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[–]puppet_account14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes I put the cereal in the refrigerator and the milk in the cabinet. So yeah..
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. Notice how he never writes "In my humble opinion."
Think about that.
[–]MesaBoogeyMan2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol same here
[–]OnlyTheRealAdvice1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why does it matter for MGTOW man? Feminism helped MGTOW men. Men had it even worse under traditionalism. The real battle was never feminism. It was a society that requires no responsibility from women and unlimited responsibility from men.
[–]strongandhappy97 points98 points99 points 7 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
This works as a mgtow manifesto for me. Very well done.
[–]cobaltcolander49 points50 points51 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree. I think it should be stickied for a long time.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
But that would suggest feminism is the true enemy of mgtow. I thought it was just female nature. I'm confused. Yes, a little drunk too.
[–]TheLastMgtow9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. But it is easier to attack feminism. Maybe its one thing at the time. They think that if feminism is over they won't put up with shit tests, nagging, insane female behavior, and tinder apps to talk with chad.
The post is mra, but its a good post.
There is no bargaining with women.
Any bargain, is weakness.
Real men are only as powerful as their willingness to walk away. Any bargain with a woman is a victory to her.
[–]yooshio[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Incorrect. Read the punchline again. The post is Indifference...the virtue of MGTOW.
[–]TheLastMgtow1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
Yes indifference towards Feminism, but not towards females if they stop being feminists, then they will just cuck.
Post is mra, no reference to female nature, just feminism as the only problem. The problem with female nature comprises most recorded history, saying that feminism is the problem is throwing sand at our eyes. Female nature is the reason our world is so fucked and it is going to get even more fucked. These dudes are sick and delusional, they think that by fixing feminism the world is going to be great again forever. Mras, they never accomplished anything and never will, because they still bargain with women. Its weakness. "Please, please females, stop being mean to us men, ok?"
[–]Turnheartsoffathers0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Without feminism a man could use his will and strength to guide women and children, unhindered in his judgement. This is akin to an ultimatum: return to what God/nature intended you to be or embrace suffering every day of your existence. No compromise.
[–]TheLastMgtow0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
This is like a circular issue, and i dont seem to find a definitive answer or solution to both the individual man problems and society problems. If you give men their wives and families back they won't be happy either. Back in the days of the traditional family, men were heavily brainwashed and shamed to form families and become real men. Although i agree with you that this was good for society, it was alienating to the individual man...
So where do i stand? I dont know dude. We will see...
What solves society problems is what will inevitably lead to society's problems. But certainly better to do something than nothing.
You cant look at society of 100 years ago and see it as a model for us now. You need to look within yourself and maybe long before that.
Look at how men use to be in the wild. 10.000 years ago. Were we interested in marriage there? Would we even care about having a family, what was in for us? The truth is men were wild, and we didnt care about family and women unless women proved and gave a lot in exchange. Otherwise bust and move...bust and move...Thats men in nature. Women cant shame men in nature when our numbers are small. Because we can just leave for greener pastures and live without them. The issue is that your natural environment as a descendant of primates was destroyed and appropriated, you are yourself a domesticated version of the homosapiens, no longer capable of surviving in the wild, because your wild was attacked and consumed. You are living in packed cities, women and society know they have you by the balls, and you have no where to run no where to hide.
We know the power of males in society and relationships are their willingness and capacity to walk away. However we are cucked by civilization, and there is no where to run. All your options will be bargains with the system, and all your options will be to a certain extent cucked...
Without feminism you say... Is tinder feminism? Are smart phones feminist? Will you ban that too? Because if you dont ban that, then husbands will be cucked. Will you ban porn? Do you know the long term effects that porn has on men? Do you think a man can be a capable father in a society where food is artificial and toxic? For how long?
This are just a few problems and challenges for you brother... You also have the other issue of monogamy being totally artificial to men. The 4 chemicals that are released in your brain while you are in LTRs that reduce testosterone, and make you weak and comformed.
Look at history. Look at the cycle of civilizations. The rises and falls. Its all there. Barbarian men always overcomes comfortable civilized monogamous sedentary men.
The question is are men really happy in relationships with women? How natural is that for men? Aren't monogamous relationships an artificial degeneracy that men do, because they feel pressured to do. Reality is really complex and this issue is not as simple as that. If you have been in LTRs you would know that a lot of the problem is also our male nature that tends to act in a certain way.
I do however agree. That ending feminism will make things better, as long as we dont go autistic on the traditionalism. But it is still coping and cucking. Feminism is enabled by overpopulation, male disposability, migration, technology. To get read of feminism without getting read of its natural roots you will simply masquerade it and hurt men.
[–]Turnheartsoffathers0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't know about a good solution, but I do know a better direction. When given the choice between having a wife and not having one most people would rather have one, but it's skewed when you can't keep her due to 'no fault' divorce and other societal elements prying the family apart. If societal cohesion ends we are going to get dark ages 2.0, and I'm not keen on that happening. So I'd be willing to sacrifice a bit of personal freedom if it meant everyone else was chipping in theirs too.
It's OK to not know where you stand on every topic, there are way too many to know them all. An open and humble attitude is the best way to learn!
I don't see 100 years ago as the model, rather I view it as the last time we were on the right track. Knock away the bad and keep building on the right foundation. Civilization and the domestication of man has occurred, no point in trying to compare dogs to wolves either. But the man does need more power in his own life, an overreaching State leaves little control, on that I agree. If the man of the household was allowed to control/moderate what his daughters and wife did then tinder and smart phones wouldn't be such a problem. Porn is something far more sinister, it's design is to siphon the natural urges to have sex into non-productive acts. As such I do believe it should be banned. Capability to be a father is certainly limited in this day and age, and planting your own garden is something most people don't consider because they don't view themselves as capable persons in the first place.
Monogamy is artificial to men's nature, but it makes for a nice solution of everybody gets a woman and in exchange we promise not to raid each other. Without a need for conflict the body naturally adjusts. History has plenty of examples of the rise and fall of empires, but in the end civilization, the act of working together for the greater good, has always won out in the end. It's simply more effective to work together than work against each other. Barbarians will always overtake the comfortable man, but I think the citizen soldier model of Sparta, or the early colonial US provides a solution there. Eternal vigilance is the price to maintain freedom against such invaders. Sparta fell due to its concentration of power into a smaller and smaller class of elites over time which caused most of the population to feel so excluded they would rather revolt than stay loyal. Colonial US expanded into the 50 states + other territories it is today. It has withdrawn many of the privileges of citizenship it initially promised (such as the right to own guns) and instead given citizenship to those who don't follow the prescribed immigration patters. A cancer from the inside is deadlier than the enemy that can be seen and fought. A solution is to spread power out and increase solidarity within the ranks of our people.
I think most relationships come with plenty of downsides for the individual, both for men and women. But as a whole I think when such relationships are in balance the sum of benefits comes out higher than the price. Nagging wife & taxes > barbarian invaders you must repel. Between the sexes and the State a good balance needs to be established.
Traditionalism is but a stone in the house of historical progress. 1000 years ago things looked differently to the traditionalist of the time. I agree coping/masking the problem will lead to further issues down the line. I don't know solutions to all the problems, but I want to start at what I see is one root issue: lack of family cohesion and the resulting lack of societal cohesion.
[–]TheLastMgtow0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When given the choice between having a wife and not having one most people would rather have one, but it's skewed when you can't keep her due to 'no fault' divorce and other societal elements prying the family apart. If societal cohesion ends we are going to get dark ages 2.0, and I'm not keen on that happening. So I'd be willing to sacrifice a bit of personal freedom if it meant everyone else was chipping in theirs too.
Correction if given the choice: Most men will choose to be alone, and are duped by society to get married or commit to women, either because of brainwashing or because of sex. Look at boys in puberty they want sex, they dont want commitment to women, they hate girls, boys hate being around girls. The only boys that enjoy being around girls are gay. The reason you cant keep her its not because of nofault divorce. But because of culture and technology, and of course female nature, hypergamy. In islam they still cheat on abdul with Jihadi Ibrahim, and risk stoning.
Just like you im against nofault divorce. But you dont seem to grasp the bigger picture. Even if you dont have nofault divorce women have access to tinder. The problem of relationships, is that technology and modern society made it so that only men who get to commit are the ones who dont mind losing their girl soon. So this has been a cucked version of the homosapiens for a while now. If you want to maintain a relationship you are competing with hundreds of thousands of other men, social media and reality shows caused that effect. So unless you have power to runaway you are a nobody, in other words never commit, because women know that those who commit are weak now.
So basically you are married with your wife but she is working, while you and your friends are unemployed, because they gave your jobs to them. Then yeah expect to be cucked by her boss. How about that? Nofault divorce? Then you want a divorce and you cant. "Oh but i have a reason, because i have evidence that she cheated on me with her boss" Never happens women can basically spread their legs in a minute to cheat on you and never get caught... Most men really only want to be free, that means free from women and society. They want sex, and thats what enslaves them to society and social bullshit. Women are social butterflies because thats where they enslave men and get their power.
I don't see 100 years ago as the model, rather I view it as the last time we were on the right track.
Well then think again bro. If you implement the same thing of 100 years ago, you will have men going to war and working, while women are logged in on tinder. 100 years ago we were 1.6 billion in the world. Now we are 7.2 billion. You cant address feminism without addressing its root causes. Otherwise you will just men getting cucked and hurted.
If the man of the household was allowed to control/moderate what his daughters and wife did then tinder and smart phones wouldn't be such a problem.
Ok... How? You would forbid their smartphones? We are stepping on sharia territory. But i would vote for you.
and planting your own garden is something most people don't consider because they don't view themselves as capable persons in the first place.
This is not true. Its more because they see that the world around them is insanely chaotic and its free for all. Who will plant a garden if it can be destroyed every single day. Men want women only on their terms, otherwise they dont want them.
You have to look into your wild past, not into your christian or traditional past. A man would not stay around a woman longer than sex. She would be the one proving to be worth it, and she would not transgress because the world was A GARDEN itself built and made by god, where men could simply walk off from her instead of listening to her. But one day hypergamy nagged him, and forced him into bitting the forbidden fruit, and he listened to her and he was forced into her demands, and he started creating technology, and destroying the garden to build luxury for her!!! That is the original sin. The original sin is pandering to women, and hypergamy.
Monogamy is artificial to men's nature, but it makes for a nice solution of everybody gets a woman and in exchange we promise not to raid each other.
Oh my dude i agree with this at least emotionally. But thats where weakness lies in a man. Thats when he settles. When he builds walls. When he stops being free...You will then become an easy target. To comfortable. And your women will again crave the barbarian.
Without a need for conflict the body naturally adjusts.
You said it all. Men become lazy, fat and dumb in marriages and then wonder why shit happens...
Barbarians will always overtake the comfortable man, but I think the citizen soldier model of Sparta, or the early colonial US provides a solution there.
Dude sparta was the most cucked civilization ever. A lot of their men died virgin and young in the battlefield. Women had absolute power in the household and inherited everything. After some time men were becoming homosexuals and could not impregnate their wives so they hire younger spartans or slaves to do so. Sparta collapsed. Sparta is the prime example of what gynocentrism can do to a society. Sparta is exactly why traditionalism should be avoided so we dont end like slave soldiers who fetishize sacrifice for women.
Sparta fell due to its concentration of power into a smaller and smaller class of elites over time
Dude sparta fell because of women. Some good videos for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppGCbh8ggUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cR7rZJytSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw
Sparta fell due to its concentration of power into a smaller and smaller class of elites over time which caused most of the population to feel so excluded they would rather revolt than stay loyal.
In other words birthrate problems, and women living in luxury, while men died in the battlefield.
Colonial US expanded into the 50 states + other territories it is today.
Proving my theory that in order for men to be powerful they need territory to expand to, and have a say on their destiny without women around nagging them. The freedom of the US was all due to finding a new rich wild land.
Nagging wife & taxes > barbarian invaders you must repel.
Its the same. Nagging wife = she wants to get banged by Ghenghis Khan, and because you are settling with her you are definitely not a Ghenghis Khan. But what can we do, cuck lives matter...Just repel any Tyrone, while she lays back and enjoys as we slaughter ourselves. Maybe we could just recognize that the problem is female nature, but no, that is to hard, cuck lives matter feels better.
Between the sexes and the State a good balance needs to be established.
In nature there is no balance, and no bargains with the female. You fuck her and you leave her. In nature the lioness shit tests the lion, he fucks her despite that, and he leaves her. There are no lions when you no longer have the savannah. You need the savannah first, destroy the root causes of feminism first, or both at the same time. A lion that joins cuck lives matter becomes a house cat. You are basically telling me that its fine to be a house cat and get cucked, because muh civilization and society. This is why mgtows cant stand tradcucks.
Traditionalism is but a stone in the house of historical progress.
Traditionalism is coping. Traditionalism is the emasculation of men. Traditionalism is what turned the roman republic and kingdom into a multicultural empire, and got cucked. Power is not bargained with women, power is power and they have no choice.
We dont need traditionalism. We need full awareness of female nature, mgtow philosophy revealed to all men, and women taken all their priviledges. The rest will follow. The men who will make families will do it on their terms, no bargains. Women should be kicked out of politics, army, segregate education, employment. The men who stay single should be valued not shamed. The women who choose to be single should not be given anything, no welfare. Thats what we can do to help the problem. But the main problem is in what we did to the world and our natural environment, and that was caused by generations of cucked men and baby boomers who were delusional.
Thanks for this debate. And sorry for my tone sometimes.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What we saw was a huge wall of text rambling with the same old ideas.
[–]TheLastMgtow0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Typical passer by weasel with no opinion or argument.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I choose not to rehash dated material. I am joining the philosophical avant-garde where the passion for expressing outrage is not at the forefront of the debate.
[–]yooshio[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, you certainly take what you will from it. I don't read it like that.
Yes indeed it is indifference towards females. Feminism IS female nature. There is a spectrum to it meaning that all women are feminists in someway shape or form.
Indifference is non-negotiable. It is the off switch. If you don't understand that then you hold some other concept in your mind that contradicts the point of the piece.
Have you even read my comment. Nothing that you said contradicts my point.
There a clear distinction in the text between Females and Feminism, and there is even a different tone referring to females and feminists.
And also:
"Either feminists abandon feminism or abandon all hopes of being wives".
As if they abandoning feminism would make them any better. Or as if they themselves abandoning feminism will fix the situation and men will walk back to the plantation as if nothing happened.
We have to stop being afraid of saying the truth. Men kill each other because of female nature. Female nature is the problem, feminism is just female nature on steroids. Feminism being the worst version of female nature is actually what forced men to wake up from the original evil, pure and normal female nature.
So start talking about female nature.
[–]TheLastMgtow0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
except that if feminism is over you as a man will still be screwed in a relationship with a woman. But thats another chapter.
[–]Ronin_Black0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The real fight is against other "men", Cucks, white knights, etc
[–]TheLastMgtow0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Half of them are drones and dont know whats happening, they will always follow whatever the current narrative is. How do you fight an enemy you cant see? We dont know who is our enemy we cant identify him or reach him. All you have is staged politics made to divide us, the real enemy if there is an actual real enemy instead of just opportunists, you cant see.
You fight them by being invisible yourself, withdraw, regroup, and do guerrilla. There is no solution without the society as a whole going down with this. This is what i think for now, but i might change my opinion.
[–]Turnheartsoffathers1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The real enemy does exist; look at who controls the current narrative. From what you are forbidden to criticize, to who controls the media, to who makes up a majority of politicians, to who controls the banks, these people control life for the drones. The Illuminati is some far off and mysterious unknowable group, a mere scapegoat for who's really behind the curtain. A little searching reveals a lot once you realize Oz isn't a wizard after all. If you have any questions please, feel free to ask away!
[–]TheLastMgtow0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I edited my last comment, the bulk stayed the same.
So who controls the narrative? The jews? The illuminati? Did they control things also in the roman empire? If they didnt exist all would be good and we would live happy everafter? See thats where the illuminati theory and jew stuff falls apart.
Illuminati theory has been debunked many times. As for the jews they are men like you, they are not aliens with superpowers.
The same problems we face now happened before in history and in different parts of the globe. Im not descrediting what the validity of your argument because indeed we reached a time in history where a small organization could control us with their accumulated knowledge, so please inform me why, i will listen. But it is very unlikely that the problem is as simple as that. It is easy to think that way...
[–]Turnheartsoffathers0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm going piggyback both replies here.
Illuminati research is a futile effort, akin to learning how powerful Oz is. But Oz is a farce, smoke and mirrors to distract while he hides behind the curtain. Most media companies are almost exclusively jewish at the top, an easily researched fact. It would be completely disingenuous to say we would all be good and live happily ever after. It's just one more problem that needs to be addressed, just like female nature. It would be just as disingenuous to say it was just women acting according to their natures. I know that most people are just looking to comprehend as best as they can the entire situation, but I think reality is that the situation is too complex for just one person to understand. So they simplify things in their heads and assign blame to one or two aspects that they can wrap their heads around, and ignore the rest. Not because they are trying to lie to themselves, but because the problems are just too big and too many.
I think the big solution is to find out what makes society go from [hard times -> strong men-> good times -> weak men -> hard times] to a balance of hard times and good times where strong men don't allow themselves to become complacent and weak. In an age of such splendid access to information I see it as a possibility that enough men wake up to the reality and make something like that happen.
I think that religion did exactly that in the past, one man laying out a blue print attempting to provide a balance of good times and strong men by creating the religion of hard times. If people don't want to be a part of it there is little that can be done to force them. Civil war isn't what (((they))) want because the cycle of hard times -> strong men would result, a natural coup would occur as a result. Infighting with political parties where the narrative is safely controlled is a more desirable result.
Nice comment. What is your opinion on the fact that historically we never faced this situation. I mean we have no where to expand to. We colonized the whole globe as humans. We always had a place to go, to escape to. Nowadays with the social media etc... It feels a lot like a mouse utopia experiment.
I don't know that there is anything quite like our situation as a whole. There are some situations that have similar aspects that can be used to help match individual pieces.
For example mixing multiple clashing cultures results in one being the winner, either driving off the losers or enslaving them. In the current year person to person violence is toned down to a tremendous degree because of the reach of the State. In European history pogroms would occur on occasion. Today we are on the defensive in large cities, either driven out by gangsters, living too close to the 'bad side of town'; or where we attempt the experiment of multiculturalism we end up paying tribute to the conquerors in the form of welfare checks and unemployment benefits. Where will such a situation continue to develop towards? Expansion of the State is one possibility that has never been seen before, it's hard to say exactly what it might be, but we can read (((their))) playbook like in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or the Kalergi plan to get an idea. Regarding space for expansion I see patterns that have happened. If the State fails to control the population I see 2 possibilities: The Empires of antiquity would have diverse kinds of people all under the same banner loosely working together, but when they fell groups would often band together to form new territories based on common culture, religion, and race. The Balkans provide an example of what happens when no power figure comes in afterwards to unite the people and so they stay relatively isolated and at war with other territories. This seems to be more likely than the last possibility, an ethnic cleansing of millions like what happened in India/Pakistan after the fall of the British Empire. All the Muslims were forcibly expelled from India into the newly created Pakistan.
But what about aspects that have no comparable happening? Some things can be guessed at: In this era of hyper-technology it's all too easy to escape reality. Women can get praise from thousands of people who don't even know her! On the other hand internet access means that the truth is also more readily accessible. It's a two edged sword. The regular populace has never before been so in control over what happens in a nation due to their prosperity. Before such decisions were left to the ruling class while the rest struggled for their daily bread. This meant that when the ruling class finally decided something it would happen, it only required a relatively small handful of people to make choices. In current times the zeitgeist is largely controlled by the (((media))) telling people what to think, who to think about, and when to think about it all. Problem is many people would rather be told what to do than go and do for themselves, good times -> weak men. With the spirit of the times under such control it now requires many men, who have strong wills and free spirits, to change public opinion.
There are myriad issues that plague us currently, I can't say there is a solution to all of it because it is simply too much for me to understand currently. A big issue is that the family structure, and from that social structure, is threatened and must be restored to avoid greater problems. When the Roman Empire fell and no one trusted each other enough to work together there was a 1000 year period of the dark and middle ages. Plus the mouse utopia experiment I'm sure you are aware of to back up the potential society ending effects. So many problems and so few solutions! But if we work together I have no doubts that each problem will be overcome by our combined intelligence. Again, feel free to continue asking questions. I've been told I'm not great at presenting information because I make leaps over what I already understand.
Great bro. So you think the Kalergi plan and (((they))) only want to be done with white people and replace it with non-white people and thats it? They are over with it? It seems very incoherent. Dont you think the plan is to actually enslave all men, regardless of race? That makes more sense to me. But i understand your point and the rational that they would start by Europeans, even though half of Europeans look like mexicans.
There are myriad issues that plague us currently, I can't say there is a solution to all of it because it is simply too much for me to understand currently. A big issue is that the family structure, and from that social structure, is threatened and must be restored to avoid greater problems.
This is where your i think you are falling for a fallacy. It was precisely the family that brought us to this situation. Im not american. But i know america was built initially by men and few women.
The family is what separates free man from civilized sedentary man. The family and the tradcon is what makes men weak, comfortable, lazy and fat. I know there is a conspiracy to further destroy the family. But i dont think a family by itself makes a man stronger, on the contrary.
In all relationships i have been i became weak and complacent. And all men i know its the same. The ones who dont acknowledge this are even more in denial, or never really experienced an LTR or marriage, it is truly bad for you as a man.
Men who start great nations and fight for freedom are single men not married fat men.
You cant stop the downfall by insisting in the same solution that always failed in the past.
Forcing traditionalism when the environment is prone to degeneracy will result in civil war after civil war until there is nothing left. Isn't that what (((they))) would want?
Then thats when religion takes over.
The answer is acknowledging female nature as the problem.
[–]MGTOWThrowaway7771 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do you have a source of her saying she wants men to chase after her?
[–]Rimefang6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I gotchu fam
[–]cleats4u62 points63 points64 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I had a 50 year old woman, casual one time friends with benefits text me out of the blue to stop by and see me. She was on her way out of town to go live with some guy down south she met on Tinder. Free pussy dropped in my lap? No such thing. She came over, spent the night but I didn't fuck her. Something smelled fishy besides her pussy. She had lost her job, she was behind on her car payments. I don't fuck women like that. And wouldn't you know when we woke up in the morning her car had been repossessed from my driveway with everything she owned in it. The tears came flowing, she had no place to go and everything she owned was in that car. I sat down at the computer and printed out a list of homeless shelters. Which one was she going to because I'm not taking care of her. Wound up dropping her at her ex-husbands house and she later moved in with her son because her mom and dad didn't want her. Most women over the age of 40 are in this same boat. I feel sorry for their children who they guilt into taking them in.
[–]gone_my_way26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But look on the bright side, she's both strong AND independent.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's also very courageous for putting up with all the patriarchy while being a single mother!
Motherhood is the toughest job in the world, you know!
[–]Stahlboden18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I woudn't even consider fucking a 50 y.o ever.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What happened to the tinder guy
[–]foolishghost9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He dodged a bullet. Only this once though as he’ll get what’s coming to him sooner or later if he keeps on trying his hand with 50 year old thots.
[–]rebuildingMyself6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FIFTY years old and still as weak as a child. I couldn't imagine being that way and that's imagining after I somehow pissed all my money away like a degenerate.
[–]robowriter2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They try to do what they did when young and it doesn't work. No one falls in with them after a certain age. No one. Feminism just makes it worst for them.
[–]blackierobinsun31 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
she made her bed....
[–]Endlesscube230 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This should be reposted on its own. More people should see it.
[–]CiceroVoltaire43 points44 points45 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
well done.
edit: unfortunately, most women won't read it, and the few that do won't understand it, and will attack the author for being misogynistic.
I raise my glass in a toast to "Indifference"
TIL the word "indifference" really does capture and convey my thoughts, feelings, sentiments toward women.
All facts are misoggybiscuits
[–]RoboMandrake3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As I've observed repeatedly and consistently over these many decades is that women just do not comprehend what a 'limit' is - they just keep right on going.
[–]CiceroVoltaire3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yes, right over the edge into the abyss
[–]SmamelessMe1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Didn't you hear?
So denying women attention is basically rape.
[–]Lord_Teapot35 points36 points37 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
men will simply avoid women other than for a quick fuck
[–]lulz3r30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And even that’s going out the window, considering that sex dolls are an economic threat to legal brothels.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's crazy how many guys I know who have given up on women, even for sex. Some state the old MGTOW mantra that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Others mention horror stories that they saw with their friends, fathers, uncles, brothers, etc... and others state the #metoo movement.
What really surprises me is how early it's catching on. My brother is 10 years younger than me (mid 20's) and he and his friends have given up on women as well. I think back to when I was in my mid 20's and getting my dick wet was very high on my list of priorities.
If men are going this way, this early, women will be absolutely fucked in 15/20 years. Oh well. Reap what you sow.
[–]rebuildingMyself10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Consensual sex with a sexy, fit, enthusiastic partner is an amazing feeling.
Taking all the shit-tests and legal risks required to obtain it isn't worth it anymore.
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[–]DangZagnut23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Are you supposed to really care much?
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[–]yooshio[S] 45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There was about 90 seconds of silence before she spoke again.
That's how long the hamster takes to make one full cycle.
[–]CursingWhileNursing17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
EDIT: Sorry for that wall of text...
Sigh, now isn't it funny that the standard all-purpose weapon of our strong and independent women is to turn the waterworks on?
That's what they all do in case of emergency, that is the standard method to get out of responsibility. And I have become more and more indifferent to female tears, despite the fact that female tears are actually a chemical cocktail actually capable of influencing human behaviour.
I am a nurse and just recently I had a trainee that I was so typical in that and many other regards, she could almost be seen as the archetype feminist. Aged 23, perpetually pinched facial expression, perpetually grumpy and not capable of normal, genial behaviour.
Sure, she wsa diligent, I can't complain about that, but she was also and immensely rude, impolite, stuck-up cunt. Now behaving like this towards me is one thing, but an increasing number of patients began to complain about her. And after a couple of incidents were she was too late for work, reacted extremely pissed to the mere question why that is and then complained why we would always have a go at her for no reason, I had enough.
I took her aside and told her that I won't have it anymore. I told her that yes, she is a quite diligent and careful worker and that I appreciate that a lot, but that the next things that would come to mind if I had to characterise her would be "unpolite, rude and grumpy". She just stood there, face clenched into a fist, demonstratively looking past me, saying not a single word. You could clearly see that my words pissed her off; but did otherwise not touch her. I was not screaming, I was polite and I was mixing lots of commendation into my critique, since I am working with a lot of millenials and already had to learn that normal "rules of engagement" do not apply anymore to millenials anyway.
Then she just stood there for a while, started to cry and ran off, sobbing, without ever even trying to change her behaviour in the aftermath.
I have seen this so many times, I even caught my little niece (which I adore) when she was not older than four when she was practising "crying" in front of the mirror. Again, I can't stress enough how much I love my niece, but to see this was really something.
Men need to be aware of the fact that female tears are not genuine in maybe 70% of all cases. Female tears are a weapon, a tool, a means to control male behaviour and we usually react to it not only because female tears contain pheromones designed to decrease sexual arousal and testosterone levels in men. They are hardwired to act like this, hell, even their tear ducts are wider and shorter than those of men, making it easier for them to cry even on the anatomical level. And us men are hardwired to react to it.
But unfortunately and unlike men women are too well aware of this mechanism and they are abusing the hell out of it. Want help? Cry. Want protection? Cry? Messed up and don't want to bear responsibility? Turn the waterworks on.
And what is pissing me off the most is that women usually react to men crying with disdain, indifference, sometimes cruelty or even exhilaration. And considering how rarely men cry, that most men only cry when they are in a state of absolute state of mental emergency, this is absolutely heinous.
By now I usually react to female tears with either indifference or amusement most of the time.
[–]yooshio[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Well said.
Nurture your nascent reaction towards crying women.
The next level up is a feeling of eroticism.
[–]Vlad_the_imp_hailer0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your anguish sustains me
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
child support payments lol they never actually go to the child.
[–]ThirstySasquatch1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Welcome to the real world is what I would have said haha
[–]NotLuceBree29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Sure I've read/heard this somewhere before.
Either way my one point of disagreement is with the idea that false rape accusations are a post-feminist phenomenon. They're not.
In the Greek tragedy "Hippolytus", the titular character is banished from home by his father, and shortly thereafter ends up getting killed.
The reason Hippolytus was banished?
His stepmother accused him of raping her, to cover for the fact that she was hopelessly infatuated with him.
According to Wikipedia this play was first produced in 428 BC, so the myth it's based on is likely even older than that.
Even ancient Greeks had to deal with false rape allegations, gentlemen. Don't get it twisted.
[–]yooshio[S] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Point well taken, however, the greek women must have learned "false rape" from somewhere. It's as ancient as war and prostitution.
[–]CursingWhileNursing6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am not sure they really have to "learn" it.
Men are hardwired to protect children and women. Which is also the reason why we react so strongly to crying women and female tears (apart from the chemical cocktail they contain). It is at least part of the reason why men whiteknight for women (apart from the illusion they might get some pussy) they don't even know and are willing to even physically harm other men on the mere claim they have harmed a woman.
Women know at least on an instinctive level too damn well that this works and abusing the hell out of it always was part of their strategies.
[–]Vlad_the_imp_hailer1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or the story of Joseph and the wife of Potiphar, from about 1700 BC.
[–]vega-mgtow29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
In this final battle who cares least wins.
I agree almost 100% with what he wrote, except for this sentence.
At the deepest level, the true power in MGTOW is that not only We just "don't care", We also don't care IF We "win" at all.
It is not about defeating feminism as a shit test by holding frame and "caring less". It is about walking away and not giving a fuck if the whole thing burns to ashes.
[–]yooshio[S] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is about walking away and not giving a fuck if the whole thing burns to ashes.
That is the epitome of indifference.
[–]DigitalScetis4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The gender war will not be won with fire, but with ice.
I think the guy basically said that this sort of gender war, one that men did not start, is a war of attrition. And one thing I know is that men have more staying power.
[–]Ohboohoolittlegirl21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The most important part is: Men no longer want to go back to these old pre-feminism standards. Feminism has changed women to aim for things to "empower" them, while it took pressure of men to provide as much.. I have no need anymore to slave away for a "stay at home mom" and I never will. Due to feminism, I would only accept a fair deal, which means: We both work, separated finances, equal responsibilities and tasks.
The thing is: Feminism has brought women to make these changes, made it normal for men of my age to think in these terms. So not only did feminism fuck up the status quo for entitled women who want to do nothing but leech, it also fucked the mindset of the men, who will not think for a second to say NO, to a return to the "old values".. Feminism made a bed of hard work for women, less for men while they pretend it was good for women. I'd be happy to be the "woman" in an old, traditional family setting, where the woman is the one to work 40-60 hours a week.
So not only did they manage to fuck up gender relations, they also made the other side unwilling to work with them, or for them, or alongside of them.
[–]SmamelessMe2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have no problem going to "the old" values and providing for my family. I would actually be more than happy to provide, protect and see my children grow in the best environment I can create.
We just don't think on the same time-frame for "the old". I'm not talking 50s.
But, let me put it this way. If I were to be the provider of the family, I do have the full expectation my wife is there for my "resources". This is real world. She needs to get her children fed. If she's smart, she better select someone, who can arrange that. I have absolutely no problem with that. But the emphasis in "my resources" is on "my". Like in the ways of old, I don't owe her anything, if for some reason she decides to split. Does she want to take the family from me, and fend for herself? That's unfortunate, but I will not stop her. But I also won't support her with my resources any more. The exchange has concluded.
Sadly, marriage / society enforcement has not worked like this for a very, very long time. So I will remain successfully single.
[–]SWFLSlimJim19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s solid gold right there.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This subreddit is getting over a hundred new subscribers each day.
[–]NotLuceBree7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Was just noticing last night that we're at nearly 72K subs. Astonishing how quickly this philosophy is catching on.
[–]RoboMandrake3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When I looked about four weeks ago it was 70.2K subscribers. Today, the subscriber label has reached 71.8k.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
we're at a interesting turning point. because really FREE widespread internet porno, sex toys for men and sex bots are only really 5-15 years old. that is a new phenomenon.
women still believe feminism is working and most women still have faith in their future because the concept that pussy is expensive and special is still widespread throughout society. but another 10-15 years in the same way and it'll be clear it has very little value. the myth of "empowered" special snowflake pussy will disappear and the ONLY thing a woman will be able to offer over online porno and fucking a sexbot is their PERSONALITY. if they really want a good future they need to learn to calm their ego, stop shit testing and actually support the person they are with. i don't have much faith in that happening though unless the girl has a very low SMV.
funny thing is women still hold power over white knights and simps but that tenure of power is ever shortening. what i mean is that, most guys i know these days still fall victim to the pussy pedestal. but thing is now, ONE, girls always give it up the first date now. being a slut is a virtue and most have no respect for their bodies. and TWO, with how easily women give up their bodies and at such a low cost, most men will take the quick short route. escorts or two week pump and dump with no regard for LTR. the days of LTR wives and girlfriends has no economic viability anymore because feminism radically undercut the value of pussy by making every girl a whore. used to be you had to have value to earn the pussy. now girls give it away like free condoms at a free clinic.
[–]re_all14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
(Removes hat)
If only that piece included something about men creating androids.
All the same; I salute you.
[–]necrosnomicon11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
thats a natural evolution, life literally finding an alternative and more viable way, literal synthesis(a new idea resolves the conflict between thesis and antithesis).
thats the only solution I see to this problem, remove women and apply advanced sexbot.
[–]spoopytater11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I can see it now:
"Yessir, this model here comes with a five star rated recipe library preinstalled, PhD level psychotheraputic skills for those dark days, and can be fitted with an artificial womb at a discount if you decide to go with factory installation!"
[–]foolishghost6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Naaaah. I’ll wait until the self-cleaning artificial womb becomes standard.
[–]hellrete2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't you have the non-nagging, polite model? The one that provides confort.exe and supporting.bat . I'll pay extra . /s
[–]DWShimoda11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Either abandon feminism or abandon all hopes of being wives and mothers.
Except... you know what the response of feministy women will be? (Indeed, already HAS been.)
They don't WANT to be wives... the STATE can be their "provider/husband" ...and the STATE can either forcibly "extract" money from men, or else just "print" it.*
As for becoming sMothers -- they're all convinced that they can/will be able to just "do that IVF thing" -- with donor sperm and even donor eggs if necessary; and as for "paying" for it, LOL... they will simply DEMAND that government pay for that too (and yes, the politicians WILL cave to it, they already have in some countries).
The "long game"... yes it will (eventually) FAIL, and thus their children (if they actually have any, via "test tube" or otherwise) will be stuck with the aftermath... but the plain truth is, they're so NARCISSISTIC that they really DON'T give shit about that.
I mean you don't really think that THESE women -- who have very often already killed off their first and possibly second & third+ conceived children -- that they actually CARE about kids (even their own) do you? Seriously???
* Never mind that this cannot go on forever, these women neither comprehend that, nor do they care -- it has and CAN go on for a very long time... long enough that these women expect it WILL last as long as THEY want/need it to. (And they may not be wrong about that... if civilization crumbles after they are gone, they don't give a shit; as for it crumbling BEFORE then, they're pretty certain enough "men" {cucked or idiots or whatever} will nevertheless keep it going.)
[–]Ass_Guzzle3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
If you don't officially work they can't tax ya!
[–]DWShimoda6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Not directly -- at least not directly in the form of taxes on your "wages."
But indirectly... of course they can: it's called "inflation"* and it's a "hidden/invisible" tax on not only "under the table" income, but most savings.
* aka "debase/debauch the currency" -- here's Keynes' own quote on it:
There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
If you build a society that actively discriminates against men less and less men will participate. In the UK men have already started dropping out the gender gap at Universities is at record highs with only 27.2% of males going to Uni compared to 37.1% of females.
I mean why would you bother incurring debt to gain a qualification when due to ‘positive discrimination’ your at the back of the queue due to your gender and race, regardless of how hard you worked. If you are hired you then have to work in a feminised work place where any display of masculinity can get you fired and your at constant risk of being #metoo’d if a woman decides she doesn’t like you or wants your job.
[–]DWShimoda6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Plus -- even disregarding all of the gender/equality bullshit and the #MeToo risk stuff -- white collar/office jobs have been getting increasingly "shittier" over the past several decades (insanely stupid meetings, pressures & micromanagment, all kinds of UNPAID "on call 24x7" crap, etc).
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
It sounds like a terrible work environment, I work in construction can’t get #metoo’d if you do a job women refuse to do. You also get paid directly for the amount of work you do so can’t see them ever perusing this as a career as their mythical wage gap bullshit wouldn’t work.
[–]DWShimoda6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
It sounds like a terrible work environment
It really is.
Arguably it's even worse than what I described above -- especially if you are actually an ethical/moral person... many businesses are increasingly engaged in what can really (if one IS honest) only be called "fraud upon the public."
Of course it is never described in that way, a whole host of euphemistic bullshit jargon is used instead, but by and large the end result is the same: trick/manipulate the customer/client into overpaying for products or services -- particularly on a "multiple payment/subscription basis" -- which they both do not need, often do not want, and are not actually receiving anything like what is claimed.
When you hear media cite the (these days oft-repeated) mantra to the tune that "women are BETTER suited than men to working in today's corporate office environment" -- that's REALLY what they are saying (or unwittingly revealing, at least to those who KNOW what is going on): that "modern" women are inherently either naive/ignorant (i.e.don't really give shit WHAT it is they're being paid for, so long as they're being paid) and/or that they are fundamentally "dishonest/shysters", and in either case have absolutely ZERO problem foisting complete LIES on their employer's customers.
Many things that modern corporate operations do (especially in fields like finance, insurance, real estate, not to mention advertising, media and "public relations", etc) well... suffice it to say that MEN -- particularly REAL men, and especially if still young & SINGLE (and thus NOT "indentured slaves") -- are far more likely to object to, or at least feel "uneasy" about (and thus are a potential risk of "blowing the whistle")... so called "modern" women on the other hand, largely don't give a shit (in no small part because in their own personal lives, they're already long habituated to outright lying, general deception, and euphemistic bullshitting, manipulation & maneuvering -- particularly "bait & switch" so to speak -- as "normal behavior").
Yet again, the very things that feminists invariably accuse MEN of doing/being -- are in fact what they themselves then do as a regular course of action.
[–]DigitalScetis1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah u/DWShimoda, your words are like the spring water.
[–]DWShimoda0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
your words are like the spring water.
Wet, ice-cold, and endlessly running off at the mouth?
;-)
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The entire system is pretty screwed the only way to get ahead anymore is not to play the game. Neoliberalism and deregulation have pretty much reduced people to indebted wage slaves
[–]DWShimoda1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
While the roots of it (obviously) go much further back yet, the worst of it (the more recent insanity) became manifest with Bush I, accelerated with Clinton... and by the time,even before it became Bush II... well it was obvious the downward slide into perversity & insanity would continue.
But by then I'd already long prior done the math, laid my plans, and began executing them in earnest... so that by the time the housing bubble burst & the market crash came -- less than a decade later (and we were given the faux-non-choice of Obummer vs McInsane) -- well... I was already fairly well situated, everything paid off & semi-retired out in my rural "Man Castle" quasi-hermitage... drawbridge raised, porticullis closed & barred, and (to mix metaphors) hatches battened down... ready for the coming shitstorm, and so able to basically NGAF anymore and to ride it out.
Thus nothing that has happened since has really been any major "surprise." (Well, maybe Trump*... still not 100% certain if he's just a temporary reprieve, or a lit and "running" fuse that will trigger an "explosion."**)
* His getting the GOP nomination anyway (thought for certain they'd "Ron Paul" him and we'd end up with another Senator vs Senator non-choice). Of course once he got the nod, then bar ACTUAL election rigging (and is there any doubt that they REALLY tried?), he was the certain winner. (Senators only get elected to be a "new" President when they run against another Senator... when they are opposed by an "outsider", the outsider ALWAYS wins.)
** If they assassinate him (or try & fail) -- and you can BET your bottom dollar that is what they're planning (the shenanigans and the incessant media shitfest are just the overture) -- then all hell breaks loose (trust in God... but keep it "dry" -- and handy).
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It’s all part of the same game the US was heading for bankruptcy with an ageing demographic and a reliance on foreign oil. Mass immigration started under Clinton has provided new cheap labour. Under Bush the development of Shale oil has made the US energy independent again. Under Obama quantitative easing has set the stage for the collapse of FIAT currency. Now Trump is re-shoring the manufacturing industry which will provide jobs and with automation will be cheaper than foreign imports.
Can’t help feeling we’re at the brink of something though this media driven right vs left narrative doesn’t seem normal. Only a few years ago the majority of people I new were politically apathetic, now everyone is engaged and it seems like a powder keg waiting to ignite.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps things will go back to normal in a generation or two.
For the adult men alive now I believe that we are in the heart of darkness and the light at the end of the tunnel is too far away for it to mean anything for us.
Get a vasectomy and GYOW.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I do find it amusing that women think the way to happiness is by going into higher education and beginning a career. As if these are the things that make people feel happy and powerful, instead of being necessities for us to live and support others if need be. No one goes "shit, I want to go $100,000 into student loan debt so I can slave away doing the same thing every day for a corporation that doesn't give a shit." But somehow feminists saw that men were going to college more and working more stressful careers and the conclusion they came to was "wow, that's sexist, we can do that too."
Well, enjoy the reality. Very few people work because they enjoy it. Many men would kill for the opportunity to be some stay-at-home trophy husband who maybe has to cook and clean every once in a while. I already do that for myself, I think I could manage doing it for someone else as well if I have 40 extra hours of spare time. But nope, women have to prove their strength and independence by adding unnecessary stressors into their life. It's like seeing people becoming slaves and going "oh, so I'm not good enough to be sold into slavery huh?"
[–]DigitalScetis5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mary Tyler Moore and Sarah Jessica Parker told them that living the good life involves sitting in city offices banging lots of rich, handsome dick.
So they do whatever it takes to get there...it feeds directly into her hypergamous libido. So they go into debt getting the degrees and taking the internships. It's an investment for her, so that she can land a man making eight figures.
But once they get there, they realize the soul-crushing drudgery that it is. Of course, nobody tells them this when they start out as "strong, independent girls"; they learn the hard way.
And so, they do what the corporatocracy all but tells them to do: spend more money.
Spend money on the latest fashion. Spend money on spas. Spend money on boozing at tapas at local restaurants. Spend money on making yourself dickable. And spend money on yoga/mindfulness/crystals/barre/personal training/therapy, to put humptress dumptress back together again.
[–]denizenoflaniakea7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the most devastating thing is what comes after indifference. Understanding.
A man that knows female nature knows it will never change and if the laws were different and feminism ended tomorrow, evopsych would not.
A man that knows it all the way down knows that there were no good old days. Just male disposability. At best, a poorly rewarded utility.
There is no going back. Men are free now and women will soon have to beg them to choose a boring family life over his freedom and autonomy.
I am of the firm belief that the MGTOW philosophy is the tip of a societal change that will shake the very foundations of the human game.
The future is most definately not what it used to be.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This chap is well spoken. There is one potential monkey wrench. As more men withdraw, women will start placing increasing pressure on the legislature to subsidize their lifestyles, mostly likely by taxing the incomes of single men. Such taxes are already being conceptualized in Europe. We need to get ready for this.
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[–]Ass_Guzzle2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men only minimalist communitys in the future. Can't tax me if I have no income!
[–]DangZagnut2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
amen.
[–]cobaltcolander4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A very articulate commentary. I tried googling for it, but it appears to have been deleted.
[–]scottishsnowboard6663 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Awesome! Couldn’t of described this modern world of inversion better!!!!
[–]rdanders94663 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Brilliantly written and right on point, every single one made. Well done! Thanks for this post!
[–]Joroda2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ding! Nailed it!
I only wish that I could avoid the corporate world as well!
[–]batfish554 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a pretty thought, but we're at 70k subscribers. We just ain't that big.
Now, how many guys are out there that have realized these rules, but haven't heard of MGTOW or the manosphere at large....I can't say.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A great writer indeed
[–]BastaHR2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach it brother. Amen!
[–]user75897284262 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]duong90062 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As many brothers here may do, I agree with most of what the OP (or writer) has written. But personally I think the "indifference" will be not enough in the future. I mean, you see that feminists particularly, and womean in general, have become more and more aggressive with their action, don't you? What will happen at a time when even turning away is considered an assaulting act? You know, men withdraw themselves behind a line, but what if feminists keep pushing the line? Now they're bleeding men by alimony, child support or via tax, maybe. What if they openly demand that every man has to directly donor a percentage of his income, say, each month or each year, to a feminism national or global organization? What will you do if that happens? Edit: grammar.
[–]CerebralAbrasion1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I suspect the victims of feminism will be too entrenched in their own hell to wage a tactical war of attrition. The few who aren't sitting in their apartments and sobbing into their takeout will be the typical naked screaming lunatics.
[–]TA4dYgRpr9CE2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The destruction of the nuclear family is going exactly as planned.
[–]Balgoth552 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Should be pinned.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
+1
[–]StrongAttitude2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good read! I'm Eastern Asian and I'm all by your side white fellows.
[–]cptedgelord1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen, brother.
Rattles cells with night stick Dead Woman Walking... We got a Dead Woman Walking here!
these are the type of people that need Nobel prizes
[–]Loban89901 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much yeah. This should he stickied.
[–]queensackmofk1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, what truth bombs.
[–]TheObelisk1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen.
[–]MesaBoogeyMan1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is like a chapter out of a book on how to GYOW
[–]ClonazolamIsMe1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's always the cucks, the chads, the PUAs, and the ignorant out there who will take these women. Unfortunately, not a high enough percentage of men are enlightened enough to actually go their own way.
[–]MGMOWNow19781 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Beautiful, perfectly written.
[–]squeegypeegy1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A very wise assessment in my opinion. I think that even in my personally life I've seen some of the withering effects the indifference of men is having on marriage and the like.
[–]chalchium0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Except those women who are in 30's 40's would still have absurdly high standards for men...
The only problem I have with this excerpt is that it sounds almost like women realized what they did wrong. No, they know they are unhappy, but not why they are so, and they will continue on the path of self-destruction, even without feminism. Even those who are so called "red-pilled women" are still encouraging on the cock carousel just next door.
[–]mayank-raizada0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But but what about the pussywhipped men who support feminism?
[–]Betterthanuatlife0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Apathy is the last virtue of a dying society. The rewards for tolerance are treachery and betrayal.
[–]yooshio[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Out of context.
[–]Betterthanuatlife0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not exactly. He described men opting out and not playing the game of society, that's is apathetic, not saying it's a bad thing though, when living in a fundamentally sick society one really has no better alternative, as for the second quote, our society here in the west is about as tolerant as it gets, and we are being slaughtered from the inside due to it... either that or I'm just a retard idc.
[–]yooshio[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Apathy is resignation.
When you make a decision to go your own way, a man is going towards something. It becomes the prime mover of his life.
There is an interesting quote that I would consider the DNA of MGTOW...
“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
That is not apathetic.
[–]nbjmcclellan0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey can anyone link me to the sources he draws from? Not to fact check but to be credible when I make statements as to not sound like an ass. Not that he sounds like an ass I agree with this
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[–]yooshio[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
There's always one inbred cunt that discounts the message because of the medium, isn't there?
Why don't you convert it yourself if you're incapable of stupidly processing it.
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