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Yeah, I'm in the same demographic as you. Ya know, the race/gender combination with the second highest suicide rate in the USA (behind only American Indian men, and I fully support them getting all the help they need).
/r/MensRights25/05/26 05:36 PM
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Also your search returned exactly the same results in both cases, just in a different order. No, it didn't. No page for men's mental health exists (let alone as the first result). Here are all the results on the first page: https://imgur.com/a/X9weVRJ It's the same on Google. Searching "women's mental health" + my provider gives the women's mental health page as the first result. There is no page for men's mental health.
/r/MensRights25/05/26 05:30 PM
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In theory a mixed group would be great if people could actually be honest with each other. That of course will never happen in a million years. You've got me curious about finding a men's group, though.
/r/MensRights25/05/26 03:01 PM
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Ha, thanks for the laugh
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"Considered a great catch" = death knell
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 06:28 PM
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This has nothing to do with "ignore/marginalizing her behavior and manipulation". It's about the exact opposite of that. It's about recognizing it for what it is, and knowing the best way for you, as a man, to respond to it, and live in this world with it. The man's response in the image that you shared is just about the worst way to respond to it. He both refuses to recognize that his behavior is unattractive, and then acts like he is a victim (as opposed to wising up and learning from his puss…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/18 01:23 PM
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So let me get this straight: this guy RIGHTFULLY is upset because his FRIEND did not "allow for any romance to bloom". And he is owed "romance" because he "picked up the pieces with her" after she got pumped and dumped over and over again, because "all he has ever wanted to do is love her, treat her right, raise a family with her, be a good husband and father". Am I understanding that correctly? This guy is a perfect example of why the "nice guy" and "incel" slurs have come about. I mean, what e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/18 11:58 AM
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Based on the little info that we have, the guy sounds pathetic. She owes him nothing, just like we will owe her nothing after she hits the wall. Some "nice guys" deserve to be mocked, and this is one of them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/18 12:31 AM
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For sure. I don't even know why this was posted on this sub. Men like the one in the message deserve to be roasted, just like women who want to settle after riding the carousel should be roasted here.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 09:37 PM
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The issue here is that you should never date a woman who tells you that she is getting over another man. She's literally telling you that you don't give her the tingles. She wouldn't have said that to Chad. This guy never had a chance to begin with. Nothing to do with commitment here, other than he never should have even considered it, ever.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/18 07:24 PM
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Well by the standards of r/relationships, in 2018 it's now perfectly acceptable to frequently attend gang bangs and blow random dudes in bathroom. Technically these are now "old school values".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/18 10:51 PM
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Man, you should get paid to write this stuff, it's gold
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/18 10:48 PM
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"I'm not that kind of girl anymore"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/18 10:46 PM
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LOL, I love how the morale of her post is basically, "Thirsty men will fuck anything with a vagina, regardless of how much you weigh", as if that is some kind of accomplishment. I mean, good for her feeling good for herself, I guess. She's not being cruel to anyone else for no reasons so I'm not going to insult her. I'm just not really sure what the point of her post is. That men's standard's are laughably low?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 08:50 PM
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She just got drunk and fucked up her "secure betabux" plan. It's hilarious. The best part is how she she will have to break the news to her family. There is no way she could possibly tell the truth to them. "Honey, what happened? You said that things were going so well! Why would he break off the engagement?" "Well, Mom, Dad...I told him that I used to participate in orgies and blow random guys in bathroom stalls when I was blacked out drunk in clubs." "Oh..." Of course she won't say that, she'l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 07:56 PM
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Yeah, it's one of two things. One is she deceived him for the whole time because she knew he was judicious in his sexual behavior, as well as in his preferences for partners. The other is that she is ignorant (this is what she claims to be true) and sees nothing wrong with her behavior and assumed he was the same. To me it's pretty clear that she deceived him and let the truth slip out because she was drunk. Although if she was legitimately ignorant, that's would be an even better reason to run …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 04:27 PM
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If a "real man" is supposed to be [fill in the blank], what is it fair to demand of a "real woman"?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 03:31 PM
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The irony is that their shrieking about "a woman's sexual past shouldn't matter" is itself revealing of their own shame. If they really didn't give a shit about being a whore, they wouldn't care how society viewed them. They would go on whoring it up without giving a second thought, pursue men who did not care about their sexual history, and ignore the men who did care. However, the obviously do know that they have done something that invites disgust, and they are ashamed of it. They see their o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 03:16 PM
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She deserves so, so, much more than this close-minded, stunted emotional midget. TBH she sounds awesome These comments based on nothing more than the fact that she likes orgies and having sex on toilets in nightclubs. let herself get fucked? That sounds like you see this as her giving up herself, like people took advantage of her. She probably had loads of fun having sex in the bathroom and going to orgies. "If you let yourself get fucked in a toilet"...This wording implies that she somehow didn…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 03:03 PM
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Is it really doxxing? She did an AMA where she said who she was.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 02:45 PM
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I checked out her post history, this woman was actually a contestant on the reality show Big Brother, and she looks nothing like those photos. Google "megan big brother 19" and see for yourself.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 02:10 PM
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LOL...good insight. It's just bizarre to me when people treat a degree as a status symbol, rather than something educational, or a requirement for your career advancement. It's even more bizarre when people, primarily women it seems, hold it up as something that is supposed to attract a romantic partner. There are so many posts from women in the "Dating Over 30" sub that say "I have a Master's Degree in [fill in the blank]." Who told them that their degree was supposed to make a man desire them?…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/18 03:26 PM
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For sure. Sort of related, I've always wanted to read an honest AMA or an article from a post-wall woman who was completely aware of that transition. Like, what was the moment when you realized Chads stopped looking at you, and were looking at younger women? And when you realized that you're going to have to settle for Billy Beta? I mean, all cock carouselers have this realization, but most of them rationalize it in a "I decided that I'm not that kind of girl anymore" kind of way, as opposed to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/18 03:16 PM
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Why do I see so many women holding up their post-graduate degree as if it's something that makes them better than you? Sometimes it's done in a subtle way, and other times (like this) it's shoved in your face. But they act like that piece of paper entitles them to...well, pretty much everything. Better job, better partner, better treatment. I mean, I know that women in general feel entitled to better treatment than men, but that graduate degree takes it to a whole different level.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/18 03:04 PM
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This is my favorite part of the post: Finally, at the end of August (two weeks or so ago), I called him up and broke it off...like everything in our relationship, he was receptive to it. It's funny how this passive aggressive insult is dropped in there. Men today have been beaten down so much that anything short of complete capitulation to everything a woman wants is considered "toxic masculinity". Yet here this man is mocked for being "receptive" throughout the relationship, including being dum…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/18 02:21 PM
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Ha, it's a Neil Young song. One of these days I'll make a post detailing the thottery of my Ex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/18 07:28 PM
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They just cannot fathom why a woman wouldn't want to be with somebody that thinks they are entitled to sex/rape I had an Ex who was an "alpha widow". She would go on and on about how handsome and fun and charming Chad was. She would regularly deny me sex. She told me "In the past I've had sex when I didn't want to. I want to avoid that with you." So basically, she was cool having sex with Chad when she wasn't "in the mood", because she knew that he had options and he would bolt if she didn't suc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/18 06:50 PM
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I swear, every woman there says "I am an excellent catch." That's like putting in your dating profile "I am confident, smart, funny, loyal", etc. They seem think that if you write it, it must be true.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/18 01:22 PM
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I finally watched video.This was the best part: "I'm lonely...I don't want to vet all these people." I don't think I've heard a more telling statement from a modern women. They don't want to have to do their ONLY job as a woman: find a suitable mate. Men throw themselves at you 24/7, 365 days a year. Your one and only job is to find one who will stick around, take care of themselves, and not treat you like garbage. They want to fuck whoever they want without having to deal with any of the conseq…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/18 09:32 PM
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I mean really, even if we take this woman at her word -- in what was is a woman's "wisdom" supposed to turn me on, or at least make me want to be in a relationship with her? The ONLY way I can imagine this being a positive thing would if this woman was approaching a man who bad been badly burned by woman, and she herself had been "played" by men, and she had come to see that she wanted to treat a "good man" well, as opposed to rewarding the "bad boys". But we all know that is no woman's intentio…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/18 03:59 PM
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These women admit that they themselves dated older men while they were in their 20's. They enjoyed an advantage over post-wall women when they were younger. Now that they have hit the wall, they condemn the young women that they are competing with as "not knowing what they really want" and not worthy of older men's attention. They have "wisdom", not "baggage". Oh and of course you are "immature" or otherwise "flawed" if you are still chasing after women in your 20's. Life comes at you fast when …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 11:32 PM
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Exactly. The same woman brags about having a "degree from Harvard"...more evidence that university does not teach common sense. She went to one of the best universities in the world, and still can't figure out why men don't want women like her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 11:28 PM
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LOL, there is some dumb bitch who had this to say about "baggage": Baggage is just [a woman's] life lessons and wisdom put into the grinder of sexist language. Sucks to date someone on an equal footing, right? No, you dumb cunt, you are not on "equal footing" as a post-wall angry feminist.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 11:06 PM
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Jesus Christ, what a retard. There is also some question I answered with "I prefer to date people around my own age" that he answered as "I prefer to date people younger than me." I get the basic gist of this, that women in their twenties are more youthful and fertile and may have less emotional baggage. What I don't understand is how most women (and people in general) I know acknowledge that they barely knew who they were in their 20s. I don't think I had a deep understanding of my wants and go…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 10:17 PM
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I don't see the nuclear family ever being widely celebrated again. We're too far gone. Celebrating the nuclear family is now essentially viewed as an attack on single mothers, single women who are in no hurry to get married, and women who don't want to have children. That is such a huge constituency in 2018, and one that is so protected by the media and entertainment industry, that it's impossible to even touch it without being excoriated.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 03:43 PM
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Yes. For example, there's no doubt that she cheated on him. Women like this always have "exit affairs" on their way out. That part was conveniently left out. However, Chad cheating on her had to be inserted ("Richard was repeatedly unfaithful, and I never felt secure enough to start a family with him. Eventually, after three-and-a-half years together, he walked out, having admitted his latest paramour was pregnant by him.") Curiously though, his unfaithfulness and abandonment is nothing more tha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 03:34 PM
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Absolutely this. There's nothing more attractive to me than a woman who was given nothing but takes care of herself and is working at a humble job (at a restaurant, supermarket, etc.) with a great attitude.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 01:35 PM
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This article is a goldmine. Thank you OP for sharing. A highlight: My parents were horrified that I was walking away from a man they felt was right for me. My father's words to me that day continue to haunt me. 'Karen, think carefully about what you're doing. There's a lot to be said for someone who truly loves you.' Wisdom from your parents and grandparents is just brushed aside now. Instead, women will just look to confirm their attitude with their cock carousel-riding friends, or in articles …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 01:23 PM
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What a mess we are in. My gut says that part of the answer is to be militantly efficient in teaching sex education in high school, but really the issue is parents. Or 'parent', if the mother did a shitty job choosing a father, or screwed him over so badly that he had no choice but to bail. I've always been adamantly pro-choice, but now I wonder if that is just encouraging the irresponsible culture that we are in. I'd like to think that if women have no choice but to face the consequences of thei…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/18 12:59 PM
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I think MGTOW is a great lifestyle but a terrible online community. Granted I'm only familiar with r/MGTOW, but I assume that's a fair representation. It's full of humorless, angry men who think they are helpless. Indeed, encouraging them to get their shit together and take charge of their life is discouraged. For a sub allegedly about "going your own way", they spend a hell of a lot of time whining about women. MGTOWs in the "real world" are much better company. (I make a distinction between th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/18 12:14 AM
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Reminds me of how everyone went crazy over Trump saying "And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." Case in point here. Women publicly admits she would make herself sexually available simply due to a man's celebrity status. But everyone clutches their pearls when a man acknowledges this truth.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 05:44 PM
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Open hypergamy at that. Women don't even hide it anymore. They brag about a near-miss meal ticket.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 05:29 PM
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What is "liberated sex" for men? I've never seen it used in that context.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 03:57 PM
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I was actually stunned to see some good advice from others in your post. Hookup culture has not benefited women, at all, as other women there pointed out. But no, getting pumped and dumped has nothing to do with "manosphere fodder", as some idiot femcel told you. That is retarded. Hookup culture only exists because of "feminism" and "sexual liberation". Women are free to go out and have as many one night stands as they want, and give up their bodies for nothing. Congratulations. But you're not e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 01:24 PM
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It's almost correct. 20% of men have sex with 80% of the women. That is a well documented fact, it's called the Pareto distribution. So it's not true that only 20% of men are having sex. However it is true that they have many more partners.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 01:07 PM
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Call it what you want -- there is no question that white men have an advantage over the non-whites in getting laid.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 06:59 PM
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Eh, I'm going to push back on that. I live in a developing, non-white country that nonetheless has a lot of white tourists and white expatriates. Below average white guys make a killing here, with girls 10x hotter than what they would get in the USA. Granted the "privilege" that they get may be short-lived -- they get access to pussy that the average native/non-white men won't, but for most, it's only a matter of time before they're revealed as Billy Beta and the woman branch swings to the neare…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 06:44 PM
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Thanks for your response! As much as I cringe at the SJW use of the term "white privilege", this is one dynamic where it is absolutely applicable (and naturally receives zero attention from the "diversity industry" because it's an unflattering view of women of color). I have to say though, I always respected Indian families in my region of the USA. Obviously my experience is completely different than yours, but the Indian families where I grew up had traditional values (almost like old-school Ch…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 03:48 PM
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I'm fascinated by what you are saying about Islam, but I don't completely understand. How does liberalism make it more difficult for them to lock down a beta provider? Thanks for your input, I'm always curious about how these dynamics work around the world.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 03:24 PM
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Anyone else remember how Trump was raked over the coals during the debates for "rating women on a scale of 1 to 10"? How is that any different from what this woman is doing?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 03:05 PM
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I'd love to hear a SE Asian man's thoughts on this. They are basically the lowest on the food chain. They have almost no chance of being Chad if they are in the West or in an otherwise racially diverse city. It's either become the best Billy Beta you can be or MGTOW.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 02:55 PM
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It's amazing to me the value a 30-year old woman with two kids thinks she has. What does it take to humble women?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/18 11:33 PM
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She wouldn't hesitate to crawl over broken glass to fuck a Trump-supporting Chad. Granted, she wouldn't want that relationship to be public. But in a hotel room on a private resort, her "values" go out the window. That's why feminism is bullshit, in a nutshell.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/18 03:27 PM
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Why does everyone woman have the "[insert adjective 1]. [insert adjective 2]. [insert adjective 3]." profile description? Always an attempt to look humorous and cultured. Winds up being a heads up to ignore them. And who are these men that are attracted to women who advertise themselves as cunts?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/18 03:21 PM
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She is issuing a challenge to the Billy Betas who get off on rescuing women. It's just one of the many variations -- "I've been played so many times, who is the man who is STRONG ENOUGH to treat me like a princess and handle me at my worst?"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/18 02:00 PM
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If she was "worth the wait", she wouldn't be a single mom of three in her 30's on a dating app looking for a bailout. I mean really, what does she even mean by that? I spent the last 5 minutes trying to figure that out, and I can't even guess what she genuinely believes that means. I actually feel some sympathy for this woman -- her position in life is not an enviable one at all. But she is being dishonest with herself and any potential suitor.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/18 01:57 PM
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For sure, it's really confusing. "Nice" could reasonably be interpreted as "asexual". You are trained to not desire sex, or to cultivate masculine qualities that are sexually attractive. You are supposed to "be yourself", and "yourself" must be docile and obedient to whatever the woman in the room wants. Is it any surprise that the "manosphere" was born in reaction to this? And yet society condemns any attempt at cultivating masculinity, i.e. moving beyond being a "nice guy". Society demonizes "…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/11/18 12:22 AM
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Their opinion on the Kavanaugh ordeal is a good litmus test.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 09:51 PM
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Ironically, you can’t solve that problem (or any problem) if you can’t be honest about it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 09:50 PM
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LOL yeah I hesitated to mention fourth wave. I hate to make any distinctions at all in feminism but I wanted to give some credit to feminism prior to third wave. Camille Paglia has some very interesting things to say.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 08:19 PM
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I think it's fair to write off every woman who goes out of their way to label themselves a feminist. But certainly there is more variability in women who might answer "Yes" to randomly being asked if they are a feminist. Hell, there are shitty women out there who DON'T identify as feminists. Not all women are awful human beings, just like all men aren't. But third and fourth wave feminism has undoubtedly had a negative effect on society, for both men and women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 07:51 PM
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I had a realization about this. Feminists are basically the female “nice guys”. They want the sexual marketplace to be dictated on their terms. They think everything they do is OK “because feminism”, and don’t want to be held accountable (“slut-shamed”) for being a whore. The other side of the coin is “nice guys” who don’t want to be held accountable for not having sexually desirable traits, and rage at women who won’t fuck them even though they do [fill in the blank].
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 07:02 PM
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Sorry you had to go through that. Thanks for sharing your wisdom here. I would be completely lost if I’d never discovered TRP and MGTOW. Although I don’t visit those subs anymore. For whatever reason this sub is the perfect combo of wisdom and humor.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 03:05 PM
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Have you posted your story somewhere? I’d be curious to hear someone from here do a post-mortem on their 20-year marriage.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 02:54 PM
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Simply recognizing this woman’s behavior for what it is gets you labeled a misogynist.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 02:51 PM
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Yeah. Never again. Especially now that I'm at the age when women are hitting the wall (or already there), and looking for a beta to carry their baggage. No thanks, it's not worth it. I am mostly beyond anger, thankfully. I do enjoy this sub though -- it is really funny when you see women hitting the point in life where they realize the fun and games are over, and their poor choices hav caught up with them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 09:00 PM
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I remember my Ex's best friend gushing over me saying "I'm so happy you're with her. She deserves a good guy." I should have known then that the relationship was doomed. I was the "Nice Guy" standing in, in between the "toxic relationships" she really desired.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 08:51 PM
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Men who want relationships are men who do not have options. Men who do not have options are not desirable to women. Men who women want have options because women want them. Men are not complicated at all. You are projecting. This was a really insightful comment. (Strangely it was removed by the mods -- it seems to be right on point for a Red Pill sub).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:14 PM
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Great post, thanks for sharing. I'm sure that feminists rage at you for doing this, but they would do the exact same thing to men who posted anything remotely "sexist". It's only sexist when men screen women like this, apparently.
/r/MGTOW15/08/18 08:42 PM
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It's funny you posted this. I watched the first several seasons of The Office years ago and I've been re-watching clips recently. I never realized what cuck Jim was until now, now that I've had several relationships with women. Jim is the ultimate "Nice Guy". IRL he wouldn't have had a chance with women as hot as Pam or Karen because he's so weak, and if they did give him the time of day, they would have eventually cheated on him and used him for every penny that he was worth. I really do say th…
/r/MGTOW05/08/18 09:53 PM
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Keep us posted. I'm interested in hearing how this turns out, how you handle it, how she handles it, etc.
/r/askTRP18/02/18 09:38 PM
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Keep us posted, man.
/r/askMRP18/02/18 05:53 PM
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I see nothing wrong with waiting until the 2nd (or even 3rd) date for sex. In a way this shows you have abundance mentality...you don't have to pressure a girl into sex on the first date because it's not a rare or dire commodity for you. You can take it or leave it. And yeah some girls feel like they presented themselves to you as a total slut when they fuck on the first date, and will then ghost you due to those feelings. Of course some girls don't care, especially if you turn them on enough.
/r/askTRP17/02/18 10:45 PM
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I think every man has that 1 girl that burned them bad enough that the mental scar won’t heal. Good observation. I've had a number of women in my life but there was "that one" who brought me to TRP. That sort of makes us the male equivalent of the "alpha widow".
/r/askTRP16/02/18 09:09 PM
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"What would you do If I were a rapist?" What the fuck?
/r/askTRP14/02/18 12:51 PM
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This is what I'm doing. Also OP, be careful quitting masturbating for the sole purpose of finding someone to fuck. Especially as a virgin, you'll probably wind up settling for whoever will fuck you, which could easily be a low-value woman.
/r/askTRP13/02/18 05:09 PM
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My experience with NoFap is it just makes me horny enough to want to fuck anything. That's not good for me because I have very poor self-control. So I'll fuck a HB5, and then immediately regret it once I've had an orgasm. Meanwhile there she is, still in my bed. I should have just jerked off instead of asking her to come over. That being said, I am taking a break from watching porn. I think it has fucked with my head, and there are plenty of real studies that show that watching porn can have a n…
/r/askTRP12/02/18 09:54 PM
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Amen to this. A 29-year old wouldn't be saying this shit to Chad. "I thought you were a selective guy" = "You seem a Billy Beta who I can reward with sex when I feel like it". She knows Chad never waits for sex, and that he'd drop her if she didn't put out. You don't fit that description for her.
/r/askTRP12/02/18 09:40 PM
1

If she wanted your dick, she'd be giving you more signs than that.
/r/askTRP11/02/18 06:58 PM
13

Lifting and income matters. You can be charming as hell and have decent natural looks, but women will usually choose the guy with bigger muscles and more money.
/r/askTRP11/02/18 06:16 PM
0

This article is a classic. I've read it several times as well and think about it on a regular basis. Granted this is a rather extreme example, as most girls don't do gang bangs. But I'd wager that almost every girl with a promiscuous past that settled for a Beta Bucks husband didn't give her sexual best to him. You have every right to be judgmental, just like women do. Use that judgment to decide whether to LTR a girl or marry her. But you cannot turn a ho into a housewife, period. Likewise, you…
/r/askTRP11/02/18 03:48 PM
-1

Because they want a high value man? Don't you want a high value woman?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/18 10:27 PM
5

If she's doing this shit now, it's only going to get worse later. You shouldn't put up with anyone, man or woman, who will talk to you like this. Clearly she thinks she can talk to you like this and get away with it.
/r/askTRP10/02/18 06:31 PM
23

Could you elaborate? I’m interested in hearing your story.
/r/MGTOW10/02/18 02:13 PM
6

You have recognized what experts call the "thousand cuck stare"
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 07:35 PM
2

The Thousand Cuck Stare
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 07:34 PM
1

We've got Adam Carolla too
/r/TheRedPill06/02/18 10:40 PM
2

I was going to say the same thing. Go to another country on vacation and do it there if you have to. You'll stop putting it on a pedestal so much after you fuck a pro, and you'll avoid getting oneitis for the first girl who fucks you.
/r/askTRP05/02/18 09:09 PM
1

You know the saying "the opposite of crazy is still crazy"? The opposite of being an extreme Christian is still being an extremist. Don't go there. I was "mentally forced" to go to church and all that in my youth and went the complete opposite direction in my 20's. I wasn't going to atheist events or any stupid shit like that, but I surrounded myself with people who were nonetheless very anti-religion, and honestly I would take the people I met in church any day over them. Your parents definitel…
/r/askTRP04/02/18 11:29 PM
0

Is there a sub like MGTOW with less angsty incels? I understand that they need a place to vent but it really brings down the quality of the sub.
/r/askMRP04/02/18 09:47 PM
2

Ha I'll give you a follow too, keep doing God's work
/r/askTRP04/02/18 01:53 AM
2

Sure thing man. At least you're out there trying to get some action and you've got a sense of humor about getting rejected. In the end having a positive attitude about rejection is more valuable then fucking a cow.
/r/askTRP04/02/18 01:48 AM
2

I don't think it had that much to do with your income disparity. Fat ugly bitches with good incomes fuck unemployed men all the time. She probably just thinks she is hotter than she actually is, and somehow you reinforced her perspective throughout the date. Don't take it personally. Fuck a slumpbuster whose ego you won't inflate to get your head on straight.
/r/askTRP04/02/18 01:40 AM
5

You're the definition of an orbiter. Cut her out of your life and game girls you actually have a chance with. In fact, cutting her out of your life may actually give you a shot at fucking her, but don't ghost her with that intention, that would just be a bonus. Either way she needs to go.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 07:20 PM
1

Spotify can cause depression? Come on.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 05:11 PM
1

Great post. Reminds me of a couple of great quotes: "Beware of wisdom you did not earn yourself" and "What you do not know yet is more important than what you already know". Experiences like this are things men must go through to internaliz. You can read all the field reports on TRP, but you've got to really get punched in the nose to really get it.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 02:36 PM
17

Good for you for getting your shit together, reading and lifting at the age of 18. I didn't wake up until I was 30. Some other guys don't wake up until their 40's, 50's, or perhaps never. The advice is simple: never stop hitting the gym, pursue a career path that is going to earn you good money, and keep practicing with women. You're only 18 years old. Almost every man alive wishes they were 18, single and red pill aware. Don't waste your opportunity.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 02:07 AM
7

Roger Sterling
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 12:47 AM
1

I don't understand what you mean, or how it's related to the red pill at all.
/r/RPChristians01/02/18 11:44 PM
3

Go to r/gainit. You can put on weight. I'm in my early 30's and never thought I could put on weight. I've put on 15+ pounds in the last 7 months or so. You can do it, you just have to eat a ton and lift weights regularly, and stay vigilant in your motivation. No excuses.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 09:36 PM
1

Thanks for sharing.
/r/RPChristians01/02/18 01:26 AM
3

So you think the whole concept of "spinning plates" cannot apply to Christian men in any capacity? Isn't spinning plates basically TRP 101? I've read somewhere in TRP literature (maybe Rollo Tomassi?) that spinning plates doesn't even necessarily mean having sex with women, but simply interacting with women in a way that helps you maintain an "abundance mentality". What are your thoughts on that? Also realize that the success of a relationship depends on the man. So true...I've learned that the …
/r/RPChristians01/02/18 12:49 AM
13

Sounds like my ex-alpha widow's ex. We can sit here and split hairs over the definition of an alpha male. The fact is men like this can get away with murder with a beautiful woman, lie, cheat, humiliate and disrespect, and she'll still crawl over broken glass to suck his cock. That's an alpha male as far as I'm concerned, sociopath or otherwise. Who knows if that's a fulfilling life to lead. Doesn't matter to me or you, at the end of the day.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/18 11:19 PM
1

Good point on Uriah, I forgot about that.
/r/RPChristians25/01/18 09:08 PM
2

Well the topic of discussion is "hypergamy in the Bible", which allows for many different angles. You don't think David was mate guarding? I mean, he had his competition murdered. I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on that. From what I've read about Bathsheba, she didn't really have an opportunity to exercise hypergamy, based on the little information we have about her. Though again I'm happy to hear all points of view.
/r/RPChristians25/01/18 07:50 PM
1

Awesome, thanks for the response. This leaves me pretty confused by the video's interpretation, which seems to be really far off from yours. Which is really strange because this video series is one of the most popular on the Bible on YouTube, as far as I can tell.
/r/RPChristians25/01/18 07:37 PM
1

I'm happy to hear other interpretations, but from the little research I've done on Bathsheba, it seems like she was basically coerced through power to have a sexual relationship with David. It almost sounds like she was raped. On top of that, David basically had her husband murdered. That sounds like an extreme and ancient form of mate-guarding. If anything the whole thing sounds like the opposite of hypergamy to me.
/r/RPChristians25/01/18 06:29 PM
1

LOL drunk homeless guys? Come on. I get your point though, money isn’t everything, but it’s definitely ONE of the things.
/r/askTRP21/01/18 10:31 PM
4

I'm not married but I love this sub for posts like this. Thanks for posting this.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/01/18 02:24 PM
1

Check out Jordan Peterson...he explains it better than anyone.
/r/MGTOW19/01/18 03:25 PM
2

Yeah. Honestly I had to look away after reading your comment because it is painful to read, but it is true. And really, internalizing the truth is one of the things that has saved me. It's painful to know that if I were married and more handsome and wealthier and more fun, my Ex would have fucked me like a porn star and crawled a mile through broken glass to be with me and try to convince me to leave my wife, regardless of how I treated her. But nah. I tried to look good and take care of myself.…
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 10:30 PM
1

Ansari is a celebrity Billy Beta. He tried to fake being Alpha and got called on his bluff.
/r/askTRP18/01/18 09:43 PM
5

I think we're saying the same thing, it's just a small discrepancy in the numbers. There is actually a power law probability called the Pareto distribution which is widely accepted as true across many different spheres of human accomplishment. But the gist of it is that 20% of any given sample group will reap 80% of the benefits, and this is generally accepted as true in male/female sexual relationships as well.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 06:56 PM
13

Oh boy, that's a good one. Thanks for sharing. I've got a similar story. The last girl I dated was in the midst of a year-long relationship with a married man when we started dating. When she revealed this to me, she let slip that she "had no chance" with that man. That should have told me everything I needed to know...she wanted to be with me because she knew she "had a chance" with me. But I didn't know any better at the time, I was too caught up in the emotions. She "ended" that "relationship…
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 06:33 PM
13

Spot on except I’ve seen the numbers pegged at 20/80. Also polygamy isn’t necessary. Women will stay with a high value man who cheats.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 03:56 PM
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Sad but 100% true. You just left out how the wife gets sympathy from everyone in society before/during/after the divorce, and husband is shamed for not being able to satisfy her and not being “man enough”. The only way to win this game is never get married and never depend on women for any kind of emotional fulfillment. I don’t say this bitterly, just making an obvious observation.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 03:52 PM
14

Not necessarily. Just the richest one who would commit to her.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 02:50 PM
113

You were her choice. But you weren't her first choice. You were the last pony on the Cock Carousel. The only one who would commit to her, put up with all her bullshit, be her wallet, punching bag and emotional tampon.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 02:08 PM
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Before I started dating this one girl she proudly told she was “kind of a slut”. This was meant to suggest she, as a feminist, believed it was a double-standard that men can have sex with lots of women and not be criticized, but women can’t. I ended the relationship a couple months later after she was going on and on about the guys she had fucked and how she didn’t think cheating was a big deal. She broke down crying because I had made her “feel like a slut”. Ladies and gentlemen, this is femini…
/r/MGTOW17/01/18 03:58 PM
18

I know what you mean. I grew up in a very traditional household and then spent 10 years or so in the bubble of academia, so I got a good dose of both extremes of white knighting for women. I think when you've been so indoctrinated by feminism, you have to be burned badly before you wake up. What's shocking to me is reading stories about guys who have been used and abused beyond anything I've experienced, and are still faithful white knights. I'd like to imagine that Aziz Ansari has been Red Pill…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 02:56 PM
1

100% this. Just look at the responses throughout various subs on Reddit which are generally Blue Pill as hell. Even some of the hens on the TwoXChromosomes sub are clucking about how this story has crossed the line of #MeToo, whatever that is. But at the end of the day, the Blue Pill media and the vocal minority of cucks and green-haired feminists will control the narrative of this story and every other accusation of sexual misconduct. The only mainstream articles I've seen that come down hard o…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 02:27 PM
1

Upvote for honesty. TRP is about reality, not bullshit white nationalist scaremongering.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 06:57 PM
1

“He wouldn’t let her move away from him.” This sounds like complete bullshit. I’m sure it was something more like “I wasn’t ready for my date with a celebrity to end” rather than “He was physically preventing me from leaving”. Not that my opinion matters, I’m just a man, after all...
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 04:10 PM
2

And any media that strays from the narrative is branded misogynist.
/r/RPChristians12/01/18 07:03 PM
3

I would also add that the vast majority of women and all beta males/“nice guys” are actively and openly trying to tear down any man who doesn’t abide by their ideology. Waking up to this reality is essential to survival for many men.
/r/RPChristians12/01/18 05:19 PM
2

This. OP, read The Rational Male book. It addresses all your questions better than anyone here could. You’re only 23. You’ve set yourself up really well for career success, which is a great start. Start a workout routine if you haven’t yet. And don’t stop. Work on gaming women, but don’t go exclusive with anyone. You’re going to make mistakes and feel like an idiot sometimes but it’s a learning process. Lots of guys would kill to be in your position. Practicing some gratitude would go a long way…
/r/askTRP09/01/18 06:22 PM
1

Everything is about sex. Except sex.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/18 06:26 PM
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I believe the woman on the right is Mariska Hargitay (she's in other photographs with him too, looking very chummy with him). The irony of her cozy relationship with Weinstein is that Hargitay founded the Joyful Heart Foundation, which provides support to women who have been sexually abused. Hargitay knew what was going on with Weinstein the whole time. She had no problem using her access to him to try to prop up her career, while pretending to give a shit about sexual abuse victims in public. T…
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 08:27 PM
2

Why even bother? People like this have no place whatsoever in a man's life. Certainly "telling it as it is" is an attractive trait for a man to have. But there is no value in giving a woman like this any attention.
/r/RPChristians05/01/18 12:29 AM
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I would add that marrying young isn't necessarily a blessing either. I'm 31 and am eternally grateful that I have not married yet. I used to be jealous of friends and sibling who had gotten married...now, not so much. I can't imagine a worse fate than marrying any of my Ex's (I'm also familiar with BPD women), losing years of my life to that misery, and heaven forbid having children with them. There are some great things about aging as a man: 1) Your looks can improve with time if you take care …
/r/RPChristians04/01/18 11:09 PM
3

I think you're making too big a deal out of virginity. It's one thing if it's a girl who hooks up with any guy resembling Chad who buys her a drink. It's another thing for a girl who has been in a couple relationships, or even had a couple flings. I certainly wouldn't want to be dismissed because I'm not a virgin. It's part of growing up. But that doesn't excuse all red flags. Speaking of red flags, RUN, don't walk away from this girl. I just got out of a relationship with a decidedly non-Christ…
/r/RPChristians04/01/18 10:18 PM
3

This is why so many women find themselves sexually uninterested in their husbands, developing a common misperception that women are generally less sexual than men. Do you really believe that women are equally or MORE sexual than men? From what little I've read on the subject, I thought men are biologically predisposed to want sex more than women. Not that that changes your point about the misconception that women are vastly less sexual.
/r/askTRP04/01/18 09:22 PM
3

The thing is, I'm extremely scared that she won't actually do a 180 and instead just tell me to fuck off or straight up cheat on me or something. This is exactly where I was with my last LTR. I wasn't so scared of her telling me to fuck off, but terrified of her cheating on me but continuing to see me (and I had plenty of reason to believe she would do that). That relationship taught me a lot. You have to assume that any girl can and will cheat on you. If you think that a girl has a particularly…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/18 07:02 PM
3

You can go through certain trauma and lose most of your empathy Yeah, that's where I'm at. I was so blue-pilled, it's hard to stop giving off that vibe to women. I've been through enough shit with women that I'm like a hardened police officer, and I can still play the perfect beta guy. But I'm handsome enough to make women want to fuck me. Anyway, I can say all the right blue pill stuff to make them think I'm harmless and would never pump and dump them. As soon as I dump my load on there face, I…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/18 06:50 PM
1

Fair enough. The only reason I have any positive things to say about women is because I have had some relationships with women of "good character" who, frankly, just didn't meet my standards in terms of sexual attraction. I'm definitely open to the belief that women are, in general, more duplicitous than men. I'd wager that's a result of evolutionary instincts and feminism. Certainly you can NEVER let your guard down and get lazy physically, professionally or game-wise if you are going to saddle…
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 04:25 PM
1

I think we would be in agreement that the most attractive women are driven to seek the most attractive and most wealthy men with the best game. They don't care about character, and haven't had to work much on developing their own character. All they've had to do is look pretty and that has opened an infinite amount of doors for them. Then there is every other woman out there. Certainly there are women who are comparatively less attractive who are also shitty human beings. But I definitely believ…
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 03:41 PM
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Agreed, the LTR stuff isn’t MGTOW but this guy didn’t specify what he wants. The advice for getting laid is solid though. Women aren’t just going to fall onto your dick, especially if you didn’t win the genetic lottery.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 04:09 AM
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What do you want? If you just want to fuck someone, lower your standards. Only ridiculously high SMV guys are fucking the super attractive women, and they aren’t worth the headache. Work on your body and image. Learn how to game women and deal with them. Get turned down and get thicker skin. Make enough money to take a girl out for drinks. It’s not rocket science. If you want a relationship, settle for a girl you’re not afraid to walk away from, and who you can live with walking away from you.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 03:45 AM
1

I don't understand your quote. Can you please explain? Are you saying that a man who "cares" for his wife doesn't matter to her? And a man (Chad) that "doesn't care" about her DOES matter to her?
/r/askMRP27/12/17 09:47 PM
1

Well, ideally if you are truly Red Pill, you will not have covert contracts as it relates to sex. You wouldn't have to resort to doing, or thinking you have to do [fill in the blank] so your [one night stand, fuck buddy, FWB, LTR, wife] will fuck you. Ultimately some compromises must be made the further any relationship progresses. But the goal is to never feel frustrated thinking "I did XYZ for her, how dare she not want to fuck me!" I posted this thread several months ago, the top comment link…
/r/askTRP27/12/17 02:29 PM
8

Seriously. Her dad thinking you are “decent” does not get her pussy wet.
/r/askTRP27/12/17 02:55 AM
2

The basic premise is an unspoken agreement "If I do X for you, you should do Y for me." Covert contracts exist in virtually all facets of life, but as far as we're concerned on TRP, it often has to do with sex. Some common examples are men who believe that because they provide financially for their partner, listen to all her problems, do all the work around the house, take her out to dinner on Friday nights, etc., their partner should have sex with them (or beyond that, WANT to have sex with the…
/r/askTRP27/12/17 02:14 AM
1

Early 30's here. I spent most of my 20's paying off a ton of student loan debt and didn't even think about dating, let alone marriage and kids. I hooked up with a lot of girls in college but didn't fuck a single girl while I was paying off that student loan debt. After about 5 years I finally paid it off and got back into the game. I've had a couple LTRs since then and some flings aside from those. I'm not jealous at all of the high-SMV guys who are married with kids. I know I would be miserable…
/r/askTRP27/12/17 02:01 AM
15

Pity the beta who's going to ltr her. Ugh...been there.
/r/askTRP26/12/17 09:00 PM
19

I'd like, obviously because a year has been invested, for her to drop everything, but I am more prepared to cut her off right now. Sunk Cost Fallacy. Look at it another way: you could stick around longer, wait for her to REALLY disrespect you, and wish you could have all of that time back. Do you want to make a commitment to a girl who texts other guys at 3:00 in the morning? I don't.
/r/askTRP26/12/17 12:34 AM
8

That's the irony. Pre-MGTOW all we wanted was that dream LTR, and when we get out we wish we had that time back. That said, the lessons learned are priceless. Just be thankful you didn't waste more time than you did. I can't imagine losing decades of my life and tens/hundreds of thousands/millions of dollars.
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 12:20 AM
2

Same story here. I wouldn't call myself "Chad" but I've got 30+ notches on my belt. I've been burned by a few women and have broken several hearts myself. I admit I admire the men who can settle for a decent but unattractive woman, or those few guys who can tame an attractive woman and maintain frame. I just don't think I'm wired to settle for a woman I'm not sexually attracted to, and my past does not suggest I can maintain frame with a woman I am sexually attracted to in an LTR. I'm slowly acc…
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 11:49 PM
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NEXT!! Merry Christmas fellas, here's to a great 2018!
/r/askMRP25/12/17 03:01 PM
1

Work on being grateful. It's a constant effort but it's worth it. I'm 31 and single, and am grateful I'm without kids and single. Sure, it would be nice to have a supportive and beautiful wife, two or three kids, a nice house and a great job. I don't have any of those things and there's no way I could have attained them up until this point in my life. The best I could have done would have been a disrespectful, unfaithful wife (or a clingy, unattractive one), a child who I didn't have the money t…
/r/askTRP24/12/17 08:40 PM
3

Good observation about MGTOW, although I think your numbers are off, at least in respect to the sub on Reddit, which is the only forum I have experience in. There is some good stuff there but way too many angsty incels. Your last sentence sums it up very well for me. I like fucking women but I'm so tired of their volatility and games and expectations.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/17 11:28 PM
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"Beware of wisdom you did not earn." I think Carl Jung said this. You can read TRP all day long but you need to see this shit in the trenches for it to really sink in.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/17 10:40 PM
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Sorry to hear that this happened to you. As others have pointed out, this is a great opportunity for you to learn and grow into being a better man. You posted elsewhere: Is she worth fighting for, or is it a lost cause? What kind of woman do you want to be with? Do you want to be with a woman who has cheated on you, and obviously will have no problem cheating on you again? She took a shit on your marriage. She had options to address whatever shortcomings you had as a husband, and the option she …
/r/askMRP23/12/17 10:26 PM
2

Atheist women are just as self-righteous and annoying as religious women.
/r/MGTOW23/12/17 12:38 AM
6

On my phone, wish I could send a longer reply. Something that helped me a lot was watching Jordan Peterson’s Psychological Significance of the Bible series (also his Self-Authoring program). It’s really important to reflect on the relationship and see where you were weak. Also take it from me, never date non-Christians if Christianity is important to you.
/r/RPChristians18/12/17 02:03 PM
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You’re getting some pushback but you make a good point. If you’re using Tinder and all you’re looking for is a fuck buddy, drinks near your place is the easiest way to accomplish that. Getting a milkshake at the zoo doesn’t send the same message.
/r/askTRP16/12/17 09:52 PM
1

Stay strong man. Check out r/exnocontact for additional support. Lots of great people there, it helped me immensely.
/r/MGTOW15/12/17 02:32 AM
1

Sounds like you're on the right track. Karma absolutely exists. If you haven't already, check out Jordan Peterson's lectures and Rollo Tomassi's book(s). These things helped me more than anything in 1) getting over my breakup and 2) my road to personal growth.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 12:11 PM
1

You’re a better man than me
/r/TheRedPill13/12/17 11:19 PM
1

Usually just a few months. Guys like me and OP have just enough alpha in us to make women want to fuck us, but they really like us for our beta qualities. That's why they expect commitment from us (and are angry when they don't get it), whereas they'll fuck Chad eternally without demanding commitment from him.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/17 09:22 PM
1

OP doesn't come across as someone who could create an alpha-widow. I'm a lot like OP, women fall in love with me very easily because of residual beta conditioning mixed with just enough alpha. I've learned to dump them before letting them get too emotionally invested (to avoid guilt on my part), which leaves them angry and confused because they thought they had their beta provider with some alpha traits. IMO a true alpha wouldn't even give off the beta provider vibe, and would keep fucking these…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/17 08:15 PM
2

After watching Jordan Peterson's Bible lecture series, it's amazing to me how relevant scripture is today. People like to dismiss the Bible as antiquated and irrelevant today, but stuff like this (and many others) is more helpful than ever.
/r/RPChristians12/12/17 07:28 PM
1

Thanks for your kind words. Best of luck to you, and trust your instincts.
/r/RPChristians12/12/17 12:05 AM
1

I consider myself a Christian in the loosest sense, and am very, very slowly growing in my faith. Even though I'm not very active in my faith, my values are deeply rooted in Christianity and the older I get the more I am drawn to the scripture. With that said, I was listening to a sermon recently and the pastor said if you are a Christian, never, ever marry a non-Christian. I couldn't agree more after years of banging my head against the wall in LTRs with non-Christians. Even if you just want to…
/r/RPChristians11/12/17 11:58 PM
8

Dad was disappointed you didn't fuck his daughter?
/r/askTRP10/12/17 02:17 AM
3

I hope so. I glanced over the post and saved it for later too. I've almost married a couple of BPD women, your post looked very insightful.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/17 12:33 PM
2

I also recommend venturing over into the marred redpill subreddit for some gems scattered throughout there. I couldn't agree more. In fact I read MRP/askMRP much more than I read TRP. Not only educational but a constant reminder of how lucky I am to have not married any of my ex LTRs.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/17 02:26 PM
7

Exact same for me. I couldn't stop reading TRP stuff for weeks, even months after I escaped that awful relationship. Very much like a treatment, combined with something like a Men's Group to discuss my problems. It's been 7 months since the breakup and there are diminishing returns on coming here daily. I think it's a good idea to check in weekly though.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/17 02:43 PM
1

Yes, this is what has been running through my head but I haven't been able to piece together. On the one hand I felt pretty good about not letting this woman order me around. On the other hand, dying on that hill wasn't worth not getting laid, considering how low the investment was. Granted if I had known she was going to bail when I said that, I would have just sucked it up and taken her shit. You live and you learn.
/r/askTRP19/11/17 05:44 PM
1

Great advice, thank you
/r/askTRP19/11/17 04:41 PM
2

Well, now you know.
/r/askTRP19/11/17 03:45 PM
2

I would say that holding a door, giving up your jacket, carrying something heavy is a little different than being barked at "hold my purse" and following that order. Either way, thanks for the feedback.
/r/askTRP19/11/17 03:38 PM
9

Yeah, this is true. It's hard to not go Rambo after being a chump for so long. Definitely could have just laid the shit on the table. I'm working on being assertive through my actions rather than through words, could have handled it better last night, obviously.
/r/askTRP19/11/17 03:26 PM
4

Definitely more of an order. To be honest I could see myself holding something for a different kind of girl if she was sweet and polite, but I’m not going to be bossed around by a brat like this.
/r/askTRP19/11/17 02:58 PM
1

Yeah, maybe she's used to everyone, men in particular, following her orders. I'm not too torn up over it, it felt pretty good to say no, for once. Either way, I'm curious what people think here. Thanks for your feedback.
/r/askTRP19/11/17 02:23 PM
1

Yeah...I've replayed that conversation in my head a millions times. So many things I wish I would have said to her. I was so humiliated. To my credit I broke up with her moments later...to my detriment I let her back into my life. You live and you learn...
/r/MGTOW13/11/17 12:23 PM
2

She is/was single. She was essentially a plate for a married man, but was very emotionally invested in the relationship. Obviously any woman who would get involved with a married man is terrible LTR material but I let my emotions get the best of me.
/r/MGTOW12/11/17 05:32 PM
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When I finally ended it with her, she accused me of leaving her for another woman. Oh the irony. She was "the other woman" in a relationship with a married man, and defended herself for doing so (and him for cheating on his wife) until she was blue in the face. Suddenly she was the paragon of virtue when thinking that I was capable of leaving her for another woman. I'm still recovering my sanity from that nightmare of a relationship.
/r/MGTOW12/11/17 03:12 PM
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My Ex left her "toxic relationship" with a married man to be with me (she was single). She said she was still in love with him but wanted to be with me in spite of that. A little while after we had begun dating, she was in my bed one night and started going into some details of that relationship. Basically masturbating in my bed over the guy, talking about how hot and fun he was, defending him for cheating on his wife, telling me she couldn't guarantee she wouldn't cheat on me, and shitting on m…
/r/MGTOW12/11/17 12:45 PM
1

Totally agree.
/r/MGTOW12/11/17 12:35 PM
2

Am I wrong for liking the idea of properly settling down one day and no longer needing to keep up the facade of TRP in the fear of losing my woman? Everyone likes that "idea". Especially men. (Most women ARE able to do whatever the hell they want without the fear of losing their pussy-whipped man). And perhaps some men are able to realize that idea to some degree. But many, many, many men get suckered into that "idea" and then get utterly destroyed. Check out r/survivinginfidelity or r/MGTOW or …
/r/askTRP05/11/17 08:26 PM
1

She still has brought up wanting to sleep with other people in the future, for both of us. Wow. I know it's much easier said than done to walk away from an LTR, but that would be a dealbreaker for me at this point in my life. You're 30 as well. Is this really what you want out of a relationship? A woman already making plans, mentally or otherwise, to branch swing to someone she perceives as "better" than you? I guess some men are fine with that, including MGTOWs who fully subscribe to the "it's …
/r/MGTOW05/11/17 01:06 PM
2

Great first thing for me to read in the morning, thank you.
/r/askTRP05/11/17 12:52 PM
14

Be a woman who never learned how to do anything except open her legs
/r/MGTOW05/11/17 03:12 AM
11

Finally starting to realize this. It wasn't that long ago that I was forcing myself to go out every night and feeling miserable if I didn't hook up or at least get a girl's number. It wasn't that long ago that I was letting my Ex treat me like a wallet and a doormat just so I could have the "privilege" of having a girlfriend and getting dead fish sex as she disrespected me and planned her branch swing. I'm still approaching women occasionally because I do enjoy sex, and yeah it stings a little w…
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 04:08 PM
3

I guess the difference with me is, I really don't care that much about having "good sex" in terms of the woman having the "experience" to provide that. As gay as it sounds, the emotional part of sex has always been more important to me than the mechanical part. I've been with lots of girls with plenty of experience and it just gets old for me when there is no emotional connection. I've lived my whole life avoiding calling women whores for exactly the same reason you pointed out, i.e. it being a …
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 05:49 PM
3

You don't feel any guilt over being with women who are married or in LTRs? Not judging you, just curious. My most recent Ex was a plate for a married guy prior to our relationship and I was never able to get past that. I was never able to get over the disgust of her basically being a whore. I reserve the right to feel that way about someone I choose for an LTR, but I also know on some level that I need to get over myself and stop being so self-righteous. It's a really hard thing for me to get ov…
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 05:07 PM
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Man, I know what you mean. I would love to be a father and I know I would be a great one, but finding a woman who A) I'd want to raise a child with and B) Wouldn't just treat me like a wallet and punching bag just seems impossible and not worth it. I see so many stories here and on r/survivinginfidelity of men who either left their wives after 10+ years of marriage and her cheating, or who miraculously stay with their unfaithful wives. They say their wives make them want to blow their brains out…
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 11:59 AM
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I'm 30 was in the same position this year. I broke up with my Ex months ago after realizing I don't deserve to be treated like doormat and a wallet just to get a shitty attitude, starfish sex and the rare "good times". Especially when I know that if/when she cheated on me, that guy would be treated so much better than me and get all the passion that I wasn't getting. It just wasn't worth it...which is obvious to any outside observer but can be hard to realize when you're caught up in all the emo…
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 11:50 AM
1

I'm surprised that's what you took away from my post. Maybe I've implied that in some of my angrier moments in other posts, but that definitely wasn't the spirit of this post. I've been used, women and I have used each other, but any time I see myself beginning to use a woman for sex, I cut it off. Using women makes me feel worse, not better. And typically I am berated by the woman for ending whatever relationship we had, but I can't (up to this point, at least) look at myself in the mirror afte…
/r/MGTOW02/11/17 12:20 AM
2

It's funny that I posted this on Monday. Just last night (Tuesday) a girl who had previously flaked out on me invited me to go out, and we wound up hooking up. I was a complete phony, faking interest, bullshitting half-baked philosophical ideas, and she ate it up. I'm not at all interested in this girl, I just used her. And I'm pretty sure that's all it's going to be for me with women from here on out. My last relationship fried my brain and I am so numb to feeling anything for anyone. After I f…
/r/MGTOW01/11/17 07:24 PM
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I'd accept the invite but you absolutely must establish on the first date that you won't accept being friendzoned or being an orbiter. This same thing happened to me last year. I asked out a girl I was really into and she flat out said "I'm too busy right now". This year it turns out we go to the same gym, she flagged me down so I took it as an opportunity to try again. We went out once, it went really well but I failed to make my move since I firmly believed there would be a second date. She in…
/r/askTRP01/11/17 05:18 PM
1

My Ex was the most vocal feminist I have ever personally known. I was a fairly vocal Trump supporter. We were co-workers and I live/work in a foreign country, so the concept of Trump isn't quite as toxic and was very discussable in the workplace. I wasn't an asshole or self-righteous about it. It was just sort of a running joke in the office...my co-workers (including my Ex) and I would have fun with it and engage in friendly debates occasionally. I never apologized for supporting Trump or any o…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 05:07 PM
1

Amen to that
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 04:36 PM
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And just because a woman comes back to you, crawling and crying after she cheated on you (or was disrespectful in ANY way) doesn’t mean she won’t do it again. Once a woman has overstepped a boundary, there is no going back.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 03:12 PM
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One of the many moments I wish I would have walked away...
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 01:56 PM
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Haha... I really like that attitude
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 01:07 PM
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They don’t even want to be treated as equals. They all want to be dominated, even the most vocal feminist (ESPECIALLY her).
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 01:03 PM
1

I was surprised to find out a few days ago that there are some girls with 35+ at the age of 22. Can you fucking believe it? Yes, I can absolutely believe it. Both of my girlfriends in college had numbers like that. The first one I just forced myself to be ignorant about because I had only fucked two girls in my life and was starved for sex. The second one I rationalized that I had been with 20+ women myself, who am I to judge a girl who has been with a ton of guys? At this point I believe that w…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 01:00 PM
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I'm in the exact same position as you. I broke up with my Ex 6 months ago to the day almost. She kept trying to contact me for weeks after the breakup and I finally went nuclear, deleting my email and changing my phone number after a particularly nasty email she sent me. She sent an apology a week or so after that and I haven't heard from her since, and thankfully haven't run into her either. I've been NC throughout it all, aside from giving a polite and heartfelt response to the first handwritt…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:37 PM
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So true. The biggest mistake I ever made was treating women as equals on any level, at least when I was in a romantic relationship with them, although I'd say it applies to most women in any kind of setting. That goes from everything from intellectual conversation to simply the logical functioning of a relationship. I used to try to talk to my Exes about art, politics, current events, etc. Any disagreement turned into them giving me the silent treatment or some other childish response. I enjoy a…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:25 PM
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It's amazing what women think think they can get away with, simply because they are women. "It's your fault that I cheated, and fuck you for not taking me back so that I can cheat on you again."
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:13 PM
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Yes, I am absolutely the problem. Plenty of insecurities and have put women on a pedestal my entire life. Finally trying to re-wire my brain and not letting them have so much power over me. Whether or not that means giving up on trying to have a relationship with them, we'll see. Definitely more awake than ever though.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 11:38 AM
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Thanks for the advice. Sounds pretty much just like me. It wasn't until the last year or so that I realized that I wanted "a traditional relationship and marriage". It's almost like I subconsciously felt like I "hit the wall" myself. I got into an LTR that had a million red flags and stuck around for all the wrong reasons. It wasn't until after that relationship imploded that I started checking out TRP (and eventually MGTOW) and realizing that traditional relationships and marriage and kids migh…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 11:32 AM
1

Thanks. MGTOW is where I always come back for a cold shower.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 11:24 AM
1

I do think there are decent women out there...but they're just not very physically attractive. Or the ones who are attractive are already married and with kids. Attractive, single women who are over the age of 25 or so are whores and/or lunatics. I know it's hypocritical of me to shit on women for not being attractive enough for me, then whine about being rejected by women I'm not attractive enough for. I have to get over myself.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 11:24 AM
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Yeah I don't really see the point of that guy's post either. Not only is it pretty easy to be STD-free, but guys who have a high n-count aren't discriminated against. If anything women prefer guys who have "experience". That is not the point of my post though.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 11:17 AM
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Ha...I will say that lifting has become my favorite hobby and is a great stress reliever. One of my insecurities in life has always been being a skinny guy, it feels good to do something about that.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 11:15 AM
1

I am insecure, so I don’t care if people think that.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 10:43 AM
1

Actually, from what I've seen more than 50% of the threads are from women. And, many of the women there are very decent. They're very supportive of men there (much more supportive than I am of women). I've been with some downright insane and heartless women, but there are awful men out there too. There's a very low tolerance on the sub for broad generalizations about either sex, so you don't see hardly any SJW/"You go girl" bullshit. Anyway, it's a great sub, especially if you've been cheated on…
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 01:29 AM
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Call it what you want, it hasn’t made me happy. The pursuit makes me miserable if anything.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 01:09 AM
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And yeah, it’s been a long time since I’ve had a close friendship. I had plenty of them in college then I turned into a hermit more or less. I’m still trying to figure out how to be intimate with people.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:58 AM
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Yeah. Sometimes I see couples that look like a Disney movie. Then I check out MGTOW or r/SurvivingInfidelity. It’s unrealistic to look at a couple for a moment and think they have the ideal relationship just because they look happy.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:53 AM
1

Definitely not Chad...
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:49 AM
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Yeah. I’ve been disrespected and certainly put up with more than I should have but I’ve always ended it before it got too bad. I read about guys who stick around or even PROPOSE after they have been cheated on. I feel really sorry for those guys. They don’t know any better.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:47 AM
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Loneliness. Companionship. I see other couples and I want that. I feel like (or used to feel like) I can have that but I just keep fucking up.
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 12:42 AM
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30 years old. I feel like while I’m relatively young I need to take advantage of that but as I said the effort is getting old.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 11:32 PM
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Um...I’m clean.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 10:58 PM
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I like to think I'm making a little bit of progress. Rejections still sting for a hours or a day or so, but the more I am rejected the less I care. It's just getting old. And if I wasn't experiencing these rejections I'd be kicking myself for not putting myself out there. Maybe I'm getting to a point of not caring at all and just seeing women as nothing more than something to put my dick in that has no bearing on my self-worth.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 10:09 PM
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Sorry your feeling bad, man. Try to remember that wanting to kill yourself is your depression's distorted thinking. I've struggled with depression since I was 14 or so (I'm 30 now). It came back really bad for me this year and I've been dealing with suicidal thoughts regularly. Every now and then, though, throughout my life, something nice and unexpected happens, and I'm thankful that I didn't kill myself. Someday you'll be out of your parents house and you won't have to deal with their bullshit…
/r/askTRP30/10/17 09:24 PM
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Get hysterical when men prefer women who haven’t sucked a thousand dicks
/r/MGTOW29/10/17 11:52 PM
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If you're asking the question, it obviously bothers you. I've tried enough LTRs with girls with high N counts to know it's not worth the headache for me anymore. Plate her and have very low expectations, and certainly don't expect her to be loyal to you. There's a reason why girls like her wind up with abusive guys.
/r/askTRP27/10/17 05:52 PM
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Could you expand on this? I've never heard of "Guy" in TRP jargon. I assume you're talking about the 21 Conference? Is there a transcript of what you said? Or a video? As far as "Chad" being the role model for kids, yeah I agree he can be a bad role model, at least if that Chad is simply the football star who is getting the most pussy. That guy can get a girl knocked up not long after high school (or God forbid in high school) and throw the rest of his life off course. Hell, this could even happ…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/17 04:55 PM
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Great FR. Nice move by Jack, sounds like an interesting character. Was Chad in HS, the man we all wanted to be and all the girls wanted to be with, married some chick who I'm sure was a bombshell back in the day, but fucked up by marrying this low value woman and having 3 kids. In spite of this massive and extended life mistake he has gotten back on his feet at the age of 50, and the woman is realizing that the clock struck midnight for her long ago and she's just a pumpkin. Also a nice reminder…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/17 03:55 PM
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This happens all the fucking time, you just don't see it in something as blatant as print very often. On the flipside, you virtually never see men using women like this. Just stop and think about that for a second. It's commonplace for women to financially bloodsuck and use men like this until they can branchswing onto something better. But men almost never do it to women. Of course, this man is an idiot for allowing himself to be abused like this. But hey, many (all?) of us have been there, if …
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 10:08 PM
1

Yeah...sometimes I have wondered if I am convincing myself that I have a problem when I really don't because of the scaremongering surrounding masturbation, or even porn.
/r/askTRP25/10/17 04:12 PM
1

Interesting, thanks for the info. Good to know that it's somewhat confirmed that there are some short-term benefits to not masturbating, which I had suspected, but doing to eternally isn't going to give you superpowers, and may even be detrimental.
/r/askTRP25/10/17 04:10 PM
1

Got it, thanks for clarifying. I still wonder about the benefits of no masturbation whatsoever...it's one of those things that r/NoFap swears by but seems like it may be pseudoscience to me. Porn is a slippery slope for me...I can go without it for months but if I do it once, I'm going to want to do it every day. I don't waste an insane amount of time with it, but I don't think watching porn daily is a good thing.
/r/askTRP25/10/17 02:59 PM
1

I went like a week without masturbating and I felt like a caged animal. It was rough when I was in my apartment, not so bad when I was out and busy. I was more active in approaching women, but I also felt more desperate. Almost as if hooking up was a matter of life or death, because I felt like hooking up (or at least making out) was my only release...and if I failed, I had no short-term recourse. "Life or death" is a bit extreme but you get my point. I'm still not sure about how beneficial avoi…
/r/askTRP25/10/17 02:24 PM
1

Awesome post to read first thing in the morning, thank you.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/17 12:29 PM
1

I've reviewed my life extensively, and I think just about everything has happened at the time it needed to. I guess I regret not being more social and making more friends at certain points of my life...there have been times when I've had a lot of friends, and times when I was virtually a hermit.
/r/askTRP25/10/17 12:25 PM
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When you are a woman and conditioned to believe that anything you say can be rationalized, you can say anything and get away with it because men are too afraid to speak up for fear of of A) Throwing away the chance at getting laid B) Being labeled a misogynist C) Not fulfilling your white knight, chivalrous duties
/r/MGTOW24/10/17 02:06 PM
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Some women are more likely to do it than others. What kind of woman do you want to be with? This girl is going to cheat on you, and you know it. Why else would she divulge that info about her cheating in the past? She's laying the groundwork to cheat on you, so that she'll later be able to say "I told you I have problems being faithful." If she respected you, she wouldn't say that shit. It's only a matter of when and how long before you find out.
/r/askTRP24/10/17 12:28 PM
1

Thanks again for sharing. I don't know what it was about this post but I felt so much peace yesterday after reading it. It was one of the best days I've had mentally in the last six months. I think was realizing how truly awful people can be, realizing I was headed to that result with my Ex, and truly being grateful that I am free of her. Even after you think you know someone after 8 years of being with them (practically your entire adult life up to that point), some people can and will do the m…
/r/MGTOW23/10/17 12:19 PM
2

Thanks so much for sharing. Your attitude is really an inspiration to me. I'm curious, how long did it take you to get over your anger and disgust towards her? I guess that's something that you never fully get over (or maybe it is?) but when did you notice that you had gotten over it in a significant way? I don't even know your Ex but I am really disgusted by her. Evil really does exist in this world. The guy she's engaged to (or perhaps married to now) is the guy who is/was her boss? That guy i…
/r/MGTOW22/10/17 06:55 PM
3

Could you share more about your story? If I had married my Ex, I'm sure I would have heard more and worse lies, increasing manipulation, and of course cheating. What scares me the most is what you identify as the complete lack of empathy when cheating. Cheating disgusts and horrifies me. My Ex defended and sided with cheaters, as opposed to sympathizing with the victims of that abuse. And I do think that cheating is abuse, especially if it is something done over a period of time. My Ex would hav…
/r/MGTOW22/10/17 05:14 PM
5

I need to read this every day...
/r/MGTOW22/10/17 12:21 PM
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Is there a part 3??
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 02:20 AM
1

Totally agree
/r/askTRP18/10/17 09:36 PM
1

Men can be victims. Women can take advantage of and abuse men. To deny that is to deny reality. That said, it's important for men to to accept responsibility for their actions, for their past, and their present state. It's essential to not perpetually blame others for their station in life. If you keep making the same mistakes with women and keep winding up in the same bad situation, but take no responsibility for your actions, i.e. constantly falling into the victim mentality, you are not helpi…
/r/askTRP18/10/17 04:01 PM
4

This. Great attitude.
/r/askMRP18/10/17 03:18 PM
7

Because they can always get away with it, and virtually everyone will believe them and be there to wipe away their tears. Consider how men can virtually never be accepted as a victim. Many of us after being legitimately wronged want everyone, or at least SOMEONE, to recognize how we were a victim. But that recognition almost never comes, aside from recognition from other men, occasionally. I suspect that if we were accustomed to being accepted as the victim, we might become to enjoy that feeling…
/r/askTRP18/10/17 02:06 PM
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Feel free to message me
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 11:52 AM
11

It's a fair observation that a lot of men come here after being fucked over by women. And it's a fact that men commit suicide at a much higher rate than women, often BECAUSE of women.
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 11:52 AM
2

Man, what a fucking bitch. It would have taken everything in my power not to punch that cunt in the face.
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 11:49 AM
1

Thanks for sharing your story, man. I can relate. The thing I learned from my most recent relationship, that you also experienced, is how women will beg you not to break up with them, and then when you take them back, they'll go right back to their shitty behavior. What the fuck? This is one of the things that really messed with my head in my most recent relationship. I dumped my Ex after she defended this married guy she had been a plate to prior to me, and told me "nobody can guarantee they wo…
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 11:46 AM
1

Man, this one hurts. This is enough to redpill anyone for life. My Ex never cheated on me (as far as I know). Just knowing that she was in all certainty going to cheat on me in the future was enough to devastate me. But if she had, let alone if I had found her in bed with another guy, let alone in MY bed, I would have been completely destroyed. The icing on the cake in your story is how the next day she was insulting YOU! I think this is what Rollo refers to as "female solipsism". Women, or at l…
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 11:36 AM
1

Great story. I had a similar experience in college but somehow that didn't redpill me enough. I thought "not all women are like that", I just got a bad one. Boy was I wrong...
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 11:18 AM
2

It's not an issue, I just find it helpful to hear other guys tell their stories about their past relationships. It's especially helpful to me when I find myself foolishly missing my Ex and forgetting what an awful bitch she is.
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 01:24 AM
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Women like the idea of taming some rich, handsome player, and getting him to settle down, while knowing, due to his wealth/looks/game, he could walk away in a heartbeat and get another hot woman. That's basically the plot of every romcom (and every female fantasy), except his ability to walk away and get another girl is never explicitly acknowledged.
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 12:52 AM
8

What happened? I used to believe in the family/traditional values bullshit but I'm starting to recognize it's complete horseshit. Thank god I haven't knocked anyone up.
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 12:40 AM
6

"I love you, but I'm not in love with you anymore."
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 12:37 AM
5

Great observation. I’m starting to believe the same thing.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 11:53 PM
1

Great advice. Rollo T. is such a lifesaver. I had such a fucked up view of women for so long. Grew up in a hardcore traditional conservative family then lived in a university progressive feminist college town bubble for 10 years. The worst of both worlds. I got redpilled hardcore this year, super-painful but the best learning experience of my life, without a doubt. I like this advice a lot. Can't win 'em all. I was a little butthurt but still brought a girl home and fucked her, analyzed what I f…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 10:47 PM
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Man, thanks for the reminder. I was committed to my girlfriend and never would have cheated on her... I literally told her that the thought of cheating on her made me want to vomit. She responded “nobody can guarantee they won’t cheat”. Basically giving herself an excuse to cheat later and say “I told you so.” I never trusted her after that. Thank god I’m free from that nightmare.
/r/MGTOW15/10/17 08:46 PM
5

I see more of myself in Bukowski than any other artist. Hideous as a teenager, finding sex and debauchery and substances as that uncontrollable hideousness faded away but left a permanent mark on your psyche. Working shitty job after shitty job, surviving amongst the nobodies of society. Involuntarily begging for validation from women to make up for the disgust you evoked as a young man, sometimes romanticizing them, but always waking up and realizing they are just useful for fucking.
/r/MGTOW15/10/17 01:49 PM
2

Yes, which I'm sure is a reason why I wasn't so nervous with my date. I mean my date wasn't hideous, probably a 6/10 while the waitress is a solid 8/10.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 05:45 PM
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Yup. In my experience, if a girl is into you, she’ll make it easy for you, and it’s up to you not to blow it. I won’t waste my time with this girl again. She’s already got into my head and she’s not worth the headache, I don’t care how hot she is.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 04:48 PM
2

Totally agree. Experience obviously goes a long way too.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 04:46 PM
4

It did take a hit for a moment. Later the waitress and her guy sat down at a table next to us. I told my date that I had gone out with this waitress a couple of times. Obviously I didn't go into the details about how she dodged my kiss. This turned my date on because she could see how attractive this waitress was, and she was still talking about her when we were back at my apartment. Worked out pretty well.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 12:20 PM
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I've had many one night stands, although only a few in the traditional "date" setting after the first or second date. Honestly in my experience, it's not some secret art to understanding that a girl is into you. For me it's acknowledgments, subtle or not, from her that you have a higher SMV than her. Compliments, asking about what type of women you prefer, or even outright discussion about sex. Sometimes you can just tell. I know that's shitty, vague advice but you can often tell when a girl lik…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 12:14 PM
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Yes, she did. In fact, she and her guy sat down at a table right next to us about 30 minutes later. I don't think that was a coincidence, although if she didn't want to kiss me I don't know why she would pull that shit. I took my date into the bar after that and we sat on a couch the rest of the date.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 12:00 PM
2

Nah dude, I didn't say or imply anywhere that it's "somehow her fault that she's not attracted to me" or "assign accountability to the woman like it is her job to create her attraction to you". Those thoughts never crossed my mind. She just wasn't into me for whatever reason. She showed signs that she was, but pulled back at the end. Maybe I came off as too desperate, certainly she wasn't sexually attracted to me enough. I'll keep reading and hitting the gym and going out with women to improve. …
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 11:56 AM
1

Thanks, I made the same realization. There's also gonna be someone with more [fill in the blank] than me. No use in getting butthurt about it.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 11:44 AM
1

Yeah, one of those things that hurts your ego for a little while but ultimately a good learning experience.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 11:42 AM
11

Nope, never paid for anything.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/17 11:41 AM
28

Even Marcus Aurelius had an unfaithful wife and he was one of the greatest Roman emperors. Reading stuff like this always makes me feel better. Steve McQueen's wife cheated on him, for fuck's sake. Nobody is safe from infidelity.
/r/askTRP14/10/17 12:10 AM
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Ignoring the red flags from the very beginning of a person who I should have recognized was untrustworthy. Completely losing frame, in general. Being afraid to rock the boat in the relationship. Being afraid to walk away from the relationship. Not having an abundance mentality, i.e. believing that my girlfriend's pussy was the only one I could get. Basically, doing everything to dry up her pussy.
/r/askTRP14/10/17 12:08 AM
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I guess that's the point of this post. I don't care if I could have got her or not. I don't want to put in the effort for a girl who's not going to put in an effort for me. She dodged the kiss and I didn't see or hear from her again until I saw her with that other guy. It's definitely not worth it if I'm building up this unrealistic image of her in my head when she's out with other guys at the same moment.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 11:55 PM
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If she almost asks for the second date That's what threw me off with this girl. On the first date she was already offering suggestions for a second date and texted me afterwards suggesting we go out again soon. Same with the second date, making plans for future dates. I figured the kiss was in the bag and we'd be fucking in no time, but hell, maybe that's just something she does. Suggest future plans just to keep you interested, then doesn't put out when you make a move.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 11:41 PM
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Yeah, I sort of wondered this as well. And contrary to some of the advice I see here, I don't think going for a kiss on the first date is a rule you should always follow. I've waited 3 dates to kiss a girl and the buildup to the kiss (and sex) made everything that followed so much better. With some girls it's pretty obvious that you can make your move and get laid on the first date, but yeah, some other girls seem like they're not ready yet, or the window just isn't there. I thought this girl wa…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 11:36 PM
1

I don't see the point in arguing over semantics. It's a girl who I was more emotionally invested in than she was to me. Call it what you want.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 11:26 PM
1

I want to become the best version of myself, and part of that is becoming as sexually attractive as I can be, or becoming "Chad" to as many women as possible. The way I see it, you can always be a Chad to some woman. I know my date last night wanted to fuck me as soon as she sat down next me. From her perspective, my SMV was higher than hers. That wasn't the case with the waitress. For whatever reason, she didn't think I was worth kissing, let alone fucking. I didn't turn her on. I'm not a "Chad…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 06:48 PM
5

Awesome advice. If a woman is disrespecting you at this stage, she'll disrespect you again later. Don't waste your time and sanity.
/r/askTRP13/10/17 06:21 PM
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They were WAY more awake than they are today.
/r/MGTOW13/10/17 01:55 PM
1

Great analogy. One of those things that you'll never be taught in school and will never be admitted by feminists, but is as true as gravity.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/17 06:52 PM
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I thought you were joking, but the way you put it now I can actually see it working. I definitely think it's smart to go for a kiss before the end of the date. Waiting until the end just builds too much pressure. I just need to get over my fear of being rejected and thus "spoiling the rest of the date". I'm fairly new to dating so I give myself credit for initiating a kiss period, but I'd like to make a move earlier in the date.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 06:17 PM
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That's awesome man, I appreciate the feedback. Great story about McDonald's, similar thing happened to me the other day. Girl cancelled a date on me, I was pissed off as hell and went to a cafe to get some coffee. Wound up getting a phone number from the waitress. It's truly all a learning experience, and you're exactly right, as long as you have your eyes open, good shit is always right around the corner even after bad shit.
/r/askTRP10/10/17 06:11 PM
1

Eh, I play it by ear. Sometimes I go for it on the first date. 20 minutes into the first date, I like your style, man.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 06:08 PM
1

Not a typo. I respect women who will only (or at least prefer to) fuck in order to make a guy commit to them. Although it's really unclear to me exactly how many women like that are out there. I've fucked somewhere above 30 girls and almost all of them (maybe even 100% of them) were the type to fuck on a first date. I'm aware that a girl could tell me she's not ready to have sex on the first date, while letting some other guy fuck her no problem on the first date. I do believe that some women wi…
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 06:06 PM
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Man, this is a great mindset. I hope to reach this level of enlightenment someday. My Ex didn't even cheat on me but I beat myself up for months after the breakup because I knew I had irreversibly lost frame and she was bound to cheat on me someday because I had been such a bitch. How did you get to accept life and relationships this way?
/r/askTRP10/10/17 05:24 PM
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Great question. It's like the "if a tree falls in a forest, does it make a sound?" question. I think this is the mindset (conscious or unconscious) that most women employ. "If my man is providing resources for me, is handsome enough, and isn't a jealous, beta bitch, I can deal with him cheating, as long as he is discrete and I don't find out about it." I think it's a bit different from men. Being a cuck is a pretty high level of societal shame, and one that I would like to avoid at all costs. Ye…
/r/askTRP10/10/17 05:20 PM
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Yeah...I've had many one night stands but very few fuck buddies. After a one night stand I've typically been repulsed by the girl at her willingness to fuck on a first date. This is something I'm working on getting over...accepting that if she's fucking me on a first date, she's no good for an LTR, but she could do as a fuck buddy, and I just need to get over myself. I'm not sure that I agree with you that woman should be nexted if she won't fuck on the first date, but I guess that depends on yo…
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 01:05 PM
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Ha, thanks. I'm pretty new to the sub (and to traditional "dating" in general) but once you've read a little TRP/MGTOW, it's easy to connect the dots in your own life. AWALT...
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 12:13 PM
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I appreciate your point of view. I was particularly frustrated with this girl, as I think most men would be, after a couple of great dates, to be denied "the kiss" and haven't heard from her since. Of course, a woman has the right to decide whether or not she wants to kiss a guy. And obviously if she was really into me, she would have kissed me. But I'm not going to kid myself. She's entertaining other guys, as virtually all attractive women do. That doesn't upset me, that's just the way it is. …
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 12:09 PM
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Sometimes you have to be burned to the core to re-build a better version of yourself. The relationship with my Ex and getting over her was hell but I'm a stronger man because of it. And I know who my real friends are.
/r/askTRP10/10/17 03:00 AM
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Thanks for the support. I'm 30. I actually hadn't "dated" a lot until this year. Better late than never, though. For various reasons, throughout my life I've just settled for one night stands, infrequent fuck buddies and a couple of disastrous LTRs. It's crazy how virtually all men have the same experiences with women. I'm so thankful for finding TRP and MGTOW to help me keep my sanity. I'm staying in the game just because I feel like I lost a lot of time in my 20's due to financial reasons, and…
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 02:18 AM
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First date went really well. Both did I thought. Throughout both dates she made suggestions for future dates, was playful and flirty. Obviously now I feel like I got played just to give her an ego boost. Whatever. I’ll chalk it up as another lesson about women.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 01:55 AM
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Yeah, I’m getting there. With this one we just went for a walk and bought our own drinks.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 11:41 PM
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Good point, thanks
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 11:37 PM
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Yup... my brain’s rationalizations are pretty pathetic sometimes
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 11:19 PM
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I know it all too well. And honestly I blame myself for believing that feminists would value their ideology above sucking a dick. It's all just virtue signaling used to cover up their insecurities. They'll forget the meaning of "patriarchy" and "intersectionality" as soon as Chad unzips his pants.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 10:27 PM
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I’d like to do the same. It’s just a matter of meeting more women. I’m somewhere in between TRP and MGTOW, with the momentum going towards MGTOW. I’m not opposed to fucking women or even having a relationship slightly beyond that, but I have very little respect for the vast majority of women anymore.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 09:46 PM
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I’m guessing “sjw” is a typo, but a good Freudian slip. Feminists/SJWs will throw all their ideology out the door and be the worst misogynist’s whore if the guy has enough money/game/looks. If that realization isn’t enough to red pill the biggest beta cuck, nothing will do it.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 08:11 PM
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Thanks, I know I'm desperate and wasting my time thinking about her. Thank God for this sub.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 06:33 PM
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Good for you man. I don't blame you for sticking around for the extra money. Obviously the situation isn't ideal but you gotta do what you gotta do. If nothing else, use this situation as a reminder for what a shitty person your Ex is. A decent human being wouldn't be hitting up, let alone fucking, a co-worker of yours. Yeah it's hard to get over it in spite of having all the knowledge of what a shitty person she is, but you'll get over it.
/r/askTRP09/10/17 06:32 PM
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Thanks, I needed this reminder. I went on a second date last Saturday, went in for the kiss because I thought everything had been going well, and got rejected. Then I realized I was just being used because she was bored and it was my turn to give her attention. I haven't texted her since the date and I find myself patting myself on the back for "building tension" and making her regret dodging the kiss (ugh...) but if I'm honest with myself I know she's busy texting/fucking other guys.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 06:25 PM
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I went scorched Earth after I broke up with my Ex. I cut contact with all mutual friends, including my Ex Roommate/“friend” who I know wouldn’t hesitate to bone her. You’re obviously not in a good place emotionally. Cut people out of your life as necessary and take care of yourself.
/r/askTRP09/10/17 04:47 PM
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I love Eastwood's Western movies, although he seems more like a MGTOW. He's confident and stoic as hell though. I've always liked Cary Grant's style in movies too.
/r/askTRP08/10/17 10:23 PM
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Ha, I’ve never thought of it that way. Certainly I couldn’t marry someone who would take on my debt, like many women do. I’m a man from a working class family so I’ve always had to take care of myself. I’m happy to be a healthy, single, child free man. It would be nice to have not lost those years to virtual indentured servitude to the state, but my life could certainly be worse...and some of those dudes who have always had it made financially are now raising kids they may or may not want with a…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/17 10:37 PM
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You can’t just walk away from student loans in the USA. Even if you die, they get passed on to your family.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/17 02:28 PM
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Good for you man...stay positive. I wish I would have lifted during those 5.5 years. That’s one of my only regrets from that time period. That and I wish I would have learned how to dance salsa, another great way to meet women.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/17 02:27 PM
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I finished college $30,000+ in debt for a degree in art...awful life decision, obviously. I spent the next 5.5 years of my life paying for it in a job that I absolutely hated, and basically became a hermit because I was so determined to pay off my loans so that I could move on with my life and do what I wanted to do. I didn't date at all during this period. I basically stopped thinking about sex, and women in general. Sometimes I think about those years as "lost", but on the other hand I didn't …
/r/TheRedPill04/10/17 01:16 PM
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This suicide (if he went through with it) isn't revenge. If anything it gives his ex-wife an ego boost. I understand the pain this guy is going through but killing yourself and writing a note like this just gives her more power. Plus you know that everyone is going to take his wife's side anyway, regardless of this note. They'll give her sympathy for "losing" her Ex and give her a pass on cheating on him.
/r/MGTOW29/09/17 06:01 PM
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Well I assume you ask this because you want an LTR with an Alpha Widow. I do think an Alpha Widow can recover, but only after some time and riding the CC and/or using a Beta Chump to get over him. And this is all assuming she has cut off communication with him, because if she keeps sucking his dick, she's not going to get over him. Do you want to be that Beta Chump? I was and it was fucking awful. Both of you constantly comparing yourself to him (verbally or otherwise) which builds up resentment…
/r/askTRP28/09/17 06:52 PM
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Don't waste your time.
/r/askTRP28/09/17 06:03 PM
2

I haven't seen Swingers but a lot of people recommend it here.
/r/askTRP27/09/17 06:04 PM
2

What was your diet/routine for putting on 40 pounds, and how long did it take? I'm about 6'1" and 170 and desperately trying to put on weight. I'm eating lots of protein, including supplements, and hitting the gym every day.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/17 05:00 PM
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Oh yeah. This Ex of mine was a plate for a married man for a year(!) before she started seeing me, but publicly was the biggest feminist you could ever meet. In private, she made excuse after excuse for this man who, frankly, emotionally and psychologically abused his wife (and his affair partners) through years and years of cheating. Publicly she was the biggest champion of "women's rights". She'd go on and on about the sexism in the country we live in (not the USA, although she would never shu…
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 02:59 AM
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Ironically , that will make them want you more.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 08:21 PM
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I'm starting to come to the same conclusion about masturbation and porn. I agree that porn is worth avoiding. I also absolutely agree that not masturbating can lead to rash decisions like fucking someone you otherwise wouldn't, just in order to bust a nut. I've experimented a little with NoFap and never made it past 8 days. Maybe that speaks volumes about my self-control, all I know is I was walking around feeling like a caged animal and I didn't like it. Since then I usually try not to masturba…
/r/askTRP26/09/17 06:09 PM
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I imagine primarily women raised in conservative homes with a strong, alpha but loyal father figure would not find him attractive. Even then, due to the influence of feminism and popular culture, women like that are practically nonexistent today.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 02:51 PM
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100% true, I learned it the hard way. I read that from Rollo after my relationship. A man's loyalty is worthless and perhaps even counterproductive if he's a beta doormat.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 02:47 PM
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Good for you man. I'm working on getting to the same place. I'm not going to be anyone's doormat ever again. No pussy is worth losing respect for myself.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/17 06:15 PM
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What do you mean by "revenge"? Like sink their hooks into a "nice guy" and abuse him because they are angry about being pumped and dumped?
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 03:52 PM
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Yep. My relationship with my Ex was hell but it taught me so much about women. Publicly she was a hardcore "feminist" and constantly gave me shit and implied I was a misogynist for having sympathy for Trump and his voters, and because I enjoy reading Charles Bukowski. And yet prior to our relationship she had been a plate for a married guy for a YEAR(!) and continued to defend him for lying to and cheating on and, frankly, abusing his wife. She also said she could forgive a man for cheating on h…
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 03:49 PM
5

Eh, women almost always have each other's backs when the chips are down.
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 12:57 PM
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I think the opposite. They publicly call Chad a misogynist and a player but privately will fuck him and try to keep it a secret.
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 12:56 PM
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Jordan Peterson and TRP have saved me. Or lead me to save myself.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/09/17 04:09 PM
3

Great reminder of what my whore Ex will look like very soon
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 12:47 AM
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It's how Reddit works, right down to the white knight hive mind that dominates almost every sub. I'd leave the site in a second if I knew of a better substitute.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 06:56 PM
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They believe it because there will always be "nice guys" (and obviously 99% of other women) lined up to defend these women and take their side, no matter what the issue is, and especially if it involves a woman unhappy in her relationship. These "nice guys" operate with the belief that if they kiss enough women's asses, somehow it will eventually turn a woman on somewhere and they'll get some pussy.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:44 PM
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Thank you, man. And may your wife rot in hell.
/r/askMRP19/09/17 11:05 PM
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I'm really proud of you man. I really admire your positivity in the face of all this. I'm not married but I love this sub from the knowledge I get from you guys. I have beaten myself senseless for being such a pussy my whole life with women. It came to a head after my most recent breakup and my anger phase has been hardcore, but like you said, I had to go through this shit to get to this point.
/r/askMRP19/09/17 09:21 PM
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Cry/Manipulate emotionally This is what got me with my Ex. After I broke up with her I confronted her with the undeniable truth of what an awful person she was...she just started crying and talking about how awful her dad was and how she felt so weak and blah blah blah. Naturally I comforted her and said everything is OK and I'm not perfect either and I know it's hard, etc. Then she dried her tears and we made up and she left. The next day we were back to square one, with her being a useless, so…
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 06:31 PM
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I just finished Season 4 and god I fucking hate Diane. I watched Seasons 1-3 before my relationship with my "feminist" Ex and before discovering The Red Pill, so I wasn't really paying too much attention to the SJW/feminist bullshit. Diane typifies everything I hate about "feminists", and I suppose the majority of women. They think they are entitled to everything, and generally speaking they get everything with little to no effort (i.e. spreading their legs). She writes for a retarded blog but l…
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 08:11 PM
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I didn't watch the new season but thanks for the heads up, I'll skip it. Same thing happened with Bojack Horseman. The lazy, whiny, feminist (are there any other kind?) is basically the hero of the show and all the men are made to look like retarded sociopaths. Except for the asexual man, of course.
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 07:13 PM
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Similar thing happened to me with my Ex. She had been unenthusiastic about sex with me for a while (and had a shitty attitude with me in general) then one day she "wasn't in the mood". I could see the writing on the wall, but I felt like I couldn't just break up with her right then, even though it was about more than just the sex. Plus we had a vacation coming up the following week. Talk about a nightmare. Why should you commit to a woman who can't do something as simple as give you a blow job? …
/r/askTRP18/09/17 07:01 PM
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Can you clarify this? For me Tinder is the easiest way to get sex making the lowest commitment possible. Are you flat out anti sex or what? Not trying to attack you or anything, I'm genuinely curious. I enjoy sex and I'm not really looking for a committed relationship right now, so I don't see what the problem is, as long I'm not wasting excessive time or money or sanity.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 05:57 PM
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Is there a better place? I wasn't sure where the best place to talk about this would be.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 03:39 PM
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True. Granted I'm hardcore about being punctual in meeting people, men or women. And part of me wants to cut women a little slack, especially if they are a few minutes late because they spent extra time getting ready to look good for me (I spend practically no time getting ready). But I agree, anything over 20 minutes without a legitimate excuse is just disrespectful, and frankly taking advantage of our society's readiness to excuse women for anything.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 12:36 PM
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Ha, I had a girlfriend like that in college. I thought I was hot shit because I was dating this beautiful girl who loved getting drunk and doing drugs with me and had no problem making out with other girls to turn me on. Of course every thing I thought was hot about this girl turned out to be a huge red flag. What a fucking lunatic. I didn't think I would ever wind up with a girl as crazy as her but I was wrong. It can happen as many times as you let it happen. Stay strong man. I don't know what…
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 02:31 AM
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Ha! Sadly I'm sure I would have done that at some point in the past. Hell I probably did do it.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 02:19 AM
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Amen. It's ridiculous how much effort I've put into past relationships, trying to make my girlfriends happy. Which only led to depression, alcoholism, wasted money and so many missed opportunities in other areas of life. I gave up everything for less than nothing. Never again.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 12:58 AM
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Thanks. It feels good not living and dying by women's approval.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 12:36 AM
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Just wanted to say I went through the same shit mentally. You're not alone. I struggled a LOT with feelings of inferiority comparing myself to the type of men who all women find more attractive than me. More naturally physically attractive, more muscular, more confident, better leaders, funnier, more "I don't give a fuck if you walk out the door because I can replace you easily" because they actually can. I just take it a day at a time and do what I can to improve myself. There is ALWAYS going t…
/r/MarriedRedPill17/09/17 12:29 AM
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Thanks, I needed to hear this. In some sense I feel like I wasted the same decade (20-30, I turn 31 in a few months). I became a spineless bitch with the three LTRs I had, but the last one, which ended in April, led me to TRP and eventually to MGTOW. There are still tons of men in their 30's and 40's and 50's and beyond who haven't woken up yet. I still have a ton of anger and shame, especially over the slut my most recent Ex was, but I'm working my way through it, and I had to go through this a…
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 09:17 PM
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So funny, so sad, so true. Posts like these remind me why I'm lucky to be free of my worthless Ex.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/09/17 06:18 PM
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Damaged chicks are insecure about something (often being dumped/abandoned). When they see insecure men they understand that these men will NEED them the same way they'll need these men, and this relationship is appealing to them, they believe it'll form a stronger bond. That explains a lot about why my Ex went crazy when I dumped her, even though she'd lost sexual attraction to me. I guess one of the reasons she "picked me" and stayed with me was because she knew I would need her so much, and th…
/r/askTRP11/09/17 08:59 PM
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Thank you, this is a really helpful response. In this anger phase I'm going through, I have been getting the feeling that I need to act like a stereotypical "asshole" and treat women poorly in order to get sex and respect (as opposed to being confident and assertive). I was definitely raised with the idea that women are delicate and mysterious and sex is mystical and dangerous..and sure enough, I have usually been insecure and attracted damaged women. (As an aside, why do you think damaged women…
/r/askTRP11/09/17 08:31 PM
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Ugh...I learned this one the hard way.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/17 06:53 PM
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Best advice I've ever heard, "When someone shows you who they are, believe it." OP, don't wait until it's too late.
/r/askTRP11/09/17 04:41 PM
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Actually I have a question for you. Why did you switch to free weights? I'm a novice too, lifting exclusively with machines. There are free weights at the gym but I just use the machines because there are a lot of them at my gym and I figure lifting is lifting.
/r/askMRP10/09/17 12:29 AM
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Great post. Reminds me of some of the stuff I've heard Jordan Peterson say. I used to be ashamed and hate myself for being such a Beta retard with my Ex. But really it was a super important life lesson that I'm learning from, no matter how painful it was.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 01:46 AM
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Pretty much the same thing happened to me, right down to the politics and "manipulative Ex". I My Ex came after me HARD, despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that she was a devout "feminist" (she turned out to be a huge hypocrite but whatever) and me being a big Trump fan. It didn't take long for our fun arguments about politics to turn into me being a confirmed white supremacist and woman-hater. Oh yeah, and I had, according to her, pulled her out of a toxic relationship. I was constantly t…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 01:40 AM
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Man you've got a great attitude. I'm proud of you and you are an inspiration to me. I am still shocked at the things women will say after they cheat. I appreciate these reminders of how AWALT.
/r/askTRP04/09/17 10:59 AM
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I quit video games when I was 17 or so. Definitely one of the best decisions of my life. I was using video games as an escape because I had really bad acne and was too embarrassed to go out. And honestly when you've got bad acne on top of existing anxiety problems, sometimes you need an escape, but some escapes are better than others. I taught myself how to play guitar with the time I had been spending gaming. Also started spending a little more time with friends. I wish I had been lifting. That…
/r/askTRP04/09/17 12:07 AM
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I read it years ago and it didn't do much for me. Seemed like a bunch of generic advice, but maybe reading it again years later might be worth my time. Just because it's "generic" doesn't mean it's easily practiced. Nonetheless it didn't resonate so much. I just read No More Mr. Nice Guy for the second time. Now that is a book that deserves to be read at least once a year. Currently reading When I Say No I Feel Guilty, also essential.
/r/askTRP02/09/17 12:46 PM
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Did she really try to ask for your forgiveness and try to keep you in the relationship? That is insane.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/17 01:05 AM
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Uh, that's the point. An "honorable man" would not fuck another man's woman, let alone brag about it. But those "honorable" qualities in a man don't turn a woman on. I really don't know what point you're trying to make.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/17 03:59 PM
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I do believe that women are more sexually loyal than women, only because they've been raised in a society that tells them that loyalty and honor means something, and because women are forgiven and excused for virtually everthing (and men blamed for everything), including cheating.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/17 01:09 PM
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Thanks for sharing. My relationship and getting to know my Ex gave me the same sick feeling. She was a plate for a married guy for a year before me. It's 100% true that women would rather share a high value man than settle for an honest, committed, faithful beta. That was me. If she didn't cheat on me she absolutely would have. Honor means nothing to women.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/17 01:06 PM
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I think it goes beyond scarcity mentality. I know had a pretty bad case of scarcity mentality with my Ex, otherwise I would have left her long before I did. But even taking that into consideration, I would have dropped her the second I found out I cheated on her.
/r/askTRP01/09/17 12:40 PM
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Amen. I don't give a fuck if I look salty. Yeah ideally I wouldn't block my Ex and I'd be able to see her social media and cordially stay in contact. But the truth is she wrecked me and I'm only hurting myself by staying in touch with all that. I'd rather look salty than torture myself.
/r/askTRP31/08/17 04:44 PM
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Maybe has something to do with the way you were raised, or your sexual experiences in general. I was raised in a very traditional household/community where cheating or even flirting with someone who isn't your partner is unheard of. Also I didn't have any luck at all with women until I got to college, and had really bad acne in high school, which lead to a huge scarcity mentality with women that I still struggle with (but am improving on). When you've got a scarcity mentality mixed with Oneitis,…
/r/askTRP31/08/17 02:33 PM
1

I just finished it. Also full disclosure, I'm not married, but I really enjoy this sub. I took my Ex out on dates for dinner, typically on Friday nights. It was one of the highlights of the relationship. We were going to have sex anyway since it was one of the few nights we had to be together. Actually, when she didn't stay over and we went out to eat it was arguably even more enjoyable, maybe because we valued that short amount of time together more. Anyway, if you don't have an established "da…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/08/17 11:14 PM
1

I went through a very similar situation as your friend. I liked my Ex a lot and had good frame as we got to know each other, then she told me that she had basically been a plate for a married guy for the past year, and that she was in love with him. She left him to be with me...I was her white knight in shining armor, all that bullshit. I basked in that dumbass glory for a while, then I became insanely jealous and paranoid about her still having feelings for the married guy. It practically drove…
/r/askTRP30/08/17 09:19 PM
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Oh my god, thank you.
/r/askTRP29/08/17 06:54 PM
1

I live in a country where it's not as easy to earn $40 as it is in the USA, that's why I'm asking.
/r/askTRP29/08/17 06:16 PM
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Another one of those posts I wish I'd read years ago. Still very good and not too late for me.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/17 10:52 AM
3

What experience do you have in relationships with "eastern" women?
/r/askMRP28/08/17 08:22 PM
1

I suppose you're right. I had a regular "date night" scheduled with my Ex and got butthurt when the night didn't end in sex, or the sex was vanilla. So "dates" with your partner should practically always be spontaneous?
/r/MarriedRedPill28/08/17 03:16 PM
1

Where do you take your wife out? What do you do for fun with her? I'm not married but I've found this sub to be really helpful.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/08/17 01:49 PM
1

Why does the term "date night" make you cringe?
/r/MarriedRedPill27/08/17 01:35 PM
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This was so hard for me to accept. My father and grandfather both have lead pretty boring lives but are deeply loved by their wives. I expected the same from women I dated...I just had to be my nice, genuine self and some beautiful woman would love me and never think of cheating on me. Ugh...
/r/TheRedPill26/08/17 09:31 PM
1

What do you mean by this? That men are the gatekeepers of commitment?
/r/askTRP26/08/17 09:14 PM
1

Check out r/survivinginfidelity. There are lots of good people there going through what you are.
/r/askTRP26/08/17 05:44 PM
2

I wish I had read this last year. OP, listen to this guy. Don't be an idiot like I was.
/r/askTRP26/08/17 01:02 PM
25

You may think that hot girl is really into you because she "loves you for who you are" or she sees something in you that other girls were missing. But she may have latched onto you because you check just enough of her boxes to fuck, and you ignored all of the red flags that high value men pay attention to.
/r/askTRP23/08/17 04:18 PM
1

I used to think I just had to wait for the "right girl" to come into my life who would "accept me for who I am". Ugh... So I didn't work on myself because I didn't think I had to. I thought I was entitled to a good woman. The results were predictable...infrequent sex, and relationships with low value women who didn't respect me because I didn't respect myself. Now...working on my career, working on my physical appearance, working on just being happy. Not only do I not need a woman to make me hap…
/r/TheRedPill23/08/17 12:00 AM
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Consider yourself lucky that she left you. Most make your life hell until you can't take anymore and crawl out of the relationship. BPD women prey on guys who are deeply plugged in because they know guys who are unplugged smell their shit from a mile away, and will just pump and dump them. I wanted to kill myself with my most recent Ex. It was so fucked up. I could sense that something was very wrong but I still couldn't walk away from the relationship. It was like having Stockholm Syndrome. I h…
/r/askTRP21/08/17 10:55 PM
7

I'll raise you letting a BPD/NPD woman take over my life. Twice. Seriously...never again.
/r/askTRP21/08/17 10:16 PM
1

I'd rather not say but take my word for it.
/r/askTRP21/08/17 05:32 PM
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I live in a city with arguably the hottest women in the world, and go to a gym that is filled with HB10's every day. Seeing these women every day is part of what motivates me to work harder in the gym, make more money, be more confident, and generally try to improve myself in every way possible. Not that getting a hot girl to suck your dick is the end goal in life, but we all want to fuck a 10, and there's nothing wrong with using that to help motivate you. Use this girl as part of your motivati…
/r/askTRP21/08/17 04:45 PM
1

that bothered me a lot in the first few weeks of breaking up with my ex who cheated; thinking that she was likely not nearly as distraught as I was. Yeah...it has taken me a while to get over that. What pisses me off is how people (women in particular?) stay in a relationship long after they have checked out. Why put your partner through the humiliation of cheating on them? In your case, why let a relationship drag on to the point where you're capable of falling for some guy you met while travel…
/r/askTRP20/08/17 10:35 PM
1

Sorry to hear about this. I got that coveted apology from my Ex that everybody wants. It doesn't ease the pain. Everyone thinks it will, but it doesn't. As for how she can just move on the way that she did...well, have you broken a girl's heart before in a way that hurt her more than you? It works both ways. Maybe it's true that women tend to stay in a relationship after they've checked out more than men do. Maybe it's true that men are the true "romantics". But if you're honest with yourself, y…
/r/askTRP20/08/17 09:36 PM
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Don't take relationships too seriously. AWALT is especially true in college. Don't take it personally when the girl you hooked up with and thought you had a thing with sucks some other guy's dick the next day. And don't settle for a girlfriend just because all your friends have one.
/r/askTRP18/08/17 06:25 PM
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Here's one: be grateful you figured this out so young. So many of us here figured it out MUCH later. I didn't "get it" until I turned 30. Going through the "anger phase" is unavoidable, and you're certainly entitled to feel that anger. But I think the younger you are, the shorter that phase will be. You have so much less to regret compared to others...think about the guys who got married and had kids before swallowing the pill.
/r/askTRP17/08/17 06:30 PM
1

Believe what you want, man. All I know is I'd like it my someone told me my girl was cheating on me.
/r/askTRP13/08/17 11:17 PM
1

OK. Still worth it to tell the guy. Part of the reason we participate in this sub is to help out other men, not fuck up their lives even more, and Lord knows this Beta's life is already fucked up. There's plenty of other women out there to fuck.
/r/askTRP13/08/17 10:31 PM
1

Tell the guy his girlfriend is a whore who is trying to fuck you. End his pain. You fucking his girl is only going to prolong his torture.
/r/askTRP13/08/17 09:39 PM
1

Thanks for the backstory, and congrats on the success. I definitely can appreciate your perspective. I've seen that even the most ardent "feminists" want to exploit their romantic partners for their resources, in addition to getting everything else they feel entitled to as a woman. I absolutely agree that a healthy dose of MGTOW is good for you, as long as it doesn't slide into hatred of women, which admittedly can be difficult, especially after getting out of several bad relationships.
/r/ThankTRP13/08/17 06:55 PM
1

I checked out the MGTOW sub for a week or so. I saw some good posts there. The ones especially helpful to me were from guys who got completely railroaded by women and shared their stories, which I could identify with and really helped me. Unfortunately, it seems like that sub is dominated by memes and men who literally want to see women suffer, at least based on my short time there. I don't find the memes that beneficial and would really like it if the sub became text-only posts. I have come to …
/r/ThankTRP13/08/17 06:10 PM
3

Ha...there were other guys during that time as well. And honestly if she was just a plate, I wouldn't have been as bothered. It was my mistake making her an LTR and getting Oneitis that led me to the feelings of disgust. I wanted to turn a ho into a housewife. I'm disgusted with myself too. I'll be the first to admit I'm too naive and innocent sometimes. I'm still disgusted at how shitty people treat each other in relationships, cheating and all that, and those who make excuses for others who ch…
/r/askTRP13/08/17 01:39 PM
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I knew and worked with my Ex for 9 months before we started dating. I wasn't in the "friend zone" or an "orbiter". We just had a very slow buildup in our friendship and got closer and closer until we had a "Disney moment" and kissed and became romantic for the first time. I really liked her...she was hot but also introverted, a nerd, really funny and passionate. The next night I had a party at my apartment and she got really, really drunk. We wound up having sex that night for the first time. La…
/r/askTRP12/08/17 10:49 PM
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I think there will always be some women who can make you care. I believe the difference is the more experience you have with rejection, the more you will not care about being rejected, at least by women that you haven't invested in emotionally.
/r/askTRP10/08/17 05:33 PM
1

Just wanted to say I'm so sorry all of this happened to you. Read this sub and the other TRP subs every day. I've been really depressed myself this whole year and this sub (and its recommendations) have kept my head above water. Very recently I've started meditation and gratefulness exercises, which have helped with the crippling anxiety I've developed this year. Reading the author David Burns has helped a lot too. If you ever want to chat, feel free to PM me.
/r/askTRP09/08/17 08:30 PM
1

Can someone please elaborate on what it would mean to "lose social status"? Does this mean becoming an outcast of society based on doing something (or accused of doing something) that is reviled?
/r/TheRedPill08/08/17 12:43 AM
3

Sorry to hear you're going through a rough time. It sounds like you're handling the situation incredibly well, especially given the work situation. /u/pcadrian gave you some great advice. What you're going through is normal for anyone who breaks up with someone they were heavily emotionally invested in.
/r/askTRP07/08/17 11:42 PM
1

The odds of an escort having an STD are 100%, not so with a random girl. Take my advice or leave it, I'm not doing it again.
/r/askTRP05/08/17 11:10 PM
2

Not worth the paranoia of wondering if you got an STD. I've been with a couple and it did nothing for me. Set back my confidence if anything.
/r/askTRP05/08/17 11:05 PM
2

I almost never cum from blowjobs...only twice I think. From watching porn you'd think it's easy to cum from a BJ but the reality isn't the same.
/r/askTRP05/08/17 10:49 PM
1

Really sorry man. It hurts, even though it's illogical...it should be easy to get over some stupid slut, right? Unfortunately it's not that easy. Obviously read the sidebar but give yourself some time to get over her. "Bullet dodged" is a cliche thrown around all the time, but it's true here as well. She had you around her finger and could have lead you on and cheated on you. Try to look at this as a gift from the cosmos that you were spared that experience and you're free to go out with other w…
/r/askTRP05/08/17 09:16 PM
2

Lift, basketball, read, Ken Burns documentaries
/r/askTRP05/08/17 05:19 PM
3

ALWAYS let the girl say she likes you first. And never "like" a girl who "hoes around", let alone one who openly admits it.
/r/askTRP05/08/17 02:08 PM
2

If you're asking, you already know the answer. Video games are a complete waste of time. I'd say the only time when it's OK to play would be on the rare occasion when you really, really need an escape, since you're better off playing video games than going out and getting drunk and making your mental state even worse. Sit down and note how much time you waste a month playing video games, and think about what else you could be doing with your time.
/r/askTRP04/08/17 07:00 PM
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It's over man. Don't fall for any of her bullshit, or think "we've been together for so long, I should try to tough it out and stay with her". If you stay with her now after this crap, it's going to be even harder to walk away later. Save yourself the misery and end it now. And given what she did to you, you don't even owe her the courtesy of a "polite" breakup. Call her or send her a text. You don't win any extra points by being a "gentlemen" in breaking up with her. She lied to your face and t…
/r/askTRP04/08/17 12:22 PM
1

Definitely saw it in realizing how/why girls in high school/university went for the "jerks", and how/why they would be turned off by me once I went into beta mode. Ten years ago some slut I was crazy about in college, and had hooked up with several times, told me "you're just not the kind of guy I hook up with" the day after she literally pulled a guy into her bedroom in front of my eyes. I completely understand what she meant now. I also understand all the cliches about girls wanting sensitive …
/r/askTRP04/08/17 11:56 AM
5

Ex girlfriend being more interested in a married man than me
/r/askTRP03/08/17 06:32 PM
2

Yeah. The black guy in the video says something about reaching a point where you stop and say "What was I thinking????" I'm hitting that point pretty regularly now...hard to believe I cared so much about a whore of a girlfriend.
/r/askTRP03/08/17 05:09 PM
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Yeah...this video is essential. While it's really hard to just "get over it" like Jocko suggests (I think you have to allow yourself sometime, as long as you need, within reason), realizing and constantly reminding yourself that your Ex isn't who you thought she was is so important.
/r/askTRP03/08/17 02:30 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I've also had a difficult year, probably the most challenging of my life. I limped out of a toxic relationship and struggle daily with a difficult job in a foreign country. I've struggled with depression for the first time in years. But man, I know sometime later this year, or in 2018, I'll look back on this shit and be thankful for the experience. Also hitting the gym more consistent than ever, making an effort to meet and hang out with male friends, and reading good stuff o…
/r/TheRedPill03/08/17 12:12 PM
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Do you really want to be with a girl who doesn't want to fuck you? That's what it came down to for me. Once my LTR said she "wasn't in the mood" on a Sunday morning when there wasn't anything else to do, I knew the relationship wasn't worth my time or effort anymore. Granted, I was Beta as hell and that moment was a long time coming. But really at that point my Ex had little to offer other than sex, and if she wasn't giving that up, I wasn't interested in giving up all that I had to offer to her…
/r/askTRP02/08/17 02:56 PM
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Don't take women's opinions of you so seriously
/r/askTRP01/08/17 06:16 PM
3

Great advice...always wait for the girl to ask for commitment
/r/askTRP01/08/17 02:53 AM
2

If you're not comfortable with it now, you're only going to get more uncomfortable with it. Some guys here are just telling you to "get over it" but clearly you wouldif you could, and you can't. Sounds like you've got feelings for her, if you didn't, you wouldn't give a shit about this. I went through the same thing with my Ex and I wish I had ended the relationship much earlier than I did, because it really fucked with my head and still does. I can only speak for myself, and I'll never continue…
/r/askTRP31/07/17 02:59 PM
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Depends on where you live. I'm white and a minority in the country where I live. The "people of color here" (the majority) don't give a fuck about race...except the SJW white tourists who visit and self-flagellate and apologize for the white man to people who never asked for an apology. Same goes for feminism.
/r/askTRP30/07/17 08:49 PM
1

Great attitude...very inspiring.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/17 08:44 PM
5

In social situations, it's important to make a distinction between guys who are just busting your balls and guys who are actually trying to tear you down/disrespect you in order to make themselves look better. Ball-busting amongst friends and being able to give and take it is an important part of being a man. However if you're surrounding yourself with guys who don't have your best interests in mind, you should cut those people out of your life. Or if you run into a social situation where you're…
/r/askTRP30/07/17 06:13 PM
5

Case in point, my Ex was in a year-long "relationship" with a married man prior to being with me. And the whole time she was with me, I felt like she'd rather be with him (and she probably did). That's what brought me to TRP, and this sentence (along with "Desire cannot be negotiated") is the hardest pill I've had to swallow in my life, but also the most important.
/r/askTRP30/07/17 02:25 PM
3

Sounds like a good old fashioned slut to me
/r/askTRP30/07/17 02:57 AM
2

Thanks for the support. I was pretty frustrated last night but I feel better today. As a side note, apparently I'm not posting in the right place? Most of the responses are jokes or insults. Are there any other subs where you can actually vent frustration about experiences with women?
/r/MGTOW29/07/17 01:11 PM
2

It's a manipulative question used to belittle and shame the partner. Only a untrustworthy and manipulative person would ask this question. I've had two LTRs, both of which were shitty and both of them asked me this question. My first Ex asked me this right before she went to hang out with a couple who had previously asked her to have a threesome with them. I told her I'd go with her to hang out with them and she responded with "Don't you trust me?" Of course I said "Yes" because I was so fucking…
/r/askTRP28/07/17 12:20 AM
2

Thanks for the comment. I was definitely BB and at the same time semi-conscious of my beta behavior and the fact my behavior was not turning her on...while also feeling trapped in the relationship and aware that this girl was not a good choice for an LTR. It was like living a nightmare that was difficult to wake up from, although thankfully I did sooner rather than later. I had never thought if it from your perspective -- she was actually pretty up front and honest about being a bitch, and it di…
/r/askTRP27/07/17 08:03 PM
3

I second the suggestion to let her talk. If you try to talk too much you'll sound nervous and awkward. Force yourself to allow some silent pauses.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 07:26 PM
2

Yeah...I think I'm slowly starting to appreciate the experience as well. The relationship was hell, but it lead me here and I understand everything so much more clearly now, and am confident I won't make the same mistakes again. Same with the gym...I've wasted enough of my life being a skinny bastard. I've messed around in the gym before but nothing like I'm doing now, and if it weren't for my Ex, who knows when I would have gotten my ass in the gym and started seriously and consistently pumping…
/r/askTRP27/07/17 07:22 PM
3

I appreciate the response and the honesty. I guess compared to some (most?) people, I haven't struggled as much or as long. I'd love to just snap my fingers and forget about her, because no woman is worth this kind of post-breakup obsession, especially a low quality woman like my Ex. But when you let your self-worth get defined and demolished by a woman, this is the shit that happens I guess.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 07:08 PM
3

Thanks for the advice...I definitely feel the best when I'm running or lifting. It takes my mind off over everything. I could probably go a little harder on the cardio though...I'll push myself harder there.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 07:02 PM
3

Mark Baxter
/r/askTRP27/07/17 04:34 PM
2

The stages of grief are real...you have to grieve the ending of the relationship. Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance...you'll go through them all.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 03:30 PM
1

Same here...I get bored of women so fast, but my Ex was like a disease and the worst drug to get addicted to. Hurt like hell to leave her and I still feel fucked up but lifting and exercise, hanging out with friends, meeting new women helps immensely.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 03:29 PM
3

Man, I never thought of it that way...even men of the highest SMV get cheated on and select low value women for LTRs. I'm not as big a loser as I thought.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 03:24 PM
4

Great advice...I needed to hear this too. I beat myself up so much for my Ex losing interest in me, and I constantly compared myself to her Ex (I still struggle with this even though I broke up with her months ago). But she did see some qualities in me..she said she loved me and she tried hard to keep me when I left her. It's not healthy to let her define my worth to any extent, but I do deserve credit for attracting her.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 03:22 PM
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"You don't trust me?" Any woman who says this is a worthless whore. Let her rot in the hell of whatever relationship she gets herself into.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 03:13 PM
2

Just wanted to chime in and say you absolutely made the right call. Do NOT take her back if/when she comes crawling back. I took my Ex back after dumping her and it was a horrible mistake. Improve on how to identify a girl for an LTR, if that's what you want. Look back on beta behavior and try to improve on that. Again, congrats on leaving that girl. It's not easy.
/r/askTRP27/07/17 03:11 PM
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Right on...there's nothing wrong with ditching an LTR as her slutty past gets trickle truthed.
/r/askTRP26/07/17 01:26 AM
7

So true. I look back on my relationship with my Ex and think "If only I had done X, Y or Z, then maybe the sex could have improved." But the truth is, it just wasn't worth the effort. It didn't matter how much I improved, she still would have cheated on me, and any improvement in my sex with her wasn't worth that humiliation.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/07/17 02:30 PM
5

Reminds me of myself. I used to ask myself why women got into relationships with abusive men. In fact I looked down on these women...how could they be so weak? Then I found myself in a relationship with a girl who left a "toxic, manipulative relationship" (her words) in order to be with me...and I let her treat me like shit. I waited on her hand and foot, did whatever I could to try to make her happy. I completely stopped giving a shit about myself. My social life ceased to exist and I sank into…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/17 06:28 PM
1

We all go at our own pace getting over relationships. The only thing that is for certain is that we'll get over them someday. Don't beat yourself up for being hung up on her. Do what you can to invest in and take care of yourself...go to the gym, read self-help material, go outside. I know it's a cliche but the truth is that this "breakup" is the best thing that could have happened to you. I know it's hard to believe this...I have hard time taking my own advice sometimes. I came home drunk last …
/r/askTRP24/07/17 01:04 AM
1

I can identify with a lot of what you have said. I've only been here a few months and I've found myself more frustrated than ever when I look back on my past. Despite having sex pretty regularly in the last year, a recently failed relationship woke me up to how I had never been part of the "party" (as you said it) of those who "got it". For me it took realizing that my Ex "loved" being the mistress to a married man she had been seeing prior to me more than she ever "loved" me. I've spent my whol…
/r/askTRP24/07/17 12:36 AM
1

I can relate. For several years after I finished college I was poor as shit, paying off my student loans and could barely afford to take care of myself, let alone have a girlfriend. I got into an online "relationship" with a girl from Honduras I met while doing a language exchange online. Granted, I was the one who ended the relationship, but it still hurt really bad...I had to take a day off of work because I was so depressed. The girl was hurt even worse. Point is, when you're lonely and don't…
/r/askTRP24/07/17 12:08 AM
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Of course it comes from HuffPost...
/r/MGTOW21/07/17 12:58 PM
1

First of all, virtually no "liberal hedonists" want to keep drugs illegal. I don't use drugs (with the exception of alcohol, which I'd like to quit at some point) because people's personalities and behaviors change when they're on drugs, including my own. I've found that my relationships (including those with plates) that are predicated on drug use ultimately wind up more unfulfilling than those that aren't.
/r/askTRP20/07/17 03:45 PM
1

Yeah, it hurts.
/r/askTRP20/07/17 06:14 AM
4

Hey buddy, just want to let you know I feel your pain. I went through a similar thing with my Ex. We've just got to accept there's always going to be a guy with more going on than us, and a girl is always capable of branch swinging. We've got to work hard to be the best version of ourselves, for ourselves, and let the chips fall where they may. I'm sorry you had to go through this. Let it be a lesson. And ghost your Ex. That includes never looking at her social media .
/r/askTRP20/07/17 03:23 AM
2

Don't throw her shit away, that gives her an excuse to keep harassing you. Drop her stuff at her place or have a friend do it.
/r/askTRP19/07/17 12:02 AM
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"Don't you trust me?" This question makes me rage so much. Women ask this and then go and cheat on you. I can't stand how manipulative they are. Dump any bitch who utters these words.
/r/askTRP19/07/17 12:01 AM
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That's a good one. It inspires me, I don't know why. Maybe because he's also not a retard politically like most in Hollywood.
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 06:51 PM
1

Thanks for sharing that. Really interesting. This guy is really calm about girls who flake. Maybe I overreacted...I could have just waited until the next day and waited for the apology (if one came at all) and re-scheduled. Especially since I had very little expectations from this girl anyway. I guess I just don't want anyone in my life who is going to disrespect me like that, and I'm tired of making excuses for women. If a girl wants to cancel and re-schedule, OK. But I'm not going to be anyone…
/r/askTRP18/07/17 01:17 PM
1

Would love to listen to it, thanks.
/r/askTRP18/07/17 01:10 AM
1

Thanks. It would be one thing if she texted me and cancelled...then maybe I'd wait for her to propose a different date. But if she's just going to stand me up like that, I see no point in ever re-connecting with her.
/r/askTRP18/07/17 12:20 AM
1

You would really try to re-schedule a date with a girl who stood you up on a date? Doesn't that show you'll accept any kind of shitty behavior from her? Why waste your time?
/r/askTRP17/07/17 10:47 PM
1

Seriously interested in how you handle situations like these, without all the sarcasm.
/r/askTRP17/07/17 09:45 PM
1

Why continue engaging with someone who will disrespect you like this? If she'll do it once she'll do it again.
/r/askTRP17/07/17 08:52 PM
0

Kind of how I felt. If she'll do it to me once she'll do it again.
/r/askTRP17/07/17 08:50 PM
0

Thanks for the feedback.
/r/askTRP17/07/17 08:32 PM
7

I'd add that the book isn't suggesting to vomit your weaknesses out to anyone who will listen. There's a time and a place and a person to share your weaknesses and troubles with. That person isn't the woman you want to respect you and want to fuck you.
/r/askTRP17/07/17 07:57 PM
2

Thanks for the response and the support. This sub seems like a good place...TRP has its strengths but this sub seems to be a place where you can actually open up and get some sympathy for the shit we've had to deal with. There's something to be said for that.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 07:26 PM
2

Thanks. It's funny, I had a date scheduled with a girl yesterday. It was going to be our third date, she was supposed to come over to my apartment and cook and watch Netflix. She was the one who proposed this...I'd never ask a woman to come over and cook for me, although I probably should try that. The first two dates went really well I'd thought. Anyway, she completely disappeared yesterday. She didn't respond to the text message I sent to her telling her to come over. Nothing. She was apparent…
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 07:04 PM
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Late to the party on this post, but I'll be damned if we didn't date the same woman. And yeah I was just as beta as you were. I dumped my Ex about 3 months ago (actually it was the second time I dumped her, the first time I took her back, just like you did several times). She varied between hurling the worst insults she could think of to me and telling me shit like she thought she'd found true love with me. I'm still struggling a bit getting over her but I think that's normal, given the type of …
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 09:03 PM
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Hey, I would appreciate hearing your full story, too, if you wouldn't mind sending me a message. I'm getting over a BPD/NPD ex girlfriend and your story really resonated with me. Also just discovered MGTOW, I'm interested in seeing how the perspective here is different from TRP.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 08:17 PM
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Sometimes if the girl isn't getting touchy and close with me, I wait until the second date before I get more touchy and close.
/r/askTRP16/07/17 07:38 PM
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Never take a girl who claims to have an abusive Ex seriously as an LTR option, especially if you are prone to Oneitis, which you obviously are. In fact, you shouldn't even try to plate her. Deep down she doesn't want a guy like you. There's a reason why women like her get into abusive relationships. They're broken people. You can't save her, don't even try any of that White Knight bullshit. And assuming she even tries some sort of relationship with you, it's going to end very badly for you. Run,…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/17 04:27 PM
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My point is that I realize that you can be in a low point in a relationship but that doesn't mean it's over.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/07/17 12:15 AM
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I'm not married but I'm subscribed to this sub for posts just like this. It's encouraging to know even when you're down and out, you can turn a relationship around (assuming you want to turn it around).
/r/MarriedRedPill15/07/17 04:53 PM
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120g of whey protein (and creatine is in the powder, no idea how much) I misspoke
/r/askTRP14/07/17 10:56 PM
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Man, there's nothing wrong with getting more action on the 2nd date. Sometimes you hit a home run with the first date, but often I've found that waiting until the second date to fuck guarantees more action down the road.
/r/askTRP14/07/17 08:15 PM
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I'm taking whey protein with creatine after I lift, although it's unclear to me exactly what purpose creatine serves. Does it build muscle more rapidly or ?
/r/askTRP14/07/17 06:22 PM
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No. Do both at the same time. There is no replacement for personal experience. You can have every word of TRP theory memorized but it's useless if you're not out there making mistakes and comparing notes with stuff that you've read. Case in point, there are often posters here who claim to be well-read in TRP stuff but come here butthurt when they get rejected after a one-night stand and the girl doesn't want to be their Disney princess. Making mistakes and getting burned is just as important as …
/r/askTRP14/07/17 01:36 PM
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Get hurt and get back up.
/r/askTRP14/07/17 11:56 AM
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Pretend she doesn't exist, and do everything you can to make that a reality.
/r/askTRP14/07/17 12:19 AM
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And give the absolute minimum of time, affection, and attention to sluts. Don't try to domesticate a slut.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/17 04:27 PM
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There is no "angle".
/r/askTRP13/07/17 12:43 PM
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Don't bother trying to decipher her "angle". It's bullshit. I know it's hard but you have to move on. Women will tell you they love you and want to have your children and spend the rest of their life with you, then suck another guy's dick in the same night. Don't pay any attention to their words unless their actions back them up.
/r/askTRP13/07/17 12:35 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself
/r/askTRP12/07/17 09:16 PM
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The only way I'd interact with this girl again would be if she came directly to my place to have some drinks. That was totally inappropriate what she did. Why would you want to spend time with someone who would do that to you?
/r/askTRP12/07/17 06:19 PM
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I'm going through something similar. I'm about 2.5 months out of my breakup. I'm more hung up on the guy my Ex was with before me. I've been having nightmare fantasies ever since the breakup that keep me awake at night, or that come up in the middle of the day when I'm not busy. I think part of it is I'm feeling all the stuff that I didn't want to think about during the relationship, i.e. how he could sexually please her in a way I never could. As others have pointed out, it's essential to meet …
/r/askTRP12/07/17 03:26 PM
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I can only speak for my admittedly sad beta self. I spent pretty much every moment I could with my Ex because basically all of my self worth came from her. Being with her was like getting loaded on heroin. I couldn't stand being away from her. I also felt like if I told her "Hey, I'm going to hang out with the guys this weekend" she would get pissed off and cheat on me, which I honestly think she would have done. I felt like she was just looking for any excuse to feel justified in cheating on me…
/r/askTRP10/07/17 12:19 AM
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Thanks for the information. I'm geographically not in a position to meet with a therapist so this could be very useful.
/r/askTRP08/07/17 02:09 PM
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Well first of all, never contact her ever again under any circumstances. And if she reaches out to you, don't respond. That's the first and most important rule about getting over someone. If you intend to contact her, you have no intention of getting over her. The thing that helped me the most was I read a book "Ten Days to Self Esteem" by David Burns, which I believe is sort of an abridged version of his book "Feeling Good", which I also read several years ago when I was struggling a bit. I hig…
/r/askTRP08/07/17 01:23 PM
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Just realize if you drop her now without working on yourself, you will just end up in the same place in your next relationship. So true. There's a reason why people (like me) have found themselves in one shitty relationship after another. It can and will happen again if you let it.
/r/askMRP06/07/17 07:51 PM
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I'm like, "bitch you got caught with 2 cocks at your house and you're still the prize to be had?!" I'm finally starting to internalize that my Ex is not a "prize". Yeah she looks good now but it's going to head south fast in a few years. She's a used up, untrustworthy liar with a shitty attitude. It's amazing the shit I put up with for the rare "good times" and occasional pussy.
/r/askTRP06/07/17 07:29 PM
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Yeah...I think part of the reason this experience was so painful was because I realized I can't be in denial anymore. My Ex confirmed all my worst fears about how awful women can be. It doesn't matter what you do or say (doesn't matter what THEY say either), they will crush you like a bug in the worst way possible if you give them the opportunity, and will do so without giving a second thought about it. It must be said that our Exes treated us like shit and disrespected us, and there's no excuse…
/r/askTRP06/07/17 07:24 PM
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They wont, however, give you happiness. They wont give you the will to live. They wont give you a purpose. All fof that comes from within. Man, so true. I am going to read this quote every day. I let my Ex completely control all of those things, and sadly I'm still trying to rid myself of memories and emotions from the relationship.
/r/askTRP06/07/17 06:54 PM
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Because she has to be the victim. After I dumped my girlfriend in what was an extremely one-sided relationship (Beta Bucks me doing everything for her), she harassed me for weeks. One of the last things she said to me was "Do you laugh like a maniac when you think about how you played me?" I was pretty hurt from the relationship because it was so shitty and I let her walk all over me, but that shit made me laugh. I don't know what mental gymnastics she did to arrive at the conclusion that beta b…
/r/askTRP06/07/17 06:48 PM
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Thanks for sharing. My Ex was borderline emotionally abusive...not as bad as other cases I've heard , but enough to make me feel like shit. I'm sure it would have gotten worse if I'd stayed with her longer. I'm also sure she acted this way because it mirrored the relationship between her parents. I know she wanted me to give it right back to her, but I didn't. I guess I was afraid of upsetting her. So I just sat there and took it, and it progressively destroyed my self esteem. The moral of our s…
/r/ThankTRP06/07/17 06:31 PM
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Thanks
/r/askTRP06/07/17 05:19 PM
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You can meet new friends via your less than great friends. One of my "less than great" friends introduced me to some good, healthy people.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/17 03:39 PM
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Amen. Condensed posts like this are a nice supplement to the other daily reading I do.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/17 02:43 PM
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I'm still getting over a bad relationship...I don't really miss the girl that much, I'm mostly just ashamed of myself for getting into the mess and investing so much emotionally in someone who really disgusts me in retrospect. I regret having the relationship although it was without a doubt the most eye-opening relationship I've ever had.
/r/askTRP06/07/17 12:56 AM
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Ugh...so true. I need this slap in the face more often. "Don't get mad, get better."
/r/TheRedPill06/07/17 12:26 AM
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Some things aren't worth trying to figure out. Also, if you're that concerned about figuring this shit out, you admit you're prone to oneitis, and she is trying to garner sympathy from you for being into some "dark shit", you're setting yourself up for some White Knight, Captain Save a Ho. shit. Don't waste your time on this girl.
/r/askTRP05/07/17 01:22 PM
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Be very, very careful about getting a girlfriend just to have one. This can lead to you being with a girl taking advantage of you because you're so desperate.
/r/askTRP04/07/17 08:02 PM
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A lot of that has to do with having established rapport/social proof. If you've built a large enough network of friends who respect you, who enjoy your company and are interested in what you have to say, you have that effect, which affects whichever new person may be in that social setting. That new person sees you as someone worth talking to and listening to. You could talk to them about anything and they'd be interested in what you're saying, whereas a random person walking up to them could sa…
/r/askTRP04/07/17 01:10 AM
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Good for you in steering clear. My last two Exes were like this girl, not quite as extreme but I was Cap'n Save a Ho nonetheless. I've found it hard to say no to girls like this in the past, at least just to fuck them. Then they get super attached to me and become a nightmare to get rid of. Again, congratulations for ending it before things went any further, you're an inspiration. As far as finding a "good/healthy/normal" girl, I think it's just a numbers game. And due to feminism the numbers ge…
/r/askTRP02/07/17 06:44 PM
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When you're better off out of the relationship than you are in the relationship.
/r/askTRP30/06/17 02:48 PM
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Yeah, I spent a lot of time reading about NPD too. Probably too much. But it helps make some sense out of a relationship that is so confusing. I gave and gave and gave, and she took and took and took. Nothing was ever good enough, she was never satisfied, yet she did everything she could to keep me trapped in the relationship, and went berserk when I broke up with her. It almost feels like you're going crazy when you're with someone like that, and learning about NPD helps you feel sane again. I …
/r/askTRP29/06/17 11:53 PM
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1) Do yourself a favor and read about the characteristics of people with NPD/BPD, it might be enlightening to you. 2) Forgiving myself, and doing so regularly, has been incredibly helpful. 3) Forgiving her or not is up to you. But contacting her will accomplish nothing, and I think you know that.
/r/askTRP29/06/17 11:16 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I'm pretty much the same...very easy to pick up average women, but generally fuck up with ones I'm attracted to. Any general tips for how to have a good 1st date, and the immediate steps after that if you want to plate the girl? I'm reading a lot about how to manage plates but needing good advice on how to handle a first date without coming across as Red Pill Rambo.
/r/ThankTRP29/06/17 08:33 PM
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Yeah. A huge hang-up for me (and really the only hangup I'm still working through) was the fact that I know she was a lot more sexually attracted to her Ex compared to me. I was so pissed off because he was an "asshole", scum, piece of shit, you name it, as far as angry Beta Bucks labeling goes. Before coming across TRP, I never internalized the fact that women will excuse virtually any behavior for an Alpha. Women would rather share a high value Alpha than be stuck with a Beta loser. She liked …
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 07:56 PM
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I recently got out of a relationship with a similar girl. Some of the things helping me move on: 1) Accept the relationship was doomed from the start. There's nothing you could have done to make this relationship last, or to have been happy in the relationship, or to have made her happy. As others have pointed out, she had BPD/NPD traits, and she was just using you as fuel to burn. Accept that for what it is. 2) Forgive yourself for loving this person. You loved her and she couldn't reciprocate …
/r/askTRP29/06/17 07:31 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. I was in the "Denial" phase of TRP acceptance for longer than I wanted to admit to myself. I'm doing lots of work on my self-talk/negative thinking to deal with the feelings of anger/resentment/inferiority, along with digesting the recommended material here at a reasonable pace. It's going to take a while to get to where I want to be but there are no shortcuts.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 06:40 PM
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Yeah...for me, dating a hot girl (by society's standards) was another box to check for "self esteem". She's a bitch with a shitty attitude? Doesn't matter, she's hot and you're a "winner" if you've got your arm around a hot girl. /s The relationship ate me alive but I'm realizing that the lessons I learned from that nightmare were worth the pain. I don't know if I could have learned any other way except hitting rock bottom.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 06:29 PM
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I appreciate the follow up. I'll be the first to admit I'm new to TRP thinking and self improvement in general, especially in the self-value/self-esteem area. The problem I've had in the past is that when my self esteem is at an all time high (which I often tied to having success with women, among other things), I've wound up in LTRs with the hottest girls I've ever been with but are really shitty partners for LTRs and I wind losing all that self esteem. Obviously the problem is I've been tying …
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 03:42 PM
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What recommendations do you have of "Game" literature? I think I'm set for awhile with TRP literature, but I'm not really sure where to start with practical, field-tested Game advice. Especially since I don't want to read stuff written by guys who don't actually get laid but write stuff that just sounds good. I've hooked up with a lot of girls due to decent looks and maybe some natural Game, but I definitely want to know what works and doesn't work so I can get even better results.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 03:10 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I was just thinking about the scorpion/frog parable the other day. Especially considering the massive red flags evident at the beginning of the relationship...yeah it's normal to be upset and angry when a relationship you're heavily emotionally invested in fails, and I forgive myself for ignoring those red flags...virtually every man on Earth has been burned by a woman. But I shouldn't be surprised when I get burned by any woman, particularly one like my Ex. And yeah, I re…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 03:04 PM
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What practical advice do you (or anyone here) have for giving up anger and cultivating joy? I'm reading TRP stuff (The Rational Male now, No More Mr. Nice Guy next) every day, going to the gym, doing some self-help exercises to improve self-esteem, and trying to spend more time with friends and new people. Any other advice? I'm 2+ months out of a bad relationship and trying to learn and implement the advice here. I'm struggling with anger towards my Ex for reasons I know are illogical but I'll b…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/17 02:24 PM
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Yeah. I vaguely knew about TRP during my relationship, and actually read a little bit at the beginning of it, but I stopped reading, let alone posting questions, because deep down I knew I'd (rightfully) be ripped apart here for staying in a relationship with a faithless, disrespectful leech. Some of us unfortunately choose to hit rock bottom before we start putting the advice into practice.
/r/askMRP28/06/17 03:51 PM
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Great post...thanks for writing this.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/17 03:36 PM
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You should be proud of yourself. A lesser man would have strung her along and cheated on her. You did the right thing and you're both better off for it. Someday she'll be thankful. The world would be better off if there were more men and women who did what you did.
/r/askTRP28/06/17 02:05 AM
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Don't be flattered. She just wants an ego boost from you. Don't respond. She does not exist.
/r/askTRP28/06/17 02:01 AM
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Any recommended podcasts?
/r/askTRP28/06/17 01:57 AM
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Same here. This sub is pure gold. I was such a Beta bitch with my Ex...by the end of the relationship the sexual fire was gone, but she still really liked me in some different way, and I couldn't figure it out. Here it's explained perfectly... I was doing great connecting emotionally, but I was a disaster in attracting her sexually. I thought if I could make the emotional connection, the sexual attraction was a given. Nope! We could have the sweetest night out, laugh and smile and talk all night…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/06/17 08:44 PM
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I'm reading 10 Days to Self Esteem by him. This and "Feeling Good" are great material if you're struggling with depression/self-esteem issues due to shitty relationships with women. TRP literature obviously essential as well...Rosso Tomassi's Rational Male book has helped me a lot in recognizing how I have so obviously screwed up the intimacy of my relationships.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/17 08:00 PM
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I think having LTRs in your 20s is helpful to build personal, first-hand experience with how women are. Yes, there's plenty of truth and education to be found on TRP and other places, but there's no substitution for actual life experience. It's one thing to read that AWALT, it's another thing to see it for yourself in a relationship.
/r/askTRP27/06/17 03:51 PM
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Amen. Keep contact with her to a minimum. And never, ever go back to her, under any circumstances.
/r/askMRP26/06/17 06:05 PM
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I think you're leaving yourself open to some crazy shit. She's obviously not all together mentally and you're not certain about your feelings for her, so this could get messy. Is the sex really worth the drama? I know I wouldn't go back to that.
/r/askTRP26/06/17 12:22 AM
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So true. My Ex made excuses all day long for having an extended relationship with a married man. Yet when I broke up with her she went crazy and was convinced I had cheated on her. Only after discovering TRP did I realize the extent to which women use sex as a tool, as an excuse, as a reason for everything under the sun.
/r/askMRP25/06/17 10:06 PM
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I'm actually more familiar with the indications of NPD...check out r/NarcissisticAbuse for more info on that, it's been helpful to me in dealing with what I went through. As far as BPD, I had an ex years ago who was clinically diagnosed with BPD, and my most recent ex was virtually exactly like her, from the traumatic childhood to the crazy, unpredictable behavior.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/06/17 12:53 PM
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I've had not one but two exes with BPD/NPD. As you've obviously learned, women like this simply are not worth our time. So much of the battle is A) Evaluating which women are worth our time and B) Knowing when it's time to walk away. Of course this is easier said than done...our social conditioning makes it easy to get trapped into the White Knight mentality, and other factors can make some of us men fall even harder for these women. Part of me wishes I'd never met my ex because man that was a p…
/r/MarriedRedPill25/06/17 02:31 AM
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Any recommended articles for getting started on this?
/r/askTRP25/06/17 12:08 AM
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Any specific recommendations for JP videos? I've tried listening to some of his podcasts and I hear nuggets of good stuff relevant to my life, but a ton of it is super academic psychology/history/mythology that is completely irrelevant to me.
/r/askTRP24/06/17 11:42 PM
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Awesome video...I'm so glad I discovered TRP. At the risk of sounding like a cult member, I feel like I've been "re-born" now that I understand these dynamics.
/r/askTRP24/06/17 04:48 PM
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My ex was the biggest "feminist" I've ever known personally (the one and only red flag I needed to pay attention to, but I digress...). However, she only dates guys with lots of money who pay for all of her shit. Not trying to sound bitter, just pointing out that even ardent feminists feel entitled to financial support.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/17 07:31 PM
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Thanks for the encouragement. I was really confused by my most recent ex... I'm pretty sure she was BPD and/or NPD, which added to the confusion. The guy she was with before me sounded very Alpha, based on what she told me, and I know she was very sexually attracted to him. But after the first time I broke up with her, she told me she really liked me because I was "the kindest man she'd ever known" and that I'd "pulled her out of a toxic relationship", which is like a jackpot for a Beta White Kn…
/r/askTRP23/06/17 03:12 PM
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I hope to be where you are at someday. I'm 30 and discovered TRP after yet another failed relationship. Reading TRP concepts seems more like confirming suspicions that I had, but couldn't or wouldn't act on them. I think my problem has been more to do with assertiveness in life in general. All of that said, I think my biggest problem has been getting into LTRs with women who simply are not LTR material. I've played the part of Captain Save a Ho more than once and it's not something I want to do …
/r/askTRP23/06/17 12:04 PM
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Are you married? I'm not, but I read here because I see a lot of good advice. I think there are guys who are more likely to get cheated on and there are guys who are less likely to get cheated on. We've got some control over that with what we do. There are also girls more likely to cheat and girls who are less likely. We've got control over that too when we decide who we want to engage in an LTR with and eventually marry, if we choose to do so. But again I've never been married so I can't commen…
/r/askMRP22/06/17 12:13 AM
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be the quality of man she won't cheat on. Great quote...I'm going to remember this.
/r/askMRP21/06/17 11:08 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I feel like if I did nothing but dig into the literature and mentality of TRP, I'd be using that as an excuse to avoid rejection. I've already wasted enough time avoiding rejection, I want to throw myself out there at least a little bit as I also learn the mentality. Definitely focusing on myself and my needs and wants more than anything else.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/17 01:26 AM
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Six weeks or so. Spurred on by coming out of an awful relationship. I'm going out with friends, meeting new people (male and female), getting girls numbers and asking out at every reasonable opportunity. As I do so I come across mistakes I've made as I read various TRP literature. Before I was a lot more shy about approaching women but now I'm just saying "fuck it".
/r/TheRedPill21/06/17 12:50 AM
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I'm combining Monk Mode with trial and error. I've wasted enough time isolating myself and not taking risks. Got to make mistakes in order to learn from them.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/17 10:21 PM
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Yeah...it's nothing but an escape at this point, and it's making things worse. Thanks for your testimony.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/06/17 07:53 PM
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I'm 30 years old. I quit drinking for several years in my mid 20s and started again last year. I'm thinking about quitting again but alcohol is super ingrained in the culture/country/city I live in and it's hard enough to meet people even WITH alcohol here. But, it's starting to cause me problems again...I've been self-medicating with it following a bad breakup. Any relationship I've cultivated from fun with alcohol has ended in disaster. The disadvantages seem to be outweighing the advantages, …
/r/MarriedRedPill20/06/17 07:38 PM
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Thanks for sharing. My intimate relationships with women are basically nonexistent or unfulfilling at the moment. After getting out of an LTR recently, I've hooked up with some women since then but I really can't stand the company of these particular women,and the disadvantages seem to outweigh the advantages of spinning them. So basically I'm lifting, approaching women I'm attracted to, reading TRP material (reading Rollo's "Rational Male" book right now), and working on my depression/self este…
/r/askTRP20/06/17 06:13 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I'm you three years ago. Got out of a nightmare LTR a couple months ago, discovered TRP. On my way to recovery with TRP prescription. I feel like my life has been saved and I'm ready to start living. Stories like yours stoke the flames of my hope.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/17 05:18 PM
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3B is great advice though. It could be interpreted as ditching the woman who is disrespecting you rather than stick with her due to societal expectations. 3A comes across as a Facebook meme your mom posts, but I guess we could look at it isa not having the fear to approach women, not regretting asking out girls we really wanted to.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/17 01:20 PM
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And I don't mean the women who has morals and self respect and then act like whores when they're in the sheets. These are the women I still have anger for. My ex was a self proclaimed "feminist" who would rant non-stop against "misogyny". She even said women shouldn't jokingly call each other "whores" because it's degrading. Yet she was (privately) unapologetic about fucking a married guy for a year and loved being called a worthless whore when I fucked her (she suggested it). I don't want to ho…
/r/askTRP19/06/17 09:35 PM
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Amen to this. In fact, Trump is what woke me up to TRP and made me realize what an Alpha Male is. Like him or not (and there is plenty to dislike if you disagree with his politics) he is alpha as hell. Crying about him being a liar and a narcissist on this sub comes off like crying about the asshole starting quarterback getting a blowjob from all the hot girls in school.
/r/askTRP19/06/17 05:37 PM
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Yeah. There are contradictory theories all over the place on the fringe. I'm new to TRP and am just focused on internalizing the truth about men and women and dating that I've been blind to. It does seem like there are definitely surefire things to do to improve your SMV (diet, lifting, fashion) and internalizing the facts definitely seems to help, but a lot of the other stuff seems like it will cause me to overthink everything.
/r/askTRP19/06/17 05:33 PM
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Listen to this guy. He knows what he's talking about.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/06/17 12:37 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I'm not married, and am increasingly starting to believe that I never will be. But I would like to have a fulfilling and happy LTR at some point in my life, since the few LTRs I've had have been complete disasters. The latest one brought me to TRP. I've been in a bad place since my breakup but stories like yours give me some hope.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/06/17 10:19 PM
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I'm pretty sure my ex girlfriend/oneitis is fucking (among other people) my ex roommate/Chad. I've cut them both out of my life while still acknowledging TRP truth. She's truly a ho and he's truly a Chad...that's the way the world works, and I accept that. At the same time, I'm not going to torture myself, and neither should you. We can work on ourselves and understanding relationships between men and women without deliberately messing with our own heads.
/r/askTRP18/06/17 03:19 PM
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Yeah, same thing happened to me. As soon as I stopped considering other options and let her know how I "really" felt about her, it was all downhill from there. On top of that I didn't trust her so I became a complete mess and the relationship fell apart. My boundaries now? I won't consider a girl for an LTR if she has anything shady in her past, or suggests in any way that she can be unfaithful in an LTR.
/r/askTRP12/06/17 01:20 PM
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Here's to not letting women like that mess with our heads anymore.
/r/askTRP10/06/17 04:01 PM
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Being exclusive/monogamous is an instant surrender of power. Something I won't do again any time soon. It's fucked up that we have to think like this, but we have to. Until very recently, I thought that being exclusive/monogamous was something "sacred" that when me and a girl had feels for each other, we'd be so respectful of this bond that something like cheating wouldn't even cross her mind. Or at the very least, she would have the decency to break up with me before fucking someone else, let a…
/r/askTRP10/06/17 02:32 PM
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Just wanted to say thanks for sharing. My ex is the exact same as yours. She had a shitty attitude up until the moment I broke up with her. If she didn't cheat on me, she was going to at some point. Then she went into love/apology mode. So I got back together with her. Then after a while she got a shitty attitude again. So I broke up with her again. Then she went into love/apology mode...again. AWALT
/r/askTRP10/06/17 01:40 AM
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Ugh...yeah. I remember the first time I broke up with this girl, she came to my door crying, telling me I was the "kindest man she'd ever known". I felt great when she said that...I'd always prided myself on being a kind, caring person. And I still think those are good qualities in a person, regardless of gender. But they aren't qualities that make a woman want to fuck you, or even desire you, which I learned the hard way.
/r/askTRP05/06/17 11:06 PM
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Man, you nailed it. Why is it that lonely guys ("Nice Guys"?) build up the Captain Save a Ho complex?
/r/askTRP05/06/17 10:29 PM
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Yeah. I think part of my problem is she became less slutty with me over time (less sexually adventurous and less sexually interested in general) which I took very personally and also signaled to me that the relationship was over. I interpreted that as being my fault, which may or may not be true...I shouldn't have made her an LTR to begin with, though. When the sexual energy died, I discovered there wasn't a whole lot of reasons left to stick around in the relationship, considering what a shitty…
/r/askTRP05/06/17 09:04 PM
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I definitely think so. Actually (sadly), the only other girlfriend I've had was bipolar, and the behavior of my two exes was virtually identical. Obviously I need to work on screening women better for LTRs.
/r/askTRP05/06/17 08:34 PM
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Yeah...I think this has a lot to do with it
/r/askTRP05/06/17 08:32 PM
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Thanks man
/r/askTRP05/06/17 06:52 PM
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Not a lot, I'm working on it though. The best I've felt since the breakup is when I've gone on dates with other girls. I know I shouldn't let women give me validation but it does feel good to know a woman wants to be with me.
/r/askTRP05/06/17 03:47 PM
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Abandon ship. Save yourself some dignity and get out before she cheats on you, assuming she hasn't already.
/r/askTRP05/06/17 12:28 AM
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I started thinking about this after reading a post this week on TRP. I'm tired of being that guy complaining about guys who are "dicks" and treating women like shit while getting all the action they can handle. Actually, I've hit the genetic lottery in many ways...I'm American, tall, relatively handsome and healthy. I have benefited from life being unfair, and can create even more of an advantage for myself. I need to stop being a bitch.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 08:08 PM
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It works both ways. Last year was hooking up with some girl and trying to figure out if she was worth it as an LTR. Before I knew it she was physically wrapped around me every second we were together and texting me all the time when we weren't. It got to the point where I had to force myself to fuck her. Anytime anyone crosses that line of "too much interest", the magic dies and the other person becomes almost repulsive.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 08:01 PM
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Thanks so much for your post. I'm going to re-read this many times. There's not enough information out there for men like this. Indeed, men practically have to read stuff like this in secret. Women in general, especially feminists, and even beta men don't want literature like this to exist. Men are just supposed to suck it up and accept blame and guilt and responsibility for whatever has been cooked up for us. Fuck that.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 07:29 PM
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AF/BB? I'll look it up but what the hell is it?
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 05:45 PM
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This is how open hypergamy works: duping men into ignoring her past. "I'm not that girl any more". Epiphany phase. Can you elaborate on this more? I'm pretty new to TRP stuff and I just understood hypergamy essentially as women constantly branch swinging to the most alpha man attainable to them. Also...epiphany phase? What is this? Thank you!
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 05:35 PM
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What results have you seen from nofap? I'm like 36 hours into it. After just 24 hours I wanted to fuck the new cleaning lady in my apartment, which I take as a good thing. But I'm curious what else to expect other than being hornier.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 04:58 PM
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Good: Got back in the gym after a week off. Didn't respond to my psycho ex-girlfriend. Asked out four girls...got little reaction from two of them and am hard-nexting them. Had a decent time with another and am soft nexting her for the time being. Fucked the last one...kind of crazy but desperately wants my cock. Got back into reading TRP on a daily basis. Bad: Still mentally dealing with letting my ex-girlfriend go. Still having "life isn't fair thoughts", pissed off that my ex wasn't into me a…
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 04:01 PM
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Yup. I swallowed TRP after my last girlfriend and reading a post here titled "If You Don't Like Her Past Then Leave". I started dating my Ex immediately after she left a relationship with a married man. I told her I wouldn't even consider a relationship with her unless she ended that relationship...but I never should have tried to have a relationship with her under any circumstances. I bought into the whole "nobody's perfect", "don't be so judgmental" bullshit, and tried to take her seriously as…
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 03:06 PM
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So masturbate once every 15 days?
/r/TheRedPill27/05/17 09:17 PM
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Dark Triad streaks? Can you explain?
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 05:25 PM
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Glad to know I'm not the only one. And thank heavens places like TRP exists. Men are molded and raised to believe we're supposed to "save" women. Sadly that leads many of us into the trap of narcissistic women, who can get away with pretty much anything and people will line up to make excuses for all of their actions, from emotional abuse to cheating and everything in between. Meanwhile us men are left with our head in our hands, wondering what the hell happened, but we're not supposed to ask an…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/17 04:46 PM
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I got caught up in the White Knight mentality too. And yeah, she was into the abusive type (not me). It fucked with my head how I was stuck in a relationship with a woman who desired the type of guy that I wasn't, and would never be. I knew she would cheat on me eventually for that reason alone. The solution is to never get into a relationship with a woman like that. I saw all the red flags but I went ahead anyway.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/17 02:00 PM
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I feel like you wrote this especially for me. I just got out of a relationship exactly like this. The beginning of the relationship was pure bliss. The end was utter hell. She had an excuse for everything, and was incapable of giving a sincere apology. I could tell she was acting shittier and shittier to provoke me into breaking up with her. She was hysterical after the breakup and I've had to block her on everything, and cut off any mutual acquaintance. The oddest thing to me is how desperate s…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/17 12:41 PM
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Yep...same shit happened to me. You can have all the knowledge about TRP but still get destroyed. That's the only way to learn.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/17 12:29 PM
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My ex is also convinced there is another woman...she can't accept that I broke up with her because I was unhappy with her. Which is fucked up because prior to me she was in a relationship/"in love with" with a married guy. So she's cool with being another dude's mistress but can't handle me hypothetically finding another woman. Go figure.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/17 01:39 AM
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Good for you, man. I dumped my girlfriend a few weeks ago because I was uncomfortable with some shit in her past related to fidelity, and I felt like it was only a matter of time before she cheated on me. Plus she had a shitty attitude around me. She went crazy when I dumped her and continues to harass me and beg me to take her back. Lots of drama and guilt, like your ex. I took her back once in the past, but not this time. And man, it feels a lot better. I still deal with the irrational feeling…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/17 01:34 AM
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My two ex-girlfriends' fathers were abusive alcoholics, mostly absent, and cheated on their wives. You can imagine how I wound up on this sub. In fact my most recent ex practically idolized her father, and had no respect for her mom, which to me is really fucked up and one of the biggest (of many) red flags she had. To state the obvious...never, ever consider a girl with serious daddy issues for a LTR. You can't "save" them, and they'll devour your soul as they trick you into thinking you can. I…
/r/TheRedPill14/05/17 07:21 PM
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Wise man. I need to read this post every time I run into one of these women.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/17 12:47 AM
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I've had a two girlfriends with cutting scars. The first time around I was so naive and gullible, I tried to "save" her. She turned out to be a psycho of course. The second one I didn't realize what they were until she told me (they were on her thigh). I realized these were nuclear red flags, but I still stuck around for a little while longer. Surprise, another psycho. Never again.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/17 10:40 PM
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Girls like this don't want to be saved or loved. They want to be treated like dogs. Maybe they say they want to be loved, and guys will slobber up that empty statement, but they're just words. Believe what a woman does, not what they say.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/17 10:31 PM
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I knew something was wrong with me when I was expressing anger at the guys who were getting more girls than me despite being "assholes" and "treating women like shit". That anger was pointless, aside from inspiring me to understand why women are attracted to guys like that, and are repulsed by the opposite of that, or guys who whine about that shit. Don't get mad, get better.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 01:19 PM
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If you think North American girls are slutty, your mind will explode if you go to Latin America. I've lost practically all respect for women on account of what I've seen here.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 02:16 AM
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Yeah, you've got me dead on. This isn't the first time I've played Capt. Save-A-Ho/Victim either. The fucked up thing is, I knew that's what was going on, and I still went forward with the relationship anyway. I actually came to my senses once and broke up with her (for the first time), but got back together with her after she came crawling back to my apartment with tears in her eyes. I thought she "really loved me" and all that bullshit. Regardless, I should have known better than to get into t…
/r/TheRedPill08/05/17 10:41 PM
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LOL, this was a great story. God I love this sub.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/17 09:50 PM
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Thanks so much for this post. A couple weeks ago I broke up with the hottest girl I've ever dated because I knew it was only a matter of time before she cheated on me. Mine is a similar story to yours...I became emotionally dependent on my girl, stopped hanging out with my friends, and became a pussy in general, she started to get a bad attitude and become more distant, etc.. She had a million red flags but I ignored them all because she was hot. Thankfully I got out before I fucked up my life a…
/r/TheRedPill08/05/17 09:45 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I wish I had read this a long, long time ago. I was a #2. I broke up with my girlfriend last week but it was obvious I wanted her more than she wanted me, and that I was putting her on a pedestal. Indeed, I'm pretty sure she was hung up on her ex, who she herself put on a pedestal. I'm glad the relationship is over because she was a bitch and a poor choice for a LTR, but still it would have been nice to put some of these things into practice. Man, I love this sub.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/17 12:01 PM
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God...same shit has happened to me. Because the girl is hot I ignore all the red flags in the name of "ignoring the past" and "I have been with lots of girls, so who am I to judge?" My most recent girlfriend was complimentary towards me for "not judging her" when she told me she had a relationship with a married guy. Somehow I took this as a legitimate compliment...when you are a "nice guy", it feels good to be complimented on being "nice". Early in the relationship she asked me how many girls I…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/17 05:53 PM
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It's like a drug. Someday in the future you will look back and realize how bad the relationship really was. Sort of like quitting smoking cigarettes.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/17 05:28 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I broke up with my girlfriend this week because I had just seen too many red flags, and I knew it was only a matter of time before she cheated on me. She went crazy trying to get back together with me but I stood firm. I thought I loved her, but I was in love with the fantasy of her, as Jocko illustrates. In reality she treated me poorly, was a financial leach, a liar and a gaslighter. I clung on to the brief moments of happiness, the "good times" which were happening less an…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/17 05:25 PM
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Remember, sexual strategy is amoral. All animals do it. You're not dealing with rational thought, it's instinctual. I don't understand, can you please explain?
/r/TheRedPill27/04/17 10:47 PM
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Sorry you went through that, man. I just abandoned ship on a girl who showed red flags all over the place but I chose to ignore them. Thankfully it was only about 5 months but it never should have lasted a day. I'm done trying to "save" women and giving them a second chance. Believe what they do, not what they say.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/17 08:49 PM
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My ex constantly shit on me for voting for Trump, yet me judging her for having a relationship with a married guy was beyond the pale. I can't believe I put up with that slut.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/17 08:44 PM
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Ugh...so true. I just got done learning this the hard way.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/17 08:42 PM
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Man, you perfectly described my life. I came from working class rural America and went to university at a big party school. Although I had some good times and hooked up with a decent amount of girls, I found myself jealous a lot of the time , mainly over financial things. Simply put, money dictated what you could and couldn't do, and who you could and couldn't be with or do things with. Hot girls want to be with guys who can afford to do cool shit, live in a nice apartment, and have nice things.…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/17 01:06 PM
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From 4:10 in the video: "There's an odd poem about Solomon trying to do what the previous poem just said was impossible...to buy love. The woman rejects Solomon's offer, then the book concludes with the man and woman, separate once more, on the hunt for each other. He calls to hear her voice, she begs him to run away with her, and that's how the book ends." I'll admit I'm an amateur on the Bible, but strictly based on the commentary from this video, that sounds a lot like hypergamy to me. There …
/r/RPChristians
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Why "should" we be? I understand that women prefer sexually experienced men, and guys who have been with lots of girls, but I can't define why it's "OK" and natural for men to prefer the opposite. Of course I prefer a girl who has been with less guys but I'm so brainwashed about part of me feels like it's a double standard.
/r/askTRP
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I think most people are upset when someone makes plans with you and then disappears when you're supposed to hang out.
/r/askTRP
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Cool, thanks for the info. I take 120g within an hour after lifting every day, I assume that is appropriate based on the research I've done.
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