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Feminist filmmaker Cassie Jaye said she set out to expose the misogyny of the Men's Rights Movement, but walked away with a different documentary.

Imnotmrabut

August 17, 2017
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/r/MensRights
http://nebraska.tv/news/local/filmmaker-describes-experience-documenting-mens-rights-movement
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Title Feminist filmmaker Cassie Jaye said she set out to expose the misogyny of the Men's Rights Movement, but walked away with a different documentary.
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Imnotmrabut

Upvotes 499
Comments 32
Date August 17, 2017 9:08 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6u8rz5/feminist_filmmaker_cassie_jaye_said_she_set_out/
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Comments

[–]JestyerAverageJoe 56 points57 points58 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice to see some impartial coverage instead of another hack-job interview.

[+]viper12a1a1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

honestly, the best part of the documentary was watching the absurd feminist arguments clash with these level headed, really caring guys who just want to help men that they see need help.

[–]GlassTwiceTooBig 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

That's what I was most concerned with in the movie. There was never any dialogue between the feminist representatives and the MRAs, so they never really got to pose one point against another. It makes it too easy to dismiss Jaye's choice of interviewees as cherrypicked.

[–]LateralThinker13 30 points31 points32 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Yeah... except the feminists who were willing to talk, were significant figures and STILL unreasonable. By inference, the rest would have been worse.

[–]GlassTwiceTooBig 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't expecting much from them, but I got the distinct impression that they hadn't seen the interviews that Jaye had had with MRAs, and it almost seemed as if they were writing her off. Even by feminist standards, they seemed pretty ill-prepared for the interviews, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were unhappy with the context in which their own interviews were shown in the documentary, and not just because of the subject matter. It made them sound stupid in a way that feminists don't usually sound stupid.

[–]LateralThinker13 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They were confident in their arrogance. They hold beliefs that they feel are universal and undeniable, obvious and not to be questioned. When surprised by someone they can't dismiss or blow off, they flounder.

They thought that it would be a puff piece, or one more 'internet hate troll'. They thought they were getting Paul Elam. Instead they got a cute little blonde with good questions, a pleasant demeanor, and an honest passion for truth. They were not prepared for that - could not be.

[–]Joemanji84 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah one of my biggest concerns about the film that the feminists had been deliberately portrayed to look bad. I mean, I guess they did say those things but it was a little on the nose.

[–]JestyerAverageJoe 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

one of my biggest concerns about the film that the feminists had been deliberately portrayed to look bad

Having seen the extended footage from her Patreon, it would be more accurate to say that she put the feminists in a favorable light.

They said ugly things. That's their own doing.

[–]Joemanji84 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is the 9 minute extended interview with Katherine Spillar now on YouTube, is it that one? Haven't watched it yet. Or are there more?

[–]JestyerAverageJoe 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are a few. She's releasing one a week, and then they go public a little while later.

My overarching point, though, was that if the feminists appear to be cast in a bad light, it's because they cast themselves that way.

[–]Themightysavage 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If there are links to the extended footage, Id like to see them.

[–]JestyerAverageJoe 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right here. (She gave her career to speak the truth about men's rights. We owe her $5.) They go public over here afterwards.

[–]GlassTwiceTooBig 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it was just a side effect of her original approach to the documentary. It wasn't supposed to be a documentary about MRAs being right, and feminists being wrong, it was just supposed to be a documentary about MRAs. If it had been from the point of view of an MRA, it probably would have juxtaposed each side's viewpoints, and whoever represented feminism would have fallen by the wayside sheerly by their own words. Giving the feminist rep a fighting chance would only have made the MRA side stronger. By brushing off Jaye and the men's rights movement just made them seem weaker in TRP.

[–]Blutarg 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, when you present them honestly and impartially they do look bad. It's their own fault.

[–]viper12a1a 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Robust Feminist Ideas™

[–]rocko7927 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow, somebody that will actually listen to the opposing sides story without getting into a fight and then actually changing what they believe in based on the facts presented to them.
Truly a rare sight in todays USA

[–]LateralThinker13 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sadly true.

[–]n0solace 39 points40 points41 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It does show true character to be able to change your mind about deeply entrenched indoctrination like feminism

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the rare case of... Well... Somebody not listening only to their confirmation bias.

[–]explodingwombat 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think regardless of how the film is executed atleast we can say it's a step in the right direction for our one sided political ideological society

[–]BlueOrange22 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People have a negative perception of the MRM because they have a misconception about the MRM. The more people realize what we're actually about, the more public support we will have.

This documentary is a great thing, and props to Cassie for being open minded and fair. She's now taking lots of criticism and hate for doing the right thing, and she deserves our gratitude for sure.

[–]keonkla 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

AAh glad to see the red pill movie is making its rounds. Finally glad to see men and boys issues being discussed, Glad to see the Mrm kicking ass now :).

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

no worries for her next film she will be right here asking for fools to part ways with their money.

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Please support that claim.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

simple, she raised money for her last movie by lobbing mens groups. what makes you think she won't go to the same watering hole? hell lacey green is on the same shit with "taking the red pill" she is after that money.

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

what makes you think she won't

Why do you project your own thoughts onto me? I said nothing about what I think yet there you go assuming I think she won't do something

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

user name fits

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Hurr durr!!!!!

I ask a simple question and you start making assumptions and putting words in my mouth. I ask why you're doing that and you feebly attempt to insult me.

Sorry, you failed miserably. LOL

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

so i say that your screen name fits (the one you picked) and now it is an insult? why not just go back to your safe space and get your feelz in check ok cupcake.

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No, that's you lying again by trying to put words in my mouth once again. I said you attempted to insult me by using it. I never said it's an insult.

"Feels, safe space, cupcake" Yeah, you failed spectacularly this time. I like how you're so pathetic that you have nothing more to you, no substance or anything insightful or useful, just a series of words popular among the current crop of internet morons. "Nurr! Faggot snowflake cuck!!" Hahahahahaha

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

i'm willing to bet you are a very very very ugly woman who seek the approval of strong men even at the cost at what little self esteem you have left. rejection happens so often to you that it has become a form of your self validation. but you must have deep seeded issues about your father sexually.

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

  1. LMAO. Sad attempt but hilarious that I struck a nerve enough to get you to try, haha

  2. It's "seated," not "seeded." Clearly you're a VERY smart fella

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