Vogue says cleavage is ‘over’: ‘The t*ts will not be out for the lads’ - It’s partly down to a rise in “creepy” online comments, stylist Elizabeth Saltzman said

PowerWisdomCourage · 2016-11-02T17:26:35+00:00

Some of these people better get a hell of a lot more interesting then. Society's appreciation of the female body is all most of them have.

chorizobisque · 2016-11-02T15:08:39+00:00

Reads Headline

Scrolls through instagrams discover feed

Scratches head in confusion

Lice138 · 2016-11-02T19:33:29+00:00

I got into an argument with a friend the other day. She got breast implants and was saying how she hates how people will look at them. I asked her "Wasn't that why you got them, for attention?" Her response was that she got them for herself, so she could feel comfortable with the way she looks. I argued that her "comfort" in how she looks is derived from the attention that she gets and that if she was stuck on an island with no men, she would not give two shits about how she looked. So yes, women will pretend to get freaked out by "creepy" comments from guys but they love it. If they didn't they would not upload 1/2 naked pictures of themselves publicly.

2016-11-02T15:15:04+00:00

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012016.html

I have previously written:

The way many women dress today, with half their breasts exposed, is an expression of total disrespect for men. Men are left with three possible responses. To grab the woman, which is illegal; to ogle the woman, which is socially unacceptable; or to affect not to notice the woman at all, which is emasculating. A culture that normalizes such female behavior—i.e. not only not noticing or objecting to it, but prohibiting any objection to it—is extremely sick.

To expand on this idea, let us consider a situation we see constantly on television today, particularly on the cable news stations, in which a male guest or host is speaking with a female guest or host (though more often the woman is the host or interviewer) on a political talk show or news program. The man is dressed properly in jacket and tie. The woman is wearing a top with an absurdly plunging neckline revealing half her upper chest and often more besides. It is highly revealing, highly provocative, and totally inappropriate for any forum in which serious matters—war, economic recession, constitutional crises—are supposedly being seriously discussed. Yet, though the woman is exposing her body in a way that is impossible not to notice, and though her exposed body undercuts the very idea that this is a serious news program, the man is not supposed to notice it, or to appear as if he notices it. And, I believe, so profoundly acclimated are contemporary men to feminist mores and liberal expectations generally that the man in fact doesn’t notice it and is entirely cool with the whole set-up. And so the man in sober jacket and tie and the woman with ludicrous acres and declivities of flesh revealed go on talking about terrorism, or the economy, or the next president’s cabinet appointees, with the man’s eyes never even for a micro-second wandering below the woman’s face. Not only does the situation emasculate the man, but the man, by submitting to it instead of telling the woman that she is not dressed appropriately and ought to cover herself (as, I’ve heard, Muslim guests on TV shows have occasionally told female hosts) emasculates himself. He emasculates himself sexually and as a male figure deserving of respect, because he is suppressing his normal reactions both as a man and as an authority figure. Thus have contemporary men turned themselves into passive drones, eunuchs of the gyneocracy.

Carol Iannone speculates that this ubiquitous self-emasculation of men, this psychological turning off and suppression of their normal reactions to women, has affected them to such a degree that when it’s actually time for them to release their normal sexual response, the response is not there, they can’t do it, they need help. And thus the Viagra craze.

BDMR_lurker · 2016-11-02T15:25:13+00:00

Except among women with breasts and a need for attention. The article mentions Katty Perry. I don't see her going flat any time soon.

But there is a trend towards smaller breast implants currently.

Until someone plays the meta-game and starts going big again.

2016-11-02T19:27:45+00:00

"Our marketing department thinks appealing to women this way is currently more viable than appealing to women the way we used to do it."

Leinadro · 2016-11-02T19:36:25+00:00

Wait. There are people who think the tits have to be out "for lads" in order for men to find them interesting? Im sorry are we in a fucking Saturday Morning cartoon or something?

Does this writer not realize that regardless of who the tits are out for and even if they arent out they are still interesting?

2016-11-02T21:08:24+00:00

The woman can hide their tits all they want. I find tits interesting whether or not they're revealed. On that note, I appreciate a pretty face more than tits.

Mythandros · 2016-11-02T21:21:34+00:00

Cleavage will never be "over", but after removing those shots from their magazine, Vogue certainly will be over.

feedmecarrots · 2016-11-03T05:42:31+00:00

I think people at Vogue put the cart before the horse. They get to report changes in fashion. They do not get to dictate it. That is determined by market economics.

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