The ugliest symbol of inequality in Finland is the conscription army for men. Now they are forcing the conscripted men to take part in HeForShe related education to "decrease violence against women". I'm angry and can just hope that this will turn even more men against elite's feminist ideology.

furchfur · 2017-09-21T04:55:41+00:00

It seems that women, who are volunteers and can even quit the military without sanctions, are not going to take part in the lessons. And women are according to most studies the more violent party in relationships. And the share of women who are afraid of domestic violence is well under one per cent.

I can imagine myself in a situation like that: first being forced to serve and then told that you shouldn't hit your female partners. "What the fuck, do they really think I don't know that?!" "Shouldn't we be learning how to kill enemies instead of listening to this Feminist propaganda that is based on lies and hatred?"

Very bad for the morale of men - whose grand grandfathers fought heroically during the WWII to protect the women and children, not to beat them up.

And this is done by the president whom I respected.

I'm done with voting unless I find a candidate who sees the world as it is outside the ideologies, feminism in particular - which in likelihood means that I'm done with voting for good.

HeForeverBleeds · 2017-09-21T05:32:11+00:00

That's the kind of patriarchal, misogynistic culture we live in: the privileged sex is the one that can be forced into war; the oppressed sex is the one that gets disproportionately more protection from violence /s

MasterZapple · 2017-09-21T05:56:42+00:00

Estonian parliament just ratified the Istanbul Convention. Needless to say, no one dared to go against it but one party (basically tradcons). And all 6 of them were labelled to be for womanbeating, naturally, regardless of what they said.

Good times, am I right?

merton1111 · 2017-09-21T08:23:16+00:00

We4us

feedmecarrots · 2017-09-21T08:39:15+00:00

I am sorry for Finland. Why do politicians sell out their men to curry favor with women? The men won't forget, but the women will in a day or two.

furchfur · 2017-09-21T09:09:12+00:00

The conscription of males only is blatant gender discrimination and amounts to slave labour. The European court ruled that countries are allowed to do it since it related to individual defence of a country which is not covered by the European court. Total cop out.

The countries in Europe that have conscription are: Switzerland, Ukraine, Austria, Denmark, Finland, Russia, Lithuania, Belarus, Greece (but it is easy to get out of).

spideyjiri · 2017-09-21T23:35:19+00:00

I'm a lurker to this sub, never posted here before but I gotta say, as a Finnish man the conscription here is a bit of a joke really.

I got a free pass just for being a lard-ass, my friend got the same for minor asthma and a guy I know didn't go because he had wide feet(?), it's still total bullshit that we're supposedly gender equal but this shit still only applies to men.

2017-09-21T13:18:12+00:00

Europe is showing once again that its residents' arrogance has no basis.

MagicTampon · 2017-09-21T14:38:20+00:00

Use archive.is, nimwit!

https://archive.fo/bxMYp

Rethgil · 2017-09-21T21:51:39+00:00

So train men to kill other men to protect women but tell them they obviously can't control themselves as men towards women?

Fuuuuuuuck. No wonder so many men are confused and have had enough.

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