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UK: What gives you the right to touch me? More anti male crap from the BBC. The Fawcett Society said misogyny, and contempt for women, should be classified as a hate crime. It makes one worry what would happen if Labour ever get back in.

furchfur

January 26, 2018
51 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42806224
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Title UK: What gives you the right to touch me? More anti male crap from the BBC. The Fawcett Society said misogyny, and contempt for women, should be classified as a hate crime. It makes one worry what would happen if Labour ever get back in.
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furchfur

Upvotes 51
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Date January 26, 2018 1:20 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]Mr_MRAnarchist 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It really makes you wonder what would happen if they actually got their way. Lots more men just completely avoiding women, working and society in general...

[–]rmbarnes 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

just completely avoiding women, working and society in general...

British women, British working and British society. I'm starting to work on generating location independent income. I don't think I'll be able to stay in Britain all that much longer.

[–]Mr_MRAnarchist 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, don't fucking come to Canada.... It's just going the same place in a few years.

[–]rmbarnes 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Eastern Europe.

[–]furchfur[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Greece

[–]rmbarnes 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This really worries me. They mention unwanted sexual advances. The thing is, as a man, most of my sexual advances will be unwanted, that's just the way it works. Now, if I knew they were unwanted before making them, then I wouldn't bother making them in the first place, what would be the point? This is how mating works: the man (usually) makes a sexual advance of some sort (can just start with a compliment), and either gets accepted (wanted) and proceeds or rejected (unwanted) and he gives up. Criminalizing this would effectively be criminalizing men for being the proactive sex when it comes to mating.

Do unwanted sexual advances make women uncomfortable? Yes, I'm sure. Do people have the right to always be comfortable? Nope. You'll be uncomfortable sometimes in life. Just like men also feel uncomfortable making these advances.

[–]TurboSledge 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Spot on. It’s seems to me that society wants to completely erase males off the planet, even though we are the ones that have pushed the human race as far as it has come, through uncomfortableness, blood, sweat and tears.

Maybe the females will find a better way on their own. But they will never have the guts to risk death when I comes to discovering something about the planet, or space, or constructing some form of architecture that men have dedicated their life to.

[–]PersephoneHazard 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Plenty of women have risked - and indeed found - death in those arenas, though.

  • The planet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart
  • Space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christa_McAuliffe
  • Architecture: Well, alright, I can't think off the top of my head of a female architect who died in the line of duty (as it were), but I can think of one from the 17th century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plautilla_Bricci

[–]WikiTextBot 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amelia Earhart

Amelia Mary Earhart (, born July 24, 1897; disappeared July 2, 1937) was an American aviation pioneer and author. Earhart was the first female aviator to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean. She received the U.S. Distinguished Flying Cross for this accomplishment. She set many other records, wrote best-selling books about her flying experiences and was instrumental in the formation of The Ninety-Nines, an organization for female pilots.


Christa McAuliffe

Sharon Christa McAuliffe (born Sharon Christa Corrigan; September 2, 1948 – January 28, 1986) was an American teacher from Concord, New Hampshire, and was one of the seven crew members killed in the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster.

She received her bachelor's degree in education and history from Framingham State College in 1970, and also a master's in education supervision and administration from Bowie State University in 1978. She took a teaching position as a social studies teacher at Concord High School in New Hampshire in 1983.

In 1985, she was selected from more than 11,000 applicants to participate in the NASA Teacher in Space Project and was scheduled to become the first teacher in space.


Plautilla Bricci

Plautilla Bricci (or Plautilla Brizio; 1616-1690; fl. 1650-1664) was a 17th-century Roman practical architect and painter. Very little is known about her. She was associated with her brother, Basilio, in some architectural works in and near Rome, and was the only woman of her time in this profession.


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[–]Yndrd1984 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I certainly have a more optimistic view of women than /u/TurboSledge, but it is interesting that your examples for women who risked death consists of:

  • A randomly chosen teacher who died in an accident
  • An architect who's only known quality is that she was a woman (and didn't die from it)
  • A pilot who never did anything first, unless you add 'with a vagina' to it

Which one of these people would you have even heard of if they weren't women? Who was the second man to fly solo across the Atlantic?

[–]aokusman 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Any real men left in the UK? “The Fawcett Society also said misogyny, contempt for women, should be classified as a hate crime.” Scary.

[+]icandrive1551 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

So they want to make contempt a hate crime now?? How is that different than a thought crime?

[–]Wisemanner 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always remember that whatever concessions are made to them, it will never be enough.

[–]GreyTortoise 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Misogyny is a hate crime already if it is a driving force behind a crime. This is like shrieking for equal pay. It's there already, cut it out.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I believe, that in the UK, this is not actually the case. "Gender" is not a protected category, unlike race, religion, nationality, sexual orientation etc.

[–]GreyTortoise 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh, and I thought the U.K. was ahead on these things. Really it's not hard to label it a hate crime regardless. It might not already be in paper but if you state that your reason for brutalizing a woman is because "I don't like women and think they should be treated this way" then you'll certainly face a charge for hate crime.

[–]Mythandros 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I would agree to that hate crime garbage only if Misandry and hate against men was also against the law.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[–]_pulsar 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well that's better than it just being one way but I would never agree to it.

[–]Mythandros 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean... It's not a fair law no matter how evenly you slice it. So I don't think I would agree either, honestly.

[–]TheNextMilo 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women do this too, don’t focus on one.

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