Let's say you need glasses. You had to rely on society's advancements to deal with your blindness. Or let's look at your clothes. In a cold place, you could be freezing to death if it wasn't for the clothes you're blessed with. Beyond that, there's computers and all the access to information that we have at the tip of our fingers that wouldn't have been possible without society. Without any of these things, would it really be possible to become a MGTOW? I'm also blessed to have these things, despite all the other BS that society brings with it. Should I just take and take and then profit off the backs of others while going hermit for the rest of my life? That's what I've been thinking about lately.

As social creatures, wouldn't we need some level of consistent human contact and experience as we reach the ages of 50+? Because values can change, and if your values change to having a sense of community and support, it may be harder if your siblings and parents are all gone, and you have maybe three close friends at most, all of who are busy with their own families.

I just can't see MGTOW being a fullfilling life at the ages of 50-60+, but I also agree that marriage is not the best choice. At the same time, being in a LTR on both the guy's end and woman's end if they have close families can create a pressure for marriage. Maybe you don't want to, but if it's your LTR's unconditionally loving family over you, you most likely know what she'll choose if she values community and typical traditional family values.

Additionally, even if you are introverted and are able to be alone for long periods outside of hang-outs with close friends, if your parents and siblings die, aren't you mostly fucked in terms of your safety and security and social needs? You can meet them on your own, but let's not act like getting a dog, going to a club, and saying affirmations to a mirror will magically solve the need completely. I'm not saying an LTR is perfect, but let's not deny the value it bring in the long-term sense, despite the BS it brings with it. I feel like it will hinder self-actualization in the Maslow's Hierarchy sense because of the unmet need. Thoughts?