I cannot find anywhere to discuss the faults in modern feminism and redpill as they both are two extremes to the issue at hand. Is this such a place?

derpylord143 · 2016-10-17T13:53:38+00:00

Hmm we are open to discuss anything mens rights related, at times that means being at logger heads with both, sometimes agreeing with bits and pieces and others neutral... I wouldn't say we were a middle ground more of a 3rd group, that generally doesn't have "extremists" but then again I bet most feminists and redpillers would say the same about their respective groups. We simply want to fix legal or public (government supported) issues

philosarapter · 2016-10-17T16:46:53+00:00

You could also subscribe over at /r/egalitarianism. The population is lacking, but I find most people are level headed and willing to engage in debate over social issues.

DruidsCry · 2016-10-17T16:26:14+00:00

You won't find such a thing. Here is the thing about online cultures. Most of them start out in good places with good intentions. Healthy in the middle of whatever the fuck they want to talk about.

But at some point, some knuckleheads get involved with the cultures and discover that attention awaits the people that are willing to push towards the fringes of the discussions.

Then people one up each other. At some point in the future, you have cultures that are defined by the fringe.

Go ahead, test what I am saying. Reddit is full of this shit.

Lethn · 2016-10-17T13:41:28+00:00

You honestly couldn't figure it out for yourself by looking at the content of this subreddit?

civilsaint · 2016-10-17T13:41:54+00:00

/r/PurplePillDebate

synn89 · 2016-10-17T14:29:14+00:00

A problem with groups is that the people in them have a wide opinion of views. The creator of The Red Pill was a self described feminist, but her views became at odds with quite a few others who described themselves as feminists.

This group also has a pretty wide opinion of views. There are going to be extremists like you think there are, but they don't make up the entirety of the group. But because the entire group itself tends to get censored in the public discourse you'll tend to find an anti-censorship vibe here. You're won't get banned here for discussing issues like you might in other groups. But that doesn't mean you won't get down votes if you don't express yourself well and people disagree with you.

Imnotmrabut · 2016-10-17T16:30:59+00:00

Is this such a place?

Yes!

Muesli_nom · 2016-10-17T17:03:32+00:00

I may not have an immediate answer to your question, but you might find the following thesis useful:

Some people think that the more extreme opposing political views become, the more they resemble each other. This is known as horseshoe theory. For a second point: "Middle-of-the-road" subs and places in general have a hard time existing, because the moderates do usually have little emotional investment in a particular side or view, and as such have only weak motivation for discussion. Extreme elements, on the other hand, feel they've much more of a dog in the race, and tend to dig their trenches deep. This leads to a general "deterioration" of a lot of forums where more and more moderate people drop out until only the die-hard fanatics remain in their Eternal War against The Bad Ones.

Ahem. Sorry. That all said, I have the feeling that while r/mensrights has a definite agenda (it's in the name - legal equality for men), and as such is hardly a truly neutral place, I think it's a better place than many to discuss such issues because it is more focused on actual issues than on curating bogeymen. I mean, most of us (I think) definitely have no love left for feminism (because it is the cause of some of that legal inequality we're pushing against), but if a self-labelled feminist comes in, I have the feeling that the majority of people still will hear them out instead of mindlessly tearing into them.

Vandechoz · 2016-10-17T18:20:48+00:00

this sub isn't heavyhanded with moderating actual content, if that's what you're asking, so you can post pretty much anything you want

there are a decent number of redpill-leaning people that post/lurk here, though, so I can't say how your up/downvotes will go; it might depend on the hour or the day you post :/

for the most part, it seems redpill is mostly just ignored here until someone posts something far enough out there and they get mobbed -- redpillers aren't mainstream, so they're not a major source of problems

DavidByron2 · 2016-10-18T22:41:56+00:00

We're not red pill.

You can discuss our own faults if you like. In fact we'd prefer it. Better bring your A game though; we are very good at arguing the topic.

Rasalom72 · 2016-10-18T02:10:55+00:00

The problem is you are trying to put redpill and feminism on the same spectrum... where they are not.

Feminism is about getting as much for women as possible (usually at the expense of men, but sometimes at the expense of other women).

Redpill is about acknowledging the realities of current society, the state of female biology and psychology, and trying to carve out the best life for that specific individual using the tools that redpill provides (insight/ feedback/ etc).

While redpill is interested in men's rights to a degree, it doesn't really care about every man's rights... it only cares about the man using the forum.. and to a lesser degree the women who also believe in the redpill mindset.

usernamespellinerror · 2016-10-18T03:54:14+00:00

^ this for me too, is Op talking about /r/theredpill or the redpill movie? I have not watched the Redpill movie yet, I did watch that woman MRAs youtube which was in reply to some feminists podcast on the movie. And that was very eye opening. I want to know how to help and somewhere to discuss.

I will check the links out that have been pasted. I have lurked here a bit never posted, always pissed off at the things I read about that are happening though - i dont want to intrude here.

Title	I cannot find anywhere to discuss the faults in modern feminism and redpill as they both are two extremes to the issue at hand. Is this such a place?
Author	DruidsCry
Upvotes	1
Comments	55
Date	October 17, 2016 1:32 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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