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Oregon High School Teacher that wrote "Rape Culture" essay buckles under pressure to retract and apologize to all the womyns

elite_shitposter

May 9, 2017
44 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2017/05/portland_teacher_who_denied_ra.html
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Title Oregon High School Teacher that wrote "Rape Culture" essay buckles under pressure to retract and apologize to all the womyns
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elite_shitposter

Upvotes 44
Comments 23
Date May 9, 2017 9:28 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6a8f3m/oregon_high_school_teacher_that_wrote_rape/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/oregon-high-school-teacher-that-wrote-rape-culture.923066
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[–]omegaphallic 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They can't win the argument with the strength of their aurguements so they will bully someone into agreeing.

[–]Imnotmrabut 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's Classic Apex Fallacy Used To Skewer And Destroy.

Did the experience reported by this one person in any way typify the experience of all students at the school.

What about the male students?
"of 43 percent of high school boys and young college men reported they had an unwanted sexual experience and of those, 95 percent said a female acquaintance was the aggressor"
Study Press Release - Associated Press
“Sexual Coercion Context and Psychosocial Correlates Among Diverse Males,” Bryana H. French, PhD, Jasmine D. Tilghman, MEd, and Dominique A. Malebranche, BS, University of Missouri; Psychology of Men & Masculinity; online March, 2014.

If the Grant High School, Oregon, is going to be forced to be controlled under the thrall of The Cult Of Rape Culture - they need to be forced to address the female sexual assault and abuse of male students too.

[–]SantaOrange 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This is starting to resemble those show trials in the Soviet Union.

The heretic has repented. Congratulations feminists on another scalp.

I went from having a lot of respect for this guy to having very little. While I sympathize with his plight at being the latest target of the SJW mob, he should know by now that showing weakness to feminists only compounds their hate. An apology to a feminist is like blood to a shark. The first comment on the article says it all: it attacks him for being a "privileged white male." Even AFTER the poor sap apologized.

[–]Imnotmrabut 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

US Government Data Debunks The 1 in 4 Myth - It's 1 in 163
This report uses the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) to compare the rape and sexual assault victimization of female college students and nonstudents. For the period 1995–2013
The rate of rape and sexual assault was 1.2 times higher for nonstudents (7.6 per 1,000) than for students (6.1 per 1,000).
Some Basic Math:
To achieve the 1 in 4 claims would require 250 per 1,000
To achieve the 1 in 5 claims would require 200 per 1,000
Sinozich, Sofi, and Lynn Langton. "Rape and sexual assault victimization among college-age females, 1995–2013." Report NCJ248471. Washington, DC: US Department of Justice. Bureau of Justice Statistics (2014).

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So Feminists have the power to do that, yet they're "the resistance"?

Look, in the entirety of the west, you are without a doubt the status quo. Looking at you people with clear glasses is now the anti-culture. People who are hard-left socially are now despised by that same political wing.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alternative headline -- "Man Narrowly Avoids Gulag."

[–]MagicTampon 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously, his retraction / apoiogy was under duress from the matriarchal system.

We all know he didn't mean it.

More men like this, please.

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thus showing where the power lies.

[–]bobby_bobkinson -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

Can someone please show to me that there is in fact no rape culture? I agree with this subreddit on so many issues but I can't find the evidence to support it on this one.

Genuine response please, I watched the red pill and there wasn't as much on this issue as I had hoped there would be.

This isn't a fucking feminist subreddit so I would hope that here we don't respond to questions with rhetoric and stupid jokes. Thanks.

Edit: I genuinely wanted to know more, I didn't agree there was a rape culture beforehand I just didn't have the facts and statistics to back that claim up. There are a few people here that have been really kind and educated me while some have just been quite rude.

[–]SantaOrange 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I will do so on condition that you first show me evidence that there is no Bigfoot or Lochness Monster.

[–]bobby_bobkinson -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't help me, please I want a genuine response.

[+]keyboardWorrier points 9 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

That actually was a genuine response. If you declare that something exists, the onus is on you to prove that it exists, not the other way around.

What if I believe there's a giant spaghetti monster orbiting the planet, and I won't change my mind until you disprove it. Don't you see how backwards that is?

Furthermore the whole idea of a "rape culture" is no nebulous and vague that nobody can ever fully prove or disprove it. The whole concept of culture is inherently subjective, and varies across a population. This vagueness is quite deliberate on the part of the feminists propagating the idea, because they never want to reveal their true goals.

Can you even define a "rape culture"? What does it mean? If you can't describe it clearly and concisely (with evidence) why should anyone even try to disprove it? It would make as much sense as asking you to disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[–]bobby_bobkinson 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks, this was really helpful :)

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Hit the nail on the head. Respect. No one even knows what the fuck it means.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same goes for Religion. Someone like Sargon of Akkad I have extreme respect for, because he sees the truth of rape culture but doesn't then turn around and start preaching about God.

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, the onus is on you to prove that it does exist.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

You're asking to prove a negative, which is notoriously difficult, next to impossible. Prove, for instance, there isn't a tea cup in orbit between Jupiter and Saturn.

Sure, it's technically possible to prove, but it's remarkably difficult to do.

To a lesser extent, same thing applies here. However, what we can do is look at a few statistics...I'm NOT going to go crazy about it, but I will give you a few numbers that, if you're being honest with yourself, will prompt you to question the accepted narrative;

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence - 321,500 people, nationwide, were sexually assaulted in 2015. Man/woman, young and old.

https://www.infoplease.com/women-numbers - In 2015 there were 12.5 million female students.

Let's assume that all 321,500 of those folks were college age females ( worst case scenario ). Instead of the more common 1 in 4 stat you might have heard ( 25% ), that would place the stat closer to 2.5% and remember; that's assuming all 321,500 people sexually assaulted were college females, which is obviously not the case.

With that one stat I've already undermined the notion of "rape culture" ( although not disproven as we've already established would be ridiculously difficult ).

Your turn; prove there's a rape culture.

Point of fact, there's more data to support the notion that there's a "Rape Allegation Culture", especially on college campuses.

[–]bobby_bobkinson 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for the response :)

[–]SantaOrange 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty refreshing to see someone admit error rather than create endless fallacies to protect a fallacy. Really all we're saying here is that men are not psycho rapists. A few nuts do not a gender theory make. The stats support our view.

[–]bobby_bobkinson 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't think there was a rape culture in the first place I just didn't have the facts to back that theory up

[–]IamaspyAMNothing 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The burden of proof is on you to prove there's a rape culture.

But just think of it this way: is rape celebrated in the US? Is it encouraged? Are people accused of it considered good people? Do we charge the victim with a crime but not the perpetrator?

The only time rape is celebrated is when it happens to "bad people" like prisoners. Which is an actual rape culture, because prisoners use rape as a tool of control and power. It's blatantly obvious

[–]Imnotmrabut -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So he's abused emotionally and not intellectually.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't even bear to watch this. So some women sent him some emails claiming they were raped or sexually abused. How many went to the police? ZERO I would imagine.

How could a man sink so low? It's shameful.

“Babylon in all its desolation is a sight not so awful as that of the human mind in ruins.”

― Scrope Davies

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