This post is dedicated to everybody that helped me on my journey from a Billy Beta to a guy that’s decent in applying the Red Pill. It covers my smoothest evening to date and is the result of nearly two years of practice and failure. Long time red pill readers won’t need my comments but for the newer readers these will hopefully be helpful.

My Background: I’m 22 years old, live in Western Europe and came across TRP in late 2015 after suffering through what was the worst breakup I’ve endured in my full on BP days. That’s when I started going out and approaching women. I watched a lot of pick up videos which introduced me to this concept of how women really work and dug deeper into it as I discovered TRP (The Rational Male was one of the biggest eye openers that I ever had). I always got lucky when trying out new stuff that I read in this forum for the first time. My first opener got me the first date I had after my breakup in early 2016. Thanks to TRP I knew I had to make moves and escalate which led to a kiss and further interest on her part. But my problem during the whole year with every girl was always the same. Even though I escalated the girls always tried to push me in the BF box because I thought “rapport” was telling her boring facts about me (Never give full disclosure – Rollo). As I was always an extremely talkative person I did not have the problem of not knowing what to say, but I surely was uncalibrated, I didn’t realize what constituted a positive or a negative feedback (listen to her actions, not her words). But I tried new things every time I went out and got better over time, especially in 2017 the results got better. One last thing I want to mention is that I’m going to the gym since I was 16. Started at about 155 lbs at 6’0, did my first serious bulk in 2017 and went up to 185 lbs at around 12% body fat. I can’t emphasize enough how different girls act around you, when they perceive you as being physically strong.

The Story: I met a girl (HB8, 19yo) in a local club as we were getting fresh air and she was clearly leaving. It was a kind of warm approach for me because I thought I’d seen her somewhere in university before but I had never talked to her personally before. I saw her leaving alone and went after her and opened with the boring question if she was studying at my university. I took her by the hand and led her back to the entrance of the club where my friends stood and started talking to her. As I was in a good mood all night and had a little bit of alcohol in my blood I was on top of my verbal game and she showed every IOI she had available. She even gave me the green lights saying she was hungry, was going home alone and that she got no obligations the next day. I didn’t realize all of that in the moment but later saw what would’ve been possible. Still I got her to commit to cook for me and played the interaction out as a job interview for which she wanted to apply. (You are the prize) The cocky attitude provoked her to test my frame with questions like “Why don’t YOU try to convince ME? I mean you want me to do something for you!” but I handled it decently. So I took her number and sent her a message the next day. I asked her if she got the recipe ready and she told me she didn’t have time this week but will do it the upcoming week. I replied with the question if she treated all chances in her life like that. From that on the texting was really good but she wasn’t as on as I thought she’d be after the banter in front of the club. We set up a date after I texted “I don’t know what I should think about you” and she replied “I don’t either but maybe we’ll find out” and I told her “Ok let’s find it out” and where to meet me and at which time. (I think meeting up with her later in the evening, 9 pm or later, is better as she won’t have any plans for after the date.)

I took her to the first venue and made some small talk but spiced it up with some little jokes and with breaking rapport (never supplicate and never actively search for common interests, tell her that you won’t get along and DGAF while you’re saying it but have a smile on your face). I paid for the drinks and said she’s paying the next round. Which girls always love. I never once had a girl being happy about me paying for all their shit, my ex BP self wouldn’t realize that though. On the way to the second venue I made it sexual to shift the vibe in the right direction. She said I’m walking fast, I responded she should walk in front of me, she replied “no” and I said “Now I have to come up with a different trick to look at your legs and ass”. Girls hate stuff like that when a Beta says it but love it, when it comes from a guy they perceive as alpha. They want to be a sexual object to the lover type and you must show that you see her as a sexual object so she knows that you are a sexual creature.

The second bar we went to is a favorite of mine for dates, the lights are dimmed and you can sit on a couch or around the corner being relatively secluded. I always sit next to them and especially in the second bar I sit close so I can touch them and play with them better. I did some date routines I got, one where I ask her which type of men she prefers, the good boy or the bad boy, which is really something you can play with no matter what she answers. I did enjoy the banter and it was really fun. You always must stare her square in the eyes apart from turning playfully away from her or seriously turning away from her or giving her less attention when she does something you don’t like. I did something I do almost automatically at the moment which is whispering something sexual in her ear when I get the situational chance for it. I said casually that my lips are big (which they are and having a light attitude towards yourself, not self-deprecating (!), is always funny and likable) to which she answered that hers were beautiful and I got near to her ear and told her with a deep voice that I know and that I asked myself how they’d taste. I asked her what she was thinking (don’t do that if you can’t stare straight into her eyes without flinching during every possible answer because the shittest IS coming if you ask that question but it’s a great way to hold frame. Being unreactive still is the number one key into a girl’s pants, you gotta show her that your world is not shaken by anything she says) as she realized what I did and decided to throw a shittest at me: “I don’t know if I should stay or go. This does not conform to my values.” I responded “You know where the door is and you can go any time you want” with a smirk on my face. “Wouldn’t you hold me back?” “No.” I asked her why she would stay, she said “I think it’s interesting and I wanna see if you’re always like that”. So I actually got her to make a verbal excuse for why she’s staying with me which is a massive IOI on her part. I asked her what she thinks that I am. She said “You are very confident, a bit too confident” as I recognized it as not being a complete shittest but an actual concern, I told her what I got from Rollo “I don’t see myself as arrogant but I do know what my value is”. She instantly got aroused. She responded with something I never could have imagined a few years ago, but is happening more and more often “You are what’s called a fuckboy”. I replied “Usually I get called an asshole but I think I could get used to fuckboy”. Two minutes later she told me that she was not thinking about leaving right now so I told her that I will take full advantage of that and kissed her. We made out and stayed for a max of five minutes longer. She paid while I went to the toilet as I told her to do and coming back I linked arms with her and walked to my apartment. No resistance whatsoever. (I always tell the girl, that she can’t come to my apartment because she would stalk me/has no entrance pass/I have work to do tomorrow etc. early in the evening, so they always get excited if they finally do get to my apartment.) At the end of the night I sent her home, it was around 2 am, and standing in the door she asked me “We won’t see each other again, right? That’s not your thing, is it?” This is always the biggest surprise to me. She sleeps with you even though her logical mind knows she’s not important to you. Her emotions always override her logical thoughts. Only as a side note: I got in the habit of actually caring if the girl is interesting and if I do like her which IMO is really important because you need to have standards (if you are indiscriminate of who you fuck, you can’t be worth a lot yourself) and always be ready to walk away (DGAF attitude). I found that it’s way easier to fuck a chick that disagrees with you in a major way (vegans, political girls, feminists, etc.) because you can make fun of her and tease her as well as hold frame but for me it’s not as much fun if I hate her views and would never want to talk to her in everyday life. (more on that see the post “Field report guide to slaying feminists” from last week on the forum)

I had a problem I’m sure many of you can refer to that night for the second time in my life though. I didn’t get hard long enough to really fuck her good which may have been a consequence of barely sleeping the night before and a long day at work. I handled it pretty well and if this ever happens to you, God forbid, just stay calm, breathe deeply, and don’t try to force anything, an erection is like state, the more you try to force it, the lower are the chances that it’s going to happen. Just relax and do what Daniel Rose describes in the SexGodMethod, immerse yourself. I made the HB8 a plate as of now and had her coming over a few days later and I’m enjoying my sex life for the first time in my life as I have a little rotation of girls going.

I’m still figuring a lot of stuff out. Logically I understand every rule TRP has and all of them do work but a few things aren’t as easy to remove from my conditioning. The number one thing I struggle with is not seeing a monogamous LTR as a goal (Rollo: “Monogamy is a byproduct not a goal”). Another thing is daytime approaching, I know I must do it, but my inner hamster runs overtime every time I try.

I want to thank everybody in this forum for providing value to men. What fathers couldn’t teach us about women, this forum and the manosphere does. Don’t get stuck in the anger phase. Women aren’t consciously doing harm, most aren’t self-aware enough, it’s just biology. You aren’t angry at gravity, are you? Go out and apply what you read, it doesn’t take long before you see results and always remember that it’s about the journey.

For me the best resources for learning game and understanding TRP are:

Rollo Tomassi – The Rational Male The Tom Torero Podcast, he’s a no BS pick up artist who really knows what he’s doing and has a good style of explaining concepts. The Book of Pook Daniel Rose - The SexGodMethod The Sidebar

TL,dr: Went out on a first date with a girl and got her home in under two hours. Result of applying TRP for over 2 years. DGAF attitude, holding frame and leading are the cornerstones of a successful interaction.

Edit: Cut out a few unnecessary words in the last part of the story. Thanks for the hint in the comments.