You all need a Red Pill about fitness and "Getting Big"

WhiteKnightFgt · 2016-05-11T16:08:58+00:00

If you take steroids and lay on a couch and do nothing YOU WILL STILL GET BIGGER.

You are never ever going to be big unless you take steroids. That might be a little hard to swallow but, imo it is no big deal.

You clearly have no clue. Please leave. You're projecting insecurity and propagating ignorance.

[deleted] · 2016-05-11T19:14:40+00:00

Eat well, lift weights and sleep.

sadbasturd99 · 2016-05-11T15:31:25+00:00

You don't sound like a guy who's ever done a stack.

sassypaella · 2016-05-11T17:35:30+00:00

Pro-tier wil be on gear, sure. The other 99% can still get fairly big, strong and healthy while being natty. Bet you are soft as fuck.

lodro · 2016-05-12T11:14:00+00:00

Guys, young men here please listen. You are never ever going to be big unless you take steroids.

Be thin, be fit. That is enough. And it is healthy.

You're overstating it severely. Any reasonably healthy young guy over 5'7 can get a physique like an MMA fighter up to welterweight (taller guys up to middleweight) by lifting and eating right for a couple years. Just talking appearance, not conditioning etc.

Or he can get it in 8 months with a hefty dose of testosterone.

If you want to get big and ripped fast, you need drugs; if you want to get unnaturally big (heavyweight fighter, WWE guy, etc) you need drugs. If you want to be normal people big and ripped and you have time, all you need is dedication, youth (under 40), and health.

There's no shame or any real problem with using testosterone either, if that's what you want and you understand what you're doing. It's the most popular and arguably the best steroid for most purposes, and it isn't that hard to figure out how to use safely.

james-watson · 2016-05-11T15:26:50+00:00

TRP is funny with regards to fitness, because it is literally all bro science.

If all it took to become Arnold was "JUST LIFFTT BROOO" we'd have a lot of Arnolds.

Genetics is real, and it's a bitch. Look up a thing called myostatin, which is the prime factor in deciding muscularity among mammals.

Homozygous myostatin mutations produce monsters like Arnold, Ronnie Coleman, Rock Johnson, etc.

It is, and has always been, genetics. If you don't have the genetics, you will never look like a bodybuilder.

Of course, anyone who lifts will get stronger and in better shape. However, they will reach their genetic peak in approx 6 months of dedicated effort. After that it's all maintenance.

Lift because it feels good and keeps you healthy. Not to look like a genetic freak of nature. Because that's a daydream far worse than any Disney princess fantasy.

RedAntidote · 2016-05-11T16:20:36+00:00

Big is subjective. Most people in this sub think Fight Club Brad Pitt is big. When that is attainable naturally and frankly small. I see where you are coming from, and to get properly big from a body building standpoint, PED's are required.

PowerVitamin · 2016-05-11T14:43:17+00:00

Sounds like the cheap way out. Since TRP is about building character and dexterity.

Pain creates the price.

I don't want to be big, I want to have the willpower of gods and the pain tolerance of a super soldier.

CoupDeGrace22 · 2016-05-11T17:02:53+00:00

Wtf is this defeatist shit?

Half right that most fitness stars do cycles,but half wrong guys can't aspire to achieve their goals,and if their goal is as silly as"look like Arnold"then you can only guess how stupid their approach is.

Hundreds of naturals out there with amazing progress,don't fall into the all or nothing mentality just cause you realised how widespread A.S are.

sadbasturd99 · 2016-05-11T16:18:31+00:00

It depends on how you define big. I know a lot of guys that are big naturally and augmented by weights. What is tough for anyone is to be natural and really big and shredded. What is tough to do as a skinny guy is add lean muscle directly and quickly without roids. I am currently bulking and then will cut because I don't want to do roids or obsess over diet. I eat well but in surplus so muscle growth is not limited that causes me to need to cut later.

NietzscheExplosion · 2016-05-11T20:38:07+00:00

Meh, depends on body type. I'm a wiry type, so I will never get "big" size muscles...but yes strong like you wouldn't believe on a "thin" man.... I love the look on people faces when they try to wrestle or get physical and realize the strength.

Working out for vanity is very temporary and a young mans BS game. Working out in your 40s will not be for vanity, usually. Most of what young men on here are after is vain shit women do.

BTW young guys, fucking behave in the gym. Do not fuckin hog more than one machine/bench/whatever and not let people work in with you, who the fuck are you? It's not prison and I'm sure as hell not your bitch, I only got one hour on my lunch. Next millennial that fucks with me like that is gonna get embarrassed like a bitch, esp if they start shit.

GosuBen · 2016-05-12T12:03:09+00:00

big, lean, natty.

Pick 2. If you wan't all three, then you best have the genetics of a god or you'll need to stick a needle in your arse.

Food, sleep and training like a machine can take a man very very far, but if you expect to hit 100kg B/W and be 'shredded' or even 'lean' at that weight, good fucking luck.

Bradley Martyn and various other social media orientated lifters have given a false perception (even if Bradley has never claimed to be natty) of what you can look like. 260lbs @ 6-8% bodyfat. You could train obsessively your whole life natty and never come close.

Although, I'd agree, being fit is enough if looks are you goal and you just want to appear good for women.

But with that in mind, working on your body is far more than just trying to look good for someone else. A strong, athletic body is the product of progressive training - pushing yourself - over a significant period of time. It is the physical manifestation of work capacity, and that same work capacity will leak into everything you choose to do.

Regardless of who the fuck uses steroids, don't be a fucking pussy and workout.

[deleted] · 2016-05-11T14:59:05+00:00

I've seen people I know don't roid get at least as big as I ever want to be. I never wanted to be a meat tank in the first place.

educatethis · 2016-05-11T22:46:41+00:00

Glad this is getting downvoted. Hate the outsider coming in and making broad generalisations.

Title	You all need a Red Pill about fitness and "Getting Big"
Author	sadbasturd99
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Comments	41
Date	May 11, 2016 2:34 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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