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Years ago in a bar I was having a drink with two war buddies. We're sitting there, bullshitting, having a beer or two, and one of my friends says hello to a girl he knew from college. She comes over and chit chats with him for a few minutes and is introduced to the other two of us. Of course, she calls another one of her friends over (presumably to hook her friend up) with one of us. Her friend comes over and pulls up a bar stool to our table and wants to chirp in on our conversation. After telling us she works at "wherever", she asks us:
"So you guys have been to combat, right? So, if you can take the life of a child in war, don't you think that's the same thing as Abortion?"
Now, I want you to imagine a girl who's easily a decent '8' on the looks scale. Makeup, high maintenance, great body, nice skin, the whole package. Now imagine the dumbest sounding girl you've ever seen. Like the girls that do the news segments on campuses because they're protesting "whatever". That was this girl. Just absolutely the dumbest piece of shit I've ever seen.
One of my buddies couldn't believe she asked us that. I spoke up and said "We're not having this conversation. Guys, don't even respond. We're NOT doing this. You can go away now. We're done here."
Little Miss Abortion justifier gets VISIBLY butthurt about being rejected. Tries to badger us into a nonsensical argument to justify abortion versus collateral damage in Iraq. We refuse to debate or talk to her and shut her down. My friend finally tells her "Look, leave us alone to drink our beers and seek life elsewhere. I'm gonna throw a fuckin' drink in your face if you don't leave us alone"
She became UNGLUED, and started hysterically yelling about us not wanting to talk to her. Her friend finally pulled her away from the table as we told her to get her away from us.
That was my "realizing" moment. I realized that this dumb broad had never been rejected by some guys that were decent looking (I'm not Christian Bale or anything, but I did well...). For that matter, she'd probably never been told "No" at any point ever in her life. It changed how I perceived women that have zero personalities who manipulate men because men are simps that put pussy on the pedestal. Women don't face nearly ANY rejection from men. It was oddly satisfying, even in that moment to see a hot girl who has NOTHING to offer but her pussy to Chad and Tyrone, get shut down for probably the first time in her life.
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Had a similar moment of realizations. Certainly nothing this extreme, but just an indication of how different the expectations are for the respective genders in regards to rejection or the word no.
The first was during grad school. I am also no Christian Bale, but for whatever reason many of the women in my grad department ended up having a thing for me. I have never ever been interested in women until I get to know them as friends first, so I was brushing off advances whenever I saw them. This resulted in one of the girls going to her friends and complaining that I wouldn't date her, which resulted in them talking shit on me to other people in the program and defriending me on all social media platforms (which I thankfully no longer have).
The second instance was even more extreme. One of the girls I had become friendly with in school basically sexually harassed me for a year, including unwanted physical touching that extended to psychological manipulation and social threats. I had told her I wasn't interested multiple times, but she insisted on touching me constantly. When I asked her to stop she told me "you have a problem with touching and you need to see a therapist about." There was one time she was staying at my place on the couch and crawled into my bed unwanted, pushing up against me. When I told her I was uncomfortable, she cried and told me that I was insensitive and that a true man wouldn't say that. The unwanted touching continued and I kept telling her it made me uncomfortable. At this point, she started informing me that she had been telling our shared grad professors (for whom she babysat) that I was leading her on and that "they all agreed" that I was being a jerk. So, here I was, dealing with repeated physical attention from a woman I wasn't interested in, being psychologically shamed when I didn't comply and then basically being told that, by not complying, I was diminishing myself to professors who had the power to impact my grades in school. I'm sure no one thought anything of it, because I was a guy and she was a woman, but at the time I was really uncomfortable with sex in general due to having been raised in a really conservative family and wasn't in any way "casual" in my way of thinking about intimacy. It messed me up psychologically because I felt scared and guilty for not complying, and began to see her as the victim. It took me years to figure out what happened there wasn't my fault. Last week, this same girl bravely posted a #metoo about the one time a high school professor complimented her clothes. Imagine if a man had done to her what she did to me....
In my most recent relationship, the same shit happened constantly. One week, my girlfriend was training for a half marathon and canceled our plans every single day, often at the last minute. Like an idiot, I sucked it up and didn't say anything That Saturday we had plans for her to come over and I decided to surprise her with a big spaghetti dinner. Due to her unreliability, I made sure to confirm on Friday afternoon. On Saturday, I text her and ask her when I should pick her up. She responds by telling me that she has decided she should stay closer to home and then, without consulting me, asks me to drive to her place instead and gives me a list (complete with times) of things she's decided we'll do when I get there. I, having spent forty bucks on pasta, am just not having it and politely say "oh, sorry. I was planning on staying around here today per our plans. I totally understand if you don't want to come, though. I'll see you at your race tomorrow!" She immediately responded saying "if you won't come have dinner with me, I guess I'll go find someone who will" and then refused to answer my texts or calls for two days. She even texted me telling me I was forbidden from attending her race.
So, see, she could cancel every plan we had for the entirety of a week and expected no repercussions. But when she canceled AGAIN and I had the nerve to just not go dutifully along with the new plan, I didn't even deserve her attention or company and was punished with threats of her going out with another man. That's how the mind/game/world works.
In none of these situations was I even blunt or insensitive. I tried to be kind and explain myself thoroughly. Yet, these things occurred because I had the nerve to not give a woman exactly what she wanted when she wanted it.
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Wow, that sucks. Honestly, it sounds like a very similar experience to my own.
I loved her very much and will admit that she had certain problems that influenced her behavior, but all of the qualities you describe were there. Much like your girlfriend, she was aloof from pretty much day one. She'd cancel AT LEAST two plans a week even if things were going well, because everything in her life (working out, picking up nail polish, seeing friends) was prioritized over me. She knew I'd be there, so she didn't see the value in catering to me. I tried to be understanding of all that and more, but any time I wasn't perfect or she thought I did something wrong, she'd shut me out for days or weeks, be incredibly critical, and threaten to ditch me.
My girlfriend was fond of telling me about all the male friends she had who were in love with her. Once, when she was mad at me, she went on "hiking" trips with a friend whose name she wouldn't disclose. I tried to even be cool about that, deciding to trust her. Up until she just decided not to answer my texts for a couple days, at which point I questioned why. She went into a huge rant about how I was "keeping her from people." So the stalker thing resonates with me.
And, you know, my girlfriend ALSO was on her way up professionally when I lost my job. The day after the last time I ever saw her, she took the LSAT in preparation for law school. I thought even at the time that she was riding high on the belief that she was destined for big things, saw me struggling, and decided I was no longer good enough for her.
That sort of thinking sickens me, but I realized it's how the world works. I'm sorry for your pain. It sucks to learn these things in such a way, but at least they make you less vulnerable to something similar in the future.
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God forbid one of these guys had the misfortune of accidentally killing a child in the line of duty. I can't even fathom someone saying that shit to me. She basically called them baby killers. Unreal.
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Terrible Thirty Two’s.
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