Can anyone tell me what happened to men over the last decades? Has masculinity died?

iPrototypeZ · 2018-09-24T13:23:29+00:00

Urbanization --> men work in factories and offices --> can't teach their sons anything anymore --> boys raised mostly by mom, taught almost exclusively by women --> boys grow into men not knowing how to relate to other men --> stupid lazy male culture centered on drinking beer and watching sports --> fatasses incapable of going outside and doing fun things because of muh knees --> etc. --> what'sthefuckingpoint.jpg

Please_Dont_Trigger · 2018-09-24T15:39:07+00:00

"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times "

Have you noticed that we can't do anything anymore? In the past we knew how to protect ourselves in the jungle, how to grow food, how to hunt and which animals , fruits we could eat in the forest without getting poisoned. Get yourself sedated and ask someone to throw you in the middle of the jungle, could you make it for the next 6 months? I probably couldn't. We depend of companies to everything these days, security, education, health, food. We are weak.

That's why most of my projects are involved to self-suficiency and learn how to do those things without depending on others to do it for me. When I look around me, I only see men looking if their hair looks nice, if his skin doesn't have any acne, taking selfies to get likes on social media, just like girls.

2018-09-24T13:43:30+00:00

Gotta do with the food too. Estrogen and plastics everywhere.

Sir_manalot · 2018-09-24T15:23:20+00:00

It's a byproduct of capitalism honestly. The real power that women have is buying power. In the 80s and 90s, companies realised that men weren't really spending as much money as women were so they started targeting advertising dollars towards them. This in turn shifted society's focus from the household in general and towards the interests of women and children who were the ones generating the most financial returns.

sir_monkfish · 2018-09-24T14:23:13+00:00

Had a burger yesterday at some gourmet-burger-pop-up-store.
Couldn't tell what gender the person who served me was.
Smh.
I might have to go back and look again.

shellbross · 2018-09-24T14:55:23+00:00

Honestly I don't even know what's like to be a man.

Do whatever you like to do. Last weekend I repaired my 78' Chevy Malibu Wagon, smoked cigars and drunk cognac. Weekend before I went river fishing for two days in the mountain and camped in my car.

Live your life, do what you like, and stop worrying.

DangZagnut · 2018-09-24T13:43:53+00:00

So make up your own goals that aren't about worshipping pussy. Anything will do. You have an entire planet to explore.

Yashugan00 · 2018-09-24T14:13:56+00:00

Tap water has gotten 'cleaner'. By which I mean they started adding fluoride in the 60s(?). This has no immediate effects. But decades of build up in the brain does have the effect of making you less intelligent, and also, to answer your question: more docile

thxnwy · 2018-09-24T16:26:34+00:00

Well, if you need objective proof, sperm counts in the western world are declining. Something like 60% less than 40 years ago. It's extremely alarming.

phlegmvomit · 2018-09-24T16:54:06+00:00

I know this isn't really the subject of your post, but this sentence struck a chord with me:

I need to find another purpose, another path because it turned out life doesn't work how I was taught and how I thought.

This is what I'm struggling with. I have tons of hobbies, a fulfilling career, I travel, i have friends, etc. but none of that really gives me a deep sense of purpose. I think for me this is the core of what tempts me back towards the plantation, even though I swallowed the red pill long ago and know that the thought of a family is nothing more than an unrealistic idea that's been sold to me. I've been doing a bit of reading on religion and philosophy lately hoping to find some enlightenment, and that has been interesting, but so far nothing has really helped fill that void. For me this is the biggest challenge of being MGTOW.

the_unseen_one · 2018-09-24T17:30:00+00:00

Why bother being masculine when it changes nothing? It doesn't benefit a man in the modern society to be traditionally masculine unless he's already attractive and trying to get a woman.

BadassGT-CS · 2018-09-24T16:18:34+00:00

I cannot believe the pussies that we have hired where I work. The younger they are, the worse they are. The future looks bleak.

FunkyCannaHigh · 2018-09-24T16:33:54+00:00

Depends, my man. People see masculinity differently.

I work a white collar job but I have also taught myself blue collar skills.

Not that any of this makes me masculine but I think as a man you are drawn to certain things. For instance:

A small group of men that I trust with my life get together once a month to play some poker, sample rare bourbon, smoke a fine cigar and shoot the shit.

Once a year my buddies and I try to catch a boxing match in Vegas.

I hate "new-age" fashion for men. If you want to wear dorky socks and have your dress pants short so everyone can see them, well, good for you. My buddies and I get dressed in actual suits and not the crappy skin type kind.

I belong to a motorcycle group and I wrench on my own bike. Just finished a three hole oil change and flushed my brake fluid.

During the summer my buddies and I try to go shooting every other weekend at an outdoor range near my house.

I work out religiously to keep my body in top shape. I love lifting weights and my friends do as well.

I change my own oil on my car, I replace brakes and rotors, thermostats, etc.

In my house I try to take care of most things. I have put in my own garage door opener, replaced the belt/idler pulley and for my dryer, replaced the main board on my washer and furnance.

I think there are tons of way to be masculine. However, the people that have to prove to everyone else how manly they are turn out to be the biggest soy boys around, in my experience.

I have some skills like cooking that would seem feminist but I could care less. I took french cooking lessons for two years and I can make great meals that will blow your balls off.

Is that masculine? Probably not but I could care less.

Women have switched places with men in our generation. People like us are the outliers and quite frankly, dangerous to the new world feminists are trying to setup.

Masculinity is not a mental health disease nor is it something to be ashamed of. Women will marry a beta later in life, no doubt. However, she is getting stuffed in her late teens/ twenties by alpha's.

If she is still good looking in her 30's when she is married she will cheat and bang an alpha on the side. Women grow resentful of a beta husband even though they are trained to want that.

I can vouch first hand on this. I have values and morals so I will not touch a married woman. However, at certain events I go to for work and spend a week in a hotel you should see the amount of women talking shit about their beta husband's.

Meanwhile, they are trying to flirt with me or another alpha! It's insane!

It is by nature that women want an alpha, a guy who is a little mysterious and uncontrollable by threats of leaving the relationship or withholding pussy.

You can fight nature but in the end it always wins.

Zombocom1911 · 2018-09-24T18:48:22+00:00

MGTOW = we give much less of a fuck about all labels and all definitions that society uses to control people, just live your life as an individual in the way that makes sense to you without letting others and the IDEAS of others influence you, as much as possible

Cringing_Rage · 2018-09-24T17:37:24+00:00

my dad traveled when i was young. not a whole lot, but just enough for my mother to become my biggest role model (years later, a regrettable instinct)

now i’m timid, a recluse, and single. i have no idea how to properly talk to other people (not sure which pill to take yet)

anonymous98101 · 2018-09-24T14:07:37+00:00

There's a good scene on Seinfeld about this:

https://youtu.be/dwkEgKEyBIo

FuhkReddit · 2018-09-25T04:24:44+00:00

Well, little man jobs these days. And the ones that are don’t pay as much.

Then we got the estrogen like chemicals in our water food and air . That’s the biggest problem.

Then we got society claiming men are savages.

All 3 put together make alot of bitches

2018-09-25T08:06:06+00:00

if a man stands up,takes charge,and acts all macho like men in times past did he'll wind up in prison.

Title	Can anyone tell me what happened to men over the last decades? Has masculinity died?
Author	iPrototypeZ
Upvotes	77
Comments	45
Date	September 24, 2018 1:04 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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