I refuse to escalate!

DangZagnut · 2020-07-21T03:15:28+00:00

To be honest, this isn't the right place, but I don't see where there's anything wrong with this post. If you want nonsense picking-up-women-in-bars stuff, you'll want /r/theredpill

I don't give seduction advice as a general rule, but what works for me, probably won't work for other people.

But since you're here.

You know how women show interest in you? They will try to arrange time being around you. If a woman isn't interested in you she will stay away from you.

Any woman who isn't actively interacting with you regularly, is not interested. Period. Even if she is interested but ignores you, is shy, won't talk to you, you don't want her anyway, and that's just all lies anyway.

Women who want to be touched will put herself in a position to be touched. She will either initiate something physical, like "reading your palm" or other similar BS as an excuse to touch you, want to be interactive, nudge you, she might touch your hair with an excuse, intentionally need your help getting up if she was sitting down, etc.

She will offer you an excuse to break the ice.

When I was wasting my life dating, I never touched them either, or even asked them out, because the nature of seduction is time. If you're trying to pick up bar sluts then do the red pill nonsense with "game" and "one liners" or whatever the hell.

Another thing I'd do if I want to make out, is just sit and look at her. Women are easy to jedi mind trick and you can hypnotize them like a rattle snake. I remain absolutely still and just look at them.

You know how in movies there's these uncomfortable scenes with two people staring into each other's eyes and then they grab each other and start making out? It's because it works.

Seduction is sexual tension not being acted on. It's words and actions, not just grabbing a slut and fucking her. That's for the second date.

Knowing how to flirt successfully, knowing what will work on a specific woman, is a useful skill. I wasn't sexually successful because of my looks.

But I'm good at making a woman feel all my attention is on them without being creepy about it.

The tension builds, and they're forced to initiate.

Of course, this only works when you have the correct power dynamic, which means that if you're chasing a chick, they have the power, the way I do it, I have the power. And because of sunk cost fallacies, if she's put any energy in, now she doesn't want to have wasted it, so it makes her more prone to being seduced.

Of course I would only return interest in women that have certain qualities I enjoyed.

Now you see why I don't offer seduction advice? Some idiot will assume you should turn into a statue and stare at them and will look creepy as shit. Or think flirting means texting her 99 times an hour whether she responds or not with stupid one liners.

Seduction is about doing as little as possible and making the other person do all the work. The other person in this is a woman, and women are filled with sexual and romance fantasies. When someone doesn't pursue them like they're used to then you're different. You're interesting. Why didn't you try and grab her ass? Then she's thinking about it.

If she wasn't interested then there's no problem. It's pretty easy to know there's no chemistry. Chasing women just to get laid is going to take far more work and energy and money and only really works on stupid women.

If you like stupid women, then pickup lines and manipulation works, because they're stupid.

Flat4DIT · 2020-07-21T11:41:07+00:00

Lol, women are simple.

Be Chad.
Don't not be Chad.

You can't negotiate attraction no matter what someone tells you. That's not how it works. There is no magic trick.

dnnastyness1992 · 2020-07-21T09:34:08+00:00

With all due respect, that's not a good reason to go MGTOW. You'd be more like an incel than a MGTOW in my opinion.

I agree that it's unfair that kino escalation falls on men, but the reason you're not doing it is out of fear of rejection, which comes from being overly anxious or having low self esteem

symtexxx · 2020-07-21T04:44:26+00:00

Bruh you're overthinking it. Forget kino and all the BS. Be empathetic and read the girl body language and expression. Vibe and flow with her. Have a maturity mindset. Fill your head with positive thoughts about everybody and everything. Follow your instinct and act upon it with CONFIDENCE. It will show in your body language when you make your move.

SparkyMcBiff · 2020-07-21T19:15:35+00:00

I stopped reading at the phrase "kino escalation" because I knew that this would be a waste of my time about stupid BULLSHIT by some mind-controlled soy-boy. (eg. ...I will NEVER. EVER. TOUCH. FIRST..).

You're a pathetic loser and you will always be a loser with women with that moronic mind set.

justinhinds · 2020-07-21T04:10:52+00:00

Thanks to severe anxiety, I was a late bloomer who lost his virginity at 21 to a highly assertive girl who did all the escalating. Spent the whole summer screwing. The entire experience was quite validating and enjoyable. When we parted ways I couldn't wait to repeat the experience with someone else. I didn't realize at the time that I'd still be waiting 30 years later. Sure, I've been in a few relationships since, but each one required me to do all the legwork traditionally expected of the man, and I hated every minute of it.

Now, at 53, my libido isn't what it used to be, so choosing to no longer chase woman became an easy decision. Either she's into me and clearly shows it or she's not. Like someone else said, learn to read the signs.

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Title	I refuse to escalate!
Author	Shaikidow
Upvotes	4
Comments	29
Date	July 21, 2020 1:38 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW2
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