Does getting past the "anger phase" = never get angry?

spencers6-94 · 2016-06-05T05:52:28+00:00

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spencers6-94 · 2016-06-05T07:27:34+00:00

I think you don't get how this works.

How do you guys deal with rude women?

The same way I deal with rude men. If it's something that really doesn't matter, I shrug my shoulders, ignore them and move on. If it does matter, I say my peace, shrug my shoulders and move on.

How can you put them in their place w/o losing your shit?

What does that even mean? This assumes that everyone has a "place". Getting over the angry phase isn't about being right. It's about understanding that we were lied to, the world sucks, and you gotta deal with it. Or as the Christians eloquently put it:

 God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.

What if the woman doesn't listen?

What if a man doesn't listen?

Do you make yourself heard?

If I have something to say, I say it. Otherwise I don't.

jesterace · 2016-06-05T19:28:09+00:00

The anger stems from the realization that society has been feeding you lies and more importantly that you believed in them. Once you understand that society doesn't have your best interests in mind, and can spot all of the ways they try to convince you to set aside your self interest for theirs, although it may be annoying it becomes fairly easy to ignore.

In my opinion, the only lingering anger or annoyance comes from the frustration that only a handful of people have woken up.

Forgiving yourself is the hardest part and overcoming that anger requires introversion, a deep examination of yourself, your identity, your motivations and changing them so that you can be free. Watch a few Spetsnaz videos to see what i mean.

As for rude people in general, learn to pick your battles. Know when you're being baited and refuse to take it. Trying to talk sense to the senseless, or make rational arguments with irrational people is an exercise in futility.

arcesious · 2016-06-05T06:21:26+00:00

The 'anger phase' as it's termed here in my experience takes some time to get past, and emotional predisipositions vary from person to person so it's hard to say what 'should' come afterwards.

What I can tell you is that it helps if you've dealt with and confronted your anger before, and more to the point, emotions in general. Anger and other emotions are blunt tools that seem to serve some purpose akin to intuitive reasoning, perhaps to form the basis of it towards influencing decision making. Logical reasoning takes more time and will yield better decision making, but we have emotions and a sense of intuition precisely because much of life requires choosing complex courses of action (such as choice of words in conversation) rapidly and being entirely logical in approach would take more time than is available.

So as far as handling rude women... rude people moreover in nearly any situation. My approach is to simply tolerate them. You do not need to put anyone in their place unless if they directly interfere with your rights in some manner. Shaming behavior, displays of ignorance, attempts at emotional manipulation of all kinds, these things cannot do you real harm unless if disruptive action accompanies the words. Pity the willfully ignorant and irrational, and if you have the choice they are not worth the time to humor. Just walk away.

If the matter of confrontation is inevitable or unavoidable, I'd say it's best to stay calm in the face of emotional outbursts and stand your ground with responses based in logic. The person having the outburst will either have to slow down or lose ground in argument. Or say nothing at all. Stoicism in a calm and collected presence. You can control most disputes subtly to your advantage if you do not fall into the trap of escalation in mirroring the aggressor's tone. The feeling of being annoyed or angered by such people, or wanting to get the 'rush' of winning the argument putting them 'in their place', it doesn't help at all. In fact, it often works against one's self-interest to indulge such feelings. But of course, there often isn't much time to think in heated situations, which is why it's ideal to go over scenarios and prepare ways to approach difficult situations logically - think extensively about what to say and prepare ahead of time so you can react as fast as someone running on emotions and intuition if necessary.

Self awareness and being objectively self-critical help quite a bit for reducing propensity for anger too. It's not even necessarily your enemy either. Directed and controlled it can be changed into something productive.

"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight." - Sun Tzu

LordPorker · 2016-06-05T10:34:41+00:00

You become indifferent to the whole setup, ie the skewed dating market, women walking off with cash settlements, etc.

How do I deal with rude women? I bend her over my knee and give her a ruddy good spanking!

grufx · 2016-06-05T12:17:11+00:00

In public avoid rude or out of control women at all costs. Especially if you are prone to anger.

Part and parcel with the city I live in now (not my city of origin) is this bizarre tradcon fantasy where things are "old fashioned" and people "have manners". Which about 95% of the time realistically translates to obnoxiously rude women walking around demanding they be simped for and telling men off about how rude they are when they have not observed the invisible rules of etiquette that only the in-group of the city knows and subsequently only exist here and nowhere else on the planet.

Few weeks ago some mouthy, chubby bitch decided to let me know that I had violated one of these rules. So I just stared her in the face, dead panned expressionless. So she shut her mouth, turned around and walked far away. Few years ago I would have went off screaming, which in a city full of tradcuck chumps, white knights and manginas looking to strut their stuff could have easily turned into a trip to prison. And I see this shit every day in daylight hours. Toxic women out in public very loudly looking to start something with men and initiate violence for no real reason. If they tried this shit at 2am, in an area of the city not heavily trafficked by chumps or a few cities over these women would be stomped to death and they know it.

Just assume women everywhere are specifically looking to provoke you at all times. They love the anger you exhibit, the drama and having the ability to misbehave without censure. They are not worth even the expenditure of thought to even be slightly bothered by them. You can either avoid them or find a female MMA fighter or boxer with anger issues to hang out with at all times and dispense the violence on your behalf but you however regardless of size or ability, can do nothing except wind up in a cell.

User-31f64a4e · 2016-06-05T14:09:50+00:00

I'm having trouble understanding what's supposed to happen after getting through the anger phase. Does that mean that you never get angry about anything?

This doesn't refer to anger generally. It refers to anger at women, once you discover that you have been conned and mistreated and discriminated against.

What happens next is that instead of getting triggered, you just go on about your life and don't obsess so much about what total shits women (as a group) are.

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At the end you ask a lot about tactics, as though there were magic bullets for social interaction. Really, just live your life and it will come to you. You can read up on The 48 Laws of Power* and go to theRedPill subreddit and read all about "shit testing" if you are looking for formulas. Do that if you want to, but they won't be effective until your head is in a place where you feel unconditionally good about yourself. Once you do, then the rest comes naturally anyway.

aanarchist · 2016-06-05T16:16:44+00:00

anger is an emotion, among the spectrum of emotions. if you're never gonna get angry again, you're never gonna feel happy again either. emotions can't be cherry picked, if you suppress one the rest become suppressed to.

ryeshoes · 2016-06-05T08:09:37+00:00

It's up to you as an individual. I still get upset that unfairness happens, but avoiding marriage and children is saving me lots of money. I also do whatever the hell I want.

Thus, nothing really depresses me.

IAmNotAlwaysRight · 2016-06-05T19:13:30+00:00

Its about finding ways to benefit from your anger. Anger can either be used constructively or destructively. Arising lots of knowledge of cause and effect and lots of knowledge of benefit and harm.

iamlikethewindbaby · 2016-06-05T19:55:18+00:00

Anger is a gift.

My anger didn't go away so much as it transformed. At first my anger was a result of taking things personally. Now my anger is more focused on tge impact female bullshit is having on our society.

I've become very "sexist", but really Ive just independently come to conclusions that men learned ages ago.

Women aren't interested in anything beyond themselves. Society can not evolve, it only decay so long as womem are in charge (bad news they currently are).

They need to be taken out of the workforce and have their voting rights reneged, for everyone's sake.

Future_Eater · 2016-06-05T06:48:31+00:00

No you'll get angry, the key is to carry the anger with you, not let the anger carry you.

Chev__Chelios · 2016-06-05T13:04:03+00:00

No. Never getting angry means you've mastered Bhuddism or some other form of transcendence. For us mere mortals, getting angry is part of the human condition. Also, I don't believe in an anger phase as promoting such an idea isn't healthy.

Title	Does getting past the "anger phase" = never get angry?
Author	spencers6-94
Upvotes	10
Comments	20
Date	June 5, 2016 5:11 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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