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Why are some feminists siding with Donald Trump on sexual assault policy?

omegaphallic

September 17, 2017

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https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/09/14/surprisingly-some-feminist-lawyers-side-with-trump-and-devos-campus-assault-policy/ArigBzO86tERWpDW17DbTI/amp.html

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Title	Why are some feminists siding with Donald Trump on sexual assault policy?
Author	omegaphallic
Upvotes	11
Comments	27
Date	September 17, 2017 4:40 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/70okrl/why_are_some_feminists_siding_with_donald_trump/
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[–]RapeMatters 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It depends on what the types of feminists we're talking about. There maybe for instance, feminists amongst the ranks of the professors as we're seeing who are more like Christina Hoff Sommers where they've been deeply concerned over time at the way men and boys are being treated by other feminists but haven't been able to speak out because the government has always been against them.

You could also make the case that the professional activists and so on are simply seeing the obvious, like with Laci Green and even Anita Sarkeesian, they have been having dissenting thoughts now and I think it is because the tide is finally turning. They made their money now and they don't want to lose it and they've realised that social justice is going to get the lot of them into a huge amount of trouble if they don't behave.

The only way we'll know for sure what their intentions are is by checking out the individual history they have, if for instance they've been frequently involved in bullshit gender studies courses and things like that then they could well be trying to screw with the process somehow or they've simply decided to abandon everything to save themselves.

It's pretty much going as I predicted awhile ago, the professional activists are going to be the first ones. The fanatics will be the last or they'll go down believing this bullshit and then with their influence gone the university students in particular will finally have to confront different opinions from their own.

[–]Tedesche 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Tedesche 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Citation? Or is this just your opinion?

Read virtually any psychology 101 textbook. Skip to the chapter on cognitive biases.

There is absolutely nothing rational about believing in patriarchy (tm) as an oppressive force.

LOL, yes there is. Patriarchy absolutely can be an oppressive force. Take a trip to Saudi Arabia.

There is nothing rational about a group of people promoting the well being of females over males.

Correct, but not every feminist is as guilty of this as some. See, this is what I meant about complexity—seeing things in shades of grey, rather than black-and-white.

But I do appreciate that you had to attack me personally instead of addressing the points. Classic feminist.

The only point you made was "feminism is a hate movement," and I did address that. You're not being rational about this.

Oh, and check my comment history if you think I'm a feminist. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a feminist, LOL.

[–]AnotherDAM 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]AnotherDAM 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL, says the person who can't respond to all the points I made in a single comment with a single comment.

So, another personal attack. What difference could it possibly make? Were you in any way inconvenienced? Feminists like to pick at nits, keep quacking.

You're too angry, and like I said, irrational.

You haven't pointed out a single thing that was irrational (using, you know...logic instead of slurs) and calling someone angry just to try and get them off balance (not working BTW) is a well documented feminist technique. Do you waddle when you go down the street?

I hope you one day learn to see things in a more balanced light.

Classic projection here. And kind of like a mid westerner saying "God Bless You" when they really mean "Go Fuck Yourself".

You are not a very good troll, but I am sure if you practice you won't get better.

[–]AnotherDAM 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Rational people appreciate the complexities of social movements; you clearly do not.

Feminism is not so complex.

They fought for the vote yet allowed men to be drafted without the vote until the 26th Amendment - feminists like Emmeline Pankhurt even used White Feather campaigns to shame draftees who returned safely.

They routinely fight against equality, the push "Patriarchy theory" which excludes male victims and female perpetrators.

Feminism is a hate movement, it's a "dirty word" for a reason. Most women and most men don't support it, I suppose you think 'most people don't appreciate the complexities of social movements'?

How about this: Feminism is a toxic ideology one that's becoming less and less popular, one that is known for bigotry (man-hating in particular) due to the actions it takes (and the actions on which it is judged).

No amount of sticking your head up your posterior will erase that.

Feminism is a hate movement, standing for bi-directional equality in any way (excusing lip service) violates the tenants of feminism.

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