Getting blamed for radicalization

Lethn · 2017-08-18T16:45:16+00:00

They won't listen, no matter what, you're supposed to just roll over and accept their slander. The best thing you can do is never apologise to them and explain things to people who will actually listen. Lauren Southern actually made a video and she understands this perfectly. It doesn't matter if you apologise to these people, they'll never forgive you and just want to wipe you from existence, this is why I call them ideological fanatics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi9c5YCYJkI&t=167s

It is an absolute mistake to pander to social justice warriors, don't respond to their shaming tactics.

grasshopa · 2017-08-18T17:01:21+00:00

So? Let them act crazy.

The reaction to Cassie Jaye and James Damore by the media does more to help than hinder. Think about it; if someone tells you X is the devil, and then you view X and it's benign, how likely are you to listen to that person's opinion again? Same thing is happening with the media.

And those are only the most extreme, latest, examples.

ExpendableOne · 2017-08-18T20:16:32+00:00

The men's rights movement has never been about hurting or repressing women, but that has never stopped anyone from trying to portray the movement as such anyway.

bufedad · 2017-08-18T17:52:02+00:00

No. Seriously, no. We're not wasting time proving we're not nazi's. There's no point. The people accusing us of being nazi's need us to be nazi's so regardless of the truth, we're going to be Nazi's.

duruga · 2017-08-18T18:19:37+00:00

It does not matter what we do, we will get accused of everything. Feminist have been doing this since the start. The new sound byte is this "young men radicalization".

There is no young men radicalization. This is what they are calling to men rejecting feminism, which is the noble and conscious thing to do.

Feminism is a big business. A lot of people live off it. If they lose mindshare they will lose influence and then money. This is what we are up against. That's why no matter what we do they will keep throwing false accusations and false statistics like they have been doing since the start. Its not an intellectual battle, its about money for them.

MRA should reject violence against women, like has been done since the start, because its the right thing to do. But there is no point in reacting to their last smear tactic. Just keep doing the same.

uhh__Alex · 2017-08-18T16:04:42+00:00

True rights activists stand for equal rights among all. Men's rights is fighting back against unjustified fine to men. Men's rights does not condone anyone else being unjustly accused or sentenced.

Isn't that how it is?

kartu3 · 2017-08-18T18:59:37+00:00

What? I'm reading this subreddit regularly but haven't seen a single post calling for violence against any gender.

If the dude who killed protester indeed started as MRA, this will hit movement badly.

Bit if it is made up BS, it needs to be brought up.

Imnotmrabut · 2017-08-18T17:30:44+00:00

I'm amused that so many Amateur Moral Entrepreneurs are stoking Moral Panic and they think everyone is so stupid they won't spot it.

The Alt-Media going Alt-Bonkers and Showing Alt-Contempt for Alt-Everyone ..... time to Alt Up!

Mr_MRAnarchist · 2017-08-18T17:32:56+00:00

And the men who just want equality are chanted at for being bigots, racists, and homophobes and anti trans.... fuck them. You can't control what nutjobs think.

Clockw0rk · 2017-08-18T22:04:16+00:00

We are being held responsible for the radicalization of young men in the USA.

Wrong. We are being accused of radicalization by far left pundits who refuse to acknowledge the truth that their anti-"straight white male" rhetoric has backfired tremendously and is rapidly pushing more men towards Men's Rights in the centrist spectrum and other further right groups in response.

Let's take a moment to separate ourselves from any toxic woman-hating bullshit.

We do not engage in woman-hating bullshit. We engage in advocacy for Men's Rights, primarily when it concerns discriminatory practices in family courts, reproductive rights, criminal sentencing, media bias, and genital mutilation. We also engage in critical, and justified, discussions of harmful ideologies which specifically denigrate, abuse, and harm men.

It's a good time for us to draw a distinct line between true MRA activists, and those who use that label to try and justify hurting or repressing women in any form.

You've got it backwards, chum. Men's Rights Activists do not adopt the MRA label to justify harming or repressing women. Feminists, Social Justice Warriors, and other Far Left affiliates falsely accuse MRAs of these activities in order to demonize and undermine us.

Folks will try to lump us in with white nationalists and the like, we can't let that happen.

You really have no control over what people will say about you. All you can do is let evidence speak for itself. You can't force people to be interested in the truth. The truth exists whether they like it or not.

Speak out against hate.

I hate virtue signalling. I'm Egalitarian. Fuck all supremacists.

TheRavenousRabbit · 2017-08-18T20:40:26+00:00

Doesn't matter or not. We have already spoken out against pointless bigotry in the past, over and over again. That is why we're Men's Right's Advocates/Activists. we are the other, however. No matter how much we apologize, flagellate and self police we will always be accused of this - as long as we hold our opinions.

ThePigmanAgain · 2017-08-19T02:07:30+00:00

Haters gonna hate. No matter what we say, the Alt Left will continue to tar us as scum.

Frankly_George · 2017-08-18T22:04:51+00:00

rainman206 posted:

Hello all,

We are being held responsible for the radicalization of young men in the USA. Let's take a moment to separate ourselves from any toxic woman-hating bullshit.

It's a good time for us to draw a distinct line between true MRA activists, and those who use that label to try and justify hurting or repressing women in any form.

Folks will try to lump us in with white nationalists and the like, we can't let that happen.

Speak out against hate.

You seem concerned friend...

ee4m · 2017-08-18T16:38:15+00:00

Its right libertarianism and the alt right that's the entry to far right radicalism.

Title	Getting blamed for radicalization
Author	rainman206
Upvotes	22
Comments	25
Date	August 18, 2017 4:02 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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