What's the average success rate when approaching women at bars?

Efficient_Film_149 · 2021-03-28T12:53:34+00:00

You’ll go one month picking up everything you lay your eyes on. Next month women won’t even give you the time of day. It’s a strike while the iron is hot game.

RPNemo · 2021-03-28T11:05:23+00:00

The average success is no success. You aren't even on monk mode if you are working on your social at the same time.

ForeverKarlMalone · 2021-03-28T14:09:48+00:00

Logistics is your biggest enemy to getting laid once you can consistently isolate and get girls attracted.

Even the best men in the world will lose sex due to logistics

michael1962-01 · 2021-03-28T10:50:47+00:00

Can be the first. Can be 50. It's a number game.

masmiester · 2021-03-28T16:40:47+00:00

Honestly it will probably be pretty tough. Especially if you are inexperienced and/or rusty.

You need to find your own vibe, that takes time to be fully congruent. Take it step by step, don't worry about about Not making quick progress, all progress is good, baby steps each time.keep a game diary where you do write up as it helps internalise what you did good/bad.

IF you have never approached before, even getting past 'AA' is a big step, that is progress, most men never even approach.

Make sure the guys you are with don't just give up after a couple of times ( most friends do), make sure the guys are 'Win-Win' guys who encourage you and don't undermine you or creep people out. Don't be outcome dependant, go out to have fun and be social, and talk to chicks - some times it goes well, other times times it does not.

Keep at it, it's defo worth it at the end. Believe in yourself.

Edit ( spaces added) also remember than a night can switch from 'shite' to epic within seconds, never stop going out or trying.

Woujo · 2021-03-28T17:32:01+00:00

Your success rate is completely dependent on how good looking you are and how good your game is.

If you are Leonardo DiCaprio, your success rate will be like 80%.

If you are just a regular good looking guy, it's like 50%.

If you are an average looking guy with decent game, probably like 10-20%.

But is a complete crapshoot. You can get a humiliating rejection from a 5, and then walk over and get a positive reaction from a 9. You can't expect mathematical certainty in this shit.

coffeevstea275 · 2021-03-28T18:11:43+00:00

Don't even ask. Just do it, like Nike.

319Skew · 2021-03-28T12:41:07+00:00

It's a numbers game but there's no clear answer since you're selling yourself and I don't know what your market is.

You could be selling spice from Arrakis or you could be selling ice to an Inuit.

Anecdotally, I'd say:

0-5: Stop and work on your SMV

5-9: You're not attractive or calibrated

10-19 Average looks but inept/social autism

20-29 Average looks but boring

30-39 Above average looks or charming

40-59 Above average looks + charming

60-79 Good looks + charming

80-89 Chad looks + smooth + great SMV

90-99 God tier in looks+ perfect game+high SMV

100 - FICTION

Keep in mind that this is a very rough guideline for a number close. It's not a numbers guide for lays.

Assuming that you approach 100 women, I'd say that this is a fair expectation.

Since so much depends on women, the atmosphere, you, your skill, etc. asking for anything exact is like asking how long is a piece of string.

jverveslayer · 2021-03-28T20:19:13+00:00

This depends on a lot of factors. If you're come across as nervous, don't look good, are a beginner, etc, you're not going to have any success (until you improve, of course). On the other hand, the guys who are really good at this can consistently get laid almost every time they go out (even multiple times in the same night) at the right venues. I've been out with a few guys like this before, and they don't have to do a lot of approaches to get laid either (they have a very good sense for which girls might be receptive).

As for average.... the average guy doesn't even approach, but even among those who do, a lot of them aren't that good. You can get good enough to get laid in nightgame pretty quickly if you already

Have the balls to approach, be sexual, and come off as bold, not nervous
Have good social skills and social awareness
Look decent (not fat, dress well, good grooming, etc.)

If you have the above three and you also have good resources to learn from (this is hard, because there's lots of bs or just super basic advice online, and most guys into pickup are weird), then you can get good enough to get laid in a few months of going out regularly.

Personally, my approaches-to-lays ratio was pretty low from night game. I went out for a few months before I stopped due to getting into an LTR. I got to the point where I could approach sets, hook girls, deal with groups, sexualize, etc pretty easily. A few sets would blow me off immediately and I couldn't get through, but the rest, I'd always get girls who were interested and really flirty/attracted. I was getting stuck pulling/managing logistics/dealing with friends when I quit. You have to be really decisive and be able to deal with a lot of things quickly and assertively for that part. I'd get stuff like girls getting a phone call from their cousin they were staying with as I was trying to flag down an uber, and saying they had to leave and losing them and shit like that.

vov1n · 2021-03-28T16:45:27+00:00

"monk mode" is so cringe lmao

RodolfoTheWriter · 2021-03-28T17:56:22+00:00

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power_cleaner · 2021-03-28T17:58:05+00:00

It’s easy to gain more than 5 lbs of muscle your first year lifting. Expecting more than 15-20 though you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.

Also depends on how you look. If you’re attractive still hard but you’ll have opportunities. If not we’ll I wouldn’t bother.

DonuInitial · 2021-03-28T18:08:18+00:00

For the most part this is purely a numbers game. Higher SMV = more lays. Is it really that complicated? Read the sidebar.

throwitdownman · 2021-03-28T18:27:49+00:00

Pretty surprised at the numbers people posted. Unless you have negative EQ and literally only approach women who are CLEARLY preoccupied, I’d go as far as to say it’s impossible not to get at least a conversation with a stranger in 30minutes.

Talk, make an impression, then leave to mingle with other people. I find it quite hard to believe people can go into a bar (with the intention of socialising) and not get ONE conversation the entire night. If you’re literally at a bar with unfriendly people, which can happen, simply go to another bar.

Of course, if you mean ‘success’ as in a one night stand, then the numbers plummet and it feel like ‘right place, right time with the right horny chick’ wins out rather than appearance, technique, or game. In that case, from my experience, the best chance to get a ONS would be at a club.

NotSureEngineer · 2021-03-28T23:55:31+00:00

Please go into the bar with zero expectations except for having a good time with friends. Trust me on this. Triply so because you have zero experience.

GetChillGetThrills · 2021-03-29T00:19:34+00:00

Depending on how good you look, but 1/100 for approaches is generally accepted. If you're good looking it might be 1/20 though

RodolfoTheWriter · 2021-03-29T01:13:25+00:00

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ItWasAlwaysOver · 2021-03-28T11:32:25+00:00

100% if you have good game i mean genetics

RodolfoTheWriter · 2021-03-28T10:34:51+00:00

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Title	What's the average success rate when approaching women at bars?
Author	RodolfoTheWriter
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Date	March 28, 2021 10:29 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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