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[–][deleted] 63 points64 points65 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. As a man of approximately average male height (and women don't let me forget that average = SHORT), I have no issue with women's preference for taller men. However, they must respect my preference for women of healthy body mass.
And although preference for height is just an aesthetic decision, weight influences a lengthy set of health issues. Women's preference is for aesthetically pleasing, my preference is for physical health. And yet I'm the one who is shallow? Explain how this works.
[–]Ultramegasaurus41 points42 points43 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
And although preference for height is just an aesthetic decision, weight influences a lengthy set of health issues. Women's preference is for aesthetically pleasing, my preference is for physical health. And yet I'm the one who is shallow? Explain how this works
Not only that, but weight is changeable while height is pretty much not.
[–]ItsCold_ItsCold11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
...height is pretty much not.
Yeah pretty much.
[–]the-tominator4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The medieval torture called 'the rack' probably can make you significantly taller, but at the price of lengthy, extreme pain and lots of dislocations.
[–]wordsworths_bitch1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is scoliosis correction surgery, but that's only if your back is f'ed up.
[–]Ultramegasaurus0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If that's irony, there ARE these crazy surgeries that enlogate your shins or something.
[–]soelc323 points24 points25 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
women don't let me forget that average = SHORT
This is a great observation. Colttaine gathered some data in the beginning of his video Biology Culture Ideology on how females of mammalian species view the average male as intrinsically below average due to hypergamy.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Don't stop there, they have to be tall AND rich. Now we're talking 1%. Since polygamy isn't legal I'm not quite sure how they're gonna all get what they want.
[–]ItsCold_ItsCold0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Rich matters little for a quick alpha fux.
[–]oldredder0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
only for those who've never touched it. For those who have they'll stick to it
[–]Five_Decades0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Doing that math, only about 20% of people are 6' or taller, only about 10% of men make 100k or more (and most of those men probably fall in the 100-150k range). Lots of women want both.
Just using those 2 metrics women have disqualified 98% of men. And I know guys who have both these things (I only have 1 myself) and they struggle too. Being 6' with a 6 figure income barely makes you visible with today's women. You also have to have a good body and a good face among other things. Due to the internet and all the thirsty men there, women now thing there are an infinite supply of men out there and all they have to do is wait for the most elite 1% to show up.
this is normal for evolution. It's not the competition that's a problem it's the attitude of women, the harsh poison they are, the attack they bring to men they don't like. It's OK for women to be shit and unkind. It's not OK to end it in false rape accusations or tell police a man beat her up just to spite him and hold power over him.
Women do vicious evil things to men that men would never do to them.
That elite 1% of men aren't ever going to show up for those women. The elite men know how to ensure women act right or act like hookers and they have the money and power to put women in line to keep it that way with almost no one questioning it.
A woman thinks she has power for having a vagina but a man with money has the power to have that woman beat hard by other women or have drugs planted on her and then call the police and have her arrested.
close enough to legal now.
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea, no kidding.. 15% of men are over 6' tall.. Women say they want a guy over 6'.. If you bring up the 80/20 rule they say your full of shit..
OK, 85/15 then ladies, my bad
[–]Indigo_Monkey0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
pfft... you can't expect the average woman to use logic. What were you thinking!?
[–][deleted] 60 points61 points62 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Putting entitled cunts in their place is a no brainer and should be mandatory whenever the opportunity presents itself. If only more men had the balls to do it.
[–]LetsGoAllTheWhey33 points34 points35 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Besides, it's fun to do.
[–]Dren_Fetter41 points42 points43 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I want to know how she reacted.
[–][deleted] 71 points72 points73 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She probably won't respond because she's got 100 other guys to talk to...
[–]kireol19 points20 points21 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
oh. She will respond. When she hits the wall and guys start finding excuses to not hang out with her anymore.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP please deliver
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Next time, a man shouldn't just ask about her weight, but ask about how big her tits are and how big and round her ass is. A lot of people on r/tinder argue that she clearly isn't "fat". That may be true, but asking about her boob and ass size will leaver her angered because she won't have control over such flaws, and people will shame a man for daring to have such physical standards. She can't change how big her tits are and how round her ass is no matter how much squats she puts in, but these days there is a fake boob and ass epidemic so that wouldn't matter in a few years time anyway, as more and more women are getting surgery to fix their physical flaws and get the hourglass, big boobs, round ass body type.
For example, look at this square ass whale:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3412731/Teen-Mom-2-star-Kailyn-Lowry-emerges-Miami-Beach-hotel-sighting-Snapchatted-plastic-surgery.html
She went from a square shaped body, flat ass, and rolls everywhere, but with the new procedure, it seems she got a more attractive body shape and a bigger, rounder ass. These procedures will get better and better over time, and women will fool men into thinking they're natural, as they try to snag men that they wouldn't have been able to snag with a square ass body and rolls of stomach fat.
[–]oldredder1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've seen women actually put the work in and it shows: they can re-shape their boobs & ass with squats, cardio, etc. But few will put in the work.
[–]WhoreObliterator6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
to be fair she is tall as fuck
[–]FritzLn1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
yea she's a giant. it's when they're 5 foot 1 and demand 6 foot 3 that it gets ridiculous. and i doubt this woman would be happy with 6 foot, because with heels on she'd be taller. and we know how these women HAVE TO HAVE THEIR HEELS !
[–]WhoreObliterator5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah the short bitches who demand tall guys baffle me
tall man is almost like a status accessory to them
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[–]garlicextract-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
she will most likely never meet a guy taller than her in her entire life and on the insane chance she does
This is insanely wrong, there's almost no doubt she will meet a guy taller than her (there are like 1000x more 6'7" males than females, in fact possibly more)
but the thing is the 6'9" guy is probably going to want to go for a 6' - 6'2" girl at the tallest.... AND he has the option of all the 5'0" girls who fetishize height. Your premise is wrong but the conclusion is accurate.
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[–]garlicextract0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I have a friend that's 7' tall (claims to be, he could be 6'11" possibly), have had a coworker that was 6'8", and during that time also met several guys in the 6'6"+ range at the same company.
6'8" is rare but certainly nothing like a "not even once in a lifetime" thing. More like a once in a year thing at most.
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[–]garlicextract0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Where does your .0004% >6'7" statistic come from?
and if you read my post you would see that I know 2 people above 6'7". Two. And these are people I actually know, as in I could call them up and have a conversation. We're not even talking about people I've just seen or briefly met.
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[–]garlicextract0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Where are you getting these statistics from again?
And I simply took their word when I asked them their height. I didn't demand they lie down and measure them with a ruler. I had one coworker in my group that claimed to be 6'8", another in a neighboring department was 6'4", and I knew 2 other men in the company claiming to be 6'6".
My extremely abnormally tall friend claims to be 7'0".
Anyway, using standard deviation statistics, if you only saw one man randomly sampled from the U.S. every single day, you would expect to see a >6'7" (3.5 standard deviations above average) man approximately once every six years.
That's seeing one man. Just one. every day. It is exceedingly, insanely unlikely for the 6'7" woman to never meet a taller man than her.
[–]ConvertsToMetric0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]oldredder-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No. The premise is right. The number of such men is so rare she'll probably never meet one.
[–]garlicextract-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The premise isn't right, there are millions of 6'8" guys in the united states alone. The number of women that tall is in the dozens. It's exceedingly unlikely she'll never meet a man taller than herself.
"millions" as in ... 0.3 millions out of 350 million in the population? Maybe it's 0.03 millions?
The number of people who are 6'8" is THOUSANDS at best. Most people will never get near that height due to race and nutrition and over-all inherited traits not just to do with race.
So far in 40 years of my life and traveling all across my country and to Europe I have met ZERO people 6'8". Ever.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When that happened with me I just walked away. Now that I think about it, maybe I was being even more cruel by not showing to them how they were digging their onw grave with these atitudes.
[–]FRedington1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I don't understand women's obsession with height. Is it because they want the guy to be able to check for predators across the high grass?
I'm 1.86 and honestly it gets in a way sometimes. All my life I've talked down to people. It's annoying.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
They don't understand either... it's just a consequence of evolutionary biology. She's following a very old, and very successful reproductive strategy largely preserved and inherited because it has worked for many millions of years. It's a lizard-brain thing... ya know the older part of the brain which regulates the basics... instincts.
And if we are to be fair curators of our scientific understanding of biology and how we got here, then she ain't wrong. Evolution rewards success with reproduction. Bigger and badder = protection and prosperity... for a very long time.
And those people had badass kids etc... etc...
[–]TrialsAndTribbles5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Height is not just a capacity to protect/defend, it is also an indicator of overall health and access to quality food, which implies she and her offspring will share in such bounty if she jumps on that cock. This is why the average height of people has been steadily rising since the mid 18th century.
[–]oldredder1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It is not.
She doesn't know the average, working around it is subconscious.
It's genetics that makes one tall and some are exceptionally tall. Sure, you can fail to grow an additional 3 inches from a life time of surviving malnourishment. It won't be a foot or two difference. Those who are too tall won't be good fighters or hunters because they're too big, too awkward, bad center of gravity for fights.
[–]TrialsAndTribbles-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok.
at some point it becomes self-feeding in a local-optima that isn't globally fit, however. In a world where the tallest things aren't predators and trees but are the buildings we've made and the war-machines we've built, this height factor is meaningless now.
How it is now: no, most of the bad-ass people, fighters in the world, never were taller than 5'10. The ones who are the most vicious fighters in underground tunnels, in jungles, etc., were all around the 5'5 mark, some shorter.
Women chasing men who have to be 6 foot tall is like men chasing women who must have DD size tits. It's absurd.
[–]thrownaway_MGTOW1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's because they want to wear high heels.
Also, taller men, just like "good looking men" tend to make more money (there's no real MERIT to either of those, but they're true on average).
[–]Five_Decades1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It is a mix of resources and health. Women at their core want men with good health and men who can give them resources/protection. They want the good health because it means the man will survive/thrive and his kids will also survive/thrive, and they want the resources because getting pregnant and raising a kid is very resource intensive (women also care about fidelity, making sure a guy won't abandon them and the kid but that is arguably a subset of resources. Resources are no good if the guy doesn't share them).
Height symbolizes both. You can't get tall if you are malnourished or full of parasites (most men who are these things never grow above 5'6" or so). Plus in the savannahs we evolved in, height implies strength and ideally fitness.
So that is basically it. Genes and Resources.
[–]the-tominator0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Height shows wealth. I never thought of that before.
It certainly doesn't any more, in a developed country at least, but that doesn't matter - we haven't adapted/evolved to fit 'modern life' because that takes a very long time, and the plentiful supply of food is VERY recent (hence why high obesity rates are also VERY recent). So, in our deep brain, height still means access to plentiful food, which means wealth/power/resources.
Health is also debatable in today's world, but again, we didn't evolve in today's world (and it'll be some LONG time before we do adapt to it in any deep way). In the past it would have shown absence of disease - specifically parasites as others have mentioned. Parasites take a share of your nutrients and so you grow less, simple. However, parasites aren't a problem any more so this is no longer a particular sign of health (especially as excessively tall people suffer negative health consequences - bone and joint problems and shorter life expectancy). But that does not matter, that's only very recent.
The key to understanding basic human behaviour is to try to understand how the world was a long time ago. Because all our modern life is less than a century old, and even all recorded civilisation doesn't go back more than several millennia (which would allow, and probably has caused, some adaptation, but not a full change of who we are). So this is the key here, to understand basic (but complex and mysterious) things like emotions, sexual behaviour, violence, family bonds, social/friend bonds etc.
[–]SweatDaddy4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good for him. We need to assert ourselves and redefine the male identity.
[–]DforDeadpool4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She was girl-gaming him and he just killed it. Lol.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP is the real mvp 👏
[–]thrownaway_MGTOW4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Love the WEIGHT question. About the only thing that would be even funnier would be to demand a copy of her most recent STD panel...
You know, just to make sure she's not a "typhoid Mary", because then, well you might have to stop "talking".
[–]Asari_Lover0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you've got even one, this conversation is done.
[–]thrownaway_MGTOW0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chlamydia, Chlamydia, say, have you Chlamydia?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm 5'10". Getting older so closer to 5'9" now.I genuinely feel for shorter guys because yeah this is pretty common.
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[–]the-tominator1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's nothing wrong with having preferences based on height (and I say that as a short guy). However there is also nothing wrong with having preferences based on weight or body fat % or waist-hip-ratio or whatever. There is great hypocrisy in the fat-positive crowd. They'll say you hate fat people, but in my case I don't care if someone is fat or not - it doesn't matter - but I do not want to have sex with a fat woman (or man, but that's for different reasons).
Some Tumblr types also think it's wrong to have a preference for race too. I really don't understand that at all. Again, it doesn't make you racist to prefer to or not to have sex with a particular race of people in general, just because you're more attracted to a certain kind of skin or face shape.
I think these opinions are formed by people who have been rejected by someone they had a major crush on because of their weight or race. And they understandably get pissy about it. But you cannot change people's sexual preferences, they're pretty deeply ingrained. I also think the fat-positive movement specifically comes out of a certain laziness or lack of discipline that is quite common now. I feel sorry that those people weren't taught to control themselves when they were young, and so will have a hard time now learning to say 'no' to excessive quantities of food, and may well not be able to and give up. This is possibly a product of people's upbringing and I don't really blame that on them. But for God's sake, stop bashing most people for having standards! If you want someone with no standards, go and find one (they do exist), but there will be a reason why they don't have standards, and you might not like whatever it may be.
TL;DR Am short. Don't mind people having height preferences because I'm not a bastard. Don't mind people being fat, but stop telling us to be attracted to you, we can't choose! My problem with these people is their hypocrisy rather than their fatness, but they'll try to just say we hate fat people when that's absolutely not true.
[–]Lhtfoot0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bahahahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!! I'm dying!
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