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Top judge calls for overhaul of marriage law and says it’s risible that men must pay ex-wives for life. I am cynical and I suspect that this is only now an issue because some women are paying ex-husbands for life.

furchfur

March 22, 2018
147 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5529851/Top-judge-says-risible-men-pay-ex-wives-life.html
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Title Top judge calls for overhaul of marriage law and says it’s risible that men must pay ex-wives for life. I am cynical and I suspect that this is only now an issue because some women are paying ex-husbands for life.
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furchfur

Upvotes 147
Comments 29
Date March 22, 2018 8:22 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/869xle/top_judge_calls_for_overhaul_of_marriage_law_and/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/top-judge-calls-for-overhaul-of-marriage-law-and.903954
https://theredarchive.com/post/903954
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Comments

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

He wants alimony for Co habitation.

[–]furchfur[S] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Ye I read that as well. Basically he wants to do away with marriage completely.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Not do away with it - more like force it on people whether they want it or not. He's trying to take away one of the last options men have to avoid becoming a slave to someone else whilst still having a relationship with a woman. If men can't even live with a woman without becoming legally beholden to her, they'll just ignore them completely.

[–]Mens-Advocate 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Palimony has already given a woman a man's house just for living with him.

[–]The__Tren__Train -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

link?

[–]The__Tren__Train 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

it's simple, just do booty calls (after getting snipped).

it's funny really... in a sad and dark kinda way.. women keep demanding more and more power, and it's just going to end up hurting them in the long run.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not sure if booty calls will even be legal, at some point.

Look at how SJWs are trying to get sex doll brothels banned in France. Acts that literally don't even involve other people are viable targets, because they feel entitled to forcibly prescribe their own conception of morality onto other people. If they find booty calls distasteful some day, they'll feel fully justified in trying to criminalise them for others. They're basically modern day puritans with moral outrages.

[–]The__Tren__Train 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

true.. but money will always win in the end..

those companies producing porn, sex dolls, whatever... those are large companies that will only become bigger.. and they will lobby (buy) politicians.. doesn't matter what feminists want

[–]mcavvacm 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Either that or take quite a long time to live together.

Would be terrible for housing as places won't free up as readily anymore.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thing is, power is the potential to do something, not the exercising of that potential. Most people take issue with others having power over them, whether they exercise it or not. If someone followed you everywhere with a gun held to your head, you might be bothered even if you knew they'd never choose to pull the trigger. Because your fate becomes contingent on their choice - not yours.

So, while I'd certainly say that choosing your partner more carefully is a good idea, it doesn't fix the underlying issue that someone else should never have that level of state-mandated power over you.

[–]mcavvacm 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I agree with you, no doubt about that.

[–]furchfur[S] 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I would not advise a man to get married in a western society. Society and the judiciary are totally stacked against you. You are in no way signing up to equal treatment by the law and equal protection from the law. At the moment just do not do it.

[–]The__Tren__Train 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I advise all my female friends to get married.

I advise all my male friends to not get married.

I smile in my sleep

[–]NecroHexr 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

MGTOW is making more and more sense.

[–]A_confusedlover 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And that's an issue, as much as I'd like to think mgtow is favourable I'm reminded that I too have emotional desires, its just sad that mgtow is the solution

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's better than having your wages garnished all the way to Mom's basement.

[–]methylotroph 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Dude, have you seen marriage in eastern society? In Japan it is traditional that the wife controls ALL the money: the husband comes home, gives her the pay check and she gives him an "allowance".

Marriage is just manifest the human instinct of women to trade sex for protection and resources of a man. It has always been a horrible deal and has been everywhere. What do you think a Saudi man with his 4 wives is required to do? Out thats right, EVERYTHING! She can't drive (until just this year) she can't even walk outside without a male escort, she can't work, he has to care for her like a child, and god forbid you take off that burka and find out she fugly, too late! Oh but they are submissive and don't talk back, ok so they are quite parasites as opposed to nagging harpy parasites, big improvement /s. In fact I would say that is a stereotype: they must nag, they must have a way to manipulate their host/man. The yonomomo tribes in the amazon, beat their wives regularly and yet these women still come out calling their husbands unmanly unless they risk life and limb and raid the neighboring tribe!

[–]The__Tren__Train 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

'eastern' and 'western' are more about societal ideologies than they are about geographic location.

as for middle eastern men, I would imagine the benefits to having multiple wives must outweigh the costs... or else they wouldn't have more than one wife

[–]methylotroph 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For middle eastern men, porn, masturbation, any sexual release is highly regulated by theocratic law, there are odd exceptions like legal little boys to fucking, goat fucking... anyways to have sex with human women, you MUST get married, and thus if you have the money you can afford several women to have sex with. Although that means poorer middle eastern men get nothing but goats and little boys. In short marriage is the only way they get to have sex.

In our society today where sex with women comes cheaply off tinder, marriage has no value.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In short marriage is the only way they get to have sex.

Well there's always suicide bombing, and all those virgins.

[–]Splatriarchy 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know marriage is fucked because it is based on religion but backed by the law and government. Two of the most evil fucked up entities in our world is religion and government.

[–]xNOM 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your cynicism is justified. This is how gynocentrism works.

[–]duffelbagninja 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OT (and serious): what is the difference between risible and laughable?

Risible is a word that I am not overly familiar with, and a quick google showed that it was synonymous with laughable. Although I think that I am missing a subtly. Any help?

[–]McGauth925 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So long as they apply this thinking to everybody, men will do better than they are now. I assume more men are supporting women than vice versa.

[–]shit-zen-giggles -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I am cynical and I suspect that this is only now an issue because some women are paying ex-husbands for life.

I agree with you. Women don't want equality. That's just a smokescreen they use while they are in the minority position.

As soon as they have a majority position they turn into full scale totalitarians.

[–]Pillowed321 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women don't want equality. That's just a smokescreen they use while they are in the minority position.

Did you even read the article? The judge is a man. And he specifically talked about men supporting their ex-wives for life. This is exactly what MRAs have been talking about for years but you and /u/furchfur spend so much time on the internet that you're just looking for an excuse to feel like everybody is out to get you, even somebody who is just parroting what anti-feminist MRAs have always said. Get out of the house sometime.

[–]shit-zen-giggles 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've read the article my friend :-)

My statement was not meant as a direct reaction to this article, but a comment on the more general sentiment that is prevalent in society.

Try: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=manimony and watch some.

cheers

[–]Pillowed321 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's still an ignorant statement to make. Plenty of women want equality and we have female MRAs fighting for alimony reform.

[–]shit-zen-giggles 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, I'm not perfect. ^ ^

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