tl;dr: I went to the ER and an EMT pressed the head of his penis to my hand when performing my IV. I told my nurse, she brushed it off. I told the front desk intake, who I now suspect brushed me off. Can I report this to someone who'll investigate?
The details: On Friday, I went to the ER for sharp chest pains. An EMT was shadowing the nurse doing my intake and triage, and he put in my IV. My arm was straight with my wrist and hand over the side of the bed, and I wasn't looking because I'm afraid of needles. My hand was in a loose fist. First I felt cloth against my knuckle, which I reasoned away because he had to be close to put in an IV. Then I distinctly felt the head of his penis (clothed). I immediately said, "Hey," firmly but quietly, and bent my wrist/curled my hand into a fist to get it away. Neither he nor the nurse on the other side of me said anything. It's possible that neither he nor the nurse noticed; I was mortified and very quiet. At that point he did the needle stick and moved away.
I thought that he was done, but he'd just turned away to get a tube that needed to be attached. When he turned back I felt panicked and said, "Can you -- can he please keep his pelvis, crotch region away from me?" (I had a hard time fighting against the just-be-polite instinct.) He said, "No, look, there's space there," and passed his hand between mine and his pants. I said, "Yeah, there's space there now," upset but (again) quiet. He flushed the IV (his IV hurt like a bitch, too) and left.
The nurse was about to follow him and I said, "Uh, he -- I distinctly felt his penis when he was in close." She scoffed and shook her head, saying, "Well I'm sure that anything he did was accidental. He's incredibly good at what he does. He's very professional." Then, she left. I didn't mention it to her again. I considered telling the X-Ray technician when he took me to/from X-Rays, but I wanted to tell a woman instead because I was mortified.
Once I was discharged I passed the security offices on the way out, but went to the triage desk and started to tell the woman at intake instead. She stopped me and had me come around to the next door to speak to a woman who was one of the "nursing managers" (or maybe a "nursing supervisor"). She knew the EMT I was describing right away (I doubt they had more EMTs shadowing nurses, and he also easily identifiable). The EMT and another nurse actually briefly wheeled a patient past us during the conversation, although we were quiet and partially hidden by a mobile partition. I told her what happened and she said that they take reports like this very seriously, it would be looked into, and that she was sorry that it had happened to me.
When she got up to let me out of the door she asked if I felt better. I took it to mean it I felt better about what had happened and I said, "It's not about how I feel, I just want to make sure that it's taken care of so it doesn't happen in the future." I can't recall if she agreed but wanted to confirm that I felt better, or agreed but was asking if my chest pain felt better. (It was one of those situations where it's hard to hear the other person, but also awkward clarifying what they said.)
Last night, I realized that the nursing manager never wrote anything down while we talked. It's 100% possible that this was just a mistake, but even so, wouldn't you want to document it just in case?
EDIT: Sorry, I should have posted this in something like hospitaladminadvice. I wasn't/am not interested in bringing actual legal action. My b.
[–]FlyingSexistPig75 points76 points77 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I had a great chiropractor who told me a story of one of his patients once.
First off, he has clear instructions for all his patients: bring loose fitting shorts and a T-shirt when you come to his office for adjustment. When you walk in, his assistant takes you to a room where you can change. When you're changed, you flip a light switch, and when he's ready for you, he opens the door and lets you in to the room where he does all his work. It's nice and very professional.
So, a woman who he had adjusted came back at her next scheduled appointment and said that she wasn't comfortable with his technique, because she felt like he was feeling her up. He said that he wasn't, and that he treated her the same say he treated everyone, male and female. She was satisfied with that response, and gathered her things to go into the changing room. He asked her where she was going, and she said, "to the changing room". He replied, "Oh, no, dear, you're not. You're not my patient any more. You're going to have to find a new chiropractor."
This woman made it clear that she was the kind of woman to take any physical contact as somehow an affront to her femininity (even when she explicitly asked for and was paying for said contact). And then she expected him to continue to expose himself to a career-ending allegation.
[–]eduardkoopman34 points35 points36 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This will cause doctors not wanting to medically treat her. Rightfully so. If her (imo, false) complaint (and false ones of other women) would be taken serious by law, then women would face being left untreated by doctors. Great work!
[–]Kid_Raptor3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Chiropractors aren't doctors. A large percentage don't even believe in the germ theory of disease, because they think all health problems are caused by spinal issues. People have become paralyzed from neck adjustments, & a few have died. There are even chiropractors who do "adjustments" on newborns, which fills me with rage.
This chick seems to have been kinda nuts, I justccccc Had to say something against alternative medicine & pseudoscience.
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah girl, men have penises.
Every day you learn something new...
[–]gigasimpdeluxe19 points20 points21 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"Mortified". This doesn't sound like a total overreaction at all. What a cunt.
[–]thxnwy17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I distinctly remember my younger years when a full-bosomed nurse rest my arm in a way that it was in physical contact with one of her boob. It was either blood pressure or blood draw. I got embarrassed. I don't think she did it intentionally but clearly didn't give a shit either. Nurses in a professional setting are pretty desensitized to physical contact or seeing a naked body, they have to be.
[–]Toshiba1point014 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So I should be offended and report that a female with breasts touched me? I love how women can make themselves out to be a victim when nothing actually happened except in their own mind. How about ignoring it and just accept the fact they are treating you. Of course when they step out of line, it was an “accident” or the are “sorry.”
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[–]hrm08940 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I used the ceddit link to read the removed comments. They were hilarious.
https://www.ceddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/a4lg2s
[–]comercialseverywhere6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She knows what the head of a flaccid penis feels like through clothes brushing against her hand without looking? Shes a victim super hero.
[–]mug3n5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't imagine having to work in a medical profession where you have contact all the time like this. incidental or otherwise part of the job description (like being a massage therapist). the number of unreasonable people they deal with must be too damn high.
[–]gigasimpdeluxe3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course there is now a woman or a cuck in the comments encouraging her to make a report to the police. What a fucking joke.
[–]Drekalo4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The comments read like they're straight out of /r/amitheasshole. She got roasted.
[–]thequarenteenpill1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
the comments on that thread are great
[–]mzbc4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This person is a menace to society and needs to be barred from any medical facility (or other place where they might encounter a human) that is not fully staffed by robots.
[–]usa_foot_print4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, one of the persons should have said, "Ok, thank you for the complaint. We will take this very seriously." And then thrown the complaint away
[–]Lavendercrimson124 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The other day I got a vaccination shot, and the nurse straddled her legs on either side of mine. Her inner thigh region was pressed against my knee, and her vagina was only a few inches from my knee. #me too /S
[–]German9922 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I held my penis a few hours ago to aim during urination, but now I think I was shaking it a little too long post stream.
TIL I can assault myself, but I could have been asking for it too...
metoome
[–]heal_thyself0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I was frisked once by a cop. His hand briefly brushed my penis. Should I sue him for sexual harassment, or should he sue me for sexual harassment?
Or, was he just conducting a standard procedure in the process of doing his duty and my penis just got brushed?