I am not a "disgrace to women" because I don't support the women's march.

Dnile1000BC · 2017-01-22T09:27:55+00:00

You are rare kind of a person and getting rarer by the day sadly.

theoretikos · 2017-01-24T04:03:10+00:00

https://medium.com/@dinachka82/about-your-poem-1f26a7585a6f#.wl18swft4 Say thank you. Say thank you to the women who gave you a voice. Say thank you to the women who were arrested and imprisoned and beaten and gassed for you to have a voice. Say thank you to the women who refused to back down, to the women who fought tirelessly to give you a voice. Say thank you to the women who put their lives on hold, who –lucky for you — did not have “better things to do” than to march and protest and rally for your voice. So you don’t feel like a “second class citizen.” So you get to feel “equal.”

Thank Susan B. Anthony and Alice Paul for your right to vote.

Thank Elizabeth Stanton for your right to work.

Thank Maud Wood Park for your prenatal care and your identity outside of your husband.

Thank Rose Schneiderman for your humane working conditions.

Thank Eleanor Roosevelt and Molly Dewson for your ability to work in politics and affect policy.

Thank Margaret Sanger for your legal birth control.

Thank Carol Downer for your reproductive healthcare rights.

Thank Sarah Muller for your equal education.

Thank Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Shannon Turner, Gloria Steinem, Zelda Kingoff Nordlinger, Rosa Parks, Angela Davis, Malika Saada Saar, Wagatwe Wanjuki, Ida B. Wells, Malala Yousafzai. Thank your mother, your grandmother, your great-grandmother who did not have half of the rights you have now.

You can make your own choices, speak and be heard, vote, work, control your body, defend yourself, defend your family, because of the women who marched. You did nothing to earn those rights. You were born into those rights. You did nothing, but you reap the benefits of women, strong women, women who fought misogyny and pushed through patriarchy and fought for you. And you sit on your pedestal, a pedestal you are fortunate enough to have, and type. A keyboard warrior. A fighter for complacency. An acceptor of what you were given. A denier of facts. Wrapped up in your delusion of equality.

You are not equal. Even if you feel like you are. You still make less than a man for doing the same work. You make less as a CEO, as an athlete, as an actress, as a doctor. You make less in government, in the tech industry, in healthcare.

You still don’t have full rights over your own body. Men are still debating over your uterus. Over your prenatal care. Over your choices.

You still have to pay taxes for your basic sanitary needs.

You still have to carry mace when walking alone at night. You still have to prove to the court why you were drunk on the night you were raped. You still have to justify your behavior when a man forces himself on you.

You still don’t have paid (or even unpaid) maternity leave. You still have to go back to work while your body is broken. While you silently suffer from postpartum depression.

You still have to fight to breastfeed in public. You still have to prove to other women it’s your right to do so. You still offend others with your breasts.

You are still objectified. You are still catcalled. You are still sexualized. You are still told you’re too skinny or you’re too fat. You’re still told you’re too old or too young. You’re applauded when you “age gracefully.” You’re still told men age “better.” You’re still told to dress like a lady. You are still judged on your outfit instead of what’s in your head. What brand bag you have still matters more than your college degree.

You are still being abused by your husband, by your boyfriend. You’re still being murdered by your partners. Being beaten by your soulmate.

You are still worse off if you are a woman of color, a gay woman, a transgender woman. You are still harassed, belittled, dehumanized.

Your daughters are still told they are beautiful before they are told they are smart. Your daughters are still told to behave even though “boys will be boys.” Your daughters are still told boys pull hair or pinch them because they like them.

You are not equal. Your daughters are not equal. You are still systemically oppressed.

Estonia allows parents to take up to three years of leave, fully paid for the first 435 days. United States has no policy requiring maternity leave.

Singapore’s women feel safe walking alone at night. American women do not.

New Zealand’s women have the smallest gender gap in wages, at 5.6%. United States’ pay gap is 20%.

Iceland has the highest number of women CEOs, at 44%. United States is at 4.0%.

The United States ranks at 45 for women’s equality. Behind Rwanda, Cuba, Philippines, Jamaica.

But I get it. You don’t want to admit it. You don’t want to be a victim. You think feminism is a dirty word. You think it’s not classy to fight for equality. You hate the word pussy. Unless of course you use it to call a man who isn’t up to your standard of manhood. You know the type of man that “allows” “his” woman to do whatever she damn well pleases. I get it. You believe feminists are emotional, irrational, unreasonable. Why aren’t women just satisfied with their lives, right? You get what you get and you don’t get upset, right?

I get it. You want to feel empowered. You don’t want to believe you’re oppressed. Because that would mean you are indeed a “second-class citizen.” You don’t want to feel like one. I get it. But don’t worry. I will walk for you. I will walk for your daughter. And your daughter’s daughter. And maybe you will still believe the world did not change. You will believe you’ve always had the rights you have today. And that’s okay. Because women who actually care and support other women don’t care what you think about them. They care about their future and the future of the women who come after them.

Open your eyes. Open them wide. Because I’m here to tell you, along with millions of other women that you are not equal. Our equality is an illusion. A feel-good sleight of hand. A trick of the mind. I’m sorry to tell you, but you are not equal. And neither are your daughters.

But don’t worry. We will walk for you. We will fight for you. We will stand up for you. And one day you will actually be equal, instead of just feeling like you are.

~ Dina Leygerman, 2017

Anagram64 · 2017-01-22T13:05:49+00:00

The worst thing a feminist did was to tell woman to think for them self. Some actually did.

Niniane_ · 2017-01-22T14:06:46+00:00

I have SO many friends, male and female, supporting these marches... I'm totally posting this on Facebook. It perfectly sums up how I feel. Thank you.

SilverHoard · 2017-01-22T09:30:06+00:00

Does anyone have the link to that facebook post?

Jessica0929 · 2017-01-22T15:05:57+00:00

THIS WAS WRITTEN BY SEIRRA PACREM. IT WAS HER ORIGINAL POST ON FACEBOOK NOT AT ALL WRITTEN BY LIZ. WHAT LOW CLASS TO CREDIT YOURSELF TO SOMEONE ELSE'S WORDS.

bigwillyb123 · 2017-01-22T11:29:02+00:00

Jesus Christ. I'm going to be downvoted to hell but whatever. You sound just as bad as those types that explode into FGM threads saying "B-B-B-BUT CIRCUMSCISION IS BAD TOO!"

Yes, we know it's bad. We know that around the world, women have shitty living situations compared to the US. But there are still problems in the US and women are not treated fairly in some aspects. So what do the two have to do with eachother? Not a ton. Trying to solve one problem doesn't dismiss the other problem, it paves the way for other problems to be addressed as there's less problems once obvious or domestic problems are solved.

It's like a doctor getting pissed at a car accident victim for wanting his broken arm fixed while he still has a broken leg. You know what would work better? If we focused on the problem of broken bones, and not the "problem" of which bones have to be set and let completely heal first. You can wear two casts.

I've been a part of this sub for a long time now, and while it may have started off with advocating for divorced fathers to spend time/get custody of children, women receiving unfair punishments compared to men, female-on-male domestic violence, male rape, and the false rape report crisis, it's fallen so far into a parody of itself that we're taken even LESS seriously as MRAs than we were 3 or 4 years ago. Rampant sexism, insults, debates and flipping shit about unimportant shit, and the attitude of "You can't put women first ever, men are ALWAYS more important and every issue that women face is a double sided coin that has to have a correlating male issue, or it's not important. That's how we stay equal" are all part of the reasons I'm leaving this sub. And before I get the "good riddance" comments, take a second to actually think about what you're fighting for, and what this sub actually wants. It's literally a reddit /r9k/ now.

This sub used to be something great, but this is the straw that breaks the camel's back. On a day where over 4 million PEOPLE have come together to protest a sexist, backwards new government leader, his plans to bring us back socially to the 50s, and ongoing declining societal progress in regards to women controlling their bodies, someone STILL has to bitch and whine about it because it's not focusing on men, so they make it just seem like a shitty movement by comparing it to things that have NOTHING to do with it.

That's the biggest problem with this fucking sub, and I'm done with it. We have this amazing ability here to recognize that there are many problems in the world, but demand that only certain ones be addressed, while shitting all over feminazis for doing the EXACT same thing. This is literally a feminazi sub of the male gender now.

Edit: All of this coming from a straight, white, middle-class 20-something man with a 9-5 job living in a progressive state. I'm almost a posterboy for MRAs, but now I refuse to use that label because of all the shit that this sub specifically has caused to be associated with it. I'll still advocate and protest for the right stuff, but I'm not gonna cry like everyone else when other problems are being addressed instead of my own for the moment.

Title	I am not a "disgrace to women" because I don't support the women's march.
Author	oldie101
Upvotes	110
Comments	25
Date	January 22, 2017 4:18 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5pf4i4/i_am_not_a_disgrace_to_women_because_i_dont/
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