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/r/Canada learns that women know far less about politics than men and goes full hamster.

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July 3, 2013
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National Post Article

press release from the study

When confronted with scientific evidence /r/Canadians rev their hamsters into overdrive to remain willfully ignorant of the facts.

"How are they measuring political ignorance in the Canadian population exactly? I know it says "knowledge of current affairs and politics" but I'd really like a more detailed explanation of who their sample group was, where they were from, their age etc. as well as what current affairs, whether knowledge of affairs categorically changed etc. There are just so many variables that short articles like this do nothing to explain.

I feel like this is a bullshit thing to test for, and probably says very little about the population as a whole."

"I feel..."

MUH FEELS TRUMP SCIENCE!

This was the only redpill comment. It was of course downvoted to hell.

I love how these studies never factor in biological differences as a possible explanation, instead leaping to explanations that are tenuous at best. The fact that this gap is consistent across countries and average scores regardless of gender equality suggest to me that some of the explanation is simply women being less interested in news as a whole.

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Title /r/Canada learns that women know far less about politics than men and goes full hamster.
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Upvotes 47
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Date July 3, 2013 9:34 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
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[–]t21spectre11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

From the NationalPost arctice

“I think it’s because public affairs is indeed dominated by men. It may be that there is also patriarchal bias, but it isn’t possible to determine whether reality is being distorted or whether it is merely being reflected,” he said in an interview.

This man knows how to keep his career safe from the wrath of feminist groups.

[–]zionController5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was a finely smithed peice of wordery

[–]luxury_banana18 points19 points20 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Men must know more about politics because men are the most adversely affected by politics. There's a reason for example that almost all rough sleepers/homeless are men. There's no social safety nets for men.

[–]anal_cyst9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

and if someone decides to go to war, men are the ones that get conscripted.

[–]QuietlyLearning0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You need to do something with those homeless.

[–]anal_cyst7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

you got it backward. first the young men get conscripted, then the war breaks them, then they come back homeless.

[–]BorMato2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Or they have a home but find their whore wife fucking the neighbour and then divorce, and then he loses everything and theeeennnn.... homeless.

[–]blueice5474 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sadly this happens more than most realize.

Source: Vet who saw it happen to at least 6 dudes when we came back.

[–]BorMato2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It makes me so mad even thinking about it.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan35 points36 points37 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Unless its something to do with women like abortion or the welfare state 99% of women could not give a fucking shit about politics. You've got a demographic of women who care about environmentally friendly shit too, generally middle class women who love animals and shit, nature-types. There's some nerdy chicks out there however who can debate a wide range of politics and not just environment/abortions/welfare state shit, but they're an exception rather than a trend.

[–]Big_Man_On_Campus10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I honestly have never met such a woman. All women I've met are either willfully ignorant of such matters, or they haven't thought critically about who they're reading AT ALL.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've met a few before and they are a joy to be around. Hit up bookstores and cafes.

[–]r_rships_account0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've met a few, but they're all over 70.

[–]_Molon_Labe_0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great for a good laugh, listen to some Tom Leykis: Chicks on Politics.

Most women can't name the mayor of their city, one supreme court justice, the vp of the US, or any of Obama's current cabinet members.

[For the record, most men can't either.]

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

We all knew this abundently well from experience. It is nice to see someone actually checking this out in a study.

EDIT: I forgot to mention before, it is really annoying how anytime there is a disparity it is always "bias" and "male privelege" and such other bullshit. The reality is, women don't put the work in to inform themselves. Never is there a call for more personal responsibility, it is how can we blame men for the problems women bring on themselves. Or perhaps it isn't even a problem, but a real biological difference.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anecdotes don't mean much, especially when they are not PC.

[–]jeff_jizzr4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are, far more than women, creatures of the abstract, the objective, and of the understanding and contextualizing of large scale systems.

Women are creatures of the particular, the specific, and the subjective.

Women, solipsistic as they are, give little thought to society as a whole, except when attempting to secure advantages for themselves.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's fair to ask for more data on a study. I just don't think you should dismiss a study simply because you don't want to believe it. Ask for the extra details, get the extra details, then decide if it's solid or not.. don't just complain, dismiss it as sexist, then ignore it. That's not a solid way to build your world view.

Stuff like this, I'm never too sure about. Yeah, I think in general, women hold less of an interest in politics and news. If a woman wanted to learn how to debate/consume/produce opinions on politics, nothing would stop her. They just usually don't.

Opinions?

[–]toddgak[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

There are obviously female politicians, some of which are well versed in different ideologies and represent both sides of the political spectrum. I also think it is valuable to have women in politics even if its just for their alternative forms of perception.

Statistically speaking though, most women would see politics as irrelevant because it doesn't affect them directly enough. They also have no interest in the ideology because they see its influence for change directly tied to the politics itself. Women have powerful perceptions within their own realities, but their reality consists mainly of what is in front of them in the moment. Politics and world events are usually too far removed from their bubbles to make them relevant. The only thing that can penetrate the bubble is an event or ideology that can connect on a emotional level. For instance, finding out a village in India is skinning little puppies alive and boiling them into stews is far more significant to the average woman than NSA wiretapping or the president of Bolivia having his civilian plane grounded because of US suspicions.

To take it even further, Esther Villar would say the reason why women lack the will to consider the greater implications of events or ideas is because they have removed themselves from the responsibility of choice. They much rather prefer to hide behind men who will gladly suffer the consequences of the choices on their behalf. I personally think this is why women are much more courageous than men; without considering the implications of choice, they have the courage to do things men wouldn't even dream of.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I agree with this completely. I definitely feel comfortable saying "women have the potential to become politicians, but they are not often interested in it". It bothers me, because so many people will read into what I'm not saying, and assume I mean "women lack the ability to become politicians". So I am sure to be articulate in the way I phrase my opinion about such subjects. I think you did a damn good job, so thanks for that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The data is available on the press release. You can find the main study on that page. Gender and politics was just one part of it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Geez, the data was available right there and she still had the nerve to complain? That's something else.

[–]suppository_lover7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

You need to put np. before reddit.com on all of your links, because brigades are bad and plausible deniability. Here's the first link as an example.

www.np.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/1hk76f/women_especially_in_canada_are_more_ignorant_of/

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Fixed. Thanks.

Too bad SRS doesn't have to play by the rules.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Have any of the admins ever justified why SRS doesn't even need .np posts yet all other subs do?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This site was coded by Leftists for Leftists. The media company that owns Reddit is very PC.

[–]angelothewizard1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

One of these days, someone's gonna nuke them. An admin's gonna be just pissed off enough to see SRS, see the crap they do, figure out what it is, and go "LAUNCH THE NUKES!"

[–]MartialWay11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Except some of the Admins are SRS.

[–]anal_cyst2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

SRS is run by a handful of goons from something awful. my conspiracy theory has always been that one or two of the admins are closet goons.

[–]angelothewizard1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Which will make the eventual nuking all the more amazing. If I had one fantasy about Reddit, it's the nuking of SRS. And boy can I dream.

[–]MartialWay2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They've already got a back up site explicitly for them to organize and continue harassment activities. Would be a small setback, that is all.

[–]Solvoid-1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

what does the np do?

[–]anra2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nothing really.

[–]suppository_lover2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It gives the reader a "read only" version of the page, so it will hopefully discourage individuals from voting and posting on the linked thread. However, people will do whatever they want, but encouraging .np to be used is the best option.

[–]iseeyou13121 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It really doesn't do anything, but it is there in an attempt to stop our sub reddit being banned.

[–]alfredosauce852 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The majority of the girls i knew growing up, were the insecure, daddy's girl bitchy types, kind of dumb, very jersey shore-ish, however went to university, kept there mouths shut and did what was needed to get there degrees and become "educated". However on univsersity campuses you'd come across girls that are "up to date" with politics but tend to be hardcore, ultra-politically correct, femininits, that would over analyze every word in your sentence to find out if you're oppressing her. On the contrary, every once in a while you'd run into a rare breed of attractive, aware girl that is up to date with issues and can actually hold a convo.

[–]betaprime1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now, as an exercise for the reader, what does this imply about democracy and universal suffrage?

[–]angelothewizard1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh god, this one is a gem (It's an NP link, don't worry)

[–]iLevity1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can someone explain to me what "Hamster" means?

[–]Deldar2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First quote is legitimate, healthy skepticism of methodology.

[–]zionController0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Based National Post, the only periodical willing to report objectively

[–]NINETY_30 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It really isn't a surprise that men are generally more interested in politics than women. It's for the same reason they are more involved in "public life" in general.

For the majority of human history (and if chimps are any indication, many of our pre-human ancestors as well), precarious encounters with "outsiders" would have invariably been dealt with by the males of a given tribe.

When the shift toward settled life came about, living with the aforementioned outsiders became a practical necessity. Such living arrangements are not analogous to the older, smaller tribal groups which mankind had previously lived in.

Given all of this, it would be quite natural for men to continue in the similar engagement of political activity, or at the very least having a more significant interest in such matters.

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