Why won’t you marry me Larry?? Why don’t men marry? Because there’s nothing in it for them: What exactly does marriage offer men today? “Men know there’s a good chance they’ll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and — if it all goes wrong — their family,”

2018-09-08T18:11:57+00:00

After decades of browbeating, men are tired. Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s their fault. The rise of women has not threatened men. It has just irritated them.

Evildl17 · 2018-09-08T18:18:00+00:00

This article is terrible. They have the right idea that its all about risk/reward, but seriously? "Oh, men just want sex and women are whores now." F, you Fox News. Then saying we're all just afraid of becoming sitcom stereotypes where the woman isn't a good little housewife? F you again. This ratchet a** compiling of mens issues misses the point on every single claim.

Its not that we want or need to take care of women, or want or need them to take care of us, its that we want respect in a relationship and recognition for the roles we do play in it and the sacrifices we make for it. I would say media representation has nothing to do with this issue outside of how it operates within a binary, to drive men to be perfect idealized versions of ourselves lest we become the buffoon. (Which works both ways and the illusion is another thing killing relationships in general.) Even still, this argument relies on us wanting to fit into traditional gender roles which is the exact opposite of what men want because it's the kind of BS that tells us to "man up" and shut up and just put food on the table.

The only point they get right is the massive risk of divorce. I do appreciate the attempt at understanding, but this only hurts us.

dontpet · 2018-09-09T11:44:54+00:00

I used to be in that boat, saying why marry? About mid 40s after a large number of lovers I found someone I really like and married her.

I was surprised in wanting to do this. It isn't entirely rational, as many of you say it isn't.

I just wanted her to stay. She was about as good as I was going to get and I just liked her a lot. I expect she will see me out of the world.

After 12 years and 1 child, I still like her. I'm glad I didn't marry earlier. But I'm glad I married her.

I hope you guys find something similar eventually.

LeBouffonRoi · 2018-09-09T03:18:42+00:00

Honestly, I think that we'd have to seriously take into account that people just don't associate with religion as much as they used to. Marriage and religion have kind of gone together to a certain extent, and there's less and less truly religious people anymore.

superzepto · 2018-09-09T00:29:47+00:00

I'm getting married and there's plenty in it for me. It's not a black and white debate.

1LegendaryWombat · 2018-09-09T05:43:54+00:00

Yep, i agree with the trend. Personally i think marriage is a sham, an expensive sham at that.

If you really want to spend the rest of your life with someone, just do it. Doesn't require a ring, a big humbug or any of that crap. Too often marriage means the death of a relationship soon after. The Diamond industry is dying, marriage is dying and more, all these 'traditional' and useless things in society are going to way of the dodo because people are finally wising up to them.

thrway_1000 · 2018-09-08T17:52:13+00:00

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fasterfind · 2018-09-09T16:19:22+00:00

Women fail the sandwich test. They'll never make one for you, under any circumstances. Why are sandwiches a big deal? Because they're dead simple to make. Even someone that is waving hands in the air, "I can't coooook" can make a sandwich. But they won't, will they?

I've cooked for every single one of my girlfriends. None of them have cooked for me, ever. It never happens. Is that not a form of privilege? Out of dozens of people I've dated, only two ever bought me a dinner. Privilege? Almost zero gifts. Bottom line, they ain't trying too hard, and they aren't feeling much.

I've had more guys cook for me and buy me food than women.

Think about it, really think about it. What has any girl ever done for you? Even something small. It's really hard to think of just a few examples. But then flip the tables. You've done so much shit for them you could write a book.

Are you married? Compare father's day to mother's day.

Sex? Trigger word.

Women kinda treat men like shit. Period. It's getting harder for me to understand why someone would want to get married.

gloryhole87 · 2018-09-09T23:34:48+00:00

I’d be all for a ceremonial religious marriage, calling her my wife. But not legally

McGauth925 · 2018-09-12T22:33:42+00:00

Yeah, this is what appeals to me about MGTOW. I really don't understand a number of their issues,and the misogny really is rampant. But, marriage with, children with, or living with a woman - MISTAKE!!!

In what other area of their life would a rational person, man or woman, accept a 50% risk of losing their home, access to their children, half their wealth - regardless of who earned it, and a significant part of their income?

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