Bait

88Will88 · 2018-01-25T13:36:12+00:00

Nice post and cleverly worded. Schopenhauer has dealt with this exact topic succinctly. He said:

“nature has had in view what could in theatrical terms be called a stage-effect: it has provided her with superabundant beauty and charm for a few years at the expense of the whole remainder of her life, so that during these years she may so capture the imagination of a man that he is carried away into undertaking to support her honorably in some form or another for the rest of her life, a step he would seem hardly likely to take for purely rational considerations. “

The bait and the hook.

MattyAnon · 2018-01-25T12:01:12+00:00

I have always got annoyed when I hear that men objectify women

The irony of this is threefold: it's fundamentally not true of the betas they accuse of this crime - they're busy whiteknighting m'lady. And the Chads who do objectify them they positively love. And lastly women simply and concisely objectify all men: we are relegated to creeps, thugs, fucks or providers. If you hear women talking about attractive men, they are hardly saying "I care deeply about his inner feelings and dreams and aspirations".

As such it's a shit test, a powerplay: "Let's pretend I don't have a vagina for the purposes of your provisioning and protecting me".

Just because my sexual drive is visually based does not mean I objectify her

Ahhhh stop jumping through her hoops. "Be quiet object" is all you need to say to these tests, then laugh.

dr_warlock · 2018-01-25T15:02:17+00:00

Women's only power is sex. So they say and do whatever they can to assert control of the frame on the subject. 'Objectifying' is just one of many shaming tactics in their arsenal to have you willing relinquish frame on the matter. It works amazingly on most men. They take your programmed need for pussy and female intimacy and use it against you. Psyche warfare is the battleground of the female. Women are designed to manipulate and men are predisposed to allow it. Never take them seriously it's all just a big power game. Stop giving a shit if a woman feels secure and you're one step closer to freedom, mental freedom. Where the mind goes, the body follows.

Kinbaku_enthusiast · 2018-01-25T16:26:51+00:00

I objectify women all the time and they objectify me.

Some objectify me as physically as I them, wanting to run their hands over my muscles. But more generally women objectify men as status objects. Something to prove to her girlfriends, parents or other people how attractive and succesful she is.

Women love bragging with the work their boyfriend does, if his work is something that provides status.

Women focus on appearance because it's effective in attracting status objects. Men attain status because it's effective in attracting fertility objects.

progressionoverload · 2018-01-25T15:50:07+00:00

Nothing like a good metaphor to remember a good truth.

TheBrokenRuler · 2018-01-25T16:27:37+00:00

You're not wrong

But I'm gonna keep objectifying them anyway

Jonlife · 2018-01-25T14:52:54+00:00

You're trying to rationalize hypergamy in your own words. No matter how you put it so that it helps you explain female nature, it's still the same. Hypergamous nature in females hasn't changed for eons. And it won't.

You want to find the best way to attract women? The easiest way. Simply Aquire currency and plenty of resources. You will attract every psycho cunt and able bodied female on the planet.

Then you'll start complaining that you can't find a "quality" woman blah blah blah...

First world problems.

You sex drive is driving your agenda. You're letting your little head do all the thinking. This is why men post age 30 are much more suave and mellow. They arent trying to hump everything that moves.

The more you tame this urge the better decisions you will make. For one, you'll stop wasting money on these hoes who don't deserve it.

stacysmomlovesme · 2018-01-27T23:05:15+00:00

No dude.

Is the lion not the predator because zebras bait him with tasty flesh?

Predators have needs and take them. Somehow you equate wanting something with prey and thats incorrect.

mml76gs · 2018-01-25T17:40:25+00:00

The objectification issue is an issue of projection. I mean: they expect everyone to objectify them all the time because they do it to themselves.

hiddenpersona · 2018-01-25T19:53:22+00:00

It’s really funny we are living in an upside down world. I never objectifed women when I was growing up. As a child I was the funny kid of the class so girls kept me as their toy to laugh when it’s needed. In my teenage years I was in a band, we got kinda famous so girls used me to get drunk, get famous, party and all that jazz. In college I was ripped, strong and crazy. They used me as a fuck toy. Now I’m on my way to become rich, sexy and other shit. And they want to use me for all this shit. Since I was a kid I only objectified them as cute or sexy girls or women. I just wanted to be with them both “romance” wise and sexual vise. Now I see the picture. They are misdirecting their agenda when they use men for everything and they cover it up by talking shit about our sexual desire. It’s all different now. I play their fame. Met a rich girl with an expensive car and an apartment? I will manipulate the shit out of her until all of her bonding hormones release when she sees me so I can drive their cars, use their houses and shit. Even more, I will meet more of her friends and climb the ladder. Since there is always a better version in every circle.

BluepillProfessor · 2018-01-27T21:44:43+00:00

She is the one who decides to wear the most revealing dress so to expose as much skin and cleavage as possible

Esthar Villar says something similar in a bit more detail:

Very successful men usually have abysmally stupid wives (unless, of course, one considers woman's skill at transforming herself into bait for man a feat of intelligence).

By the age of twelve at the latest, most women have decided to become prostitutes. Or, to put it another way they have planned a future for themselves which consists of choosing a man and letting him do all the work. In return for his support, they are prepared to let him make use of their vagina at certain given intervals.

PhaedrusHunt · 2018-01-25T17:37:39+00:00

Probably gonna get downvoted but here goes anyway.

I still think there are cool women out there worth building a relationship with. Love em and leave em isn't a bad thing to do. But I see it as akin to getting a car. Don't get the first one you test drive. But, test driving cars forever won't work either. You'll find the right car at some point. It may be the second, it may be the hundredth.

The thing to remember is you can always get a new car if you don't like the one you have. Or if you just want an extra car.

BonelessSkinless · 2018-01-25T19:45:47+00:00

NEVER. NEVERRR catch feelings always AWALT and focus on bettering yourself for your own self

pbgswd · 2018-01-25T22:32:24+00:00

That women are busy, obsessed with objectifying themselves for sexual power above other women, and then over men is very true. Women objectify themselves first and foremost.

bookoftomatoes · 2018-01-28T08:25:01+00:00

I swear these posts are becoming more and more MGTOW everyday. I think that's friggin' awesome. We are rising!

general-heartless · 2018-01-28T20:18:38+00:00

"Clever fish will taste and nibble on the bait then swim away to live another day."

This made me laugh out loud, because it's true. Steal that delicious bait (delicious pussy), but don't get hooked, then swim away. Haha.

Title	Bait
Author	ianpac
Upvotes	499
Comments	68
Date	January 25, 2018 9:34 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7sv02c/bait/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/bait.48388 https://theredarchive.com/post/48388

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