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Unplugged 6 days ago - excited and sad - TRP is blowing my mind

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Title Unplugged 6 days ago - excited and sad - TRP is blowing my mind
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Date November 3, 2013 6:24 PM UTC
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[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I got so excited about TRP I forgot the sad part. Its just sad to see that this is all true. Its sad to see the commercials, radio songs and so forth and hear all the subliminal messaging, the programming about how women should see themselves and how men should see women and how men should see themselves. Its no wonder men are so feminized today.

Its sad to see how many of these ideals in our society are harming both men and women, and its clear why our family unit is so broken in this country.

Its sad to see so many men suffer simply as a result of so many wrong views. I mean its one thing to treat women with EQUAL RESPECT as men. But to treat women like men leads nowhere good because women aren't men. You wouldnt treat a cat like a dog, and you wouldnt treat a child like a teenager. In the same way, women are biologically and chemically different than men. At any rate treating women like men led me into the friendzone over and over.

Its interesting to see that the alpha mentality has been largely preserved in ghetto culture in america. I know thats a strange thing to say, and Im glossing over the massive misogyny found in rap music and so forth. However, their approach towards women is always red pill alpha as fuck. Most of the real men in this country are therefore sadly the most oppressed because they are largely black and hispanic. Many of the real men are in lock up doing hard labor for the government. Many of the real red pills are caught up in a socio-economic crisis heavily racially charged situation. Maybe Im wrong, but thats one thing I saw this week. But this too is sad.

I see now that all my male friends are beta, even the ones that have alpha traits have a lot to learn. Thats sad to see.

Its sad to know that my new way of approaching women will change my relationships with the people I know now, and I will most certainly lose a few friends. However it will also be interesting to see how many friend zones I can get out of since women do not base attraction on past action, TRP might be the solution that every man dreams of. Although who knows, maybe being out of the friend zone is a pipe dream. Once they see me with other girls though, that might change fast.

[–]Nitzi10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP might be the solution that every man dreams of.

TRP hates white knights, but for betas that are willing to learn, the RP is the knight in shining armor.

[–]xaxr2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You should try giving your friends the pill. It really works!

[–]DaedalusFinch6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." - Morpheus, The Matrix

Be careful is all I'm saying here, some are not ready and some may never be.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah Im already thinking of how to approach this. One or two friends I might be able to outright mention it if I do so in a casual way, making it seem like its just some weird thing I found with some useful info on it, without divulging the extent of my transformation as it were.

Others I might just write the website on a piece of paper and anonymously put it in their shit, like their coat, and deny all knowledge of it later if challenged about it.

Oh yes and I will never, ever, ever speak of or even mention the name "red pill" within earshot of anyone. None of the terminology here will ever leave my mouth in public. Im the same with with PUA. Fight club rules all the way.

[–]redbluepilling0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After tossing around a few ideas here and there, I just recently introduced a friend via The Black Phillip Show. I left all terminology and reddit out. It's the ideas that matter.

[–]trembley30001 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Only disagree with you on one point. Treating women like women leads to the the friendzone.

You mention not sucking up to women or following traditional chivalry values. Those are both good things, but when you stop doing those you're treating a girl like a man, not the other way around.

Also, chivalry can be a good thing, but it has to be given to the right time and on you're terms, but of course you mention this yourself. Well done

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess I mean Ive been treating everyone the same. I talk to both sexes the same. I approached them in the same way. It was all wrong. I was treating women like I do my guy friends, and then wondering why I couldnt sleep with them and why they didnt find me desirable. Gee, I wonder. lol.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I'm gonna keep it real: You got cheated on 3 straight times and still hung on? I've seen niggas kill for less.

On the other hand it's good to have you. Just be warned: Nothing will ever be the same. Your friends won't understand you. Popular Movies and TV shows and music will bother you. Women will want to have sex with you vigorously. It's a rough life my dude.

[–]Spiritualpha8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

"Your friends won't understand you"... Sad but true.

[–]INomYou2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

LPT: work in yourself first before you evangelize. You need to internalize and lead by example for a while to gain credibility.

**Also if you share TRP with select buddies, be prepared - their SOs will likely try to drive you out because they see you as a threat to the power structure of their relationship. Especially if your friend starts crushing shit tests and taking time away from worshipping her pedestal to improve himself - at the gym, with guy friends etc Happening to me right now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, Im talking here and just sharing what Ive learned and how its changing my perceptions, but it will take time. I wont be telling anyone of TRP anytime soon. Ill just wait and watch the changing dynamics and see what happens. When the time is right it should be apparent if a friend is ready. I can also probe by casually bringing up TRP related topics without ever mentioning it just to see what they say and how they feel, and how they react if I tell them why their beta opinion is wrong (without ever even saying beta of course).

[–]Spiritualpha0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Preach.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What do you guys mean ?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Well whats going to happen is that as I exhibit Alpha traits my more beta friends will be obviously relegated as socially secondary. Although my general attitude is to build up those around me and to show them the way, as well as to wing for them and help them get laid, thats probably not whats going to happen in all cases.

Some of my guy friends will probably think "Its about time he grew a pair and started fucking these girls" and others are going to think that Ive become a womanizer or a douchbag. The betas will label me as now being one of those jerks, and wont want to be around me anymore. So ill lose friends, but ill gain respect of other Alphas and a new social circle will inevitably develop.

Some of my girl friends will think "Hes changed, I like this new guy" and others will think "This new guy is a jerk". Im sure I will fuck more than one of my friends. Furthermore some girls I deny will come to dislike me because I wont be fucking them but will be fucking other girls.

More than one person is probably going to think "I thought he was gay" But that's of no concern one way or another and wont affect my relationships, but it will be interesting to hear that because I know its coming since my sexuality has often been called into question (its no wonder).

Furthermore I wont be able to be nice to betas anymore. Ill have to blow them out of sets and shit if they start to cause trouble. I cant be as accommodating. I dont have to be cruel but I will have to be more aggressive overall. My days as the universally known as a nice guy is over, and thats the crux right there. This is war, this is a hunt, this is my fucking life and Im going to take anything and everything I can from it.

Edit: This is not to mention that inevitably my beta friends will be watching me fuck the women they want. They will think that I "took" the girl from them even though the reality is that she was never going to fuck them from the beginning, and they had no chance. It has nothing to do with me due to the amoral nature of the process. But if they cant man up, theres no reason I have to man down just to appease them. Ill get them laid if I can though.

[–]gg_s4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Taking TRP is an excellent prompt to turn off the fucking television.

Television is a shortcut to achieving worldly experiences, social immersion, romance, and intellectual fitness, all from the comfort of your sofa. It's all reward and none of the work. Television is diet coke for the mind.

Pick up a book. Watch documentaries. Listen to instrumentals. Make your brain work for entertainment.

TRP is about working out: exercising your manhood and masculinity. This should coincide with exercising your body and exercising your mind as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Im seeing it already, but Ill find my RP brothers out there in the fold. Ill try to bring as many of my friends into the fold as I can if I think they are ready.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the thing, you can't bring it to them, they have to come to you.

When they see your success and confidence and way with women they'll start asking questions.

Build the field and they will come.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not with the same girl, I mean three girlfriends in a row cheated on me.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

i know

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh, yeah its frustrating for sure. Its made me a bit cynical towards women since Ive never cheated on a girl and I hope I never do.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

like patrice said, cheating is different for men.

for us it's just sex; we're either not getting enough or just want something different.

but we still care about the women we're with, if we didn't we would just dump them. so we sneak around and do all this clandestine shit to protect their feelings from getting hurt

[–]porkytheporkdog1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Happened to me too. Third time was what got me to TRP and then I realized their cheating on me was on me.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm commenting on the negative blue pill aspects here to help any blue pill lurkers/newbies who are reading this and trying to make sense out of a story that they self-identify with.

Its amazing what TRP has done for me in a week alone. Literally my reality has been shattered, Im unplugged, awake, and I can see the code. It happened over night, and its kind of freaky.

Haha sounds corny as hell. Welcome into the fold.

TV, music, movies, and all social interactions suddenly appear different. Strangely clear, but way different.

Yeah. I used to love big bang theory, I still do. Except I don't see how they all put Penny on a fucking pedestal as a "normal thing" anymore, in fact it kind of makes me cringe, and want to cringe hard. That show is so blue pill it's insane. Even her ex boyfriend Zach who had the height/looks/physique was framed by the show as some gormless idiot with no iota of intelligence whatsoever. Bernadette is an shrilly little bitch who has howards balls in her purse, and the show openly laments a double standard in their marriage between what she's allowed to do and what he is, basically she does what she wants but she keeps him on a short leash. She even says in one episode "you're lucky to even have me!" I don't wanna go on about this show too much, especially if you haven't seen it because you won't get the references, needless to say it's a strong example of bluepill/beta behaviour.

You can see it less pronounced in other shows, like in the simpsons bart and homer are fucking retards, lisa, madge and even fucking maggie are smart (maggie gets an episode where shes a child genius). In Fraser, the two brothers are hopelessly beta, one is a beta with no idea, the other is a total fag (not gay, just an extremely effeminate heterosexual.) Be careful for alphas in disguise as betas though (quite rare), like Gus from Breaking Bad who runs pollos hermanos but secretly works for the Mexican cartel. He acted really beta and clean cut but he was a dark triad red pill motherfucker with a beta glazing.

I was betaized early on.

Pussy ass father or a blue pill single mother? Rhetorical question, either one can be the answer.

My whole life is a tribute to white knighthood. Ive openly espoused chivalry as the way men should approach women.

The definition of blue pill, acting like you know your shit but you actually don't. If anyone challenged you on that stance you'd dig your heels in out of delusive pride, but really you know and anyone who's having success knows that what you were saying is pure bullshit.

I've openly agreed with every feminist ideal and never even questioned it (probably because doing so is immediate grounds for a total freak out on the part of all feminist women, men are not allowed to have or voice any dissenting opinion about feminism or else they will be labeled as misogynists).

There's opposing it and getting swarmed by the "anti-misogyny" crew, there's keeping your mouth shut and avoiding interactions about "differences between men and women" with the obvious women who seem like they have a screw loose, that's most of them, and then there's actually joining the wenches in their tirade of bullshit and holding up a tiny little white flag over your crotch. You were in deep my friend.

From the very first girl I was with I was a beta bitch. I asked permission for everything. I asked permission to kiss her. Its no wonder she said no!

Yeah not exactly confident or sexy to be asking to kiss someone. "Take the initiative" is paramount here. Demonstrate your value by being bold. If she's not interested, move on. Gauge a girls interest via her body language. If a random girls eyeballing you a lot, she wants the D.

My first girlfriend (the one I asked to kiss) cheated on me (big wonder).

LOL. She was using you.

My second girlfriend cheated on me as well (I did everything for her, was always compliant, clingy, spent all my time with her, had no other hobbies, insecure, and so forth). My third girlfriend cheated on me too (same reasons as above, less clingy, less insecure, but still really beta and pathetic). In fact by the time I got to my third girlfriend in my mid 20's. Need I even mention what happened with my fourth girlfriend?

Girl 2, 3 and 4 used you to validate their egos and pay for shit, probably cheated on you, once they used you up they prepared a next guy to be with before leaving you and then jumped to the next dick (referred to as branch swinging) funny how I know this without knowing anything about who any of you are. The chances it happened like this are so high we may as well hedge bets.

I expected women to cheat on me and had even rationalized that it was OK because most people are weak and unable to resist sexual temptation.

Well humans are not monogamous creatures unless the mate they are with is extremely high value, and even then a man has many many temptations if he's high enough value to keep a high value chick because all the other chicks want his dick too.

Aside from this, I had only been with three other women. One epic beta failure of a one night stand, one fairly awesome one night stand, and a short three day fling with a chick.

That's pretty fucking amazing for a beta assuming you're under 25. If you're older than that then it speaks for itself, girls have been using you your entire life which is what pushed you to seek out something like TRP.

Basically my only success has been with women outright looking for a beta-provider type.

Confirms what I said about women using you for emotional validation/money.

All other women shoot me down. Of course fat women seem to like me (in fact they seem to prey on poor betas) but I dont personally find large women attractive.

It's a matter of SMV, they think you're in their league/attainable.

My attitude towards women have been completely wrong. Ive been conditioned to feel guilty for wanting casual sex with women. Ive been conditioned to treat women like men. Ive been conditioned to always put all their needs and wants first to such an extent that I rationalized not getting involved with a great deal of women because I "didnt want to hurt them" as though anyone can enter into having relationships without it getting messy from time to time. Ive been conditioned to not go for what I want with them, the idea that basically just touching, kissing, and fucking a girl because I want to made me feel like I was a creep, bordering on raping a girl (which I would never do).

Yeah feminism does that if you ingest it fully. It frames you as the evil/needy/weak entity that needs to fit a bunch of requirements and quotas in order to be validated. The thing is, it's all bullshit. Women need men more than vice versa psychologically speaking, men just need to fuck - that's the reality, feminism tries to inflate the price of sex by denying the psychological element under the guise of equality, but end of the day despite their machiavellianism and ability to move on easily women need a relationship/male attention to feel like their existence is validated.

In short, my whole life Ive been a beta, betaized early on, I was conditioned to be basically everything a woman finds unattractive in a man.

Good thing you came to the realisation you weren't having success so you could start making changes in your life.

And one thing from the post change:

The best part is I feel light hearted. I haven't fucked any new women yet, but this has been a great week. These results are great for someone like myself who has had zero success. I've been rejected a few times, just girls with no interest in me, and it didn't phase me. Its strange to suddenly and abruptly understand women, understand why they are saying what they are saying, and why they are dong what they are doing. I feel like Mel Gibon in "What Women Want". I cant turn it off.

Get rejected a lot. It's good stuff. It's medicine. It may taste like shit to begin with but it helps you. Once a woman has no power in her choice to reject you, an incredible amount of anxiety suddenly becomes absent from your interactions with women, the worst she can do is reject you and you don't even give a fuck about that now. Self-development is about more than notches, number closing, k-closing, successful flirting with co-workers or whatever, it's about being a more confident, fulfilled and more mentally stable person and that of course inevitably manifests by leading to the former. There's no rush at all, just be moving upwards.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Another random thought: TRP is the natural result of betaizing the male population. As massive numbers of males find themselves sexually unfulfilled they naturally seek answers. The motivation to do this is strong because it has its roots in biology and the drive to reproduce. Its our DNA's prerogative to solve this problem.

Like war, when an oppressed group is in a situation of fight or flight, it can produce massive innovation and growth in the area of technology. On some level TRP is the nuclear technology of PUA/Seduction. I am reminded of this style of fighting:

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silat)

It was developed as a result of the pressures of an attacking enemy front. They developed one of the most effective and deadly fighting styles in the world that kill an enemy in usually a few moments, a handful of moves. Brutal moves. Broken bones, broken necks, smashed organs, all intended to immediately disable and kill your enemy.

The holy trinity is PUA/TRP/NLP. In other words, inner game (TRP) outer game (PUA) and seduction techniques (NLP, the power of suggestion, knowledge of the human mind). Thats just my opinion though.

If I had to say so I'd say that PUA/TRP/NLP form the theory aspect of seduction, whereas the dark triad traits of egocentrism, manipulation and doing what you want without regard for others feelings form the practice. These three would match up to the study of seduction as NLP/Manipulation (the practice of controlling the feelings and thoughts of others in order to get what you want), TRP/psychopathy (the internalization of thinking you are the shit and most important being in the universe) and PUA/egocentrism (the external expression of thinking you are the shit and center of the universe).

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a pretty well written post I concur.

When you say this:

Another random thought: TRP is the natural result of betaizing the male population. As massive numbers of males find themselves sexually unfulfilled they naturally seek answers. The motivation to do this is strong because it has its roots in biology and the drive to reproduce. Its our DNA's prerogative to solve this problem.

All I can remember is this really hot blondes mouth I was in the other night and the fucking rabid sheer ego and lust which went into making that happen. Yes, you're right. It's the DNA tryna bust out (quite literally) Haha!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hah! You're spot on with everything you say. One interesting thing with the girls Ive dated though is I tend to leave them before they leave me, but by then the relationship is already in the toilet anyways and their leaving me would happen eventually anyways. Its usually my ability to foresee this fate that causes me to just break it off sooner. My last GF earlier this year dumped me though, and that set me over the edge in terms of figuring out what the hell is wrong with me.

To answer some questions of yours, Im 30, and it was a bitch ass father. Although he showed me the value of hard work and supported both me and my mother, he didnt really teach me masculinity. My mother also crippled me by doing tons of shit for me, like my homework, because "I didnt want to". So on the one hand I had no role model, on the other I was coddled. Then I bought into everything I saw on media and TV about white knights, and that was the end.

[–]redbluepilling2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They made you break up with them to remove guilt/blame from themselves. You look like the asshole & it gives them free reign within their social circle to have the next guy without being seen as slutty in the least.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats probably true. Every one became a shrew type, constantly whining and complaining about everything and getting on my case about whatever life choices I was making at the time.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I see it in porn now too. Alpha men fucking the women that the beta men want to be fucking. The slow transition to cuckolding of various kinds becoming normalized in porn. I imagine the legion of horny beta men jacking off to porn constantly because they never get laid (like myself) and it all makes sense. No wonder porn is such a huge industry. Its one giant release valve for the pent up sexual tension and aggression of what... 80% of the undersexed male population? Wow... Another eye opener.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What are your new beliefs now, except these which I deducted form the txt.?

  • Women want me to go for what I want.

  • I am proud man and I don't apologize for my sexual advances.

  • Women are here for my amusement.

  • I treat women as my prey, I enjoy a good hunt, and so do they.

Also - good on ya lad!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The amusement part is part of my frame, I see women as humans with real feelings that I can easily hurt if I just go willy nilly treating them like sex objects. In order to maintain a laconic and amused frame I now just see it as a big game in line with hunting or even skirmishes/battles with women.

I really believe in "Leave them better than you found them" though. Completely. I categorically deny that women lack intelligence, as most of my women friends can hold better conversations than most men I know. Of course Im not fucking any of them either :/

I basically believe that being beta doesnt work, and being Alpha does. Im seeing the results of this every time I leave my house. Even just maintaining this frame without trying to speak to women going about my daily business I get more IOI's from random girls than before.

But I really want to be as "purple pill" as I can. Red pill to attract, blue pill to attach, the combination to maintain a relationship without falling into either extreme. Thats my goal and ideal at least.

[–]gg_s6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Use red pill to attract and attach.

Red and blue pill strategies employ common tactics for different reasons. For example: complements. Complementing a woman to reward and instill positive behavior is red pill. Complementing a woman as a means to receive favorable reciprocation is blue pill.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I suppose I agree with this.

[–]redbluepilling2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But I really want to be as "purple pill" as I can. Red pill to attract, blue pill to attach, the combination to maintain a relationship without falling into either extreme. Thats my goal and ideal at least.

Since you're new into understanding TRP, this purple pill thing is a faulty concept, there's some confusion. TRP is simply understanding how things work, how you act is up to you. If you have a relationship and purposely keep supplicating for her affection, and recognize that this is why it's falling apart, that's red pill. If you're a bit unavailable, attractive to many women and sleep around on your partner, and realize this behaviour is why she is still attracted to you, that's red pill. If you run a 60/40 relationship, pass shit tests like a champ, and understand how you maintain this long lasting relationship that results...that's red pill.

With the new understanding, you can still operate on your own moral code--although, do challenge it. (For example, my ideas on LTRs and marriage have certainly changed, albeit slowly, over these past few months)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good way of putting it and good to know!

[–]throwaway_55111 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're talking about frame control, which is something I struggle with. Not just with women, but everyone in general

What do you suggest for me to get better with frame control? I've only been aware of frame control for maybe a week, so at the moment I'm just monitoring my frame with whoever my contacts are to realize where I stand. There are instances when I realize I should've been more alpha in the frame, but I struggle to find a good enough way to act, even a few hours later

Also, amazing job, mate! :)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Frame is not what you do, it's more where do you come from/how do you feel.

if your frame is good, you'll naturally act good.

Make yourself feel powerful and act.

Remember some memory when you felt like a boss. Capture the feeling of it. Go out and just be. But be - from that memory.

We all know the effect of passing the exam and feeling like you've conquered the world, you go out, you get attraction, you say the right words etc. It's because you feel different.

http://realneville.com/txt/changing_the_feeling_of_i.htm

[–]steadymotion5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said, OP.

[–]cugar4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dude, you get it, great post and i can relate, you've said a lot that i can't explain myself because i'm not great with words, also your tldr is awesome ahah

[–]watersign2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

don't ask, just do

[–]Human_v28 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Chill out man

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know right? Im freaking out. I cant remember the last time some new piece of knowledge changed my view this quickly and drastically. I love learning.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ironically as a beta Ive had years to sit in bars and observe social interactions as an outside and interested observer. On some level Ive just been collecting data for over a decade.

Ive seen what works over and over, Ive just been denying to myself that it works and telling myself that it shouldnt. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, it is what it is.

[–]throwaway_55111 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is an impressive transformation!! If and when possible, try and understand and document exactly what it is that catalyzed this change. I'd be very interested to know more

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ive openly espoused chivalry as the way men should approach women.

In defense of chivalry...

[–]trembley30001 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the big thing with girls (in addition to a lot of the things you mentioned) is to not give a fuck about rejection.

Lots of women (or dudes depending what you like) decide before they go out that they don't want to hook up or start anything new romantically. Nothing you can do against that but try, and if you fail keep looking for someone who'll be receptive to your charm and confidence!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy wall of text, Batman.

Congratulations on the realisation, now make your life better because of it. Read, read, read, and practice.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its strange because deep down I knew this was the way, but I hated that fact. I didn't want to accept it. In a sense that's an alpha trait, not giving up, sticking up for what you believe in, and maintaining that even at the great personal cost of being a beta. Being a beta has made me a better person. Its like fertilizer for my new growth. Each failure, each beta aspect is transformed as more and more TRP is digested.

Yeah, rejection is medicine. It feels good. Each time I am more empowered in my next encounter. Women themselves are fueling my success because WOMEN WANT the Alpha to succeed. They do this unconsciously, but their positive reinforcement of my behavior has a strong chemical basis, all my reward systems go on, I feel good about myself, I feel good in my body, and so my brain and body want to keep building these habits and it becomes a feedback loop.

Its delusional to plow ahead with a set of actions, beliefs and habits that you know is wrong and causing you to fail over and over again and continuing to do so is as they say the definition of insanity.

Total madness.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ive made things like the "nod" when you get an IOI from a HB from across the bar a natural trait.

This one sounds interesting, and I thought I've read it all. Mind explaining?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Its a forced IOI method (I think) that I learned by watching Gamblers stuff. Basically you force an IOI by smiling and nodding at attractive girls who might be staring at you from across the bar/club/store whatever.

When someone looks at you the natural habit is to look away, which is awkward. Instead you train yourself to always give a little smile and nod, a head tilt, some friendly acknowledgement. Its very neutral, but it says "I notice you, whats up?".

If the girl looks away right when you notice her (before you give the nod) she might be shy, or not interested. If she looks away only after you do the smile/nod, that's a sign of disinterest. If she smiles before she looks away, that's a sign of interest but shes probably shy. If she smiles back and holds your gaze, that's a sign of interest.

You can do this from the moment you enter the venue. Its a very casual and under the radar thing to do. The main pitfall at first is training yourself to do it in an unforced and natural way. You dont want to seem like you are intentionally doing anything because you want to be able to not approach right away without it being awkward or the interaction going stale from not approaching. I do this while I wait for a drink, or once I find a spot to chill Ill do this after a few minutes of interacting with my group to see who/if anyone is watching me.

From the girls perspective, Im just a guy at a table who looked around the bar and nodded at her. Its a forced IOI because basically every single person will react to this the moment you do it.

After about 10 minutes you will have probably caught the eye of a number of potential targets and know which ones reacted the most favorably and which ones are clearly not interested.

The real power of this forced IOI method is that if the girl smiles back and holds your gaze, thats a clear sign of interest and a green flag to approach.

[–]redpilldude0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Congratulations on getting unplugged. Now, hit the gym and start learning game. You've got a long way to go before you're ready to spin plates or have a relationship with a Red Pill Woman.

[–]Nitzi12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

what?

Long way? Dude, always take the fastest way. Don't put yourself in a cage.

"As soon I have a six pack I will talk to women"

That is shit, never regulate yourself, seize every opportunity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see what hes saying and Im keeping my expectations low and in check, but I see myself more in line with this. I try not to limit myself. For all I know by years end I will be spinning plates with ease. It all depends on where my next sticking point will be. Right now its just a time of growth so who knows where my plateau is or what Im ready to accomplish or understand with this new knowledge?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Gym is coming soon. Right now its push ups and sit ups every day, at least twice a day, just to get me into the right mindset until I can get my membership rolling.

[–]redpilldude1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Are you trying to lose weight or just build muscle? If you're trying to lose weight and build muscle at the same time, then I can give you some good advice.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No need to lose weight, Im about 155-160, 5'11 and overall average/athletic build. High metabolism. Im trying to gain mass. My goal is to have a more shapely 6 pack and more mass in my arms and chest by my birthday (spring time). Im not trying to get 'swole' though. I dont want to be a beefcake. I have the perfect body type to sculpt into a greek god physique though, and thats my goal.

[–]redpilldude0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In that case, make sure to lift heavy free weights several times per week and take protein supplements. Good luck!

[–]INomYou2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

R/supplements was helpful for me when I started working out regularly.

[–]widec0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What about trying to gain weight and build muscle?

[–]redpilldude0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In this case, you should eat healthy, lift heavy free weights several days per week, and take protein supplements after your workouts.

[–]AlmostRP0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you want other women to see your dick you can streak on national tv. Not saying it's a good idea, but if it'd make you feel better... go for it.

[+]Nitzi-8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Adamantine_Mine enjoy this time, soon you will realize how fucked the red pill is.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Care to expand on that thought?

[–]Nitzi1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine you come new to this sub, it is very unlikely that you will get unplugged. The idiots and wanna be alphas are much louder than the elite that lured them here in the first place. Just look at the top posts, nearly no red pill knowledge there. Just shit. And the numbers of subscribers will rise, everyday. How many of them are alpha? How many are unplugged, how many can bring in new knowledge? Intelectual incest and circle jerking are ineviteable.

[–]trembley30001 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hearts in the right place, it just attracts alot of shitheads ready to blame a group of people for their problems

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