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[–]Skeetskeet1979251 points252 points253 points 6 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Stop impregnating them. The benefits come from spitting out Chads demon seed. But the problem is that Chad and Tyrone don’t pay, beta taxpayers do.
[–]Sir_manalot112 points113 points114 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
It isn't just that though. We pay for them to exist in many other ways.
The opportunities they receive in college, the work you must do to pay for her to play job, etc.
It is why the whole "you are not entitled" argument is stupid when it is used against men. Men are literally paying for woman to exist.
[–]markus_brutus66 points67 points68 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Also men are protecting all their liberties and way of life. The reason they are not sucking dick for dear life is because we have an army of men protecting those liberties which they think it’s their god given right.
They are way too comfortable and that should and probably will change. Indifferent men will create a weak society which will give way to radical changes.
[–]Sir_manalot24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Never understood the whole "God given right" thing.
The bible is filled with people who never had a single one of those "God given rights." Many of whom would deserve that power and liberty far more then most people who have it today.
The reality is that all of our freedoms and power is payed for with the blood of yesterday's betas whom selflessly fought for there loved ones to have a better life then they had. And now we spit on there graves and call them sexist pigs for wanting something in exchange.
[–]DangZagnut15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The reason the rights are "God Given" isn't explicitly religion, it's to communicate that these are natural rights, not government decided rights, not King's decided rights, it's "God's" decided rights. So they cannot be taken away. That was the political point being made, that these rights are not to be touched. Of course, the government got rid of all that and fucked with them anyway.
All because people won't string politicians up by the neck until dead.
So that's the point, it's not "President such-and-such granted a new right today". It's one that exists whether they want it or not.
[–]BobbingForBunions3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
As an anarchist (anarchia = no leaders), I've never voted. It's against my principles. And if someone wanted to execute all politicians ("two in the head, make sure they're dead"), I wouldn't intervene. In fact, if it were broadcast as a pay-per-view event, I'd pony up.
Voting is a terrific way to take a man's property without his consent. Women have been remarkably effective in wielding this power for their benefit (taxation, alimony, etc.) and getting men to do likewise.
[–]markus_brutus1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Despite the micro view of current events i like where society is going and I don’t think we could achieve that much by being anarchists.
Current democracies are run by people and that means it’s not perfect. Like with all systems, democratic systems need to be constantly re-evaluated, adjusted and kept in check. Even so i think it’s the best of the other options.
[–]StreetShame0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
username doesn't check out
[–]Chaos_6675 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know how back in the day we used to do stupid shit because we didnt know better? Like spreading radioactive makeup all over our faces, drinking mercury, drinking during pregnancy, dying of the plague, etc etc. This is no different. We still dont know how to organize ourselves effectively. Theres almost no awareness of the societal superstructure, and we believe in superstitious shit like a pay gap, and the election cycle.
Hopefully, like the problems before, these issues are solved in time.
[–]NathanHollister5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That's why you make your money on capital gains and not working.
[–]coagulated_cumquats0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can't do that in a country that taxes cap gains
[–]NathanHollister0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Come to America
[–]deathtocontrollers0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's because Chad and Tyrone have high standards when it comes to life so the thought of being a beta taxpayer for womyn is intolerable for them.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
exactly. men need protection we work out. women are physically weaker creatures and have always relied on their role as "mothers" to survive in this cruel world. having seen a few very close friends go through marriage and the wife finding ways to get them pregnant, i'd say women are very manipulative about how they use kids and pregnancy within a relationship. even in my blue pill days i knew the financial burden a child would be and always kept my load outside of my sexual partners. it amazes me how many men will willingly drop a load in some random thot because it "feels extra good to cum in a girl". fucking idiots.
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[–]Patricijaobjectdude137 points138 points139 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So...
Men: "I PAY YOU TO EXIST!!"
Woman: "Good boy."
Yeah, that'll show her. Nothing breaks a woman's spirit like letting her know we are aware that we are willingly putting up with enslaving ourselves for their amusement.
[–]waxrivers5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don't make it personal. Rephrase as "Men pay for women to exist". That way you are not directly accepting your position of being a gynocentric slave.
Also, you would say this to shut up a feminist cunt as well. "Men pay for your existence! All your arguments to me are irrelevant!" Almost all Feminist arguments revolve around "patriarchy" and "privilege". Reminding them of their insane gynocentric privilege dissolves most of their arguments.
[–]Patricijaobjectdude0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Arguing with a feminist is a waste of time tho. I can pretend to be a feminist by replying to your advice by pretending to be an idiot, like this;
That's not true.
It just isn't.
[–]waxrivers0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why you back your opinion by walking away. This *is* the way to argue with women. State your stance strongly and turn your back on her. It's the only way. When you engage a woman, she will win from simply nitpicking every little point to death. That is what female DNA is designed to do. A woman can sit there and moan and bitch and complain and make a career out of it. Those traits are pure poison to a man who must think clearly and perform. A woman's main plan is to nitpick a man to death until he simply agrees from exhaustion.
That is why you see these absolutely Cucked Husbands all the time, "My wife is always right! Ha ha ha". It means, "I'm too weak to stand up for what I believe in anymore. I'm a cuck and don't want to be alone."
[–]six-twosix1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah bro, at least I don't think so, an example would be if the majority of the population came to the conclusion that they pay the fucking useless ass government to do nothing and let said government know, that they know. This results in said government literally shitting it's pants. This is why governments generally keep their population retarded (i.e public schools).
In the same way, letting a woman know where she stands spooks the shit out of her. They generally do not want you to know where you stand and will try their best to keep you ignorant of that fact (i.e trying to convince you that they are the price, not you) It's one of the reasons why they treat alpha males different than betas, one knows his value, the other doesn't and is used.
However, given that her lifestyle is being funded by millions of beta cucks, one of them turning into an alpha and giving her the middle finger wont really do much to her conscience. Moreover, such an alpha would still be forced to pay taxes. Nonetheless, if the majority of males discover this truth... well, that might not happen in this life...
[–]OilHaulerND91 points92 points93 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Child support stolen is untaxable for the bitch.
Child support paid is not deductible for the man.
I call it fatherhood tax.
[–]LotBuilder9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s brutal.
[–]bsutansalt3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Child support should be taxed by the recipient. Absolutely no question about it, but it'll never happen because it would drop buys down into lower tax brackets and the income women receive from it wouldn't bump them up enough into higher tax brackets to make up the offset in lost taxes.
[–]OilHaulerND0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're right, it will never happen.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
the child support system is said to be "for the kids" but its clearly a system that support exploitation by women. and it is exploited over and over again, and yet you're called a women hater if you use the term "gold digger". gold digger isn't even an opinionated statement. its a fact. now that i'm older I can't tell you how many women have told me in their post CC years, "all i care about is that he's rich". they don't even care anything about what you are as a person. oh well.....when they ask me why i'm picky with women it ell them too...all I want is some tits. to each our own.
[–]OilHaulerND0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
"for the kids"
This is an emotional claim with no substance.
the term "gold digger"
Women who work the system to steal someone else's money deserve the term they earn, much like a man who swoons older women to steal their deceased husband's insurance money.
"all i care about is that he's rich"
AWALT. Women have always been like that. They just used to have self-control, respect and wisdom to keep their place in life instead of pretend they are something they're not... men.
all I want is some tits
I'm an ass man myself. Love a small and firm pair of buns, not far from, well, you get the idea.
Unfortunately for females, they are fighting the wrong war. Their rigged games today, including family court, make females an unsavory choice for relationships. And since I have no attraction to men (or even masculine women), I have no permanent use for females in my life, and choose rather to focus on helping myself before anyone else. Not that I don't help whom I want to help, or live in an Idaho cabin (unless I wanted to). I simply see no benefit, certainly no predictable improvement in my life, by trusting females for anything more than serving me in daily life, when another man is not available to do it better.
I have removed females from my equation of happiness in this life. And although the hunger pangs for pussy persist (I am still a man), the wisdom grown through my own pain and that of others leads me to live above any reliance upon females for anything I don't have to. Females have a place in my life as entertainment only, which is why I travel overseas twice a year and hence have zero sexual appetites for domestic, western, entitled whales.
these ideas simply could not exist even 10 years ago. the internet spreads ideas and ideas of logic and rationality stick. like us. there is a reason we grow. believe me, before I came here i THOUGHT i was red pilled. i was NOT. i just understood women's nature, i had no idea just how intense and brutal it can be (see Women teachers rape of underage kids as an example). i've learned so much from this sub with actual research papers, backed up stats, and news articles. the stuff that is opinion and not fact is still convincing and often rooted in intense life experience (see the Divorced men of this sub).
...Tinder is SO new. just wait for 20 years in the future. hopefully most men will realize to protect their sperm at all costs, always condom, snip yourself or cum outside her and NEVER EVER Trust anything about where you jizz, and that women have no long term benefit now and zero trust so pump and dump or monk mode is the only logical ways to be.
as i've said, until we bring back slut shaming, we'll get nowhere in fixing the gender dynamics of modern times. women should be ashamed to do the shit they do on IG or facebook but we actually encourage it because of modern day feminist movements. the backlash against 'slut shaming' was based in the idea of a woman finding SOME level of sexual independence. that she should not ONLY marry one man and be treated like his sexual property.
ok ladies...i get that. I also wouldn't want to fuck just one person and when i have sex I expect to get some pleasure out of it. ok ladies, i'll give that to you, but how did sexual independence begin to equal taking 300 dicks by the age of 40. that's just fucking disgusting. oh yeah, all women are whores. what did I expect.
[–]smilingupsided0wn-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How is child support stolen?
[–]OilHaulerND0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Taken from the paycheck/bank without approval; money is spent without accounting of how it was spent; no benefit for the expense.
I'd call that stolen.
[–]smilingupsided0wn-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is this assumption and generalisation not in the same vein of all women assuming all men are rapists and abusers? It’s poor to assume all women are bad mothers that simply spend the child support money on themselves, if a woman is working a job and has separated from the father, why shouldn’t the father pay the mother child support?
[–]OilHaulerND0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You proceed from a false assumption. There is neither assumption nor generalization in a court-ordered payroll deduction. It is dollars and cents, statistical, and utterly laughable that you would try silly social wording with millions of such cases. Any woman who takes what is not hers, unless by mutual agreement (not coercion), is a thief. Any woman who claims entitlement, without mutual benefit is a thief with government support. If wasteful recipients have no fear of the facts, why do they hide behind family court rules which deny proper accounting of funds?
[–]smilingupsided0wn0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is the mutual benefit not the child being provided for? Having come from a broken home and many of my friends and peers in my area having done the same, I can absolutely vouch for the fact that I would never have had some of the luxuries I was afforded if not for my father paying my mother child support. Should there be more accountability? Yes, inarguably so. Do all mothers “steal” the child support for themselves? Absolutely not.
[–]Bijan200090 points91 points92 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
And the thing is the 77 cent to a dollar wage gap doesn’t even exist, that considers both genders in its entirety
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[–]churchchannel8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Tbf it depends on the field/job. Women and men can be paid like 2% more than the other depending what field/job you're looking at.
[–]Oeste898 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Whenever a woman brings up the 77 cents/dollar statistic, it demonstrates that she doesn't understand supply and demand dynamics, and how those affect the price or labor. The easiest way to explain it to her is by bringing up that male porn stars make far less money than their female counterparts. She will instinctively reply that it's because men consume more porn and on average prefer female porn. Exactly, higher demand. There is higher demand and lower supply of STEM field qualified candidates than for lesbian dance theory graduates, hence higher salaries for STEM jobs.
[–]NathanHollister2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The easiest way is to ask if women can be paid less for the same job then why are any men employed.
[–]waxrivers1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It has always been a lie. It's sold as religion like "smart people researched this so you don't have to think about it.
They take all the labor and throw it in a basket and see that men have higher paying jobs with more risk, thus more reward. More men work on oil rigs; out in the sun; inside the ground; you name it.
Oh, and by the way way more men have workplace accidents where they die and become maimed but lets not stray off topic.
If you actually compared male teacher to female teacher (who doesn't take maternity leave) you would probably find the wages are very similar.
But then comes stuff like Maternity Leave where women want an entire year off for having a baby. They don't like to count this as "lost time", not does their tiny mind comprehend that men ultimately work "harder" to pay for their time off welfare.
As far a a Whamyn is concerned, during the time off for maternity leave, she is still "earning" and that money is rightfully hers.
But even past all that, any guy knows how very fucking little women do in a workplace with men. Take a room full of programmers. Women usually take roles like administrative contact or team leader....anything where they can use their female manipulation skills instead of doing actual work. It's extremely rare to see a woman stay up all night; with no thanks working on a code bug. That's something a Beta Male does for "the glory of mankind".
Now add in sick days; days off; emergency trips; 'I don't feel well' and so on. Women are a fucking plague on the productive workplace. Every one I've ever come across will take sick for the smallest of reasons and expect the show to go on without her no problem
[–]bfte232 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The wage gap myth is basically "give me your lunch money!!" in disguise.
[–]oirectine0017 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's more like "Daddy! He has more money than me! Do something!"
[–]You_reALittleBitch28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
This infographic needs to spread like a goddamn wildfire
[–]polywave18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It won't though.
The source cited is "judgybitch.com" and It will be the first thing pointed out by opposition.
[–]Gravyness7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The graph and data is certainly not from that source, I have seen it from a 40+ page document on economics.
[–]some1arguewithme8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The graph and data are from a new Zealand study.
[–]polywave6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do you have that source? Would come in very handy for men like us.
[–]Gravyness8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There you go, page 24 has the cumulative net fiscal impact per capita by gender.
Also, this source from 2016 has the very same text from the post, backed by what I think is the real source: this (direct download available)
[–]kidlit0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That should shut up the judgybitch hypothesis
[–]waxrivers1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is of course, making the mistake of thinking that that average Wahmyn could actually make logical sense of the information graphic at hand.
Most of what they say is simply "how they feel" and since they "feel strongly about it" it has to be true.
That is why you never argue with feminists. It's a fool's errand.
Women respond to only two things. Violence and being ignored.
In a civilized society, violence is off the table. As such, we go with option B. Ignore them. Starve them of resources. Stop White Knighting. Stop over-working for more taxes for more female welfare. Stop arguing with them. stop liking their photos on social media. Stop paying for e-thots. Cut them off.
Now as far as showing the graphic to other pink pill men who are ready to digest...sure, go right ahead.
[–]You_reALittleBitch0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course, but we have to get it out to the men who still haven't been abused enough to be able to understand and realize this
[–]GoHurtMyFeelings0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go ahead and spread it. You'll just be called an incel and that will be that.
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[–]CeleritySteam9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Trouble is if you don't fund abortion you pay a lot more for single mother spawn and not just in money.
[–]PMmepicsofyourtits4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How's about we stop funding Trainwreck women having children? Problem solved!
[–]bfrahm4203 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah good luck stopping dumbass human animals from fucking reproducing
[–]acmemetalworks1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But we could stop rewarding them for it.
[–]bfrahm4200 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wasn't even talking about women specifically when I said "dumbass human animals" I used that term because you literally cannot stop dumbass humans, male or female, from reproducing, because they are literally dumbass animals. So like, outlawing abortion is just kinda absurd. They'll just pay some guy they never met a few thousand and probably die. You may as well have those people get a technical degree and land a job, rather than survive off welfare, and you guessed it, produce another breed of dumbass animals who make mistakes and then realize that there is no resolution but to survive off government aid or resort to crime
[–]CeleritySteam0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That works but requires artificial wombs and men going Galt until the market corrects.
[–]safado9090 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a nice thought , but with perpetuation of the species hard wired into humans, it's really on men as much as women to be honest. I think if there were ways to eliminate the free ride for all free loaders, humanity would better served. Another note, if you're a legal American citizen, do not stop having children, Americans will soon be outpaced by illegal babies. Just remember to protect your assets thoroughly before getting into any relationship. You'll be glad you did.
[–]Digitaldreamer7[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
THIS.
Until forced sterilization or a US based reproduction policy like China had, I'd rather fund and promote abortion and birth control.
[–]Helikzhan1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They have this weird idea that you can't run on less favorable language. They could not be more wrong. Trump is the proof.
It also helps to ground those ideas in reality. "It might be radical but this is exactly why we need it" kinda thing.
[–]Burger_k1ng-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Imagine being a working class guy and not wanting to tax the extreme rich more. Fuck u guy thats just stupid. Just cuz stacey rejected u doesnt mean pieces of shit like jeff bezos shouldnt be forced to give away some of their unfathomable wealth to help the less fortunate
[–]DangZagnut2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
to help the less fortunate
Lazy and stupid.
I make less than you. So venmo me $100 and see what happens.
[–]Burger_k1ng-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I make 11.25 retard suck my dick i struggle to pay rent and car payments every month. U seriously think its ok that multibillionaires hoard all their wealth like that? That money could be used to benefit BILLIONS of people. Jeff bezos couldve stopped rhe amazon fires by himself wnd it wouldve put no dent in his fortune. These people have more money than they can possibly spend in thousands of lifetimes. Do u seriously think that the only reason ppl are poor is cuz theyre lazy and stupid? What the actual fuck is wrong with u u sound like u grew up privileged as fuck
[–]DangZagnut4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm going to assume you're pretty lazy and stupid just based on your inability to construct sentences, so communism is perfect for you. You're their target demographic.
I'm not more privileged than you, just more educated, and understand more about how money works, so I don't struggle to pay bills and rent.
If you're struggling to pay bills, you don't know how to handle money. Or balance lifestyle, income, and expenses. At all.
You think Bezos "hordes" money? Like in a big Scrooge McDuck vault filled with gold coins? Do you even know what makes him "worth" so much and why he could have zero dollars tomorrow?
When people say these billionaires are worth such and such, they're basing it on figures that are made up and change daily.
There's no big vault of money. There's not stacks of thousand dollar bills he uses to light cigars. That's not how net worth works.
And for all the greed to ascribe to him, you sure seem to be itching to get his money, so what does that make you? You're upset that he doesn't have to struggle to pay bills? Sounds like greed and jealousy.
So billions of people, say 1 billion, will get about $100 each, as that's his "net" worth. Of course to even do that he has to liquidate his shares in the company (which he can't just do on a whim which I'm sure you know), which would immediately plummet the company into a financial spiral, which will at best end up raising prices and firing employees, so that's a good idea. He'll also get sued into oblivion for doing so, and since he only has 16% of the shares, he'll lose any control he has over the company and the other investors will destroy him.
So let's look at Amazon fires. Why does he have to do shit about it? Why aren't any of the governments their giving a shit? Clearly they don't seem to care about their own countries burning down, but yes, it's some guy that runs an online mall that needs to handle it.
And how specifically?
He could rent some helicopters? Sure. Let's say 20. Now what.
Perhaps spend the next 50 years building a canal to get water to the fires? No that'll take awhile.
Perhaps those helicopters can pick up icebergs from the antarctic and fly them to the amazon. Nope, that'll cause climate change.
Rats. Maybe he can just rain a billion one dollar bills on the fires. That might help.
Or maybe everyone just calm down and let the fire burn itself out. Problem solved.
[–]HmoobMikah1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Damn you fucking destroyed him. I was just like /u/Burger_k1ng a few years ago. I didn't understand money and thought that the rich owed something to society. It wasn't until I got a bit older and started earning my own money that I realized how money really worked. Granted I'm only 25 years old and working at a retail job, but these rich, successful people gave me something to strive for, not envy.
There's a saying, "'If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative When Old, You Have No Brain."
When you're young, you think soceity owes you something, it won't be later that you realize, through all of your hard work, and savings that the world don't owe you shit. Something something bootstraps and welfare.
[–]DangZagnut1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the rich owed something to society.
Well that's what they're taught by their feminist, and therefore communist, teachers. Useful idiots.
They teach activism, socialism, authoritarianism, anti-skepticism, everything.
They want to make good little soldiers who will never succeed, purely to get more voters on their bullshit ideology.
They'll literally badmouth the entire worthy and openly praise authoritarian hate nations and systems where people die by the thousands, and go full intersectional politics, even in a fucking math class.
You know what I notice they don't teach? Opportunity and associated costs. Entrepreneurship. How to be successful. How to budget anything, how to determine gross revenue and a net profit. Multiple income streams.
Nope, they just want full communism and destroying small business. Cuz capitalism bad yo.
So basically non-socialism bad, pro-slavery good.
Hate the "rich" (while not defining what that means), you know those assholes who give people jobs. How dare they live.
[–]Yashugan0018 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Existence Gap or the Tax Gap should be an automatic reply to the so called Wage Gap.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
The top and bottom suck from the middle. How ironic its these two groups of people that create all these welfare laws that let a female get section 8, food stamps, medicaid, and basically be able to raise a kid never having to get a job. Single mother with 3 kids, tattoos, and alcoholic ex deserves a habitat for humanity house why? Why do we reward people for bad decision-making in life? Because they're good at making themselves out to be the victim, and never take responsibility for their role.
[–]waxrivers2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do we reward people for bad decision-making in life?
Most of the Cuck Epidemic comes from men being raised by Single Mother Cancer. Most men come out of the cloud of cuckoldry when learning MGTOW knowledge and come to realize that their mother maintained emotional warfare on the them as a boy.
My own mother was overly compassionate about people who really didn't deserve it. We were poor as hell and she was still sending money to Africa so she was thought highly of in Church.
Pretty much every female that my mother crossed "was a victim" and was "fighting a terrible man somehow". I look back now and realize how obvious it was. She never had good things to say about men unless they were cucked men and shoveling all their money and effort into women. She especially resented my Grandfather who was a bachelor type who simply dated women and lived in his RV. She was livid that he had no responsibility.
All my life, my mother made sure that I knew my soul purpose was "to get a woman and make her happy". That is why so many men are fucked up today. They think the validation of their existence is a woman. MGTOW teaches you to put that focus on your own life and not the woman.
[–]The_Invader_Kilz12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I'd prefer to see this graph with more data, references and less trash talk. I don't think it will win women over by claiming that we pay them to exist.
[–]StrongAffordance26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You’re not gonna win over women period so why not have some fun along the way
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This.
You may be able to talk to some 16-18 year old women about the graphic. All others will be indoctrinated soon after that age. Every day they age is another day the Femin Virus takes hold.
[–]L_Ollonais7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The strategy of trying to win women over is a poor one that has not borne fruit.
[–]BreathManuallyNow2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It needs to actually explain how women get more money from the government.
[–]findiz97-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You should look at the majority of CEOs in America (being men) who profit from business tax breaks too....
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/2018s-fortune-500-companies-have-just-24-female-ceos.html
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't agree with either.
this subreddit is like incel for grown men
Are you done crying?
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[–]The_Invader_Kilz0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Their place being equal to men?
[–]inushishi_no_kaze9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I estimated that if women had to pay for their stuff then every american men would have 5600$ more each year.
[–]Griever1149 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I really want to see all men to wake the fuck up and just not do shit for 1 single fucking day. One day, dont go to work and just stay home.
Remember that bullshit "woman's day"? Yeah, NOTHING changed.
Let's see how infrastructure holds out for ONE DAY if we say, "fuck this".
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[–]Griever1140 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, I welcome it.
[–]LotBuilder3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
85% of the health and beauty industry is rich chicks spending their mans money. Those $275 facial treatments wouldn’t exist If they were spending their own money.
Interior design = the same. They wouldn’t try to remodel every 8 years if they paid the bills.
85% of the health and beauty industry is rich chicks spending their mans money.
You don't say.
It's almost as if (((a group of people))) have a vested interest in perpetuating the gynocentric system where women spend men's money...
[–]asdjkljj6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, they do. Good morning. I know it's not a PC topic, but how come people don't know this?
As a class, only men pay taxes. It's no different in marriage. Women are valued for simply being women. Men are valued for what they can do for society, women, children.
If you take about the complete opposite of the bullshit feminist rhetoric, 90% of the time you are correct.
[–]bsutansalt4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Needs more sources. And if it came off less noxious it could be a real political talking point. Also needs to show men's lifetime tax contribution for a solid juxtaposition. Something like "Women are $150,000 net burden whereas men are _______ net contributor."
[–]JohnPettimore3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think this data is from the US. I’ve seen it elsewhere — think it’s from New Zealand or somewhere.
[–]wgretzskymscott4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women are just badly created NPCs
[–]waxrivers0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's true. Women were not a part of the original Matrix. See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/dguvxc/the_original_matrix_had_only_men_that_is_why_all/
[–]wgretzskymscott0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahah this is amazing. Can’t wait to read. I love how it’s only 2 days old.
[–]Stahlboden2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Add the money, the gifts, the paid services women get through orbiting, relationships, marriage and divorce to the pile.
[–]CeleritySteam1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sexbots and artificial wombs for the market correction when?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its so amusing. No matter how women reorganize society, the fact that men provide for women never changes. Sure, there are a few outliers who earn their own bread and, ironically, they also support women.
[–]Metalismyfriend1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The definitive reason why TAXATION IS THEFT. That's what goverment don't want men to understand. How the fuck do we came to Let them steal our money and waste it on lady whores? I do not know. Will we ever stop it?
[–]jistefa1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do I even begin to search for a source for my own country? I'd like to see how the numbers look in Argentina but I doubt there are databases differentiated by gender, at least available to the public.
[–]foalythecentaur1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anyone know how to get this data for the uk? I looked on google but can’t drill down deep enough to get at it.
[–]LiveTheTruth3211 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women would literally die if it weren't for men.
[–]meisannpc1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think that only net taxpayers should have the right to vote. I've thought this for a while. Still thought it after I originally found that study. Would certainly make things better around the country.
[–]CBDOnMyMind31 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Goddamn, this is a massive red pill. Thank you.
[–]12314124121 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Now do this analysis among racial lines. The results may shock you
[–]Blightsun[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
can you link me some studies/facts of the racial differences?
[–]fat_lesbians_lul0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
they sont even recover from student loans lmao
[–]OniiChanStopNotThere0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, they do.
[–]bobgray10 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Such injustice. Things like that make me furious. If can't even look at women anymore without getting all pissed off. Dammit!
[–]pee_tape_not_piss-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That's because you're fucking up your life hanging around and reading this hateful garbage.
[–]bobgray10 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My life is just fine, thank you. You're clearly a woman and I don't talk to women, so you can go find someone who does and talk to him about his life
[–]pee_tape_not_piss0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm definitely not a woman, and this cesspool is not doing you any good. Your life is not fine if looking at a woman makes you angry.
[–]bobgray10 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you're right... I apologize for calling you a woman
[–]TigPlaze0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She won't even understand.
[–]HNutz0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I could see it.
[–]liveyourbestlife830 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't be stupid enough to get married or get them pregnant. I've already done one. Not going to do two!
[–]UTDoneWithLife0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Source: judgybitch.com
I don't think I even need to open that to tell it's complete bullshit
[–]LilDickCasper0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn't this because women don't earn as much as men on average, and so pay less tax? Like a man earning 70k will pay more than a woman earning 30k? Is that not the reason for the gap?
It's because of several things. Yes men make more and pay more taxes. Women tend to use far more social services then men. And men retire later than women, but die far earlier, so never collect what they have paid in social security. Then the widow can go on to take survivor benefits, on top of her SSI for another 10-20 yrs.
[–]LilDickCasper-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But how does this effect the random woman across the street. If I was married and then died, yeah that woman would live off my retirement cash, but how does that relate to me 'paying women to live'. And btw don't mistake my questions for disagreement. I just dont know much about this and I wanna gain this knowledge thats all.
[–]Demonic_humor0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn yoshi had the system figured out for all these years, it's time to commit tax fraud.
[–]okashiikessen0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, it checks out:
Men make more money -> Men get taxed more
Women make less money -> Single mothers more common than single fathers -> Single mothers more likely to have to fall into safety nets -> Women on average pay less into tax buckets
And I fail to see how this should be anything to get caught up on because you're just confirming the equality that has been stated to exist - you're just not looking at the root causes.
[–]acmemetalworks1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Women choose to work at jobs they find more emotionally rewarding, but pay less.
Men choose to work jobs that are more financially rewarding, but are more dangerous, more physically exhausting, dirtier, more likely to be outside exposed to the heat, cold, rain or snow. Jobs further away from home, with longer and more erratic hours. As well as retire later, and die sooner.
Men pay more in and don't have the opportunity draw out as much as women do.
[–]okashiikessen-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow. Never start your response with a logical fallacy.
Men *also* choose to work at jobs which are emotionally rewarding. The emotions just might be different. My cousin is a welder, and he loves the shit out of it. He would fucking *die* in an office job - but, believe it or not, there are some people (men AND women) who enjoy office jobs!
Dale Earnhardt didn't get into racing because it was financially rewarding. He did it because he enjoyed working on cars, racing them, and to follow in his dad's footsteps.
Chuck Norris seems to have gotten into acting largely by accident. His passion was martial arts, which is why he got noticed by and became friends with Bruce Lee. Again, money had nothing to do with it.
In fact, pretty much any actor you look at - they might get into it with the *hope* of making good money someday, but they typically pursue acting because they enjoy it. Whether it's more dangerous or exhausting at that point is entirely up to them.
And then there's Zuckerberg. Yes, if Facebook took off, it was likely going to be very financially rewarding. But what if it had failed? He dropped out of Harvard, took a major risk financially - and that's as "dangerous" as it got. But there was no guarantee in financial success - it was just something he wanted to do, and he became emotionally invested in the idea enough that he didn't care so much if he failed.
And yeah, I suppose women who join the military or become mechanics *do* find it emotionally rewarding.
The point is that both men and women make decisions based on emotion (this is not to say that there are *no* differences). I mean, Trump's decisions certainly aren't based in any sort of logic - that's all ego and whim (which - hint-hint! - are emotionally-founded).
But the pay gap is real, and yes, it has a lot of downstream effects. And if you want to disprove it, then the best thing to do is to demand the same thing that your opponents are: pay transparency. You should be able to see what each of your coworkers make. The only party who benefits from keeping that data hidden is the employer. And the only way you'll get your 'I told you so' moment is if transparency is enacted and enforced, and then the data shows that the estimates were way off.
[–]HmoobMikah0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes the pay gap is real. Men choose jobs that are more dangerous and pays better than women who chooses cushy jobs. The original study lumped all jobs that men work with their salaries with all women jobs and their salaries and compared the two. If I were an employer I would hire all women if I can pay them less for the same work than men. But of course we don't see that because the so called 'wage gap' doesn't exist. If it did we would have employers everywhere hiring only women or mostly women because of the wage gap.
[–]okashiikessen0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I still don't believe that line explains everything.
Again, pay transparency is not a thing that exists right now. And I'm not saying that EVERY company does it, and definitely not that many companies do it consciously. But I've yet to see actual evidence that the pay gap doesn't exist.
Also, I know a few women who might knock your block off for saying women choose "cushy" jobs.
[–]Mick_Donalds0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I pay for you to exist.
[–]koriesuicide0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don’t have a weenor.
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[–]OrthodoxPolock1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How are we mental for pointing out the fact that on average women have a negative fiscal impact? Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't mean it's any less true.
[–]acmemetalworks0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They want to believe in make believe "pink tax" but real tax inequality makes their head hurt.
But dont you dare try mansplaining it to them.
[–]bongripper_4200 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
isthistruein sweden?
[–]roflcopt0rz_returns0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The sad thing is, women don't care. I mean they've been pushing the wage gap bullshit, PaTrIarChY bullshit, etc. since forever. Deep down they KNOW it's bullshit, but they don't care because they realize they can just shut you up by outvoting you and making you into their slaves and there's nothing you can do about it... peacefully.
Men have to wake up and realize that there is no time for debates anymore. MRAs have existed for decades and they've basically gotten jack shit done and it's not for lack of trying. The problem is that you cannot reform the corrupt system by following the current laws set by the corrupt system.
Society WILL eventually collapse. Women's demands are infinite and thus their cries will only grow, while more men go MGTOW. HOW society will collapse, I'm not sure, because there are several ways which will trigger said collapse. Because the only way to actually fix the problem is to take women's rights away and MGTOWs are literally the only people who know that.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
[–]Dorinus20 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just gog s lot of respect for tax evaders
[–]hollydoll270 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know about women being the main recipients of government benefits (many single mothers) paid for by taxes, but I didn't quite understand the picture above. Could anyone clear this up for me on how women pay a negative amount in taxes by the end of their life? Is it non working women or them just having a lower amount taken out of their paychecks? I know I'm a woman, but I would like to have a firm grasp on this knowledge...
[–]b_a_heel0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be fair if all the ethots paid their taxes...
[–]CerebralAbrasion0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We all have to pay the gina, but at least we have it better than a married guy. In addition to the gina tax Cupcake siphons his after tax earnings, and prepares "honey do" lists while he's on his way home from pulling her weight in addition to his.
[–]DJBuzzyBuzz0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Does anyone have a link to similar ‘tax gap’ data for Australia?
[–]KemoM1nd-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
okay but don’t men pay more taxes because they earn more? i’m a man btw but i feel like there is more to this story then shown
[–]lestratege6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
okay but don’t men pay more taxes because they earn more?
In part yes. This whole gender gap pay and gender tax gap are both the same thing, and they both relate to an unchanging biological fact: women bear children. So in average they will divert more of their time and energy to that, and so have less earnings through their lives, and because children are what society needs to reproduce, they will also be recipient of tax transfers.
This whole thing is retarded. It's like bitching about or being proud that men have a longer penis than women. Well duh...
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[–]lurker2012to20187 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But its obviously not right for women to earn less even if they're taxed less right?
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[–]L_Ollonais1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which group is actively and successfully working with lawyers, judges and legislators to fight shared parenting and family court reform? The hyperbole you present may not be happening but you are a damned fool or sympathizer if you think that organized groups are NOT actively and successfuly working against men.
You have to see this within the scope of the "expectations" of men in society. Like who is expected to buy that wedding ring? The Man. Who is expected to buy that drink for a gal at the bar? The Man. Who is expected to give to charity more often? Men. Who is expected to move some vapid cunt's couch on Saturday? Her Beta Man Friend. Those are all forms of unspoken welfare that men are saddled to pay.
So you have women not only working less and paying less taxes but also benefiting greatly from female welfare along with "chivalry guilt tax" which is all the things I listed above and more.
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[+]KemoM1nd-7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
it’s not because “men work harder then women” that’s a delusional idea my guy, men just tend to have better qualifications and chose higher paying jobs.
[–]L_Ollonais5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Wrong. In the nursing field, for example, men take overtime at a much higher rate. On top of that, a study showed that men publish more works in nursing journals at women. When you look at the number of men in nursing versus the number of women, this is incredibly significant. Nursing isn't the only field where such disparities occur.
[–]KemoM1nd-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
i find it so funny how this sub has soooo many incels, really are just a bunch of butthurt guys
[–]jiayua1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I find it so funny how by trying to use the word "incel" as if it's some sort of insult, all you've done is reduce women to sexual objects whose only contribution in life is for men to ejaculate into.
[–]L_Ollonais0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Plus, calling a person with kids 'involuntary celibate ' indicates that this person isn't very bright. Their elevator doesn't go all the way to the top of the building.
Can you empirically disprove the facts I listed? Both came from peer-reviewed studies and are available using your search engine of choice. Name-calling indicates that you probably cannot and that your intellect has once again failed you.
Not because men work harder??
Never seen a woman digging a ditch or humping shingles up a ladder.
Guess what? When you do harder work you can expect more pay.
Men earn more because men deserve more.
[–]studyinformore-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Heres the problem with the graphs used.
One is from the usa, the other is new Zealand.
You cant pick and choose your information and claim they're comparable when they're two completely different nations.
[–]JoShuriken-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have never seen such bullshit before.
[–]Schaafwond-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Source: a blog named 'judgy bitch'.
This coming from the same group of brain surgeons who say women lack critical thinking skills...
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
And this is why alimony / spousal support is a great thing, and you should all be for it.
'Voluntary charity' > 'involuntary taxation'
(I have a thread about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/df52li/mgtow_vs_mra_and_my_personal_take_on_the/ )
Encouraging other men not to get married is like giving away inside information on the stock market for free. Always encourage other men to marry (unless they are close friends you care about), because it will relieve some of the tax burden on those of us who decide not to.
[–]ceophilly-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LMAO this subreddit is the funniest shit ive ever read in my life
browsing these comments is like reading the minds of the weirdest most annoying people on earth
all joining together like a justice league of weirdo losers lol
every guy understands women can be annoying...hell...men can be annoying, the annoyances come from dealing with someone who has different motivations than you and not being able to fully understand it.
but you dont rise to the level of hating someone for being different....unless you post here i guess lol
[–]escape777-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Oh please, atleast now they pay some taxes. Before, they were completely dependent on men and still strode around with heads held high. Diamond rings and houses and money to shop. C'mon if u show this, it's just pride for them that they pay anything.
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Ahem...
[–]escape777-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Umm didn't notice the downvotes was just being sarcastic. I already downloaded the charts to my phone
/s, my boy.
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