need to do it fast! In the first 3rd of their life. A time when they are also learning about the world around them and how to manoeuvre.

Again. Defining your life by pedestalising women. What about what is best for me? I can't really say women today are worth cohabiting with.

They need to figure this out ASAP so anything that makes it easier they'll do it. If that means attraction to the alpha male, because he's showing all the signs of being a good mate, someone that can protect and provide, that's what they will do. Stop crying about it.

You're speaking linear. Today's alpha male to women is tomorrow's beta cuck who gets cheated on. I've seen this too much to know that to be true. Again, utter focus on what is best for women. Life is incredible and it's much greater than our biological imperative.

Fellas being a woman isn't easy. Let go of the resentment and let's not forget how beautiful and sexy they are, how they can smell good, they really can improve your life and can make you feel good about yourself. Let's not forget about how they care for our children and how our mothers who probably went with our alpha male dads treated some shumck in a way he probably got butthurt about lol.

Actually, being a woman is incredibly easy. So much that men are wanting to become women. Society has pedestalised women to the point it's utterly tiring. Women don't become more than what their biological value to men. And that's the sad part. They have every opportunity to go out there and make their worth and yet they show time and time again that they would rather be defined on SMV and their beauty. Esp in her prime. Rather than going out to earn it. She'll adhere to her primitive nature and extract resources from men.

Also bullshit on the 'caring for our children' Women tend to put themselves before their children. Again, something I have seen even in my own mother.

In conclusion: It's like you've just discovered the red pill and are retorting lines that we've since evolved from. Because it's sexual strategy but the game isn't worth playing. So we discovered a greater truth. Walking away brings peace and happiness.

everythangspeachie · 2018-12-11T04:35:25+00:00

Look my guy, at the end of the day i just want to do ME. I understand everything you say and it all makes sense. The thing is men have alot more to lose if we get in a relationship and have kids and all that. You just agreed that men are the only ones capable of loyalty so how can you argue against that? I dont know about you but the majority of men i know are loyal to theyre women, but the majority of women i know arnt. Many of the things men say about women or vice versa arnt about gender at all. You have no idea the kind of shit iv seen from women, iv had married women hanging off my neck, iv had women flirt with me when there bf's are a few feet away, iv had chicks bend over right in front of me and look back at me while theyre down there and look me right in the eyes. The attention from our women is more than enough, women are not the same, they need attention and validation where ever they can get it. Women are too emotional, one day they love you then one day you get into a fight and she already has someone in mind she can go and fuck whenever she wants, why? Because its easy for women to do that. A woman will ruin a mans life because she is in her feelings. Women use there bodies to get what they want. Women will literally marry a man so she can divorce him and take his money i mean isnt that FUCKING CRAZY? You hear about it but when you see it happen OH MY GOD is it a fucked up thing to see. Women like to manipulate men, they will make you jealous and when you call them out on it they will twist it around and make it seem like WE are the problem. Just look at the entirety of history, every culture ever holds women to a different standard. People have always known the true nature of women. Why do you think women are covered up in muslim countries and have circumcisions? Because they understand the effect women have on society and nip that shit in the bud, literally. Yes i think women are fucking beautiful and soft and they smell good and they have a hole in them thats designed for us to go into, but go ahead and do what you want just like we do. We are not crying about women, we are just posting exepriences of ours and we are helping each other see the truth with every post we see here. Most of us dont hate women, some of us do. Just like some feminist hate men and others dont. People have a problem with the things we say because it doesnt agree with modern societal standards. We cant say what we want because people are too sensitive for that shit. Also people say why are you always talking about women just move one women dont care what we think. Yes we dont care what women think and its even better for us if women dont care that we are MGTOW. This isnt the male equivalent of feminism, we arnt trying to get a message to women so they can change because we know they wont, we are just doing what we want, if anything we want to help other men understand the nature of women and for them to be more careful and also to stop feeding women what they want. We are a support group, what you see posted here is just stories that back up what we know to be true. Women dont have to come on here and hate on us because like our name says MEN GOING THEYRE OWN WAY.

HeathenTrouble · 2018-12-11T01:12:04+00:00

Your right you should probably get banned.

NietzscheExplosion · 2018-12-11T05:46:05+00:00

I do feel bad for them they will not be able to adapt for what's to come. Obsolescence.

Frosty1990 · 2018-12-11T06:37:08+00:00

OP, I see where your coming from and I see where this sub is coming from, at one point I agree that this sub does come off a little to extreme on hating woman and my other point is that they hit it right on the nail.

I’m sorry that your getting shitted on but it’s true a lot of men on this subreddit have been hurt and taken advantage of including myself but some men’s lives have been completely destroyed, and lucky for you you didn’t run into those type of vile woman that brought us her.

Not all woman are terrible I agree but there are some that are. And are only in it for themselves and I believe the men in this subreddit had a few crossing with the evil ones, anyways good content on both sides let’s not burn op at the stake. Us redpill and PUA guys don’t have a place to go to anymore we need some kinda home

Taroman23 · 2018-12-11T07:10:45+00:00

Talk about being a child, compartmentalising the narrative and looking at the world with blinders on. Enjoy getting raped for 50%

Title	We need to give women a bit of a break... just a bit.
Author	Nightsky19
Upvotes	0
Comments	72
Date	December 11, 2018 1:07 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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Have you always been schizo? Are you taking your meds?