It's pretty clear that most men struggle in online dating. A good 80% of men are getting next to nothing out of the whole process. And honestly, it's probably more than 80% these days (women swipe right on just 4.5% of men on Tinder: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104). I myself fall into this majority category. Let me tell you, it's tough to get single digit match figures on Tinder for an entire year, or to message the worst looking women in your area on Plenty of Fish and they either ignore you, stop talking mid conversation or create constant obstacles in the way of meeting in real life.
Anyway, enough of the self pity. I did do an experiment a couple of months ago with a good looking male, and this is what you have to look like to get a reasonable amount of female attention from average and below average looking women:
https://i.imgur.com/iuCRN2X.jpg
A man who looks like this can get women messaging him and giving him the time of day. Which is either depressing or intriguing, depending on how you look at it.
What do you think? Would you consider a man like this to be good looking? Women, are you guilty of only giving men who look as good as this the time of day on a dating site? I'd love to hear your opinions.
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[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH[S] 9 points10 points11 points (9 children) | Copy Link
NGL, I wouldn't have replied to him either :/
Moids think being handsome is enough. No. If he has no bio or his bio's lackluster.... UNMATCH, BLOCK, DELETE, IGNORE, NEXT!
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[–]sadchild5FDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
it’s not our fault that men are so desperate they swipe right on 99% of people. yet that means we’re just drowning in quality options!
[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
their bs excuse is always 'women have more options to physically improve themselves'
yeah SO. An average guy with a funny bio will still pull matches, or one who's standing on top of a mountain etc, some women will be interested in him cos of travel etc...
if ur not v attractive, u make up for it in humour/intellect/manners etc- OH but this requires effort instead of entitled whining....
i'm a 4/10 incel....why can't I pull these attractive women
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[–]abicus4343FDS STRATEGY COACH6 points7 points8 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit. That was the whiniest, longest, most delusional cope rant I have ever read. Talk about confirmation bias. My god, they really believe this shit! They will do 'study' after ridiculous 'study' to try to prove to themselves that none of this is their fault. Lol
HEY BOYS! GET THE FUCK OFF TINDER, STOP WACKING YOUR LIMP NOODLES TO PORN AND GO OUT AND LEARN TO TALK TO WOMEN IRL AGAIN! Jesus.
Clearly, if something isnt working for you over and over and over again....try something DIFFERENT!
This is like women on snap chat bitching that they only meet fuckbois, ya, no shit, get off snapchat. 🙄
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[–]abicus4343FDS STRATEGY COACH4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, Pua's DO NOT learn how to talk to women correctly. They learn how to treat women like objects to manipulate, gas light and pressure into sex using narrccisstic psychological tactics. Anyone that thinks "negging" is a correct way to talk to a woman is a delusional asshole. THATS why women hate them.
But ya, just the usual whiney defeatist bullshit I'd expect from a man. Stay celibate. I don't care.
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So stay incel. Live your life by internet incel "studies" for all i care, lol!
I wonder how men for millions upon millions of years understood how to naturally and attractively communicate with women....hmm, nah, must be impossible. 🙄
Anyway, your bullshit isnt welcome here. Fuck right off back to redpill where you belong.
[–]throwawayy92838383Ruthless Strategist1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s sooo fucking annoying. Attractive people get more attention. Who woulda thought?
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Wait only 62% of women receive super likes? Is that true?
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That's what their study says
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The study is so long but I found the stat. It was based on the profiles (I think some they made up?) that they recorded results for for a limited time.
I don’t think that 38% of women on tinder have never received a superlike.
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Since when did r/dating become so incel like?? Scary...
[–]throwawayy92838383Ruthless Strategist10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Anywhere there are male commenters there are incles. You can’t post on r/dating, r/bumble, etc. as a woman without getting a handful of bitter little weasels bitching at you.
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" this is due to a feedback loop: ‘men are driven to be less selective in the hope of attaining a match, whilst women are increasingly driven to be more selective, safe in the knowledge that any profiles they like will probably result in a match’. "
Their source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104
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[–]abicus4343FDS STRATEGY COACH7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ya, no it doesn't. Lol. Stay hot and this can go on indefinitely. "The wall" is another male cope. An attractive older woman gets endless attention, moreso then younger women sometimes depending on the situation. Believe me, I know. I get more attention now then I did when I was younger.
The wall is about letting yourself go, not about ageing. Stay fit, take care of your skin, eat healthy, dont smoke, drink or do drugs and make your own money, you're golden. An attractive older woman is still attractive, just in a different way. Dont believe me? Find me ANY man that would turn down one of these women if she even glanced his way....
https://m.imdb.com/list/ls055688704/
Stop buying into the incel male cope of "the wall" bullshit. It's an incel revenge fantasy, nothing more. Dont let yourself go ladies and the world of men is yours.
[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH[S] 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Men hit the wall too. Check out r/Men_of_the_wall
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[–]abicus4343FDS STRATEGY COACH4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth.
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[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH[S] 1 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
If you lurk on the dating and relationship subreddits, you'll learn quickly that a lot of men aren't even getting matches to begin with. How are you going to sleep around when nobody's matching, nobody's responding?
Not many men are getting laid outside of relationships. It's a recurring theme. Even the handsome ones struggle with low response and match rates.
How do you start a relationship when nobody's matching or responding again?
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[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH[S] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
The women of this subreddit are being taught and advised to ignore, block, delete, and remove these non-committal men out of their lives. Giving these men time and affection is a waste. Women have multiple offers for relationships when they play their cards right.
If we do things right. The sleeping around type of man is eliminated in the swiping stage. Or he's identified and removed in the text stage. By the time a phone call occurs, he's been vetted thoroughly and by the time a face to face meeting happens, extreme vetting has taken place.
We straight up tell women never to waste their time and only focus on relationship and marriage focused men. These are the ones that want relationships
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[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH[S] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Fake love is worse than no love and we tell women to nope these guys. What you're describing is the male experience. It's very easy for women to find male companionship, while it takes months and sometimes years for men to get any girl to message back......