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Ford v Ferrari depicts a ‘car guy’ generation best left in the past | Apparently a film about something that almost only men are interested in is sexist because most of the characters are male. Why can't feminists ever leave men pursuing men's interests alone?

EricAllonde

November 23, 2019
240 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/movies/ford-v-ferrari-depicts-a-car-guy-generation-best-left-dead-and-gone
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Title Ford v Ferrari depicts a ‘car guy’ generation best left in the past | Apparently a film about something that almost only men are interested in is sexist because most of the characters are male. Why can't feminists ever leave men pursuing men's interests alone?
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EricAllonde

Upvotes 240
Comments 47
Date November 23, 2019 2:06 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/e0be2v/ford_v_ferrari_depicts_a_car_guy_generation_best/
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[–]the_evil_morty93 83 points84 points85 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I just watched this movie and noticed two really important things. The first being that I saw a lot of older men with their wives in the theatre. I actually overheard two of them saying (separately, to their respective wives) that they hadn't been to the cinema in years but just HAD to see this movie. The second is that the two main characters in this film are self made men. They pour actual blood, sweat, and tears into this project. They put their bodies, time, money, and livelihood into the building and perfecting of the GT40. Ken Miles also was portrayed as a loving, intelligent, gentle, caring father who clearly loves his son and it's also clear that his son adores his father and the work he does.

All of this is why feminist hate this movie. Plus it involves cars, which to them, are uninteresting and probably shaped too much like penises.

[–]Calpernia09 46 points47 points48 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

My husband loves cars.

My 2 year old son loves anything with an engine.

As a baby we were in a grocery store parking lot and a big diesel truck drove by. The second he heard the engine he stared at it and watched it as it drove up and down the rows and out.

This is his natural interest. My girls don't care for them at all this way.

Feminists piss me off.

[–]antilopes 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I saw a feminist reviewer who really liked Ford vs Ferrari. She's not particularly interested in cars.

Her main review was critical of one of the current crop of movies with women replacing men in the leading roles. She didn't like it for that reason.

[–]RacelessSexlessName 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Link?

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I tried but my Google skills have failed. I can't remember the movie she was mainly reviewing but it was likely Charlie's Angels. In which case the criticism cited is likely not the right one, there are a number of common criticisms of the recent heroine movies.

[–]RacelessSexlessName 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As much flack as it's getting it still did almost 70% of its budget on opening weekend, the same percentage that FvF has so far. One more really big budget tank might make it stop, but they seem to have gotten a little more careful with the money/sjw rates.

[–]mgtowolf 51 points52 points53 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why can't feminists ever leave men pursuing men's interests alone?

Because anything that brings the devil any joy or fulfillment is obviously evil.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

When a woman asks me what I've been doing and I mention I've been doing some maintenance work on my car, they ask "why don't you just take it to the repair shop". They can't conceive the satisfaction of fixing it myself, doing it right (vs having to return due to a bad repair) and from saving money.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You remind me of Hank Hill...

[–]xNOM 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"I need new shoes."

"Just let the sales clerk pick some out for you"

"Great idea!" ...said no woman ever.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha ha good analogy!

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The comments section of the article are priceless.

The author's dismissive view of this movie is probably one of the greatest motivators to go see it. Whenever an SJW disapproves of a movie, you can bet it's worth the effort to go see it yourself.

and...

Wow. SJWs are never satisfied. If it doesnt check off the 10 Golden Rules of Identity Politics it is relegated to the trash bin and criticized with impunity. Joker made a billion dollars...a comic book film. I think that people want these movies - sort of proves a point. This article is just insipid, regurgitated hive-mind drivel that's far too common amongst the WOKE media. Get woke....go broke.

​

Looks like I need to take my wife out to dinner and a movie.

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points54 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ford vs Ferrari, the sexist mysogynistic retelling of a tired old male story sold first in its opening weekend, $31 million.

Charlie's Angels, a modern retelling of a woke feminist empowerment story bombed in the same weekend, $8 million.

Perhaps it's time to stop paying attention to the feminists altogether.

[–]Vashstampede20 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Who in 2019 cares about Charlie's angles?

[–]FlamingTrollz 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Elizabeth Banks needed a paycheck, and the current owner needed to produce a film to keep the IP rights.

So, garbage reasons from garbage people.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We should have never started in the first place.

[–]NecroHexr 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

aRE YOU IMPLYING THAT RACING IS ONLY FOR MEN??? SEXIST PIG

[–]Greg_W_Allan 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been to one motor racing event in my life - an Australian Grand Prix and only because a female friend was dead keen.

[–]xNOM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Women make horrible mechanics. And even horribler (sp) professional race car drivers.

[–]PlatinumBeetle 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What are you basing this assessment on? If you're going to make such generalized statements then please back them up with something, anything.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women drive more slowly and crash more often per mile driven. They are more likely than men to fail the on-road driving test. The thing they fail the most often on, is parking.

There are almost no female professional drivers. Trucks, taxis, you name it. Only one woman ever has won a Formula One point. There are even fewer female auto mechanics.

[–]PlatinumBeetle 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

[–]xNOM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

? It's not reasoning. It's data. Feel free to verify yourself.

[–]PlatinumBeetle 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't even know where to begin. I have no idea what sources I'd need to go to find the data myself.

And I don't think I care enough to bother. Just like I wouldn't if someone claimed men are less good on average at and less likely to be involved in some interest or pursuit considered overwhelmingly feminine. As long as that isn't used as a way to exclude or prejudge someone based on their sex then it may be nothing more than a statistical fact.

I doubt that even if I did all the research and you were basically right that I'd think it was justified to make such a broad blanket statement. The trends would all have to be extremely strong for that, and if I said it in a public place like this I might well still qualify it in some way. We likely just have different standards for how strong a statistic has to be before it's okay to restate it as if it was a true universal.

Thanks for saying what it's based off in some way. That's all I really wanted. Some sort of explanation.

[–]Blutarg 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, let's leave problem-solving, courage, and dedication in the past! Who needs 'em?

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Hey they sold me! I'm not particularly a car guy but if they hate this movie then it has to be good.

[–]EricAllonde[S] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, me too. Right before I posted this review I decided to go see the movie tomorrow. I also had no real interest until I read this, but it does sound great.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its fucking good, highly recommended. Funny moments too

[–]PlatinumBeetle 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is it really good enough for someone who doesn't like cars at all to enjoy?

I'm not into cars, but y'all are making it sound worth seeing anyway. Is it?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly with that cast it might be. I still haven't seen it yet. Going this weekend.

[–]CourtOrphanage 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My favorite part is when the guys wife freaks out and starts driving fast up the road because he went out with his friend the night before. She didnt even give him a chance to explain himself she just sped up the street yelling at him. I've seen that trope played out in so many movies and realized that women see this shit in movies and think its ok to do in real life...

Like in movies when they think its ok to nuke a marriage or relationship over a small fight or miscommunication and make the dude "prove" himself by chasing after them.

[–]I_identify_asA_Chad 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That scene is more of a reflection of women's actions. Girls will do bullshit things like that wether they see it on a movie or not, and that's why it was inserted in the movie as an example

[–]YooGeOh 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"Girls Trip" was all about women and they dominated screen time. Men were merely filler whilst the film was centred on women and their interests. They all wore makeup. Loads of makeup companies have female CEOs. More women are interested in makeup than men but we'll ignore that.

The film was sexist against men and the makeup industry is too

[–]andybev01 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The last Ghostbusters movie. Fried Green Tomatoes Mermaids. Witches of Eastwick. ...anything with Demi Moore, Cher, etc. Thelma and Louise. Steel Magnolias. The Notebook. ...anything with Julia Roberts, Melanie Griffiths, etc. Mean Girls. Sex and The City. Clueless. ...anything with Hugh Grant, Richard Gere, etc.

[–]redditor_aborigine 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An Officer and a Gentleman had something for everyone.

[–]ifelsedowhile 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder what she thinks of The Right Stuff (1983)

[–]pennywise1235 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So, the critic here is upset that an historically accurate portrayal of this time frame was not rewritten to include a social diverse or inclusive cast because a film can’t be worth watching unless the entirety of the plot has been rewritten to show persons of color, creed, sexual or gender identification other than heterosexual white men? Is that about the gist of it?

[–]EricAllonde[S] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–]pennywise1235 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s as stupid as the rumor about the studios wanting Julia Roberts to play Harriet Tubman.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I read this in PC Principal's voice. 😆

[–]Mens_rights_matter2 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism isn’t about equality anymore it’s about shaming men for being themselves at every possible point and both gaining and maintaining their privilege in society.

[–]PlatinumBeetle 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was NEVER about equality for both sexes, just for females. And now they have run out of things for females to be more equal in. They HAVE to fight imaginary or insignificant sexism to maintain their movement, all the real sexism against females has already been dealt with as much as is feasible. And they HAVE to demonize men, or they have no way to assert the reality of Patriarchy Theory because all the sexism in favor of males has already been eliminated as much is as feasible too, so to think men are oppressors they are forced to believe it's inherent. This blatantly ridiculous stuff is necessary for feminism to even really exist anymore.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

best left in the past

I know journalists stoop down to shaping opinions, but this is too overt.

[–]Autistocrat 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Say that about Mamma Mia or the Notebook.

[–]DuFF90INF 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Had no clue there was a mens rights group on reddit. I was just googling how older guys felt about this movie because Im trying to get my dad to watch it. Joined!

[–]EricAllonde[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome!

[–]OscarAlexHasEntered 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They could have handled the ending better, it wasn’t a perfect movie and it would have been better if that technicality was mentioned at some point in the beginning, but other than that, it was a really amazing movie. The actors brought their A game, the cars alone made it worth it.

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