Beautiful nice women break my entire MGTOW outlook

Heliothis · 2016-01-24T16:47:54+00:00

Besides what people already said, I would suggest the quintessential wanking test. If you would still enjoy her company after wanking, than go for it, just take the precautions repeated again and again here.

RandolphTheWarlock · 2016-01-24T17:31:37+00:00

Completely on board with all you had to say AND very pleasant? That's called female game. You don't see it as much these days because women are such spoiled cunts, and men are such desperate wannabe cuckolds, that they don't even have to use it most of the time. But when they do, it goes like this:

If a woman likes you, she'll try and become you. All of your beliefs become her beliefs. All of your hobbies become her hobbies. She'll love your favorite movies. She'll love your favorite music. She'll love almost anything in order to attract your interest. It's a game of manipulation carried out almost unconsciously on her part, and for the explicit purpose of making you think you found a unicorn.

The trick to sales isn't to sell something to someone, it's to get that someone to sell it to themselves. Once they do that, there's nothing they won't do to ensure completion of the transaction.

Same thing women do when they run game. It's a lie and a con job.

Teflon0819 · 2016-01-24T19:32:46+00:00

Every single man who got screwed over by a woman thought the exact same things that you did about the women who ultimately screwed them.

Just something to think about.

gundahir · 2016-01-24T15:59:47+00:00

I think there is no mgtow "for the most part". It is like living or being dead, binary. Date her if you want but dont get yourself screwed. Use the red pill knowledge to protect yourself. This means: pay nothing; dont be the nice guy mangina; dont believe the "i am on the pill" bs => condom always, no exception; no marriage/whatever contracts; no cohabitation

And dont forget whatever you feel there is basically a drug to make you impregnate her. No idea what your dating experience is so far but chances are ultra high that this positive side will get crushed by negative things you dont know about her yet as soon as you date her for a while. Especially if you go the blue pill route of becoming her slave. AWALT, after all. But yeah if you have the spare time to deal with the dating bs then go ahead. Better than sitting there every day regretting not trying it. Once you are done with it you wont have those regrets anymore. You wont ever feel like "robbing yourself of something" again.

just fyi: i do date, but do so cautiously, because I know about the potential damage. i do not pay them anything though and invest little time in it only. i dont do the "spend whole day together" stuff. one short activity/meeting, bang, thats it. fun fact: funny enough but they seem to like it when you are always "busy". signals that you got better things to do and are higher value than them. once their bs becomes too much ( which happens rather quickly because my bs tolerance is very low ) i drop them. they know I do that so they keep their bs in check usually.

genethedog · 2016-01-24T17:22:09+00:00

It's called a Crisis of Faith man. Everyone has them. And it's easy to get cloudy when you're having some drinks around a beautiful woman. That is, after all, their main power. What if she was "short, fat, very pleasant, and a talented piano player."

I have a feeling that you probably wouldn't be to bent out of shape about it if she was a 3.

It's not hard to be MGTOW when there are no options. But we can't help our natural instinct to want to bang hot women when we see them. Just remember, in the end, AWALT. You might get with her, have a great time, awesome relationship while it's hot, get sucked into marriage and have a couple kids but in the end, 70% of them will get bored and leave and take you for your cash and prises.

UneducatedLoser · 2016-01-24T17:33:23+00:00

I invoke /u/thrownaway_MGTOW's comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/3n7cyh/slug/cvls29r

lostapwbm · 2016-01-24T18:31:52+00:00

she was completely on board with all I had to say.

Uh-huh.

Women are easy to love and hard to like. That moment of emotional connection, and of your testosterone clicking with her estrogen, that's the love. That's the junkie's first high that you'll keep chasing through the bullshit she puts you through. You want that "feeling."

I was always a romantic

I'm of the opinion that many MGTOWs were romantics in that we believed in "romantic love." Then we figure out that women will take that desire for the connection, for the first high, and use it to exploit us until nothing is left of us but bones and tears.

MGTOW is the triumph of reason over emotion. We realize that high and chasing the high is not worth the price. It is kicking that bio-chemically-induced love heroin cold turkey.

oldredder · 2016-01-24T16:40:38+00:00

That's a thing they do. Some believe it but most will just pretend to believe it. They'll strike you twice as hard as punishment for being a misogynist.

You fall easily for such tricks. You're young. You'll learn.

I feel no such things. I am not fooled. I've seen other men fooled and seen their lives after and I know that is destruction.

2016-01-24T16:16:30+00:00

Just like you can't have happiness without sadness, daytime with nighttime, and so forth... you can't have strength without weakness. Fwiw, I struggle with what you describe all the time.

2016-01-24T16:42:52+00:00

go for it, these opportunities are just too fun and exciting to pass up when you are young. Dangerous? yes, just protect yourself and don't get into a situation (marriage, cohabitation, pregnancy, etc) that screws you long term. Keep your own space, definitely don't see her more than 2-3 days a week. If its still good after a couple years and you've fucked her 200 times well..... Just remember, she believes everything she says and ALL women will change their beliefs, their minds given enough time. She doesn't wants kids and wants to pursue her piano music??? 5-10 years from now that will all be out the window and everything will change and her hamster have absolutely no problem rationalizing these huge changes. And the huge impact these changes could have on you?? It will mean NOTHING to her. That's just the sad facts of life.

Greetings1 · 2016-01-24T20:45:21+00:00

Dude. The women who reject feminism are the ones you have to watch out for the most. Women fake the whole tradcon thing until they snag a man who will simp for them then BOOM feminist overnight. When you don't go along with this new transformation, they will just tel you to grow up. Now their new change is YOUR problem. NAWALT my ass. As fellow men, we have ALL entertained this notion before.

When feminism fails a few years from now OP, WE WILL ALL BE ENCOUNTERING WOMEN WHO WILL TELL US THE TRADCON BS! A sudden influx of NAWALTs right? No, just more chameleons to ignore. You will get out of this phase. Give it time.

carrotforscale · 2016-01-24T17:48:39+00:00

Sign in gift shop: "Pretty to look at, a pleasure to hold, but if you break it, consider it sold."

Some things done cannot be undone. Women, for example.

2016-01-24T18:32:52+00:00

Musicians usually have a high partner count. She may already have several fwb right now and has fucked over 500 dudes. She enjoyed your attention at the party. Don't get too invested in a woman who may change men as often as she changes her shoes.

ransay3277 · 2016-01-24T18:38:11+00:00

As I have said this before... MGTOW doesn't mean you avoid women, you just avoid their BS.

csehszlovakze · 2016-01-24T20:10:55+00:00

Research the term "Female Chameleon". I think there are a few MGTOW videos on it on YouTube, Sandman's is the one that comes to mind.

precisionclear · 2016-01-25T21:03:39+00:00

Meet her friends and family, and see how she treats you under those circumstances. She can't create a facade then.

bonusfruit · 2016-01-24T19:49:41+00:00

The lure of women won't ever go away fully. You shouldn't expect it to

OldRoad · 2016-01-25T06:46:56+00:00

Of course I don't usually think about it this way, but maybe it's a benefit to me that I don't easily attract women. If I did, it would be a lot tougher to walk away from dating and relationships. It's much easier to walk away when you doubt there's much for you that you are walking away from anyway.

Except for one thing: I HAVE had the experience of a romantic relationship that went bad, with a bad breakup. Have you been through one of those? That is the second thing that keeps me from seriously getting into romantic relationships again. It really ruined my optimism.

Obviously, what you do is basically your decision. At the very least, I would suggest keeping in mind some of the experiences that people have posted on here about their past relationships. You can at least minimize your risks as much as possible, and watch out for signs that the relationship may not be going in a good direction for you.

It's really sad that we live in a world where people have wants, but often no way of ever having the things they want out of life, no matter how hard they would work for it. It would be nice if my original idea of what romantic relationship I would be able to have actually existed, for me. But I don't believe it does. Just another one of those pieces of philosophical unfairness that is part of life.

Anyway though, I wouldn't feel bad for still finding a woman attractive. Just be careful.

2016-01-24T18:29:22+00:00

Yeah nothing wrong with it IMO. As long as the relationship is on your terms and you don't end up getting oneitis & making bad decisions (marriage) under the haze of lust/love for the first decent woman you've met in a while. Remember you have only just met her, I'm sure there's a lot you don't know about her.

MGTOW doesn't have to be a permanent solemn vow like a nun or a Buddhist monk. It can be used to just gain some clarity and perspective.

Just be wary and don't throw your life away for a relationship.

lawrencewidman · 2016-01-24T21:17:03+00:00

Normally women are that way because they had a good father figure and respect men. Unfortunately, those cases are becoming fewer and fewer. Keep in touch with her and Good Luck.

repoman · 2016-01-25T05:34:59+00:00

You should definitely marry her and live happily ever after.

/remindme 1 year

Underballbuttered · 2016-01-26T22:31:00+00:00

I feel ya. I am literally never getting married period unless the marriage laws dramatically changed and even then, you don't need marriage to have monogamy and I also believe my dick shouldn't be monopolized by one person for the rest of my life just because we love each other. Im not opposed to relationships just always remember to use my head and never put them before myself.

yourmommysnightmare · 2016-01-27T05:52:33+00:00

MGTOW isn't about her intentions, it's about deciding what to do based on acknowledging the risks vs rewards and the tilted playing field.

It's about the weapons others discount but are at her disposal (cops, courts, various mobs - feminist hate mob, mangina mobs) that let her do great damage for any perceived sleight, just plain PMS or not liking what happened last night

Isaiah4verse1 · 2016-01-24T16:57:29+00:00

Congratulations on being a fly caught in the honey pot.

You are no mgtow

Title	Beautiful nice women break my entire MGTOW outlook
Author	DrunkWiseman
Upvotes	24
Comments	47
Date	January 24, 2016 3:43 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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