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India: proposed law to make sexual assault of boys under age of 12 punishable by death penalty, not just girls.

furchfur

April 27, 2018
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https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/centre-to-make-sexual-assault-of-boys-under-age-of-12-punishable-by-death-penalty/story-JRPmcyeu8pHgGupvJJICMI.html
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Title India: proposed law to make sexual assault of boys under age of 12 punishable by death penalty, not just girls.
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furchfur

Upvotes 297
Comments 24
Date April 27, 2018 1:47 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8fbrhv/india_proposed_law_to_make_sexual_assault_of_boys/
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Comments

[–]ck_1991 41 points42 points43 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Don't know if you know this but india also does not recognize female on male rape. They define rape through the act of penetration. Now the death penalty is something I get behind. Rapists should not be allowed to Rome free especially one who would hurt a child. Still there are plenty of false rape accusation to go around no matter the country when it concerns women.

[–]furchfur[S] 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well that is the same as the man hating UK.

[–]ck_1991 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or even Australia for that matter. These days everyone has gone bat shit crazy.

[–]Mencite 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you think they're going to hang female baby sitters who sexually grope boys?

[–]Mencite 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If its the same as the UK does that make it OK?

[–]Greg_W_Allan 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't know if you know this but india also does not recognize female on male rape.

They wanted to until feminists had a tantrum...

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms

Meanwhile among under eighteens it seems boys may be more likely victims anyway...

In the case of boys, although data in The National Study on Child Abuse, 2007 shows us that boys aged 0-18 are more likely to be sexually abused than girls, records show that reports of sexual offences against boys make up only 1 or 2% of cases.

https://blogs.unicef.org/blog/womens-day-india-kushi/

In addition more than one 12 -13 year old boy has been arrested in the past year or so because young - 18yo - women gave birth.

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2017/03/27/indian-police-charge-12-year-old-with-rape-for-getting-an-18-year-old-girl-pregnant/

[–]Fuckoff555 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It will be interesting to see if this law will be passed or if people and especially feminists there will be against it. They were against making rape laws gender neutral in the past after all.

[–]ck_1991 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would feminist be against it, this is their dream come true. India does not recognize female on male rape. Also false rape, domestic violence and dowry allegations run rampant in today's India. Which is not to say Real victims of those crimes don't exist but it does show women no matter what country are not bothered with using law and policy designed to protect them, as a weapon.

[–]andejoh 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would feminist be against it

Because the WDC didn't make it gender neutral in the beginning. They didn't realize their "mistake" if it was a mistake and act to correct it. They're moving to correct it because they had to amend a different law, which was gender neutral and so are essentially being forced to amend it.

[–]thrway_1000 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Since in India women can't commit rape under the law because feminists fought to keep it gendered that means jack shit. Plus, the state killing people isn't justice.

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[–]Luchadorgreen 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Plus, the state killing people isn't justice.

This. Considering how many times people have been falsely convicted of sexually assaulting a child based on the child misremembering or being coached to lie by another adult, this is pretty scary.

[–]Mencite 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Do you think they're going to hang female baby sitters who sexually grope boys?

[–]hipstertuna22 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Wait, that happens? Isn't it the teacher that gropes the boys and sleeps with them?

[–]Mencite 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well it looks like it is up to me to figure out what's going on in your brain.
So you believe its the teacher that gropes boys and sleeps with them. So you believe that the fact that the teacher gropes boys and sleeps with them means that female baby sitters don't sexually assault young boys.

Why should one mean the other can't happen?

[–]hipstertuna22 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've just never seen that happen before, not that I think it can't possibly happen.

[–]Mencite 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You've no idea how think your responses are. Presumably you've never seen a woman raped either but that doesn't stop you believing its a serious issue.

You don't hear about boys being sexually assaulted by women as society doesn't believe sex assaults by women are an important issue and women censor these discussion.

[–]Mencite 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for your question? But can you formulate your question properly its not up to me to figure out what's going on in your brain.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It resulted in an anomaly where the same crime committed against a girl and a boy is treated differently. The ordinance that was brought in to punish those raping girls less than 12 years contradicts the spirit of POCSO, which is gender-neutral

Yes, exactly. I'm glad they decided to amend the situation. Now I only hope that it applies to women who rape boys as well as men who rape boys

[–]Wisemanner 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Now I only hope that it applies to women who rape boys ..."

It won't. As has been said above, in India only males can rape.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it is meant to be "anyone" who rapes anyone under 12. Women would be subject to this for anyone under 12

[–]Male_Positive 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hard to prove it. Not usually any witnesses. Who would rat out their abuser if they knew it was death penalty? You would have to be filled with hate. No normal person would point the finger knowing it was death penalty.

[–]YuenHsiaoTieng 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone who thinks expanding the death penalty is progress is sick.

[–]autotldr -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)


Less than a week after the Criminal Law ordinance, 2018 - which provides for death penalty for those convicted of raping a girl below 12 years - was promulgated, the Union women and child development ministry is set to move the Cabinet seeking approval for the same punishment for those guilty of sexually abusing young boys of the same age, two senior government officials familiar with the matter said.

It also changed Section 42 of the Protection of Children from Sexual Offence Act, a special legislation enacted in 2012 to address sexual offences committed against those below 18 years of age, to say that newly amended IPC section would apply to children below 12 years of age.

Sections 4, 5 and 6 deal with aggravated penetrative sexual assault on children under 18 years, which is currently punishable with up to 10 years in jail, extendable to life imprisonment, under the POCSO Act,.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: ordinance#1 Law#2 years#3 rape#4 boy#5

[–]andejoh -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It looks like another of those feminists helped men or boys, but really didn't thing. Boys were protected despite feminism. It seems the WCD created a law intended and only protecting girls, but because they had to change another law that was gender neutral, it forces them to change their proposal to protect boys as well. In short the law will protect boys despite feminism best efforts to dent them protection.

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