Keeping up with Chad

Benny757 · 2017-01-11T15:14:42+00:00

The real Chad's really aren't on this sub. Red Pill or otherwise in need of info on how to attract others to them. For example, take a random sampling of 10 guys. Out of those 10, 1-2 will be natural Chads. The remaining 8 will land in the more "average" category.

MGTOW is here to remind the 8 that in reality, you can be perfectly happy immune from the controlling biological and social/psychological effects of women over men. Once MGTOW and you really accept this reality, the "need" for a woman is no longer controlling. Once you decide and accept that women will have no control over you, you are then free.

We can't all be over 6 feet, naturally gifted, or fantastic looking. 8 out of 10 of us aren't. But we get to choose to be immune. In so choosing, we empower ourselves.

enlightenedmgtow · 2017-01-11T15:15:10+00:00

Honestly, I don't care about keeping up with Chad. My friend is a Chad. He says sex gets old. Now he may be more genetically gifted than me, but he asked me to help him build some muscle. He's gone through many women, now he wants a new hobby. I'm glad to be a mentor. I have ambitions. I have hobbies I want to be good at. That's much more fulfilling than sex. Besides, every woman is a prostitute. She might say no initially, but exchange it for the 3,000 LV handbag and she'll say yes. I rather chase finances and be financially free than to chase women. Women like to wear masks to date up. Most women probably look like beta bob in a female form even in their prime ie. 5s or 6s or 7s. But with makeup, they become 7s, 8s or 9s.

Bikemarrow · 2017-01-11T18:39:37+00:00

"Chad" is not someone to be admired or copied.

Why the fuck so many of you supposed MGTOWs almost venerate that human piece of shit is beyond me.

He is a female creation and is of no value to anyone but them.

justareflektorr · 2017-01-11T15:48:20+00:00

Being chad aint no picnic either if you kid-up some psychobitch and are forced to work some shitty job to upkeep the whores lifestyle.

geocitiesuser · 2017-01-11T15:56:37+00:00

They do it easily, they do it effortlessly. I used to live my life in a way that I was in direct competition with them, and it made me miserable.

I call it the ferris wheel of self improvement, and it absolutely destroyed me mentally. I am very slowly deprogramming myself. No matter how fit or wealthy I am, it has NEVER been good enough for women, and I realize, it never will be. It's like fighting to the death over table scraps. It's not fucking worth it. It will destroy anyone.

fuckhillaryinthebutt · 2017-01-11T15:15:35+00:00

If it makes you feel better, Elliot Rodger had a BMW.

manthrowingmyownway · 2017-01-11T16:49:24+00:00

I would consider myself very well off in the gene lottery.

But I will never be Chad.

At first, when I stumble into girls they swoon crazy, but I do not have the aura of Chad, and they figure that out quickly.

Lucky me, makes it easier to avoid making mistakes.

Paladin2903 · 2017-01-11T15:34:33+00:00

OP, don't focus to much on the height thing. The absolute obsession with it is a media creation (trying to get men to feel insecure), a trend, and women being sheep and repeating it.

Now, do I think women like height? Of course I do. However, it's not nearly as important as society makes it out to be. There are SO many other variables to account for. For instance, any muscular guy I know does pretty well with women, regardless of height.

Remember, there's a big difference in what women say they want, and what they actually want/will date. Everyone just keeps repeating "height, height, height, height," and it becomes a trend. I've seen women freely admit that they don't quite know why they went out with a guy SIMPLY because he was tall, but they did, they regretted it, and it wasn't great at all.

It would be like us dating a girl simply because she had big tits. Sure, they might be nice, but she might have fucked up teeth, a gut, beer breathe, messed up feet, and crooked eyes. Would that be worth it? No, it wouldn't. See what I mean about the other variables?

Just an observation, but most couples I see in society are ones where the guy is only 1-3 inches taller than her. Essentially, as long as you're at least a little taller than her, she will date you. Remember...big difference in what they say versus what they will date.

Keep in mind, average height for a male is roughly 5'8," and average height for a female is roughly 5'5." I believe only 14% of the male population is 6 feet and over. So, they are the exception, not the rule.

I have a friend that is 5'4," muscular, and good looking (no homo). Let me tell ya, this guy gets more hot pussy than anyone I have ever met.

At the end of the day, just try to be the best you that you can be. If you spend all of your time worrying about others, you'll drive yourself insane.

Zombocom1911 · 2017-01-11T20:25:07+00:00

If your genes were unpopular with the ladies, and they rubbed it in your face, get snipped so you never have to put your sons through the same hell you went through. I did. Get a vasectomy out of spite. Fuck the world.

Talkytalktalk · 2017-01-11T16:03:20+00:00

I've had only a couple natural Chad close friends in my life. They live in a different world than the rest of us. It's true. They were actually really nice guys too. On of them always made sure I had a date too. He could pull two girls! Although I would just talk to mine.
. Another of them I'm sure was a yy male. Strong as a gorilla, literally and naturally dark triad as Fuck. He was not as nice.

justareflektorr · 2017-01-11T16:18:36+00:00

Dont forget biological alpha male mates with the best females, if youre chad and fuck loads of dumb-bimbos who are lower then you, it isnt any accomplishment, it should be viewed relatively, say you are a 9 male, you should be viewed as a success only if you have a 10 wife/ltr/child. etc.

Fictitiousfallacy · 2017-01-11T16:22:06+00:00

I know this may sound weird, but what if a lot of the Chads out there are MGTOW and we just don't know it? What if a guy you considered a Chad is really just a very handsome and wealthy MGTOW who doesn't really value women either, but takes what's offered to him?

I've been MGTOW for sometime now and I have to be honest, this whole Chad concept has always baffled me. It seems almost as if some men are jealous of "Chad". First off, Chad is a shitty name lol, kidding. But also, why should we care about these guys so much and make such a huge deal about pointing them out? I'm not going to envy any man who women throw themselves at because I place no value in women anymore. If "Chad" has worked to improve his finances, has worked for his body and a majority of the attractive attributes he has going for him, why should I be upset or look down on him? His genetics? He couldn't control the family he was born in to. If he was born rich and isn't a total asshole because of it I'm also not going to hate him for being born rich, he couldn't control that either.

A distinction should be made between the "real Chads" who go along with our gynocentric society and are morally deficient people who treat others like shit because of their very fortunate circumstances, and the "Chads" who to some degree are responsible for their own success or at least don't act like the other Chads as mentioned above.

Maybe this isn't the best example but look at Dan Bilzerian. He's somewhat gynocentric I'd argue because he does value sex, but realistically he's 35-36 years old, worth hundreds of millions of dollars, can essentially do whatever he wants whenever he wants, gets with pretty much which ever woman he wants, but has no intention of settling down or living a married life/ giving a woman control over his finances. He invests a lot of his wealth and time back into himself and some of his friends and the way he describes it "he does exciting things and the girls are just there". This guy is for all intents and purposes a Chad, but he seems like a cool/ crazy dude I'd like to either hang out with or have a conversation with.

finally_mgtow · 2017-01-11T21:48:55+00:00

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Helikzhan · 2017-01-12T03:39:45+00:00

Yeah, I probably fall into that category being an ex-Chad. I'm the older, don't give a fuck anymore variety. I got the beautiful women and realized it wasn't worth it in the end. Happy and alone is possible.

Now I get to watch other men shackle themselves to the disease that is Traditionalism. Just think how alien it is to these guys to be able to lift off and do whatever you want, whenever you want. There is tremendous value in that which they'll never know.

You probably want to find out for yourself and that's fine. Just keep in mind the grass isn't greener.

Praecipuus · 2017-01-12T04:10:54+00:00

If what you got from TRP was to try to "keep up with Chad" to get the final prize which is women, maybe you should get back to reading the sidebar.

Fictitiousfallacy · 2017-01-11T17:13:15+00:00

Then we agree on the important part at least. And I can agree, yes in high school I may have been jealous of the kids who had money for the school lunches everyday when I surely didn't. I was also jealous when they got cars and were driving at 16 years old and I wasn't. But now that I look at these same people, 8-10 years later, I pity them. I was jealous of them being spoiled and coddled. They never had to work a job and experience the world in the same way I did, and I feel like when their parents can't pay for them anymore (if that happens, some are lucky enough to have mommy or daddy money forever) they will be grossly unequipped to deal with the reality of life and how to care for oneself.

Basically now that I've experienced life and understand what I was jealous of was their material possessions and their luxury, I'm not jealous. Because yes while those things are great, they don't really solve problems at the end of the day, and these kids were never taught to solve problems. Me however, I'm going to manage just fine and so far my track record backs this up.

wildfireboat · 2017-01-11T18:03:04+00:00

something, something ... comparing yourself to others ... something ... will destroy you ...

gods_bones · 2017-01-11T18:36:26+00:00

I've always wondered, who are the Jones family? Are they real? Why is this term coined using their name? Jones is certainly a specific surname. If it was general, it would be so, thing like "Keeping up with the Smiths" or something.

JumboJumboJet · 2017-01-11T20:55:51+00:00

Chads are actually nice guys. They are just really bold, confident, and have the masculine appeal.

mojo_juju · 2017-01-11T21:46:31+00:00

No offense, OP, but to my eyes, this reads as a defeatist mentality. I recommend redirecting your thoughts towards optimistic thinking and productive investment of time/energy/money.

Also, you make presumptions about sexually "successful" guys "they're not putting all that much effort into it." How would you know how much effort they're putting in, without tracking their time/energy/money investments? It's an assumption.

Remember that the grass is always greener on the other side.

You're welcome to shoot yourself down for being 5'8. I'm 5'9 and have plenty of success.

To those reading-- Don't take on OP's attitude. It won't be productive. Instead, take pride in yourself.

Take pride in when you make the wise decision to invest in yourself, and develop yourself into the person that you respect. When you do this, others will respect you as well. And this will yield benefits in your social life.

Tama_drummer_man · 2017-01-11T21:57:13+00:00

Im 6'3, I have a BMW M3, Bald, and not a Chad. But who the eff cares. I got that car because I loved it, not to attract pussy. And in all honesty I seem to get more attention Bald than when I had hair? meh.. Oh well. IDGAF about what women care about. Btw, I love that damn car.. Its better than any pussy I've ever had. True Story!

finally_mgtow · 2017-01-11T21:57:36+00:00

You have to stop comparing yourself to others, homie.

Fictitiousfallacy · 2017-01-11T23:07:29+00:00

That's one example of having social power/ success and wealth. I could also argue though that it wouldn't have to be you directly dealing with those people, you could hire others to do it for you.

There are also scenarios where one acquires wealth and success and social power that are different from the one you described.

Fictitiousfallacy · 2017-01-11T23:09:21+00:00

Well hey all we can do is have informed opinions after we observe the evidence available. If that's how you feel after watching that, then who am I to call you wrong. Just a matter of perception I suppose. I did concede the guy is still somewhat buying into the gynocentric model of our world because of how much he seems to value sex, I'm just glad he doesn't actually value women necessarily.

finally_mgtow · 2017-01-11T23:19:36+00:00

how will you compete with the 6'3 football star on campus? How will you compete with the guy who got a BMW for his birthday?

The funny thing is: I am 6'1 who got 2 BMW's for my birthday and I am a virgin, lol

Returnofthemack3 · 2017-01-12T00:40:14+00:00

I kind of agree on some level, but I think you're severely underestimating the effort your 'chaddy' friends put into it. You can't have a killer physique without working out regularly and watching what you eat, and you can't have a sense of style and quality grooming without putting in some effort and spending cash. Genetics can only take you so far, really.

Smitty6 · 2017-01-12T02:55:49+00:00

It's a waste of time to try to be chad. For many reasons.

Number one being that it's not worth the time and effort. Doesn't matter how hot the girls you are pulling it's not all that it's cracked up to be.

2 false rape accusations happen to men that women at first assume to be chad and when they find out are not chad regret sleeping with that guy and "rape" is a hamstered conclusion they come to on how it happened. Of course they aren't willingly sleeping with weak men.

You could possibly get one of them pregnant and then will be on the hook for child support. If your an openly rich dude, sometimes they don't sleep with you because your chad, they do it because they want access to your resources.

Lastly, it's an insane amount of work to be chad. It may look effortless to some chads but they have to deal with a lot of drama that no man wants to be a part of. Chad is "lucky" to deal with that because he is around a lot of women. Drama is just a part of that. This is without talking about the amount of time they put into the gym, working long hours, drinking lots of alcohol and doing drugs, or literally being a POS because that's the kind of chad the women are attracted to because they want to piss off daddy. Those guys don't do anything with their lives but fuck chicks. It's a lot of time/energy put into being chad.

So just think about that for a minute. Being chad may sound cool to some guys because society taught you to be cool you have to be chad. Fuck lots of women if you want to get the respect of men and women out there. Your actually way better off not giving a fuck about that and just being a guy who values his life and gets his validation within and from his own accomplishments. Guys need to learn how to tame that inner chad and channel that into producing a life they really enjoy.

thechauvinistpig · 2017-01-12T04:55:45+00:00

Sex does get old and boring and sex isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Most girls are horrendous in bed and the ones that are good are fucking batshit crazy.

2017-01-12T05:23:37+00:00

We are all just dust in the wind bro. None of this matters, we can't take any of it with us. Chad or not, we will reap what we sow, for better or worse. Maybe having lots of sex and being vain and spoiled and having a gigantic ego only results in being a shallow turd that doesn't appreciate anything or truly enjoy anything as it's just expected.

What am I saying, the grass is always greener.

finally_mgtow · 2017-01-12T08:33:02+00:00

This is male hamstering. If you want nothing to do with women so be it, but you are trying to make it sound like it's the only available option.

You don't need to be over 6 foot or have the status of a football star just to get attractive women. You can have a decent sex life, just because it's not comparable with a football star doesn't mean it's time to sulk and throw in the towel.

By your logic why bother making an income, when some people in Dubai are born millionaires, have ferraris at 16, and never have to work a day in their life. Might as well just sulk and quit your job, I guess.

Life is not fair, get over it. If you are not happy unless you have it better than everyone else, you will always be miserable.

cHILLED_1482 · 2017-01-12T04:28:19+00:00

What's the point of competing with Chad? What's the prize at the end of the day? Women?

Chad is just an idea that exists in the girls head. Granted as long as he has a few traits that the media/society or the latest Cosmo magazine deems attractive the rest is in her head.

Funny thing is there are "chads" in the gaming world, the chess world you name it. Do you people.

If you're going your own way why should chad even matter? There's no competition when it comes to working on yourself. You're moving at your own pace and most importantly you're relating to the world with a new understanding of yourself.

mikefortyfour · 2017-01-11T21:30:42+00:00

All the 6ft stuff is bullshit, I've known 'chad' types that are 5ft 5". I'm 6ft 4", about 10% body fat and I ain't got zero women coming after me, I think of myself as being attractive, but maybe i'm not, i guess i'd know if I was by the attention I should of had during my life? either way, who cares. At the end of the day we're all in the boat!

Just as an aside, once during an argument with a girl when I questioned why she was wearing so much make up and stated that was the only thing making her 'attractive', she told me I was a 2/10, so maybe that's truly where I am on the scale and I'm a deluded mother fucker ha

Title	Keeping up with Chad
Author	finally_mgtow
Upvotes	59
Comments	93
Date	January 11, 2017 2:53 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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