I think the hate is misplaced (rant/idea)

bonusfruit · 2016-05-23T20:58:01+00:00

It is reasonable to expect women to overcome their base instincts and to feel a degree of indignation when they fail to do so. Men have made radical changes to their instinctual behavior thru the ages in order to treat women far better than they merit. All humans have the capacity to think and overcome impulse. No excuse ought to be made for shitty female behavior

iWombay · 2016-05-23T20:49:18+00:00

Speaking for myself -- I need constant reminders that women are self-interested, and that their interests are not aligned with mine.

Hence, I need to constantly read "hating on feminism" type material... it's just a reminder...

ryeshoes · 2016-05-23T21:24:33+00:00

How can we hate them for acting in their own self interest?

Either we accept that this is female nature and thus no different than a dog that bites, or we hold women up to the standard of a rational, moral actor that happens to have access to various social and legal benefits that allow for their incredibly privileged position

So yea, everybody acts in their own rational self interests, but if a man goes around raping women we don't just go "ahaha look at Bill go. You get laid, Bill bravo!" do we?

ChipOffMyShoulder · 2016-05-23T22:07:58+00:00

Always understand your post before submitting. Shitpost btw

Mitchell78 · 2016-05-23T20:54:57+00:00

You are right, your post was poorly written.

vigz21 · 2016-05-23T20:55:58+00:00

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the majority of the blame for the current situation in society regarding women and relationships belongs to MEN. It is the hordes of blue pilled mangina faggots that have elevated women to godess status and allowed feminism to run as rampant as it has. All because they are desperate for poon.

When all is said and done, the buck stops with men. We run society, we are the ones who die in wars, we are the ones who build, we make the rules. The nature of women - it is what it is. But over the last hundred years men have become progressively more beta and pandering, allowing female nature to run rampant.

Nothing will change until there is either a societal collapse or men collectively get their shit together and take charge. I'm thinking the former will happen rather than the latter.

IllusionDestroyer666 · 2016-05-23T23:24:13+00:00

Women in the right environment know how to behave. Blaming it on their instincts is BS. They have frontal lobes on their brains as well, and should be expected to use them.

iWombay · 2016-05-23T21:48:57+00:00

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Mgtowmike35 · 2016-05-24T01:46:57+00:00

I agree. Women are only as good as society allows them to be.

They are a lesser evolved version of us; children. There's a reason it's called mankind. Women have never evolved to the point of man, simple as that.

csehszlovakze · 2016-05-24T07:09:45+00:00

not some BP or woman sympathizer

no, you're a RP woman sympathizer :)

Can you hate a fish for wanting to swim or a bird wanting to fly? They're just following their programming and so are women.

does a fish have the capacity to not be like this? no. a woman? hell yes, they've done it for centuries!

women wouldn't have agreed to the monogamous system we have in place of they didn't need shelter and protection from men

they didn't have any choice
chimps are pretty fine without "shelter"

oldredder · 2016-05-24T07:09:51+00:00

Now, I see a lot of you guys hating on women and feminism and it got me thinking. How can we hate them for acting in their own self interest?

Because it's bad for us. I hate everything that's dangerous to me. Self-interest for her? Double-hate.

Wise the fuck up and stop being a threat or there shall be vicious hatred.

DrunkWiseman · 2016-05-23T21:55:57+00:00

Hey man, that's a good summary of it. What you describe is I think exactly what is happening. Women are acting on instinct, and looking for the alpha male, as they would in nature. In comparison, men had ALOT more time to overcome their instincts, and yet, I would hardly say many men have. Most men still pride themselves in getting laid and I know many men who the first thing they do after getting laid is running to me and telling me about it like it's some big accomplishment.

If men don't think much of women, that they are just lesser creatures capable only of acting on instinct, then they have only themselves to blame for breaking the system. If you bend over backwards for poon and diminish masculinity, this is the result. Couple that with constant narcissistic reinforcement for women through social media, and basically, good luck dating someone you find attractive. Most men I know date down, way down.

What do I think of women? I think they are fine. At this point you have to realize there is a certain way you have to deal with women. You can't treat them like men and expect the same thought processes and rationale to apply. I believe that AWALT is a thing, but I also believe, if you really wanted it, to make it work with a woman. Real MGTOWs understand this, and they understand that in the current climate, coupled with harsher economic times, the disappearance of the importance of family, and the temporary nature of many aspects of our lives, that building such a relationship is not worth the time or effort. Couple into it that the risk for divorce is immensely high, and for a man getting into a relationship and marriage is a rather sizeable and potentially life-changing, irreversible risk.

Falkrik · 2016-05-23T20:50:54+00:00

I agree. I personally think it's irrational to get angry at or with women - at least over extended periods of time.

We are all humans trying to find out what to do in a world that seems way too large for us.

Everyone has their own fears, anxieties, strengths, weaknesses, experiences, etc. We should be working together rather than competing to beat each other in areas such as sex, money, power.

I understand WHY we do it, our natural imperative is very strong. It's also part of how we are brought up and what we are taught.

Pretty much all of my deep connections with women turned out a little rough but there are still lots of good and genuine people out there.

We generalise women to make points, that's fair. But just like that not all men are rational saints, not all women are cheating whores.

This world is huge and I believe rather than getting angry at women who are literally playing life with the cards dealt to them, we should try and focus on the good and spread positivity. Going our own way will definitely cause some change as more men awaken to reality but we shouldn't be dwelling on how "bad or evil" women are (or people in general). That kind of negativity will just breed more negativity.

We as men should be actively trying to make this world better, within our power obviously. Of course there's nothing wrong with men that don't want anything with it. I just think negativity is such a waste of energy. You literally have to put in effort to complain/be angry/be negative so why not just be positive instead? More benefits that way. Plus the more positive an individual is the better they will feel themselves.

As much as women "bug" me at times with how they are and behave, it's ridiculous to simply "write off" half of the world's population just because they don't have the same values/traits we men have. There's a reason for us having different traits. We are supposed to compliment each other.

Title	I think the hate is misplaced (rant/idea)
Author	iWombay
Upvotes	0
Comments	39
Date	May 23, 2016 8:31 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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