I am a woman who would like to embrace the red pill

pony1108 · 2013-12-11T20:30:48+00:00

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pony1108 · 2013-12-11T20:21:59+00:00

The next time you want to say "no" to her, just say it. It'll be difficult. You'll feel guilty. But stick up for yourself, and stand by your decision.

If you don't stand up for yourself, you can't expect anyone else to stand up for you, and you certainly can't expect anyone else to respect you.

Unfortunately, once someone learns they can walk all over you, it's incredibly difficult to ever change that. Your weakness and supplication become their expectation. It becomes something they're entitled to. Any deviation from the norm is taken as an affront to them.

Not only is any deviation from the norm an affront to them, it's coming from someone they don't respect. So they're even more insulted!

I'd be prepared to walk away from this relationship.

Archwinger · 2013-12-11T20:58:17+00:00

I'm not sure how applicable a lot of the prevailing viewpoints here on male-female relationships might be when both individuals are female. I suppose the general advice should fit well.

Be independent. Have your own life, your own hobbies and interests, your own successful career, your own friends, and get yourself into a place where you don't need your SO, like she's the only thing you have going on in your life, but choose her as one of many things that are important to you.

Be confident. Get physically fit, professionally successful, socially apt, well read, and good with yourself -- so that you're comfortable with the fact that you'd be able to move on and find someone else if things went south with your SO. That way, you're not shaking with fear when you stand up to your SO.

Have a spine. Ask for what you want, sex included (it's okay if your SO says no, but if you're not asking at all because you fear rejection, that is itself, extremely unattractive). Do what you want often, without asking permission. You do not need your SO's permission to live your own life. She's your girlfriend, not your employer. Don't give in when she orders you to do petty and trivial things she could easily do herself just to assert herself over you. Don't stand for any disrespect (especially public, but shoot her down when you're alone, too).

And be attractive. Just doing the three paragraphs above with consistency makes you more attractive already, but dressing well, maintaining your appearance, working on getting comfortable talking to people in a variety of situations, and just generally becoming the kind of person people actually want to be with makes you attractive to others. If there's one thing women love in a man (and I guess a woman if they're a lesbian), it's somebody that could have another woman, but chose them. Somebody who's an unattractive loser and couldn't land anybody else if their life depended on it is the kind of person who gets disrespected, cheated on, and dumped.

2013-12-11T21:00:07+00:00

who won me over

Isn't the answer in your question? She had to win you over to get a relationship with you right? Now she knows you're not going anywhere. You need to embrace the dread game, probably with some subtle (or not) external validation...

jmikolash · 2013-12-11T21:53:31+00:00

You should research and understand the concepts of frame and dread.

Check out:

http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/12/frame/

http://therationalmale.com/2013/05/13/soft-dread/

Application of these and other game concepts:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

pony1108 · 2013-12-11T20:26:20+00:00

Read 48 Laws of Power.

pony1108 · 2013-12-11T20:06:03+00:00

What do you want out of being the Alpha in the relationship? I think that having a bit more information in this area would allow for better responses, since there's a common theme that women want control and then once they achieve it don't respect/care about the person they're controlling.

Edit: if possible, include your thought process.

TheEyeUrnShaft · 2013-12-12T02:16:19+00:00

thinking it wouldn't be well received that 1) I am a woman and 2) that I'm a lesbian.

We don't care about your sex or orientation. Power in LTRs boils down to whether or not she knows you have options and whether or not she knows that you're willing to walk. How you show her these things is up to you.

pony1108 · 2013-12-11T19:54:34+00:00

I have come across an especially cunning woman, who won me over with her gorgeous spanish ass, titties, overall body, thick mahogany black curly hair and that exotic sex-freak vibe.

Are you certain you were the "alpha" before and now you're not? Because it sounds to me like you've just settled into a relationship. Is she withholding sex or is she just not giving you all the sex you want?

birdwontquit · 2013-12-12T01:43:31+00:00

Listen to all 13 episodes of The Black Philip Show by Patrice O'Neal.

Why has this woman allowed you to become pathetic? If she left what would you miss? Other than sex. Everything you've described about her is physical/sexual. I've gotten over dimes. Once they're gone everything is the same.

Do you want to leave her, or gain your power back in the relationship? Either way, the answer is the same, she needs to know you can leave her and be just fine with it. Willingness to walk away.

Generally, women are attracted to three things.

1) Confidence. This should be self-explanatory. If you don't know what confidence is let me know and I'll explain.

2) Self-control. This is the willingness to deprive yourself of what you want on principle. Think of the ability to not eat a dessert in order to stay fit. When applied to her this means turning her down for sex if she is using it to manipulate you. You said she gives you sex on her terms. Next time say "no thanks, I'm good". Flip it. Have some self-control. Show some backbone bitch. Don't be needy. Don't be eager. When she wants to see you and you're busy or you're annoyed at her, say no. When she wants you to do something you don't want to do, say no. Watch how the word "no" a few times will get her pussy wet. Note, I'm not saying say no to manipulate her, but rather say no because that's what you WANT to do. You don't want to fuck her when she throws you some pussy when she feels like it. You're resentful and angry of the control she has over you. But you do it cause you're WEAK.

3) An element of challenge. This is similar to the one above, but basically means you're not too easy. Make her compete and work for your time, affection, energy etc. Everyone wants what they can't have. She should feel like she "got" you.

dirtyhotthrowaway · 2013-12-11T22:53:36+00:00

A woman's source of control are in tantrums, your need/want for sex, and your presence.

Tantrums- must develop tunnel vision. Stay calm, let her have no control over your emotions. Most people (like myself) become beta in a LTR because we would rather not deal with it. It's easier to roll over and have her way, but it obvious leads to a lack of respect. I have to consciously nip problems while they happen, not later.

Sex- the tool of the trade, her version of TRP. Women can be like crack dealers; give you enough free until you're hooked, then you have to pay. Learn to not be motivated by her sex; if she wants to have it great but you're not going to beg. Generally not allowing her to run over you will bring this back, to the point where you shouldn't worry about this until that is in check. Once it is but you need help getting favors back, what I'll do is lick my girl out until she comes, then walk away from it. Too often we do nice things in exchange for sex (which even applies to sex), which just shows it's power. Eat her pussy like fuck you, I just like eating pussy and she won't want to lose you.

Presence- girls give bullshit when they think they're so above you you won't leave. To be honest in a less civilized past men would probably just assert physical dominance, ie smack her for dealing with a lot of this crap. I know I wouldn't want my daughter, sister or mother living in that type of society, so the next best thing is your ability to leave. If you can't leave, then you can't have her.

redpillschool · 2013-12-12T02:15:37+00:00

Can one of the mods remove this useless thread?

Any post that begins with "i am a woman" or "i am a girl" should be auto-banned and removed.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-12-12T03:10:06+00:00

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Title	I am a woman who would like to embrace the red pill
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Date	December 11, 2013 7:44 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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