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Wolf-whistles a hate crime? No, what really harms women is assuming we’re too feeble to cope with them.

furchfur

July 12, 2018
141 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title Wolf-whistles a hate crime? No, what really harms women is assuming we’re too feeble to cope with them.
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furchfur

Upvotes 141
Comments 23
Date July 12, 2018 9:41 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8y8a1n/wolfwhistles_a_hate_crime_no_what_really_harms/
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Comments

[+]Daddie01 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Reminds me of this gem:

Feminist Admits She Misses Catcalls, Blames Society

6:25 PM 07/20/2015

Blake Neff | Reporter

A feminist blogger and activist writing in The Guardian has a problem: She misses the catcalls she used to get on the street. And society, she writes, is to blame for that.

“The comments and lascivious stares from men have faded away the older I’ve gotten, leaving an understandable sense of relief,” writes Jessica Valenti. “But alongside that is a slightly embarrassing feeling of insecurity that, with every year that goes by, I become more and more invisible to men.”

Men frequently behave in an outrageous manner toward women they don’t know, Valenti acknowledges. She recounts a man masturbating near her on a subway platform, and another who leaned in to whisper “I want to lick you.”

Still, Valenti reflects, it wasn’t all bad.

“As much as I wish it didn’t, the thought of not being worth men’s notice bothers me. To my great shame, I assume I must look particularly good on the rarer days that I do get catcalled.”

Why does Valenti feel this way? It’s not her true self, she says, but rather society that’s to blame.

“When you’re brought up to feel that the most important thing you can be is attractive to men, the absence of their attention – even negative attention – can feel distressing,” she says. “I can admit that – even as a seasoned feminist – sexism is a powerful enough force to still reside my head. Maybe by acknowledging as much I can begin to let it go.”

No it's not society, it's her narcissism, and bat shit crazyism.

"Don't look at me!" OK have it your way, we will stop.

"Why doesn't anyone look at me?" "Fucking society!"

[–]fengpi 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Valenti is living proof that you can get your brains fucked out.

[–]fengpi 35 points36 points37 points 8 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

You know what will never become a hate crime?

Buying women drinks.

That will never go out of style.

Whistling? Hate crime. Salty jokes? Hate crime. Looking at a woman while being slightly short or goofy-looking? Hate crime. Porn-peeking? Hate crime. Sexy joke repeating? Hate crime. Eating garlic? Hate crime. Standing too close to a woman in an elevator? Hate crime.

But... buying women drinks?

Oh, well, we certainly need to keep that one intact. That little outdated nugget of a patriarchal throwback will never ever ever become a hate crime. Some pass-times are sacrosanct.

It will be the single, solitary male-initiated activity that will remain so in perpetuity. The only non-hate-crime a man can commit. For some reason.

[–]sage-in-my-sausage 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Slippery slope. "He bought me one drink and took advantage of me"

[–]Stonedlandscaper 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude. I shit you not I met an attractive girl at a kareoke bar who had the best voice in the house and we talked all night and then i got her number and she never once even hinted at wanting me to buy her a drink. I couldnt believe what was happening.

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Must've been her no drinking day.

[–]Stonedlandscaper 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah she bought her own drinks all night.

[–]TheImpossible1 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are literal parasites.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd love to know the logic behind making "I find this woman sexually attractive so I'll whistle at her" a "hate crime".

Seems more like a lust stupidity than a hate crime. "Hate crimes" in general should all be removed from the books, legislating based off of emotion is incredibly stupid.

[–]fengpi 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Sexual interest is hate when a man does it. It's very dissimilar to when a chick cuts your dick, that's just rebellion and totally justifiable. Also ok: Ms. Science Teacher grooming her little harem of 14 year old boy-toys. Bonus points if she was married to some 45 year old schlub.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"She believes the move could trivialise the suffering of victims of true hate crime"

This is true. When everything is a hate crime nothing is. We become desensitized to it.

[–]Imnotmrabut 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

"Feminists do make a habit of advancing the claim, explicitly or implicitly, to represent all women."
Neil Lyndon, No More Sex War (1992)

[–]TheImpossible1 -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's naïve to believe they don't actually represent all women..

You don't see them against this when it benefits them.

[–]Cristi_Tanase 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

right wing media tries to stop the left lunacy... but all they do is confuse young men and trick them into believing that the norms of the past are still in place

when conservatives came to power in UK everyone hoped that the male hating feminists will be removed, boys and men will get a leg up on education and the social norms will be reversed to a more sane environment...

What happened was the reverse! Conservatives funded even more the feminist departments, that instantly doubled down on their blatant anti-male discrimination. Even worst conservatives rally with the feminists to create horrible laws that discriminate even more!

No more women in jail... a radical feminist drea... approved by conservatives! Fining young men for displaying "unwelcomed attention"... another radical feminist wet dream... UK conservatives make it happen!

There was not a single gain for men all these years! UK men got obliterated by the conservatives... even worst than before!

And now they even chicken out on Brexit... this it an abject failure of UK conservatives!

And who put them in power? Men did... hoping they will enact policies that will stop the leftist identity policy lunacy!... and let's not even talk about migrants... or BBC's attitudes toward "white men"...

[–]TheImpossible1 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Putting a woman in charge was always going to result in this.

Also, Conservatives before May came along didn't really do anything for either side....

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love it when I'm wolf whistled.

It's both goofy and a compliment.

Can these people stop ruining other's fun?

[–]Akesgeroth 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Flipping someone the bird isn't a hate crime either, but it's still fucking rude.

[–]AbyssinianLion 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is wolf whistling still a thing? I haven't heard anyone wolf whistle at an attractive lady for atleast a decade, and I work near a university and a construction site. Most guys these days are very apprehensive about commenting on the appearance of women they don't know.

[–]fengpi 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter. It happened to a friend of a friend in 1988, so all men do it all the time.

You ever wonder why it's always construction workers who seem to arouse so much ire? Probably because working-class men are poor low income low class "not ambitious" so they're disgusting and it's very different from when a rich wealthy loaded "ambitious" man whistles at them from behind the wheel of a Bugatti Veyron.

[–]Philip8000 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they'll still be unhappy about it. I've read numerous articles and statements that say (paraphrasing): "Ten years ago, I was unhappy because guys were hitting on me. Now I'm unhappy because no guys are hitting on me." Even the "I-bathe-in-male-tears" Jessica Valenti admitted to missing catcalling.

Either way, you can't win.

[–]DiamondxCrafting 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Stop wolf-whistling
Start wolf-whistling
Open doors for women
Don't open doors for women
...

[–]Tank-o-grad 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always makes me think of this;

https://youtu.be/ga3BQWoNPq0

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course, the writer is still only concerned with women's well being.

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